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09-19-22 13:18 #15583
Posts: 647Originally Posted by Fewdie [View Original Post]
Many of us monger outside of the US not because of the price but instead not to shit in our own backyard.
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09-19-22 07:09 #15582
Posts: 2986Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
What is missing in this post is that if it is someone else who does not last long, that person can ask for two pops as he said she promised the world.
6) Scandallo. ... Did get a price though. She opened with 1000, I got her down to 400, which she accepted. She promised the world, including anal. I know this is apparently a great deal at Scandallo these days, but LOL, nope. She probably thinks I am a 10-min guy with her thing for Asians (I can easily go a full hour) ...
I have the most sessions with Scandallo girls but the best sessions I have are at Tangara. That is by far the best place for me and ironically it is the least expensive. The place is a little rundown. What make me go back are the number of girls they have and the new girls they have are just unmatched by any clincas. The best BBBJs, the best camel slides all are from Tangra. I still remember the girl teasing me repeatedly while doing came slide, do you want condom? do you want condom?; I kept answering NO NO NO. LOL. Just to add more context, I went to Prime almost every week but I left empty handed most of the times and always ended up in Miruna.
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09-19-22 06:39 #15581
Posts: 2986Originally Posted by Fewdie [View Original Post]
It's like some unique luxury rental properties that cost a fraction of the price of US properties but can command high rental price similar to US properties. It is because it's uniqueness and in limited supply and they are only targeted to certain type of customers. These properties will be in demand as long as there are sufficient quaintly of customers even if it is small so it does not matter what general public think.
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09-19-22 05:11 #15580
Posts: 130Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?
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09-18-22 22:28 #15579
Posts: 647Quality control
Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
Quality control is why they bumping the price for girls to enter, this way they ensure the girls don't freelance and come to work 5 days a week and the weed out lower tier girls. Girls that can't commit to going will end up going to other boates where they have less restrictions or high fees to enter.
This gives them even more reason to prefer to talk to gringos since they know the guy is there to fuck and spend money.
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09-18-22 07:59 #15578
Posts: 130Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]
From my personal experiences, tier 1 girls generally settle for 800 to 1000 and tier 2 girls settle for 500 to 800 for ST / HR). The funny thing is that the few girls who won't take 1000 for ST / HR (usually insist on at least 1200 to 1500 for ST / HR) and thus consider themselves Tier 1 or upper Tier 1, I only consider them to be tier 2 level. So it was easy for me to walk away. Just goes to show different strokes for different folks and everyone has a different sense of beauty.
It seems most of the girls also consider LT differently than I do. Most of the girls see no difference between 2-3 hrs at my hotel vs. A pernoite until the morning. They just charged the same for leaving the club "Saida", whether it's for a few hours or an overnight until the morning.
For LT, I've found most tier 1 girls will open at 2000 to 3000 and accept a 1200 to 1500 counter right away, especially if they know you are not a newbie as 1) know the general pricing of the club and 2) is a potential repeat client. The tier 2 girls I've found will take 800 to 1200 for a pernoite.
As with the ST examples, a few won't budge and want at least 2 to 3 k for a pernoite. With one only going from 4500 down to 4000. Almost all of those girls, I don't even consider Tier 1 caliber so I just moved on.
The above also just goes to show that everyome have different tastes. I am glad that is the case or we would all be fighting for the same girls!
Most Asians seem to gravitate towards lighter skinned, cute and innocent gazelles. White Gringos are usually more varied. Locals Brazilians usually tanned, tall, slutty with big Ts and As. That's based on both my observations of which girls are sitting with which clients. And also what girls I spent time with tells me.
The last girl I spent time with on my most recent trip was a young, lightly tanned cute and pretty petite English speaking Brazilian girl with amazing natural the's. Perfect for "Russian"! Those large natural breasts on such a small and thin frame makes her stand out and is an unicorn in my eyes. She tells me few local guys go for her, but white Gringos and Asians (both locals and visitors) make up 80%+ of her client base.
