American Politics

[EihTooms]

https://www.breitbart.com/immigratio...rd-rail-issue/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ1Wq7gHSyI

Biden's Approval Rating Surges After Hitting Low Mark In July, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Half Of Americans Say Trump Should Be Prosecuted On Criminal Charges Over His Handling Of Classified Documents

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3854

Biden Approval Rating Gets Big Bounce From Young Americans

https://www.investors.com/politics/b...ung-americans/

Dems continue to expand their lead over Repubs in the Generic Ballot Poll of Polls:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...eneric-ballot/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...vote-7361.html

Even Rasmussen can only squeak out a mere 1 percentage point advantage for their beloved Repubs.

[Travv]

Washington DC — The situation of migrants being transported throughout the United States escalated even further today as Vice President Kamala Harris spoke to the media and officially declared a crisis at the border surrounding her residence in Washington, the. See.

There is now a serious border crisis. Not at our southern border, which is completely secure. I'm referring to the border around my own property, Vice President Harris said in her statement. My home is now under siege, surrounded by foreign nationals attempting to circumvent our laws and invade my estate. This is simply unacceptable and must be addressed.

The Vice President has already ensured the high-security fence around her home is in good condition and has instructed her Secret Service detail to perform routine, armed patrols of the property's perimeter to maintain strict border security from the busloads of migrants being dropped off outside.

When asked about allegations of hypocrisy regarding declaring a border crisis at her home while saying the nation's southern border is secure, the Vice President had this to say: "We understand that time and space are things that cannot be understood. To move forward, we look to the past and hold onto the hope for tomorrow. We have knowledge that isn't knowable, and we know that. Now get these people away from my house. ".

At publishing time, the Vice President's staff was already working on a plan to have the bused migrants removed from the area surrounding her residence and transported back to small, ill-equipped towns along the southern border. When asked why border towns should be expected to withstand the ongoing onslaught of migrants, Harris simply threw her head back and cackled maniacally before telling the press that addressing the border problems is not the job of the Border Czar. . .

https://babylonbee.com/news/kamala-h...d-her-property

[MarquisdeSade1]

Migrants Decline Newsom's Offer Of Asylum In CA Since They Just Came From A Collapsing Communist Hellhole With Sporadic Electricity.

MARTHA'S VINEYARD, MA This week, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis flew 50 migrants to an affluent island in Massachusetts to highlight the struggles of border states whose resources are buckling amid soaring numbers of undocumented immigrants. Progressives have labeled the action as "cruel" and "heartless," but when California governor Gavin Newsom volunteered asylum for the migrants in his own state, they declined the offer since they had only recently escaped a collapsing communist state without electricity.

"I don't like bullies, and Florida governor Ron DeSantis is bullying these migrants by not welcoming them! We in California believe a nation of immigrants draws its strength from more immigrants come to the sunshine state and we will house you, clothe you, and feed you. " Newsom spoke out in a video message from his home after the events of the week, pledging that there was "no limit" to how high he would tax other people to pay for the migrants' livelihoods but also clarifying that he would not be able to help personally.

https://www.newsmax.com/reagan/narco...12/id/1078370/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...n-mexico-city/

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022...l-the-present/

[Spidy]

Well its great that you should finally attempt to defend your position. But I have ...

Simply provided you an example of my non-binary thinking, since you seem to feel I only think in binary.

That's it, don't over think it!

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022...l-the-present/

[Spidy]

You have this fantasy that you are entitled to answers sounds like a line from Tom Cruise in "A Few Good Men" ...

Why should anyone bother answering any of your questions? This is an American Politics Forum not a "I hate the US forum".

Well Said!

The dude, does seem to have "an axe to grind".

Or as a foodie, would put it, "more beef than bun".

Or as a foodie "bothsidesist", would put it, "...where's the beef"? (....kkkk!)

