Pattaya Reports

[Explorer8939]

555 I always thought the 3 day rule was that you never take a woman you don't know well on a trip longer than 3 days, because there is a good chance that by day 3 you will be tired of her shit. LOL.

Yes.

You get sick of her in 3 days, or she gets sick of you. 3 days is sort of a natural limit.

There are exceptions, of course.

[TempStories]

Pattaya during day time was a real disappointment. Went to Honey 1 and 2, lineup was average. Not even one that seemed worth taking and most will only do CBJ. Most massage shops had ladies who I will not fuck for free also. AG massage said that they don't do FS. Went back to Soi6. By 2:30 pm, it had lot more girls. Choose a 21 year old. Looks like prices have increased here. They are now asking 1500 for girl and 400 for room. Tried negotiating but Mamasan did not budge. Finally went up with the girl. She could also almost pass like a school girl given her innocent look, tight body and small boobs. She was green and that is what made the session exciting. Most of them don't know what to say no to. I forced her to deep throat by holding her neck and she did it. I banged her from front, then doggie and then again front, asked her to suck me a few times in between and she was ok with it. While fucking, she could not control and came herself. Finally, I came in her mouth which was also a surprise for her. She tired moving her head away but I had a strong grip on her neck. The best part is the looks these girls have after the shower. They are ashamed that they came during the session, they try complaining about light hickeys they got. Kind of a total surprise kind of look. I never repeat such girls since they know what to expect next time.

[AggieDad1]

I've never heard of the 3-day rule being interpreted that way, but it makes sense. Typically, I understood the 3-day rule to mean that it is a way to help prevent a customer from falling head over heels in love with a bargirl, by cutting it off at 3 days instead of extending it.

But it is true, the more time you spend with a lady, the service goes down a lot. Their true lazy nature comes out and they do the bare minimum.

I can't believe how terrible it has gotten. It's so bad these days, that it's so noticeable when a girl does NOT have any tattoos! I'd say 80-90% of bargirls have tattoos, far higher percentage wise than any other demographic in the world. I really do not like them and makes me cringe when I see guys give likes and gushes over tatted up bargirls on Facebook or Instagram. And I agree about the boob job as well, total turn off.

555 I always thought the 3 day rule was that you never take a woman you don't know well on a trip longer than 3 days, because there is a good chance that by day 3 you will be tired of her shit. LOL.

[ElMexicant]

While going chasing the unicorn hot 20 year old at GoGo might pay off I think most times out of 10 one could be in for disappointment... Ended up taking one of the two cashiers for a quickie in the curtain area... Came back last night for the price of 1 looker at high rollers I got 3 to join me upstairs for round of BJ's at Maggie Mays, yes thats right 3... Yes they weren't the prettiest but they work hard to make sure you are happy and fun attitude... I found two stunners at two bars I wouldn't have other wise visited if it wasn't for random chance ha ha...TF has been shit for me anyways.

Above cannot coexist with each other. It's like saying I like to stay healthy and talking about Jollibee's.

[ElMexicant]

I think guys are willing to pay for overpriced drinks during a Pattaya bar crawl because it's a thrill to think every girl he sees could be between the sheets in only a few minutes. Maybe she's not his type. Perhaps he's not ready to pull the trigger. But it's a rush to know the moment he decides to go the girl is willing. So this is what Pattaya has become? We have to "pre-qualify" the girls?

Myth: Hot girls in Pattaya are readily available at the cost of a drink, barfine, and the going rate.

The Truth: Hot girls in Pattaya are the smartest and most cunning. If successful, what you are getting are middle of the pack or last tier girls. You will bid for their companionship with lots of drinks paid for by yourself and other competitors. If lucky and you win, you will be paying in excess of 4-5 times what the Thai guys pay for online for the hot girls. And even then, the hot ones don't need to go with anyone. A few of the girls have told me, 100% of the price of the lady drinks goes to them. So every time you pay that 200 for her drink, it all goes to her 10 day contract salary. If they run short on their 10 day quota in drinks, the girls will cover their own difference with their own money. That way they still get full value for those lady drinks. If their contract requires one or two barfines, they will pay that themselves. And still get the full price of those drinks paid to their salaries.

