Makati

[GahRunt]

All's well that ends well. Thanks Westie and Goferring for the sage advice.

Turns out she just has a short fuse. After asking me to book a grab and me taking 5 minutes to work out how, she says "I don't like being ignored" and "Forget it, I have stuff to do anyway". I suggested I just GCash her some taxi money and she did a 180 haha. Sent 1 k which was a little generous but I wanted to send a message that I wasn't a waste of time.

She messaged me when she got here and admitted to being nervous. She showed up to my hotel lobby with her auntie as she didn't know the area well. The aunt's presence caught me off guard but I'd read reports of girls using family as escorts before so the concept wasn't utterly foreign to me. She tells me her auntie was a hottie in her day and wound up marrying a chinese guy and popping out a litter of chinito's.

Anyway, ID was left at the front desk so my fears were for nought.

She met me with nervous giggling so. Gentleman that I am. I took her to a bar to chat and assuage her fears. I'm 6'2" and looking at our reflection in the elevator I was fucking floored at how tiny she is. 4'10", 47 kg and non existent tits, I got a raging stiff right there and then.

We chatted a bit, but it was mainly her talking about her chinese exes and how she's only into asian guys. Into the room and she immediately puts on some pinoy dramas. I try to make moves and she's a little standoff-ish so I gave her an out and told her if she didn't want this, just say so, no harm done.

Was definitely just nerves, because as soon as I started kissing her neck and groping her ass, she pushed my hand towards her ****. Eating her out and fingering her gspot had her writhing and saying "fuck you" and "tau ni ma" (chinese for 'fuck you' I think). I found this hilarious! Is it a cultural thing to cuss the person giving you head? I'll do so next time I'm throating a young pinay to verify.

This one liked it hard and deep and I happily obliged. The nymph came a few times in mish and doggy before I filled her up in prone. She's now laying in bed watching the same dramas and isn't very chatty so I'll probably have to make an excuse to get rid of her. I wouldn't mind spending more time with her, except she doesn't make great company.

Says her dad gives her an allowance and that she paid for the condo she was staying in previously with an ex so unsure if she's expecting to be paid so I'll assume not until she brings it up.

[WestCoast1]

In my excitement, I've already got TanTan rolling and found a randy 19 yo that wants to see me. That is until I made a jailbait joke about checking her ID that didn't play very well and now she's mad bahaha.

I'm with Goferring, if she got mad at the idea of showing her ID, then she's trying to hide it. Ask her again to see it on cam, tell her you want to make sure of her age. Then meet in a pubic place for coffee / snack. Look again at her ID and take a picture of it. She should not be defensive about any of this, as she will be aware that your hotel guard will force her to surrender it anyway once at the front door and show it to you if you ask to see it. Guards are also pretty good about spotting a fake these days.

If her ID has her picture taped on with scotch tape, its fake. If the pic is clearly not her, its fake (well it might be real, but its not hers). If the ID is past its expiry date there is a chance the guard won't accept it as valid. If there is no place on her ID for her signature, its not valid. College ID's are no longer considered valid (ID's must come from a government source, have a pic, a signature, a birth date, and almost always have a bar code or black stripe and other security holographic features). Most guards will accept a non-expired Barangay ID as long as its a small credit card-sized and either is laminated or is the newer plastic credit-card type (with holography, not a piece of paper). A piece of paper is never a valid ID. Vaccine cards are not a form of ID, but I took several girls in the past few months where it was accepted (the card had the girl's pic on it).

I also had a girl tell me she had a valid ID, then at the guard she showed on her phone a pic of her legit CITY OF MANILA COVID-19 VACCINATION ID, which is a pretty good ID. It had her picture, full name, Brgy number, birthdate, a QR code, and dosage dates. But it doesn't have a signature area. Its the same electronic vax record that I have. It was not accepted by the guard for two reasons, according to him: 1) There was no signature area; and 2) It was just an electronic pic on her phone. "If I will accept this then the girl will need to surrender her phone as the ID is inside the phone. Sorry". Well, he's probably right. Interesting that the girl said its her first rejection using her legit vax.

