Kyiv

[Riina]

All those Ukrainian women will return to Ukraine with a changed mentality about how they look at men.

Anybody with a dick will be king in forever poor and dysfunctional Ukraine.

[Jmsuttr]

4 million women have tasted the emancipation of western society.

- why would I wear high heels? In the west, no woman does this.

- why would I wear sexy clothes? In the west, no woman does this.

All those Ukrainian women will return to Ukraine with a changed mentality about how they look at men.

A girlfriend of mine went back to Kyiv last week, she told me that there are so few women in UKR now that all men looked at her with hunger, like she was meat.

It's a pity, but for high-quality women, you do not need to go to UKR anymore. It's over.

While there's one thing we can say with reasonable certainty, namely that the pre-Feb 24th world is gone, never to return, anything beyond that involves variables that could play out in multiple ways.

If and when all those Ukrainian women return, what will their country look like? Will there be a Marshall-style plan to rebuild, or not? If hostilities cease, will there be a meaningful peace or an uneasy armistice? Will robust European support continue, or will fatigue set in?

Another thing about which we can be certain is that tens of thousands of military-age men will no longer be alive, or may have a disability such that they can no longer support themselves or anyone else. In Luhansk and Donetsk, from many articles and videos I've seen, it appears that only boys and old men remain. If Ukraine retakes some or all of those territories, all the women in those areas will struggle as they figure out their futures.

Again, I would argue that the best crystal ball is understandably murky. But there are bound to be some profound and unpredictable changes.

[DramaFree11]

4 million women have tasted the emancipation of western society.

- why would I wear high heels? In the west, no woman does this.

- why would I wear sexy clothes? In the west, no woman does this.

All those Ukrainian women will return to Ukraine with a changed mentality about how they look at men.

A girlfriend of mine went back to Kyiv last week, she told me that there are so few women in UKR now that all men looked at her with hunger, like she was meat.

It's a pity, but for high-quality women, you do not need to go to UKR anymore. It's over.

You are very late to the party. Kiev was over 10 years ago. Some were in denial.

[SkinnyMan]

4 million women have tasted the emancipation of western society.

- why would I wear high heels? In the west, no woman does this.

- why would I wear sexy clothes? In the west, no woman does this.

All those Ukrainian women will return to Ukraine with a changed mentality about how they look at men.

A girlfriend of mine went back to Kyiv last week, she told me that there are so few women in UKR now that all men looked at her with hunger, like she was meat.

It's a pity, but for high-quality women, you do not need to go to UKR anymore. It's over.

[Paulie97]

Many people in Kiev talk about if Putin will use it (people are worried). And we never know what a desperate Putin will do.

Of course we don't "know." There's a whole lot in this life we don't know, but the odds of Russia using nukes remains very low. The most likely scenario is that once the inner circle decides it's time, Putin is put out to pasture to live out his life. This has happened a number of times with Russian leaders, most recently with Yeltsin. Here's an interesting video from a former Putin speech writer where this case is made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt07fmWUnhU

Also the chances of Putin using tactical nukes remains very low. If he does this is the sort of promised "catastrophic" response he can expect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL90ljiNuSs

P.S. We have a lot of Chicken Littles in the states, mostly those on the far right, but these are just terrified of Biden succeeding and what that will do to their electoral prospects.

[Nero6]

I am afraid you might be right!!

Many people in Kiev talk about if Putin will use it (people are worried). And we never know what a desperate Putin will do.

[How14]

Looking at Ukr postings, it looks like there are real, bona-fide postings out of real girls desperate for $.

Due to war, economy, many girls seem to be forced to come into this world.

I just wish the airway to Boryspil opens soon so that my blueballs can empty out.

How is it in Kiev? Any fellow comrades write about it? Or, you guys in Kiev are so busy meeting girls?

Is your name Stevie wonder? How do you think it is?

[How14]

Very well said my fellow human!

3 pizzas 40 euro, ha ha pathetic.

[DramaFree11]

Shall we not go back to Kyiv one more time before Putin drops a nuke?

I am afraid you might be right!!