Spent about 2 more hours in Pin Up again last night sitting by the front next to the DJ booth. Saw only 2 barfines (coyotes) amongst the 120 or so girls. Recommend any newbie to sit and just watch the dynamics of things, even pay attention to the "shot" lady drink and how fast they down that instead of sitting a full rotation. Be careful when those shot trays come around. They just drink in font of you and go away. Means they dislike you. If they set it down and come back, means they either like you or will milk more. Pay attention to how your receipt is placed in your bin. Folded or open. It shows if you are already with a girl but she's on stage or has another customer. You have been labeled as "taken" by the waitstaff. There are lots more sneaky things that go on in there.

Games People Play. I have yet to see any recent reports with proof (pics) that the hottest girls are being bargained from the GoGo bars. And don't give me that beauty in the eye of the beholder shit. We all know which ones are the top tier girls. Just because we didn't have any luck or they ignore us, we do not need to devalue their worth or hotness.

[Explorer8939]

"Ended up taking one of the two cashiers for a quickie in the curtain area. "

How do you do a quickie in the curtain area? You mean a quick BJ?

[Bunky]

Mr. Goferring: "Two things that I enjoyed were making a night of it by joining a group of buddies and a gaggle of fun girls and bouncing from bar to nightclub and then waking up the next morning and getting rid of morning wood. With the focus on short time, both seem to be disappearing. Pretty girls are available but the market is moving towards a more mechanical and fast pace encounter."

I blame the bar owners for the difficulty finding girls willing to go out on the town or spend the night, or both. They want to sell drinks, and they know letting the girls disappear for some or all of the night makes it less likely guys will alight in their bar. This isn't going to change until the number of girls in town increases, and by a lot.

Senor Mexicant: "Last night I was at Pin Up for a couple of hours with another Pattaya long stay ISGer. We get these girls for 1500 2000ST on their days off. What say you now?"

I say that's possible for guys who live in Pattaya (and their wingmen) who play the long game. Eventually they'll find a girl they fancy who isn't a quick buck artist or princess, and who is willing to drop by for a short time during her "off" hours. For a guy on a two-week holiday this is very difficult.

"There are absolutely drink only hustlers there at Pin UP. Never call them from the stage. Wait until they get off and sit. Then approach and ask: Do you boom boom?"

I think guys are willing to pay for overpriced drinks during a Pattaya bar crawl because it's a thrill to think every girl he sees could be between the sheets in only a few minutes. Maybe she's not his type. Perhaps he's not ready to pull the trigger. But it's a rush to know the moment he decides to go the girl is willing. So this is what Pattaya has become? We have to "pre-qualify" the girls?

Mr. Roberts: "Accept that this is what Pattaya is for a while. Maybe it gets better, but I suspect that with all the sponsors and simps all over the world that live in our home countries where an endless war is being waged against men, there is a never ending pipeline for these girls to supplement their income."

I'll pass on the opening here to decry the "Wussification of Western Men." Instead I'll just say that women have made money off their looks for thousands of years. In Pattaya at the present time, lots of women can scrape by using their looks OUTSIDE the bedroom.

"I think the smartphone and internet has done more damage than anything else. One girl has an OnlyFans page, and she has over 100 people paying her USD $9 bucks a month. But 40,000 Baht a month puts her at three times what a factory worker makes."

What's the old saying? Don't hate the player; hate the game. Some of the girls may have a better head for business than others. But in the aggregate their economic decisions are rational. If there are "sex adjacent" ways to make money, if there are bar owners willing to pay them to increase drinks sales, if there are overseas sponsors with deep pockets and soft hearts, they'll stay out of the bedroom.

What will change that? As Mr. Roberts notes, if fewer bar and club owners were willing to pay them to hustle drinks that might help. A buyers' strike sounds great, but how realistic is that? Maybe competition? But from where?

[Mr Enternational]

I've never heard of the 3-day rule being interpreted that way, but it makes sense. Typically, I understood the 3-day rule to mean that it is a way to help prevent a customer from falling head over heels in love with a bargirl, by cutting it off at 3 days instead of extending it.

That was my understanding as well.

[Mr Enternational]

The 3 day rule is well known: if you barfine a lady for 3 days, her performance drops off sharply, so that by day 3, you are happy to see you go.

So you are saying that if you are with a chick for 3 days, every time you stick your dick into her you are trying to rock her world? Because that sure does not hold for me. I am not trying to go at 100% with the same damn chick for 100 times. I would think the same goes for bar girls, women, or people in general. I will fuck good at night and pull out all the stops, then in the morning fuck just enough to get a nut in. Is anybody fucking someone they are used to the same way they will fuck a new person?