[PVMonger]

Yes imagine a Martha's Vineyard on the Mexico border. They are complaining about 50 illegals dropped off there and it is an emergency. Can you imagine Obama and Hillary allowing millions of illegals into Martha's Vineyard if it was on Mexico border. Biden would have had the military in war against Mexico.

You have no idea if the persons who were rounded up and sent to Martha's Vineyard had applied for asylum or not.

You seem to think that being lied to (they were told they were going to Boston where they'd have a job and housing) is perfectly OK.

You seem to think that spending taxpayer money on this BS is perfectly OK.

You see to think that flying them there without notifying Martha's Vineyard is perfectly OK.

I wonder what you'd think if 50 of the morons who took part in the January 6th insurrection were treated like the 50 were. Well, I know what you'd think.

[PVMonger]

Migrants Decline Newsom's Offer Of Asylum In CA Since They Just Came From A Collapsing Communist Hellhole With Sporadic Electricity.

MARTHA'S VINEYARD, MA This week, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis flew 50 migrants to an affluent island in Massachusetts to highlight the struggles of border states whose resources are buckling amid soaring numbers of undocumented immigrants. Progressives have labeled the action as "cruel" and "heartless," but when California governor Gavin Newsom volunteered asylum for the migrants in his own state, they declined the offer since they had only recently escaped a collapsing communist state without electricity.

"I don't like bullies, and Florida governor Ron DeSantis is bullying these migrants by not welcoming them! We in California believe a nation of immigrants draws its strength from more immigrants come to the sunshine state and we will house you, clothe you, and feed you. " Newsom spoke out in a video message from his home after the events of the week, pledging that there was "no limit" to how high he would tax other people to pay for the migrants' livelihoods but also clarifying that he would not be able to help personally.

Gee, another Repub who copies-and-pastes without a citation.

Here's the sources: https://babylonbee.com/news/migrants...o-electricity/.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Inflation before the American Rescue Plan was passed? We were staying indoors, not going anywhere, not doing anything waiting for Trump's Pandemic virus to "go away without a vaccine", millions of jobs had been wiped out, thousands of businesses were closed forever. Is that the inflation control method we should return to?

I wonder. Did Larry Summers explain why countries that didn't pass the American Rescue Plan in the wake of the massive economic destruction wrought by Trump's Pandemic had and still have much higher rates of inflation and much weaker jobs creation than in America?

https://www.breitbart.com/immigratio...rd-rail-issue/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ1Wq7gHSyI

[EihTooms]

Nobody sane is arguing that supply chain problems and higher worldwide commodity prices didn't have an unfavorable effect on inflation. But the American Rescue Plan did too. Larry Summers, the most influential Democratic Party economist of the last 30 years, did his damnedest to keep the bill from being passed, but Biden, Pelosi, Schumer et al wouldn't listen. This article is from February 5, 2021, over a month before the bill was passed:

"Larry Summers, the top economic adviser to former President Obama, warned in an op-ed on Friday that President Biden's proposed COVID-19 relief package is too big and could overheat the economy.

Summers, the Treasury secretary under former President Clinton, wrote in The Washington Post that the proposed $1. 9 trillion stimulus could ignite inflationary pressures "of a kind we have not seen in a generation. ".

He said the risk of inflation could have "consequences for the dollar and financial stability. ".

"Stimulus measures of the magnitude contemplated are steps into the unknown," Summers wrote. ".

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/5...us-is-too-big/

Here's CPI inflation before and after the American Rescue Plan (ARP) was passed:

2/2021:1.7% (month before ARP was passed).

3/2021:2.6% (Bill was passed on March 11, and checks were being direct deposited to some Americans' accounts within 24 hours).

4/2021:4.2% (Disbursement of funds from ARP continued).

1/2022:7.5% (This was a month before the Russian invasion of Ukraine).

As to your belief that every other country experienced the same kind of inflation, here's YoY CPI inflation for various countries on 4/2021, after the ARP checks had hit. Australia is 3/2021, because it reports quarterly.