Another residence was requiring a surrendered ID and they wanted to view the girl's vax card (required for all entry at the time). I made sure that I photographed several of my regular's vax cards as they always had an ID, but having their vax card on them is happenstance. Surrendering her ID and showing her vax card on my phone worked.

If she is not willing to show you her (valid) ID, move on.

[Goferring]

Still, the possibility of jailbait is in the back of my mind, and she apparently doesn't drink so no opportunity to have someone check her ID before I dick her down.

Any of you have doubts about a girls age before? Any tips to check on the sly appreciated!

It can be REALLY hard to guess an Asian girl's age. Young look old, old look young so guessing if a 19 yo is legal or not is a mine field.

What did you do to piss her off about showing her ID? If you insulted her and she is angry, then fair enough. If she is just using it as an excuse to hide her ID and age, then it's a major red flag.

Having a coffee, meal etc with a young girl is no big deal. However, being alone in your room with her half / fully naked can have extremely serious consequences. I'd suggest you have a word with security and let them know that should you both return you want them to check, verify and keep her ID. This is standard practice at many hotels but you don't want to fall though and gaps.

Of course, many will say with millions of safe options, why even take the risk. Just move into girl #768346.

Take care. G.

[WestCoast1]

Its an odd bar. Eating / drinking area outside.

Inside its a small live band place, seats about 40, see pic. But they have GRO's whom the mama won't refer to as GRO (older, fair looking). They dress in street clothes or clubbing clothes. Was in again, a week ago. Mamasan brought me 3 girls from outside before I had a chance to get a beer on the table. The girls sat with me uninvited by me. The mama asked if I wanted to buy them a drink and I declined. She chat me for 10 minutes and asked me to buy them a drink 7 times. Downed my beer, paid the tab, and left. The band, which I came to see, was pretty good. But the mama was driving me crazy with drink requests. The door is to the left of this pic. There is a pool table to the right, in the back of the bar.

Came back a few nights ago to a different band (not bad). The mama stayed away and I didn't get hassled for anything. The place has a nice vibe to it.

Separately I walked into Amor's a few nights ago (Ebro St, behind V8 on Burgos). Same strange vibe, and I was the only customer (again). Turned and walked out.

[GahRunt]

Hey gents, new to the forum, new to the phils but not to mongering. Many thanks for all the field reports to date and will be contributing some myself.

Flying in on Monday with a plan to visit beach destinations and tee up some raw dogging in between. Got a room booked at city garden grand already for a few days.

In my excitement, I've already got TanTan rolling and found a randy 19 yo that wants to see me. That is until I made a jailbait joke about checking her ID that didn't play very well and now she's mad bahaha. I'll chalk it up to cultural differences and see if I can make it up to her with a dessert date.

I still need time to get my bearings clearly.

G.

[GahRunt]

Hey gents, new to the forum, new to the phils but not to mongering. Many thanks for all the field reports to date and will be contributing some myself.

Flying in on Monday with a plan to visit beach destinations and tee up some raw dogging in between. Got a room booked at city garden grand already for a few days.

I've already got TanTan rolling and found a randy 19 yo that wants to see me. However I made a jailbait joke about checking her ID that didn't play very well and now she's mad. I'll chalk it up to cultural differences and see if I can make it up to her with a dessert date.

Still, the possibility of jailbait is in the back of my mind, and she apparently doesn't drink so no opportunity to have someone check her ID before I dick her down.

Any of you have doubts about a girls age before? Any tips to check on the sly appreciated!

[WestCoast1]

Remember: White is cool. Brown is warm (and supple). Red is hot. Skinny is wonderful. 19 is great.