I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels. I just pay what I am comfortable paying, even if it might be on the higher end of what locals and others tell me are the prevalent club rates. I also compare what regular / high end clinicas, other boates and online girls charge and make additional adjustments based on that info.
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09-17-22 20:57 #15577
Posts: 2986Originally Posted by Affyf17 [View Original Post]
Pay in advance is often bad. I had a bad one in SP from a well known site and I didn't even go to the sex part. I just wrote it off reported on gpguia.
I had several twitter sessions. I didn't go for the well known ones and none of them match the pictures but most sessions were good. In most my encounters, they all seem to be supported by a business operation because the setup were professional, frequently spacious one bedroom in the nicer area, towels and everything cleanly wrapped. I caught this picture with the girl I just sessioned with going out with a man while waiting for Uber.
You are a good negotiator. I am very impressed. 400 is a record! I have never thought about going below 500. lol. I think I know the girl you talked about. Spoke a little English. She is a regular there. I know someone got her down to pretty low but not as low as you reported if it's indeed the same girl.
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09-17-22 20:37 #15576
Posts: 2986Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
I went for lunch hoping to get something quick and different. But was told lunch and dinner are the same and the vegetarian option. I walked in at 12 PM without appointment and was the only customer for a short while. By the time I finished, there were about 5 tables total. I think they will attract more people on lunch break if they have smaller menu but the seating does not seem to work for larger volume and may eat into their profit otherwise.
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09-17-22 19:57 #15575
Posts: 130Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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09-17-22 13:40 #15574
Posts: 728A worthy Report of Distinction
Hi Socrates, I know how you feel about SP. I am heading back down there in less than 3 weeks, and I am starting to get stoked. It will be my 4th 6 week visit in less than 2 years. What can I say? I love the girls. I keep putting off my return to Thailand and the PI on account of SP girls. Ha Ha.
I am sorry to hear about your Marina experience, but sometimes guys like us need a poor session once in a blue moon to remind us not to take things too much for granted and to remember that nobody walk can on water. Like you said, you "broke a lot of (your) personal rules" that led to the final outcome. I have been there done that, but only on rare occasions. Thank the Lord above. KKK.
On high end clinicas: I am big fan of Prime, but I have also enjoyed Lotus Lounge. I feel that punters should consider all their options when in SP and the clinicas are a great afternoon diversion.
Lotus Club: your description matches my memory. I have only been there once. Friendly managemnt. The place looked 1st class and I am sure a lot of money went into the renovation, but where are the high-quality girls? Without plenty of lookers a place is nowhere. What a shame because I wanted to like Lotus Club. I wanted the place to be great.
Cafe Photo: I have not been there yet, and your review is not very encouraging. LOL. But since I am staying at the Hyatt for one of the weeks that I am in town, I will probably give it a look see anyway and if it is no good, I will head over to Bomboa or Scandallo.
Casarao: It is on my bucket list this trip for sure, although it was on my bucket list on my last visit too. I don't know; a lot of BM's like the place, so I got to go and see what everybody is talking about, but the hours don't work for me. When I am in SP I like to be on the scent from around 9 pm to midnight. That means I have already found a girl or girls by the time Casarao starts rocking. I don't like the idea of holding off until midnight to begin my night, so my plan will be to hit Scandallo 1st, score, and then after my 1st tryst of the evening, head over to Casarao and see what happens. I love 2 fer nights.
Scandallo: "Still the king of boates. Not even a close contest. " Yeah, you got that right! Scandallo is the main reason I am not even bothering with RJ this upcoming visit. It is a shame, but RJ has nothing to offer on the same level. To top it off I have a favorite Scandallo girl that I am just smitten with. We get together mainly at my hotel nowadays. Sunday is our date night.