[Wayne Roberts]

Covid lockdown made clear how precious the two week millionaires are for the industry.

Including the expats. Without tourists all girls went back home and there were not many left for the expats.

Expats know how to manage prices, no matter if a.

Tourist pays the double.

There is a lot of truth to this. I think the cheap charlies have always hated the two week millionaires because they think they push the price up by spoiling the girls, but what they never realized is that it was the two week millionaires that were also bringing the girls in. A lot of these girls often came into the industry looking for boyfriends and maybe husbands too, and they were not really after the wily old fox that had been living in the city for the last 10 years and was going to be far more mindful of the pennies he was spending. The lure of big money from their perspective, especially from people whose service expectations were likely to be lower too was another factor.

[Wayne Roberts]

But here's the rub of it: There are an infinite number of little beach towns. Pattaya's magic "plus factor" has always been the P4P scene. Right now that scene is arguably so lousy that the "plus factor" is very small. Will things gets better? I'm pessimistic. Thailand is now a relatively affluent country. The birth rate has been falling for years. The current regime is hostile to naughty boy tourism. Different business models allow girls to make money outside the bedroom. Meanwhile the Boomer Boys are aging fast. Neoliberal economic policies in North America and the Eurozone have depleted their disposable income. Who's going to replace them? Our brothers from the subcontinent? Working class Chinese dudes? *Maybe* our friends in Northeast Asia. But are there enough of them to reverse the trend?.

Great post Bunky, you nailed it.

I have 4 different views at the moment, so I am still trying to decide where my head is at with things.

1 - Given how average looking the women are in the P4P scene in Pattaya right now, I am spending more time chasing down freelancers and girls on dating sites anyway. I am not sure what the point of being in Pattaya actually is, because I could be doing the same in places like Samui or Krabi and spend my days in a far nicer part of the country. Granted I won't have access to this many freelancers, but I have been here enough to know that line is blurred anyway.

2 - Spend more time in BKK. Its not so much cost in Pattaya as the quality being poor, and at least in BKK the options are better at a slightly higher price. BKK has always been great for a few days, but I don't know if I could spend a month there given I can work remotely. The great thing is that the massage shops, oilies, soapies and escort scene is MUCH better quality wise, for maybe a 20% increase in price. If its predominantly sex, then BKK is a better bet if you are not one to sit in a bar all day.

3 - Accept that this is what Pattaya is for a while. Maybe it gets better, but I suspect that with all the sponsors and simps all over the world that live in our home countries where an endless war is being waged against men, there is a never ending pipeline for these girls to supplement their income. I think the smartphone and internet has done more damage than anything else. One girl I repeat with has an OnlyFans page, and she says she has cut back on fucking for money because that is slowly growing. She has over 100 people paying her 9 bucks a month and gets tips and extras for custom videos, photos and msgs. That does not sound like much, but 40 k baht a month just from Onlyfans puts her at three times what a factory worker makes. So she has pushed her ST and LT rates up, is picky about who she fucks now and she sticks to regulars she likes or better looking younger guys she is attracted to. This is a girl who would have been working a pole 15 years ago, but she is simply not in the scene and she does her own thing. I don't begrudge the girls for doing this at all either, but it does mean that Pattaya and the industry is changing and what it has to offer is changing a lot too. I think expectations need an adjustment. I also think that maybe there are just waaaaay too many venues in Pattaya, and that has spread everything so thin that competition for girls has outstripped supply by a good margin.

4 - Head to a different part of Asia that is not Thailand or Philippines right now. I work remotely so need to be in this time zone, otherwise I would be in Latin America. I'm considering popping over to Vietnam, although I believe its tricky there too right now. Jakarta is shit I might as well go to Manila, which leaves Bali in Indonesia but that is also suffering with a post covid hangover.

[YngMong]

My plan going in was to hit up a few GC for no nonsense fun. While going chasing the unicorn hot 20 year old at GoGo might pay off I think most times out of 10 one could be in for disappointment. Not to say I won't try it but any ways here's my sit rep on a few places I went to.

I had good expectations for La Postee. Walked and right at opening 6 girls 2 were decent but already with customers, you couldn't pay me to touch the others and they were very pushy for drinks.

Camel Toe, same all older pretty nasty had a drink left.