[WestCoast1]

Lion's Pride, across from the defunct Jools / Horizons, is closed, several nights running. The little birdie tells me that a large truck was outside Sunday morning, and workers were carting out chairs, tables, and sundry other items to the truck. Guessing that having almost no customers in the bar night after night might be the cause. To be fair to the bar, there were a few parties for whales, but not enough.

Reporting from ASB-ISG-GAM news, this is West E. Coast.

[WestCoast1]

For WC1's viewing pleasure.

Open the "View Original Post" link.

Holy f*ck I missed that until just now!

On another note. The little birdie tells me that something new is happening on Burgos. Previously the birdie told me that it heard construction sounds inside the place between Fyre and V8. Few days ago a large dump truck was seen outside by the birdie, being filled with broken cement from inside, and a new door. What next? The birdie thinks a new resto or gogo is coming.

[Goferring]

For WC1's viewing pleasure.

Open the "View Original Post" link.

Well when it rains, it pours.

[Goferring]

These kind of 1-offs happen routinely to girls in Phils. Yesterday she was a p10 k girl, today (emergency! Must pay the electric TODAY, why didn't she pay it YESTERDAY?) she's a p2000 girl. Have been the recipient of these emergencies (whether from an influencer / model or just a local po gal) too many times to count.

Sir G: You have titillated us. Got a pic by chance for us lesser-fortunates?

1/ It's amazing how poor money managers the girls are and how quickly it disappears should the tap get shut off. Many similar stories to yours during the various bombings, SARS, volcanoes etc of girls weighed down with gold and diamonds one day and absolutely flat broke two days later.

2/ Sorry, I never take in-coitus photos. Their promo shot is attached to the original post link in my earlier message.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

Challenge accepted:

My last trip to Bali, on the way to a high end Massage++ (would have been a $200 day), I got a WhatsApp. Girlie is broke so will include her twin sister in the deal. Plus, buy one shot get the second shot free. End deal is two twins, two shots, as long as I want, 1. 5 million Rupiah (just under 6000 p).

These kinds of 1-offs happen everywhere, when a girl gets desperate. Have had the occasional model or influencer contact me in dire need. Interesting that in Phils, these types of higher-end girls still live in squalor with their family or boyfriend. One gent informed me that he gave one of these girls p10 k per ST (she stays all afternoon, no rush on the clock, for the second pop), and had her reserved twice a week. That's p20 k per week from just one guy. When I had her, she kept waffling the price down (at certain times, at other times she was simply not available at my kuripot price). Her IG and FB (separate accounts for both, for herself / friends / family, another professional) showed 2 different lifestyles.

One evening in a rough part of Manila I passed a street that I recognized from her family FB page from a picture of her and friends. This was where she lived? I pulled out my phone and pulled up a pic of me and Jennifer, a selfie that she snapped (always a narcissist) of us at Starbucks using my phone. I cropped myself out of the pic, and showed the pic of her to several local girls passing by, asking if they knew the girl. "Jennifer? Yes she lives there", and they pointed to a set of shacks that appeared to be about to collapse at any moment. Sheer luck to find someone that way. I walked on. I'm sure that my presence was chismosa'd to her the next day that a foreigner had asked about her. WTF is she (and her fam) doing living there, while raking in p80 k per month (from just one guy, probably 100 k per month or more total)?

These kind of 1-offs happen routinely to girls in Phils. Yesterday she was a p10 k girl, today (emergency! Must pay the electric TODAY, why didn't she pay it YESTERDAY?) she's a p2000 girl. Have been the recipient of these emergencies (whether from an influencer / model or just a local po gal) too many times to count.

Sir G: You have titillated us. Got a pic by chance for us lesser-fortunates?

[Goferring]

Pre-pademic it was barfine + tip, where tip was: Hottie = 6 k (no compromise / negotiation); Fair girls = 5 k requested, possible negotiation down to 4 k; Fuglies = 4 or 5 k requested, usually negotiate down to 3-4 k. Even older fuglies who were too old to be GRO's, such as a fat late 40's massage lady, if available, would not budge below 3 k on tip....