[Sorbonne]

Shall we not go back to Kyiv one more time before Putin drops a nuke?

[LKS2021]

There are still many fake profil or the sites where you can find girls here in Kiev. And you are right that if you go to a salon, agency and some indi too, you most pay ekstra for every little ekstra service. So if you do it that way it can be expensive. I talked with a girl (I'am almost 100 % sure it was salon) aksing 150 $ for 1 hour (blowjob and sex in condom and no kissing). I said no.

Of course there will allway's be some people in Kiev there just pay crazy prices but it is not like before the war more. Many people here (in Kiev) have no work and the salary is very low now. So most of the ukraine men can not pay crazy money. One of my friends find a nice girl 22 year on badoo. He invited her out. For 2 person (some beer and a little food) he paid around 800 grn. And she went with him home and they had fun the hole night. And she did not aks for money. So the way is to find the girls your self. And it can take some time. But if you have time you can be lucky (find a nice girl for a good price).

And still if a girl work for a salon (the salon take around 60-80 % and the girl get the rest). So the girl there meet with the client do not get much when the people behind the place have had there cut.

And still not many tourist here. But to the foreigner there are here now have fun (but do not pay crazy money for a girl).

If some is in Kiev now and up for a beer let me know.

Just tested some numbers posted on Ukrgo with telegram.

Most of them are fake, mama-san operating pros. Some even asked for 33000 UAH (approx. $900!

You are so right. Ukrainians do not forget what they are best at. (well, these scanky sharks!) - I respect innocent Ukrainians to fight for their freedom, tho.

Is it getting better in Kiev? I heard Mcdonald came back to open. My memories to hook up young girls at Kiev Mcdonald, that kind of thrill.

When would Boryspil open? Just having too big blueballs underneath, I need to release, fellas!

[Nero6]

Before the war, 98% of offers were fake. Do you think it's different now? In addition, the low prices are often only the basic tariff. For every little extra you have to pay extra. So that in the end the price doubles and triples. I've just come from Ukraine and I can assure you: beautiful women still have enough customers and pockets full of money. As is well known, Ukrainian men are not allowed to leave the country. So 90 percent of the four million refugees are women and children, invalids or pensioners. However, the supply of women has shrunk significantly. I wanted to invite a friend of mine for a vacation. She declined. Reason: In Kyiv she is doing the business of her life at the moment. What's missing at the moment is the party life. Because in the evening everything is closed early. And that's why many of the disco girls can be found abroad.

I was also in Kyiv at the time of the crisis in 2014/2015. At that time you could still find very beautiful girls with a financial problem. But the situation is not comparable. Absolutely not. Foreign countries are pumping a lot of money into Ukraine at the moment.

There are still many fake profil or the sites where you can find girls here in Kiev. And you are right that if you go to a salon, agency and some indi too, you most pay ekstra for every little ekstra service. So if you do it that way it can be expensive. I talked with a girl (I'am almost 100 % sure it was salon) aksing 150 $ for 1 hour (blowjob and sex in condom and no kissing). I said no.

Of course there will allway's be some people in Kiev there just pay crazy prices but it is not like before the war more. Many people here (in Kiev) have no work and the salary is very low now. So most of the ukraine men can not pay crazy money. One of my friends find a nice girl 22 year on badoo. He invited her out. For 2 person (some beer and a little food) he paid around 800 grn. And she went with him home and they had fun the hole night. And she did not aks for money. So the way is to find the girls your self. And it can take some time. But if you have time you can be lucky (find a nice girl for a good price).

And still if a girl work for a salon (the salon take around 60-80 % and the girl get the rest). So the girl there meet with the client do not get much when the people behind the place have had there cut.

And still not many tourist here. But to the foreigner there are here now have fun (but do not pay crazy money for a girl).

If some is in Kiev now and up for a beer let me know.