Inflation 1: 5 star hotel prices are going through the roof. The Renaissance & Intercontinental are asking more than $250/ night and they are not even that good, IMHO, especially the Intercontinental which is in need of a renovation. But I am going to the well on this upcoming visit, using ALL my Marriot, Intercontinental points and vouchers. That takes care of the 1st 2 weeks. Then I move south to the much more reasonably priced Hyatt and to very reasonable & comfortable Brazilian hotels in Itaim Bibi.
Inflation 2: Scandallo girly prices: Last year all the girls were happy with 500 br to 600 br. In April / May 2022 I noticed a two-tier system had evolved in Scandallo. Tier 1 girls or model quality girls were asking anywhere from 1000 br to 2000 br and Tier 2 girls or pretty girl next door types were asking under 1000 br. And I found this simple formula usually settled the issue: take the girls asking price divide by 2 and add 200 br. Every girl accepted my counter using this formula. Examples: 2000 br Tier 1 always accepted 1200 br and a 900 br Tier 2 always accepted 650 to 700 br. I am talking ST. LT is different, but I never do LT until a girl and I have some history together. Interestingly this 2-tier system does not exist at Bomboa where all the girls seem happy with 700 br or a little less.
Anyway, keep rocking. Great report!
Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
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09-17-22 13:15 #15573
Posts: 728Originally Posted by Anaggie [View Original Post]
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09-17-22 11:48 #15572
Posts: 1Report #1 from a long time lurker, first time poster
Hi ISGers, I feel obliged to contribute after reading so many of your valuable reports. Thank you to everyone who contributed, it has helped me tremendously in my first trip to SP!
So first a bit about myself. I am an Asian-Canadian, 30's, who doesn't speak anything beyond the most basic Porto (I can understand a tiny bit). Funny how the recent forum posts were discussing people's views towards Asians. My guess is Asians tend to hang out in groups and have a certain vibe about them that is very hit-or-miss. I actually don't like hanging out with fellow Asians, because socially Asians tend to just stick together and not be very open about chatting up other people. Maybe the language barrier is also an issue. I speak perfect English, so I get by.
Okay so get down to brass tacks. My sessions:
1) Giulia Monteiro from PhotoAcompanhante (PA): Loved what I saw on the profile, but aware of fake potential. Did the best to verify her identity, she even sent a disappearing WhatsApp selfie, so I had my hopes up. Went to her immediately on Tuesday morning after delayed arrival at GRU. Works out of small prive. But girl who showed up wasn't the same girl, not even the same name. They tried to offer me another girl closer to what I am looking for, but no, I don't support bait-and-switch, so I left. No money paid, just time, but since it's close to Liberdade, I walked back to places I want to see anyway. No major harm done.
2) Cleo from PA: short little cutie who works out of another prive near Santa Cruz metro. Matches photos, maybe a bit less fit than photo suggests, but still in decent shape. Very friendly attitude despite my lack of Porto. BBBJ, GFE. Great service. Had me cum once, and since I was on Viagra, I stayed hard and we sessioned again. Tried to get me to cum a second time, and as I don't cum easily to begin with, we weren't successful, but that's not her fault. In fact, she went 15 min over the hour but I was only charged the hourly rate that I paid for at the beginning, which I couldn't believe was a very cheap R170! 9/10.
