Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Captain Solo]

Tsfh.

Parking is free at trolley stops along freeway 5, but only for 24 hours. After 24 hours your car may be towed.

Cheapest parking is behind jack in box, at the South end of Blvd San San Ysidro, $23 per 8 hours.

Follow the crowd to walk South behind the McDonald to cross into Mexico. Latest news Mex Imm no longer extorts $30 visitor permit. Just show them your passport and stay cool.

After exiting Mex Imm building, follow the crowd South to the taxi stand. Along this path is HK's small office with its limo. It's safest to sit there and wait for limo pickup. Next safest option is to walk beyond the taxi stand and book UBER. On the way back, ride HK's limousine back to that taxi stand and walk North to border.

Safety risks in Tijuana are exaggerated, Unless you piss off the cartels, they would not waste bullets on you and buy more heat for themselves. The bar block between Hong Kong, Adelita, Chicago, Tropical and the alley has lots of security cameras and people day and night, pretty safe. Just stay away from drug dealers near and across the alley from HK's back door, also on Ave. Constitucion in front of hotel Rapido, just in case they start shooting each other.

[Jackie888]

Hello all,

Long-time international mongerer here, been all over Europe, SA, Africa and SE Asia at night (and even certain unsavory cities in the US) and never felt really unsafe. I've been around Mexico as well but never Tijuana. But that changes this weekend. However, reading the forum and the news the past couple weeks has made me a little uneasy. I plan on only partaking in drinks, food and hobbying, drugs do not interest me. I have a room at Cascadas already booked and plan to just spend time in HK and maybe Adelitas.

My question is: what is the safest way in and out? I want to minimize my time exposed to crazies or potentially unsavory cabbies or locals. My thought was:

-park near border / or take tram to border.

-walk across w / some extra cash on hand in case a border agent eyes me funny.

-grab an UBER or? Maybe the HK VIP limo?? Would this be the safest way? The thought of getting a cab makes me nervous to be honest.

-uber vs limo back to border to US.

Thanks in advance from this old gringo.

Go to the San Diego MTA, identify trams with parking lots because not all have parking lots. Then park at the parking lots a little further north because there is a lot of theft and homeless folks hanging around the Southern lots. Dress down to fit in, like jeans, sneakers, t-shirt, jacket, cap. Leave everything behind that show you have wealth like an expensive watch. Use the HK transport or Adelitas, or Chicago because they are safer than taxi drivers. Put a $20 in your shoe just in case you get robbed and need money go get back. Fridays and Saturdays seem to be the safest days because of heavy military patrols.

[Dogers69]

Another gringo thought mexixo was a game. Must been told bad things only happen to drug dealers. Cause we hear that alot. Obviously it ain't true if you read the news of gringo issues and mexican regular people violence. https://youtu.be/jSfmrTiqunE.

[Tsfh14]

Hello all,

Long-time international mongerer here, been all over Europe, SA, Africa and SE Asia at night (and even certain unsavory cities in the US) and never felt really unsafe. I've been around Mexico as well but never Tijuana. But that changes this weekend. However, reading the forum and the news the past couple weeks has made me a little uneasy. I plan on only partaking in drinks, food and hobbying, drugs do not interest me. I have a room at Cascadas already booked and plan to just spend time in HK and maybe Adelitas.

My question is: what is the safest way in and out? I want to minimize my time exposed to crazies or potentially unsavory cabbies or locals. My thought was:

-park near border / or take tram to border.

-walk across w / some extra cash on hand in case a border agent eyes me funny.

-grab an UBER or? Maybe the HK VIP limo?? Would this be the safest way? The thought of getting a cab makes me nervous to be honest.

-uber vs limo back to border to US.

Thanks in advance from this old gringo.

[Tsfh14]

Hello all, longtime global mongerer including some places around Mexico but never been to Tijuana. Until now. I've wandered around various SE Asian, African and European countries at night (and all around the US' hairy cities) and overall never felt too uneasy. But reading through these forums extensively the past few days and seeing the news, I'm getting a little uneasy.