[DramaFree11]

Before the war, 98% of offers were fake. Do you think it's different now? In addition, the low prices are often only the basic tariff. For every little extra you have to pay extra. So that in the end the price doubles and triples. I've just come from Ukraine and I can assure you: beautiful women still have enough customers and pockets full of money. As is well known, Ukrainian men are not allowed to leave the country. So 90 percent of the four million refugees are women and children, invalids or pensioners. However, the supply of women has shrunk significantly. I wanted to invite a friend of mine for a vacation. She declined. Reason: In Kyiv she is doing the business of her life at the moment. What's missing at the moment is the party life. Because in the evening everything is closed early. And that's why many of the disco girls can be found abroad.

I was also in Kyiv at the time of the crisis in 2014/2015. At that time you could still find very beautiful girls with a financial problem. But the situation is not comparable. Absolutely not. Foreign countries are pumping a lot of money into Ukraine at the moment.

Some people live in a fantasy world. Why would you go to Kiev in the middle of a war?

[Misterxxx]

Looking at Ukr postings, it looks like there are real, bona-fide postings out of real girls desperate for $.

Due to war, economy, many girls seem to be forced to come into this world.

I just wish the airway to Boryspil opens soon so that my blueballs can empty out.

How is it in Kiev? Any fellow comrades write about it? Or, you guys in Kiev are so busy meeting girls?

Before the war, 98% of offers were fake. Do you think it's different now? In addition, the low prices are often only the basic tariff. For every little extra you have to pay extra. So that in the end the price doubles and triples. I've just come from Ukraine and I can assure you: beautiful women still have enough customers and pockets full of money. As is well known, Ukrainian men are not allowed to leave the country. So 90 percent of the four million refugees are women and children, invalids or pensioners. However, the supply of women has shrunk significantly. I wanted to invite a friend of mine for a vacation. She declined. Reason: In Kyiv she is doing the business of her life at the moment. What's missing at the moment is the party life. Because in the evening everything is closed early. And that's why many of the disco girls can be found abroad.

I was also in Kyiv at the time of the crisis in 2014/2015. At that time you could still find very beautiful girls with a financial problem. But the situation is not comparable. Absolutely not. Foreign countries are pumping a lot of money into Ukraine at the moment.

[RubMeister100]

I don't think we were talking about pros here.

I can admire your attempt on mental acrobatics, as to turn the situation around to support your side of your modus operandi, but I'm sure you are able to see and understand what I'm talking about. Having high moral (contrary to being an opportunist with low or no morality guiding one's actions) requires sacrifices, and they are done when one has to decide whether to uphold one's integrity or letting it slip when there is something sweet to be gained. On the advantage of another person.

But still, if you are poor person or from a poor country, I can totally agree that 2000 is better than nothing. For me, 60 euros has been the minimum limit to pay for another human being giving their body for my pleasure. For an hour. Last time when I was on a trip, I tipped 40 euros on top of this, 'because the girl came on a short notice after her 8 hour work day at midnight. It was for me the same as the cost of three pizzas. For her, it meant much more.

Being human for those that treat us as human beings instead of just walking wallets whom to fuck on a conveyor belt style is the minimum we can do as mongerers to have them girls keep providing their services. Maybe even telling their girlfriends "it ain't that bad, some of them are actually really nice persons". When a girl finds out what her value is, she will think of the men who paid her short as men who took advantage of her ignorance of youth. For example, I got this sense from my ex regular, whom I paid 120 euro for "an hour" (and it would be 3 hours before she got a boyfriend) for a year, and who is now being paid 300 euros for one hour, because she is the cream of the crop. We had amazing time, she said I'm her favorite client. I actually was able to get her cum by licking, which was super rare for her, and we did some things every time that really turned her on that not many people do in sex. Yet, there was the hint of bitterness and blame in her message for me, stating what she charges now. She didn't remember I told her on our second or third meeting that she could ask for 250 euros, the highest price girls ask here. She was able to go even higher. But since our meetings cost me 300 euros with her 120, the apartment for 100, and travel plus meals, she knew I appreciated her company a lot. Others paid her around 100 euros. She was a girl who was approached by men all the time, but deep down she didn't think herself to be of value. This is something we should not take advantage of.

I'd say pay for the work the price it's worth. As one would hope one would get from his own work. It's time and effort the girls put into this, the same as we do when we earn our money.

Especially in Ukraine.

Very well said my fellow human!