Amsterdam. Still only two girls were busy when I arrived. Dutch owner seemed more interested in chatting with his dutch buddies then even acknowledging me was only other customer. Left and went to Purple Bar two places down. At least 3 hotties out of the 6 or 8. 500 BJ and 300 for small room. I would go back to try the blondie that I saw after my session.

Went to high rollers last night and yes the girls were better than the rest but prices were quite a bit higher all around plus watching them interact with the customers I could tell most likely was going to have a poor performance.

My favourite Maggie May's. Out of the GC's I went to this strikes the best balance between lookers, attitude and general fun atmosphere.

Mid afternoon first day went it girls not too pushy. Ended up taking one of the two cashiers for a quickie in the curtain area.

Came back last night for the price of 1 looker at high rollers I got 3 to join me upstairs for round of BJ's at Maggie Mays, yes thats right 3. Yes they weren't the prettiest but they work hard to make sure you are happy and fun attitude.

By the time I left atleast 3 or 4 girls were totally naked I think if you buy them a few tequila shots clothes come off and everyone was having a great time. I might check out a few other GC's but will probably stick to what's tried and true.

I found two stunners at two bars I wouldn't have other wise visited if it wasn't for random chance ha ha. Since I'm not done with them I won't share details but once I am will be happy to share.

Both 1500 baht LT and 300-500 BF.

TF has been shit for me anyways.

After three days I'm a bit worn out I'm suppose to come back for another week in a few weeks might have to reevaluate. I have found if one place isn't vibing just leave theres 100 other places to check out something will be of interest.

[YngMong]

Never been to Pattaya before so this is my take of course everyones interests will vary.

Got checked in and the HIE around midnight, walked to Soi Pothole was hoping to hit up Maggie Mays for a quick ST then explore a bit more but was closed already by the time I got there. Few other bars on the street I had done some research on didn't have any lookers. Walked around a bit to get a lay of the land, LK Metro & Tree Town. Was busy, since I wasn't here before Covid I can't compare numbers of customers vs ladies etc but my initial impression is alot of ladies that are past their prime and younger non lookers.

By 2 am got a bit frustrated couldn't find anything I like. Ended up sitting down for a drink I think at a place called Excite (Beer Bar) right as your turn left onto LK Metro Soi Buakaho its on the corner right side. Found a cute little Issan girl, which seems like the majority of ladies are. Forgot her name but she has two cheek piercings. She seemed the kinky type, she said BF was 1000 which seemed steep and the fact the bar was closing seemed dump. I was tired and didn't feel like arguing and paid the BF, off we went. LT 1500 baht, she wanted more I wasn't going to have it.

Super kinky, loved it getting some fingers up the ass as she got fucked. Asked how much I wanted to give her for A+, I didn't feel like paying more at the time most likely could have just tried and she would have gone with it but was tired and wanted to get off. Got my satisfaction and sent her packing, I would recommend her at least once but she seemed like a pro money leech and for that reason wouldn't repeat too many options in town.

TBC.

[YngMong]

Arrived BKK after 29 hours + travel around 2100 45 minutes early, breezed through customs. A bit annoyed that my ride via Nams lady taxi wasn't watching my flight and ended up waiting 45 minutes in arrivals, but over all the service was good, booked the L sedan nice big sedan for the 1. 5 HR trip.

Arrived at the Holiday Inn Express, I think its a fantastic brand new hotel for the price, extremely clean good location good breakfast. There is a good money exchange across the road (I always use to pull out from the ATM but I did the math and it's better to exchange cash, much better rate then my bank but may vary depending on your bank, I only exchange what I need for the day) , in house laundry machines. If your walk to the left as you leave the hotel and walk to the first major intersection there are two great carts that does really good espresso and coffee as well as fresh fruit smoothies. Both for under 100 Baht. Then same direction you have Mamas Burgers which she makes the meanest burgers, hot dogs etc and very reasonable prices. Popular with all the expats, only open at night so great post bar 2 am snack.

Also Nemo massage is a 2 minute walk, very good legit massage place.

TBC.

[Banana Boi]

The 3 day rule is well known: if you barfine a lady for 3 days, her performance drops off sharply, so that by day 3, you are happy to see you go.

I've never heard of the 3-day rule being interpreted that way, but it makes sense.

I actually like Explorer's 3 day rule. Totally agree that by date 3 or a 3rd session in a G club service is way downhill for the vast majority of girls. (no one hacked my account and posted this).