Happy to hear someone got a gogo to negotiate.

Are you saying my Bottoms girl was a Fuglie? LOL. . .

Challenge accepted:

My last trip to Bali, on the way to a high end Massage++ (would have been a $200 day), I got a WhatsApp. Girlie is broke so will include her twin sister in the deal. Plus, buy one shot get the second shot free. End deal is two twins, two shots, as long as I want, 1. 5 million Rupiah (just under 6000 p).

Well when it rains, it pours.....

Cheers. G.

[WestCoast1]

Both the opening bid of 8 k and final price of 6 k plus drinks for an overnighter is on par with pre-pandemic pricing. From memory, my last Burgos fee was 10 drinks BF (3700 p) plus 4 k in the morning from Bottoms close to 3 years ago.

I'd regard 6 k for all night with a cutie as fair pricing anywhere along the street.

Concur. Pre-pademic it was barfine + tip, where tip was: Hottie = 6 k (no compromise / negotiation); Fair girls = 5 k requested, possible negotiation down to 4 k; Fuglies = 4 or 5 k requested, usually negotiate down to 3-4 k. Even older fuglies who were too old to be GRO's, such as a fat late 40's massage lady, if available, would not budge below 3 k on tip.

However, since pandemic re-opening, all the ladies will open with p6 k. Only one (brand new FOB) girl said 5 k to start. The girls now are keen to stick to their opening price. Some of them are extremely new to the bar, and nobody explained the rules to them when they hired in. As we previously have discussed, the girls listen to their co-workers (mafiosa) and stick to what they are told. A co-worker tells a new fugly to insist on 5 or 6 k, and she will do it, and almost certainly lose this evenings possible barfine guy. He's going to look across the bar at any better-tier girl and get her for the same amount.

Now, for pinay logic (listed in the Logic Handbook as THE BEST LOGIC OF ALL). A current gogo hottie, age 27 and she's ALL THAT. Hot bod, good face, horny, extremely narcissistic. On my first meeting with her in her bar, while lap dancing on me, she suggested that we exchange phone numbers, and we did (in front of the mama), and have an afternoon 'cheat-the-bar' hookup, for 2500. A bit later, after I'd left, she txt "When we can meet? Tomorrow?" A few minutes later: "2500 its 2 rounds". As I ignore her txts, it becomes "2000 its 2 rounds". Two weeks later I'm back in her bar and have a drink with a different girl (the mama threw the girl in my lap as I sat down, which is not unusual these days). After the drink and the bar girl leaves, the first girl walks over and says: "You didn't take me short time. Barfine me". Ahem, how much is the barfine? "3900 and my tip 6000". Hmmm, 6 k is a lot for a tip. Can we negotiate down? "No its 6000". Ahem-ahem, one pop tonight and one in the morning? "Yes".

Ahem-ahem-ahem. Why would I pay 10 k for that, when I can have you for 2 pops in the afternoon for 2 k, and only have to put up with you for a few hours? "Haha. OK". She turned and walked away. If she was serious about a barfine, why not drop that tip to 4 k to increase the odds of a barfine happening in that moment? She would receive 1 k from the barfine and 4 k for tip (5 k total), for 2 pops and sleeping with aircon / nice bed, as opposed to sitting in a bar all night with few customers and small chance of a barfine. Pinay logic.

Happy to hear someone got a gogo girl to negotiate.

[Goferring]

Prices are rising dramatically....

Both the opening bid of 8 k and final price of 6 k plus drinks for an overnighter is on par with pre-pandemic pricing. From memory, my last Burgos fee was 10 drinks BF (3700 p) plus 4 k in the morning from Bottoms close to 3 years ago.

I'd regard 6 k for all night with a cutie as fair pricing anywhere along the street.

Cheers. G.