For a first-timer who doesn't want to mess around, what would be the consensus safest way? I have a room booked at Cascadas already and plan on not leaving the premises of HK / Cascadas and maybe Adelitas. Strictly going to drink, eat and hobby. Don't do drugs or have any interest in them.

I was going to take the tram to the border, walk across, have some cash on hand in case a border patrol agent decides I look like an easy target and get an UBER not a cab to HK. Conversely, I am considering the HK private limo. Would this be the safest option?

And returning back to US, limo or Uber back to border.

Thanks in advance for humoring this old paranoid Tijuana noob.

[Captain Solo]

Cocr,

Chavelas' back door was nailed shut with a metal door.

I did not ask HK 's security guys. Have no idea how those 2 guys do.

The pics show both shot in the chest, lying cold on a big pool of blood right inside Chavelas' back door. Shot at close range, waited for 15-20 minutes before EMT could get there. I think their chance of surviving is slim.

The mood at the club's doors was somber and scared. Will ask them this weekend.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Did they both die Captain?

[Azfriole]

Got adventurous over this weekend and decided to take the trolley all the way down to Tijuana. And my experience was FUCK there is a lot of homeless people on the trolleys, and a number of them are off their rockers and treat the trolley as their home. I guess the only good thing is that normal people tend to sit together in groups hoping that we are safe in a herd. And as menacing a homeless dude looks when he starts an imaginary shouting match with his imaginary friend, he is only one. I was feeling pretty confident until my fellow middle class riders got off at the stadium, compelling me to jump to another car to preserve my sanity. Yeah, I definitely would not recommend wearing anything looking nice while on the trolley. It is not as bad as the LA trolley. But it is pretty close.

Yea I've felt more uneasy waiting for and on the blue line than I have ever in Tijuana.

[LuvMexicanas]

Got adventurous over this weekend and decided to take the trolley all the way down to Tijuana. And my experience was FUCK there is a lot of homeless people on the trolleys, and a number of them are off their rockers and treat the trolley as their home. I guess the only good thing is that normal people tend to sit together in groups hoping that we are safe in a herd. And as menacing a homeless dude looks when he starts an imaginary shouting match with his imaginary friend, he is only one. I was feeling pretty confident until my fellow middle class riders got off at the stadium, compelling me to jump to another car to preserve my sanity. Yeah, I definitely would not recommend wearing anything looking nice while on the trolley. It is not as bad as the LA trolley. But it is pretty close.

I take the trolley blue line all the time from the American Plaza station to San Ysidro and never had an issue. Sure there are some batshit crazy people, but just ignore them and don't engage in even the minutest of chit chat. Having said that, if an idiot chose to test me (in other words physically assault me), they'd quickly realize that I'm quick and have power in both hands.

[Jackie888]

People talk about the rapper that got shot for his chain in the los angles chicken place 2 weeks ago. It's important for guys to know you will get robbed just wearing dress pants and a nice shirt on the san Diego trolley. Never mind showing a laptop. The middle income people don't take the trolley in San Diego unless it's for a Padres game just parking 3 stops away. AR the trolley station I saw 7 Latino guys have argument with 1 of their friends and then surround him, ready to pounce. He walked slowly as they surrounded him, till he got to the garbage pail and pulled out a machete from the pail he stored ahead of time. That's basically san Diego public transportation for you.

Got adventurous over this weekend and decided to take the trolley all the way down to Tijuana. And my experience was FUCK there is a lot of homeless people on the trolleys, and a number of them are off their rockers and treat the trolley as their home. I guess the only good thing is that normal people tend to sit together in groups hoping that we are safe in a herd. And as menacing a homeless dude looks when he starts an imaginary shouting match with his imaginary friend, he is only one. I was feeling pretty confident until my fellow middle class riders got off at the stadium, compelling me to jump to another car to preserve my sanity. Yeah, I definitely would not recommend wearing anything looking nice while on the trolley. It is not as bad as the LA trolley. But it is pretty close.