USA 4.2%.

Australia 1.1%.

Japan -1.1%.

Switzerland 0.3%.

Singapore 2.1%.

Hong Kong 0.8%.

UK 0.7%.

EU 1.6%.

I put Switzerland, Hong Kong and Singapore in there because, like the USA, they have smaller government spending as a % of GDP than other developed countries. I have no idea what kind of money they spent on COVID stimulus but figure it was probably less than, say, the EU and UK.

Inflation before the American Rescue Plan was passed? We were staying indoors, not going anywhere, not doing anything waiting for Trump's Pandemic virus to "go away without a vaccine", millions of jobs had been wiped out, thousands of businesses were closed forever. Is that the inflation control method we should return to?

I wonder. Did Larry Summers explain why countries that didn't pass the American Rescue Plan in the wake of the massive economic destruction wrought by Trump's Pandemic had and still have much higher rates of inflation and much weaker jobs creation than in America?

[EihTooms]

Yeah, but will the provisions be extended? It's very unlikely they all will be unless Republicans control the House, Senate and Presidency. Look at what happened with the Bush tax cuts. They expired. Obama and the Democratic controlled Senate and House could have done away with them in 2009 or 2010, but didn't. I don't think the corporate tax rate will be jacked back up to 35% again though. Both Obama and Biden wanted to bring it down to 28% but never did.

Obama I think was a good bit wiser than Biden. He figured that raising taxes while we were recovering from a recession was a bad idea, so that's why he allowed Bush's tax cuts to expire on their own. Biden on the other hand, through his proposed Build Back Better bill, was looking to raise taxes a lot.

Oil and gas is another example. Obama bragged about how oil and gas production increased during his administration. Biden on the other hand keeps trying to kneecap the USA Oil and gas producers. During the first 19 months of his administration, only about 130,000 acres of federal leases have been issued, compared to 7 million acres during Obama's first 19 months. Furthermore, he's subjecting leases issued in 2018,2019 and 2020 to environmental review by the EPA. One of the criteria the EPA will be looking at is additional carbon emissions from any production discovered on the leases. Biden actually promised during his campaign to stop issuing federal leases and drilling permits on federal lands and the federal offshore. He had to back track because of the courts and because of political expedience, I. E. High gas prices and the upcoming mid terms. But he's apparently looking for a backdoor way to fulfill his promises. Hasn't he learned anything from what's going on in Europe right now? The Europeans may be freezing their asses off this winter, because they're depending on foreign sources of fuel.

I think Biden's just being jerked around by the Progressives. That's not good. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders may be a lot more articulate than Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene, but they're just about as nutty.

I realize you came to these discussions late. But those Repub oil lease arguments were destroyed here a dozen times over already.

Also, Clinton and his Dem-controlled Congress raised the tax rate on the top margin right on the heels of Bush1's Repub Recession in the 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, one of the great economic legislations passed without a single Repub vote. Of course, what followed was one of the greatest economic expansions, jobs creation and deficit / debt reduction runs in history.

Yeah, one of the excuses the Repubs claimed was their reason for not voting for it was they said Clinton and the Dems would destroy the economy and wipe out millions of jobs if they raised taxes during the recovery from one of their patented Recessions. LOL.

[ScatManDoo]

Hillary Clinton: "Trump Should Be Held Accountable For Mishandling Classified Material, DOJ Should Pursue This".

[Travv]

Migrants Decline Newsom's Offer Of Asylum In CA Since They Just Came From A Collapsing Communist Hellhole With Sporadic Electricity.

MARTHA'S VINEYARD, MA — This week, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis flew 50 migrants to an affluent island in Massachusetts to highlight the struggles of border states whose resources are buckling amid soaring numbers of undocumented immigrants. Progressives have labeled the action as "cruel" and "heartless," but when California governor Gavin Newsom volunteered asylum for the migrants in his own state, they declined the offer since they had only recently escaped a collapsing communist state without electricity.