3) Jasmine from Twitter (at jas_saintpierre): Fuck where do I begin? Communicated well on WhatsApp, had my hopes up since she's new on Twitter and seems to have just returned from abroad. Had a 'luxury' air about her, and since she spoke English, I thought, sure, why not? First red-flag was that she had to delay our scheduled appointment by an hour and a half. Okay, bad traffic, blah blah blah, I can deal with it. She works out of a hotel in Jardins area. It was tough getting to the area with the rainy weather, but I was there at the lobby a few minutes after the appointed time. Slow documents check, calling her down. By the time I got up with her to her room we were 20 minutes past out appointment 'start time'. She was friendly, so the conversation never went to 'hey, when does the hour actually start and end'. But she insisted R600 to start, which I tried to do the half upfront, half at the end compromise, but she wouldn't budge. Second red-flag, and how I regretted. By the time we actually started to roll in the sheets it was 7 pm. Face is decent, her body is a bit fatter than the photos on Twitter, not disgusting bad, but certainly not what I would choose in a lineup. Fake breasts, whatever. Decent enough fuck, until the phone ran at 7:30 pm (from her pimp I would later figure out), then it's like all hell broke lose. She just up and stopped, told me the hour was up, I was like wtf? She kept insisting that the appointment time started at 6:30 pm, and that I was late. I was like. Yea, but you were the who rescheduled me, and had me move my plans around. She was removing the bed sheets and refused to continue. So no warning, not even a 'hey I need to make you cum because we are almost done'. Then I assume she proceeded to call her pimp because 10 min later as I finished getting changed to leave, loud bangs at the door, and rough angry looking guy showed up. At first I thought it was another client that she seemed to suggest she had, but later as I was going through my phone in the lobby, I saw the same character bring in another girl. So no, that's her pimp. Don't know if it's Jasmine or her pimp or both that decided that's how business should be done, but fuck them both. R600 for 30 min and didn't even finish?! Avoid like the plague, don't support traffickers. 0/10.
Thank goodness a nice Italian dinner nearby made up for an otherwise terrible evening.
4) Casarao. Marina: Went there after dinner. Met an interesting character there. A local Asian man named David in his 60's was friendly, spoke good English, and took me under his wings. He explains that he's been doing this for decades and he's quite a legend for making girls cum (LOL? He chose to sit right by the door so he can immediately scan all the arrivals, and I hung out with him there for a bit. But then tons of girls come to greet him like he's some kind of godfather, he was passing me tips about girls that he know (including who to avoid) and he knows the bouncers and other regulars, so I actually think he's legit. He even had some English-speaking girls come greet me, very kind of him. Place was packed at around midnight, easily 100+girls with all the comings-and-goings. But here's the thing, I like to hunt solo, and I had my eye on a girl who at first glance looked like all kinds of wrong. She's not your typical 'hottie' - wears glasses, reminds me a bit of Anna Kendrick (who I do like). She was on her phone the moment she came in and went to the downstairs bar. When I saw her again upstairs, she's still on her phone. I was like, whatever, let's introduce myself and see what will happen. Well guess what, Marina turned out to be extremely friendly even though she doesn't speak English. I managed to get her to laugh quite a bit, and she even grinded up on me for a good while as we enjoyed the music. She tried to get me to pay her R1000, I negotiated down to R400 for the hour, which she accepted quickly. A petite little spinner, not much for breasts, but great energy in bed, BBFS, GFE, etc. We made it work despite the language barrier and had a great time. 8. 5/10.
5) Mika Nikkei (found on MClass): After an unsuccessful after tour of the Moema clinicas (nothing to my liking, I have a type), I schedule with her, trusting the website's reputation. First red-flag was her attitude on WhatsApp, I thought it was not friendly at all. R100 to schedule, second red-flag. Girl is the same as photos, but she was late because of traffic, and then had problems getting her hotel room authorized. We waited around like idiots for 30 minutes in the lobby. Third red-flag. Go upstairs, her body is not as nice as her photos (stretch marks), and she gave a half-hearted service, which is totally different from what we discussed on WhatsApp. Bad-smelling pussy. This idiot is still heading into the fucking trap. I asked for the anal she promised, she got pissed, grumbling and did it for 30's, then claimed I am hurting her (I was neither rough nor am I gifted). Okay whatever, finished around the 35 min mark with a CIM (again promised), she fucking bolted to the bathroom swearing. Like you kept your mouth open * what did you expect?! Then she came back and said we are done, I was like, wait, your service promised an hour. ? She kept swearing, refusing to even use Google translate to get her point across. I was done too, I don't need to put up with this attitude. I did say that given your lateness and the short service, I am cutting the R400 remainder payment by half (do you guys think that's fair? I do). Then she claimed that no, this is what it is, she would call police otherwise. I actually wanted to dare her to do it, or just up and run, but realizes that R200 is not worth the added drama, so was like fuck it, lesson learned. Also made me miss the early entry discount for Scandallo, so in a sense lost another R200 because of her. 0/10.