[Hargow20]

The last few times I was Tijuana there seems to far less dealers in the Zona & by Hotel Cece. I usually hang out by Hotel Cece to oberrve the girls and wait for my regular girl. Yesereday I only 2 dealers come out around 8 pm. The police and national guard have been arresting more of the street dealers.

[Arthasboi]

Hello,

I was nearby at Valerio when this happened. Heard all the sirens coming but didn't hear the gunshots. Walked around and saw the yellow tape and such. The alley was empty of Street girls while they were cleaning up but by the night time everything was back to normal. I feel like the locals see it as a part of life. There were girls on the side streets facing the alley as if nothing happened.

[Captain Solo]

HK recently installed a lot more security cameras on all 3 floors in the club, also in Cascada, manned by a bunch of security guys in a central control room, just like big Vegas casinos. They constantly surveil clients in the club and record in HD videos.

Most likely security cameras detect a guy's irregular activities and alert security guys on the floor to check. If the guy did not cause any problem, security had no right to evict him. A wingman was acting wildly, dancing around in front of the main bar drawing attention to himself, interacting with a stripper without tipping. 2 beefy meseros grabbed him by his arms, dragging him out. I thought I was their well-known client so I told them, " he's with me, let him go. " Meseros barked back "We know. He pays or he goes. " I gave the guy a few $. Meseros dragged him to the stage where he tipped the stripper and was let go. She was watching the ugly scene while stripping, never missed a beat.

Twice I saw guys got grabbed and dragged out by security for jacking off at the stage. One beefy guy put up a long struggle, banging around on the floor against 5-6 meseros, grunting, groaning but not verbally protesting. They were careful not inflicting injuries on him.

The 2 dealers were shot in front of hotel Edouardo the alley, not inside Chavelas. They ran into the bar for cover. The shooter shot a few more round, got the one in black Tshirt in the right butt and thigh. No guns were brought into Chavelas. The tall security guy was unarmed, probably ran inside the bar to hide himself or he could be shot too. What could he do without guns? They risk their lives working 10-hour shift for $15. I feel sorry for them, give them a few bucks when I get in.

Adelita and Valentina have armed security guys at their doors. That may deter any attempt of violence at their door steps. HK may want to have armed security to keep violence away.

[Jackie888]

I'm wondering how they got guns into the club through the security check?

HK management have assigned most of its security to walking around HK and work with the meseros to force customers to either buy a drink or vacate a seat even if a customer sits at a bar. So HK have assigned HK security the task of selling drinks through a meseros. In the mean time, a single HK security guy handles the security at the metal detector, and no one to supervise to him ensure that a perp is not bribing the HK security guy with $5.

This is not a theory. I was asked by HK security to buy a drink while sitting at a bar after her received a wink from a mesero. Yes, a fucking actual wink. It was surreal. And yes, I have brought contraband into HK even AFTER the shooting in Las Chevelas HK by bypassing a single guy working security. No, I didn't even use bribery. I just used some distraction.

The entire HK security set up is really a scam. It is not intended to actually work and stop anyone intending to bring a pistol in. It is more of a "show" to help mongers feel safer so that they can tell themselves that they are safer here than LOS Angeles, or Chicago or Houston, etc.

[BrotherMouzone]

The action in the TV Show made years ago centered around the "corners" where the dealers had the right to "grind" or sell from a boss in a fixed location and waited for buyers. If you want to understand the drug biz, watching a few seasons of "The Wire" should get you up to speed. . . The drug biz was fought over by different gangs in Baltimore and is fought over by different gangs in Tijuana. Same Biz though. . . The main difference is the Barkley gang controlled the local politicians but not the Baltimore police. Here it is the opposite.

Yep, my username was actually taken from one of the characters in The Wire, LOL. Fantastic show. Those dealers are little more than "pawns in the game" as the show would say. But it goes without saying. This isn't just a Baltimore or Tijuana thing. This is more or less how the drug game operates in pretty much all major urban areas worldwide.