"I don't like bullies, and Florida governor Ron DeSantis is bullying these migrants by not welcoming them! We in California believe a nation of immigrants draws its strength from more immigrants – come to the sunshine state and we will house you, clothe you, and feed you. " Newsom spoke out in a video message from his home after the events of the week, pledging that there was "no limit" to how high he would tax other people to pay for the migrants' livelihoods but also clarifying that he would not be able to help personally.

While the migrants have heard the message, they have already voiced their intent to avoid California to reporters, speaking out about the harrowing circumstances they had escaped: skyrocketing inflation, a demolished economy, and obvious corruption at the highest levels of government. The migrants say that California's trash-littered sidewalks, water shortages, and electrical outages bear too much resemblance to the Venezuela they left behind for it to be a desirable destination.

One of Governor Newsom's PACs, Robbing California Citizens To Fund Our Voter Base, has posted a press release condemning the migrants for the comparison. "To compare California to Venezuela is disingenuous, and these narrow-minded migrants should be ashamed. They come from a nation where business is stifled by overregulation and state interference, a one-party system has ruled for decades with a compliant state media to tout its success while cities burn, and citizens struggling to pay for gas, food, and other necessities – this is nothing like California. For this disrespect, we call for their immediate deportation to the 'greener pastures' of Florida that they seek so much, with plans for them to be re-imported for votes during election seasons. ".

At publishing time, Newsom had reiterated his offer in a video at his $5 million home, gesturing to the plentiful electricity around him, but migrants have said that this reminds them too much of the opulent lifestyle enjoyed by top politicians Chavez and then Maduro while they wreaked havoc on the nation. . .

[Tiny 12]

It seems like supporters of Donnie the Dumbass are continually blaming President Biden for inflation. It reminds me of a 60-year-old quote from Abraham Maslow "If the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to treat everything as if it were a nail". That's supporters of Donnie the Dumbass all right. Everything is "fake news" unless it comes from some bogus rightwingnut source. Then, of course, it has to be "real". Yep, to them, "the election was stolen", "Chinese thermostats changed votes". Or was it Italian satellites? They probably even believe that Jewish Space Lasers cause forest fires. Sheesh.

What these folks forget is virtually every country in the world is suffering from inflation. Gasoline prices are up worldwide. Food prices are up worldwide. Commodities are up. Manufactured goods are up. Now, even the dumbest person in the world ought to be able to see that something else is at work here. "All these countries have one thing in common: they're all struggling to recover from a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic that continues to disrupt the supply side of the economy, hampering the ability of businesses, workers, and the global supply chain to operate at full capacity and satisfy boomeranging consumer demand. Rather than putting a Biden "I did that" sticker on products with skyrocketing prices, it's probably more accurate to say "COVID did that. " https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2...blame-on-biden.

But the one thing that no self-respecting supporter of the one-term, twice-impeached, commander-in-chief of the Mar-a-Lago Putt-Putt and McDonalds Emporium would ever do is admit that COVID is probably the main driver of inflation. Because to do so would mean that they would have to acknowledge that we'd have inflation even if Donnie the Dumbass was president*.

After all, even if Donnie the Dumbass was president*, we'd still have surging consumer demand because of the lifting of many of the COVID restrictions. We'd still have labor shortages as US workers say "Screw it, I'm not going to work for some moron who pays peanuts any more". We'd still have global supply chain problems. None of these things would have gone away if Donnie the Dumbass were president*. Unless, of course, "If the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to treat everything as if it were a nail".

So, sorry folks, but Donnie the Dumbass couldn't have fixed this problem either. Just like he made COVID worse by lying to the American public, he'd have done the same thing here. He'd have simply declared the pandemic over and opened up everything. He'd have killed millions more with this strategy plus kickstarted inflation even higher. https://businessinsider.mx/causes-of...ion/?r=US&IR=T.