6) Isa Nakamura (at isanakamuragp3): found on Twitter, I scheduled with her, with the plan to meet her at my hotel after checking in at Scandallo. Well given what happened (see #5), I didn't bother going to Scandallo yet, and I was contemplating cancelling with Isa since I was in a bad mood. Glad I didn't. She is an educated young woman, speaks good English, who actually looked very much the part of a university student, and I like her mestizo features. 8/10 for body. She was shy to begin with, but warmed up as we had a nice conversation about travels and studies. Enhanced tits, body that is not as toned as I hoped, but easily 7. 5/10 still. Good session with BBFS and GFE. 8/10.
6) Scandallo. Nathalia: Wow, the hype is real. Wednesday night at 11 pm is a zoo. Bodies everywhere, booze flowing freely, it took me a good 45 min just to get my bearings. As I finally settled into the upstairs bar, I caught the eye of a young spinner named Bianca. Like her work name, she was dressed in all-white, almost cosplay-like outfit, complete with a white ribbon in her hair, face all dolled up. Couldn't stop applying more of her bright red lipstick while chatting with me. My guess is she's playing up that anime kawaii trope, and thought I would be a sucker for it. Truth be told, I was interested, but more because of her body type. She then had this really odd 'shy schoolgirl' attitude about her as I asked her about herself. She also kept glancing back to this other Asian dude that she was chatting with earlier. Honestly I think it's all an act, and I hated it. Did get a price though. She opened with 1000, I got her down to 400, which she accepted. She promised the world, including anal. I know this is apparently a great deal at Scandallo these days, but LOL, nope. She probably thinks I am a 10-min guy with her thing for Asians (I can easily go a full hour), and given the strange vibes about her, I told her I would get back to her after I finish my drink. She proceeded to go to the other Asian dude she was eyeing. I think they were chatting for like 2+hours (or what constituted for chatting in her books anyway, all she gave me were one word answers) because I saw them together still after I finished my time with Nathalia (below). If he sessioned with her, good for him. I hope it was good, but I doubt it LOL.
Downstairs in the main room, there were hotties everywhere, but they looked too 'pro' for my liking. As I was circling for another look in the restaurants and smokers' corner, I caught the eye of a glasses-wearing cutie named Nathalia at the back. I don't usually have a thing for girls with glasses, but both nights at different clubs it happened *shrugs*. She speaks some English, there's just a very friendly vibe about her, she claimed it's only her second time there at Scandallo, which might not be true, but she didn't seem to be a full pro. Claims to be from the northeast of Brazil. She was very helpful with getting me to navigate the Scandallo bureaucracy. She opened with 1000 for the hour, I returned 400, agreed on 500 with anal included. Woah. Not bad for a first time negotiator after all the previous reports I read, right? Anyway, upstairs the session was excellent. 8. 5/10 for body, 9/10 for face. Everything was done as promised, very GFE, we even did it a bit in the shower. Went over time by 15 min, and she honestly seemed to feel bad for me because of the added hotel fees, but I honestly don't care, since it was a tremendous session. She even left me a business card (who does that?! Haha). 9. 5/10.
7) Giovanna Berlot (MClass, Twitter): You can find other reviews about her on gp-guia. She's seriously good. R500 for 1 h, which is R100 more than a few weeks ago when I first ask for a quote, but honestly, so worth it. Doesn't speak English, but doesn't matter. Her body type is a 10/10 for me, petite and toned, and she now has new blonde hair which makes her look even hotter. Very good energy in bed also, just no anal. 9. 5/10.
7 sessions in about 48 hours. 2/7 struck out. Learned some lessons, had a great time. Not bad for a first trip to Brazil; I am now heading to Rio after a weekend with non-mongering friends.
I am not a full member yet, but if there's good feedback on these reports, I might consider it given the nice community here. Obrigado for reading. Tchau!