Nobody sane is arguing that supply chain problems and higher worldwide commodity prices didn't have an unfavorable effect on inflation. But the American Rescue Plan did too. Larry Summers, the most influential Democratic Party economist of the last 30 years, did his damnedest to keep the bill from being passed, but Biden, Pelosi, Schumer et al wouldn't listen. This article is from February 5, 2021, over a month before the bill was passed:

"Larry Summers, the top economic adviser to former President Obama, warned in an op-ed on Friday that President Biden's proposed COVID-19 relief package is too big and could overheat the economy.

Summers, the Treasury secretary under former President Clinton, wrote in The Washington Post that the proposed $1. 9 trillion stimulus could ignite inflationary pressures "of a kind we have not seen in a generation. ".

He said the risk of inflation could have "consequences for the dollar and financial stability. ".

"Stimulus measures of the magnitude contemplated are steps into the unknown," Summers wrote. ".

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/5...us-is-too-big/

Here's CPI inflation before and after the American Rescue Plan (ARP) was passed:

2/2021:1.7% (month before ARP was passed).

3/2021:2.6% (Bill was passed on March 11, and checks were being direct deposited to some Americans' accounts within 24 hours).

4/2021:4.2% (Disbursement of funds from ARP continued).

1/2022:7.5% (This was a month before the Russian invasion of Ukraine).

As to your belief that every other country experienced the same kind of inflation, here's YoY CPI inflation for various countries on 4/2021, after the ARP checks had hit. Australia is 3/2021, because it reports quarterly.

USA 4.2%.

Australia 1.1%.

Japan -1.1%.

Switzerland 0.3%.

Singapore 2.1%.

Hong Kong 0.8%.

UK 0.7%.

EU 1.6%.

I put Switzerland, Hong Kong and Singapore in there because, like the USA, they have smaller government spending as a % of GDP than other developed countries. I have no idea what kind of money they spent on COVID stimulus but figure it was probably less than, say, the EU and UK.

[Tiny 12]

CBO Estimates TCJA Extensions Could Cost Up to $2.7 Trillion.
JUN 28, 2022 TAXES

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/cbo-estim...st-27-trillion

Yeah, but will the provisions be extended? It's very unlikely they all will be unless Republicans control the House, Senate and Presidency. Look at what happened with the Bush tax cuts. They expired. Obama and the Democratic controlled Senate and House could have done away with them in 2009 or 2010, but didn't. I don't think the corporate tax rate will be jacked back up to 35% again though. Both Obama and Biden wanted to bring it down to 28% but never did.

Obama I think was a good bit wiser than Biden. He figured that raising taxes while we were recovering from a recession was a bad idea, so that's why he allowed Bush's tax cuts to expire on their own. Biden on the other hand, through his proposed Build Back Better bill, was looking to raise taxes a lot.

Oil and gas is another example. Obama bragged about how oil and gas production increased during his administration. Biden on the other hand keeps trying to kneecap the USA Oil and gas producers. During the first 19 months of his administration, only about 130,000 acres of federal leases have been issued, compared to 7 million acres during Obama's first 19 months. Furthermore, he's subjecting leases issued in 2018,2019 and 2020 to environmental review by the EPA. One of the criteria the EPA will be looking at is additional carbon emissions from any production discovered on the leases. Biden actually promised during his campaign to stop issuing federal leases and drilling permits on federal lands and the federal offshore. He had to back track because of the courts and because of political expedience, I. E. High gas prices and the upcoming mid terms. But he's apparently looking for a backdoor way to fulfill his promises. Hasn't he learned anything from what's going on in Europe right now? The Europeans may be freezing their asses off this winter, because they're depending on foreign sources of fuel.

I think Biden's just being jerked around by the Progressives. That's not good. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders may be a lot more articulate than Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene, but they're just about as nutty.