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09-16-22 19:45 #15571
Posts: 453First of all, SocratesNY — great report. It sucks that we missed each other by a few days and maybe next time we can plan a get together.
Arrived at Scandello approx at 915 pm and walked around for a bit. It was slow and there weren't a lot of girls. So I picked a spot at the lobby bar and ordered a beer. I was going to take it slow tonight because I wanted to find a gem that checks off my list. I haven't been to Scandello since February and I wanted to find someone who would be enjoyable to spend time with.
I talked to approx 10 girls in the first two hours but none suited my fancy. The first few conversations lasted less than 5 mins due to the fact that the girl just couldn't get keep the conversation going. It was very forced. I would walk around every once in a while and saw some that were very pretty and some that I didn't know why they were there. There is really something for everyone here. By the end of the night, there must have been over 300 girls here in all flavors.
As the dance floor area started to get crowded, I went for a walk thru and immediately saw one that caught my attention and gave her a smile. But I kept walking since the crowd and noise wasn't my cup of tea. So went back to the bar to sit down. And within 5-10 mins comes the girl who caught my attention and she orders a coffee. We started talking about the coffee and how she like to drink it and the conversation just flowed from there. She asked me to join her for a smoke out in the main patio and we went and sat down. It all started from there. We had good connection and the conversation flowed freely without long pauses.
Long story short. We stayed for another three hours chatting, drinking and ordered some appetizers. She loosened up a lot and more open to kissing and letting me get my hands under her dress below the jacket she was wearing. She ask what I wanted and I explained my wants (nothing freaky) and issues I have had previously. She gave me her price and it a bit higher that what I wanted to pay but she made a deal. If she performs up to my needs, pay that price. If she doesn't, then I need to tell her and she will leave with a much smaller payment. I said "what the hell" . We clicked well together so what do I have to lose. Her one non-negotiable was condoms for everything except oral which I was disappointed with but agreed.
She asked me to pay her consumables and I agreed. It was only 110 R so no big deal and she was ready after I paid the house fee of 300 R and my tab. Got into the taxi and she was sitting next to me and we were kissing the whole way to the hotel. In the room, after showering, both of us wanted each other and I made her orgasm a few times with DATY. She started her BBBJ and then crawled on top and went BBFS. She just told me pull out in time and I told her I was snipped so no worries. She still didn't want me to finish inside so I respected that. After we were done, I showed her my recent tests and my vasectomy proof. That put her at super ease and she still insisted on pulling out with which I will respect. Took a slight break and talked more with her all cuddling up and we started kissing again which got me ready for the next round and all she did was turn around and guided me in. Wet as fuck and again pulled out. She then turned around and told me that she loves sex and everything about sex so if I am hard at anytime this weekend, she will make sure to satisfy me. I was like. JACKPOT!! Her features were perfectly up my alley. She has a lot tattoos but I have a few so not a dealbreaker. Perfect size tits to hold in my hand, 24 hrs old, small button nipples, tight wet pussy and a perfect tight ass. No kids so no baby damage and no stretch marks on her body. A perfect 8 and her attitude makes her a 10 in my book.
Looking forward to the rest of the weekend and the sex to come. As SocratesNY said below, Scandello is the the king of all boates. I almost always find what I am looking for here and I have usually not been disappointed since I can be patient and take my time to choose the right one.
Next report will be about the weekend spent and the food that I ended up trying out this trip.
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09-16-22 19:41 #15570
Posts: 2986I am not a drinker either but I do enjoy light drinking with meal.
Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
I don't think there were more than 100 girls in several slow nights that I went. The slowest night was a cold Wednesday that outdoor area were closed. Most regulars I recognize were not in the club. The club area was half empty when I saw it from upstairs. Casarao were frequently packed during weeknights so it could have more girls relatively speaking. Also it started very late. I reported a live sex show started around 4 AM.
Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
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09-16-22 18:50 #15569
Posts: 6471The Attractive Advantage
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]