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[Andalus Expat]

Thought this made interesting reading.

https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/d...stds-and-rapes

Can't imagine Spanish politicians would, though. Why try to understand something when your job depends on your not understanding?

[Andalus Expat]

Amigas de Silvia lists duplex and lesbico real as different services. What is the difference? Arent they both threesomes?

No. Very different. Duplex is the women being interactive with the client. Lesbico, interactive with each other & the client. The first, any two girls might offer. Now ask yourself how you feel about being sexually interactive with another bloke & there's your answer. Women feel the same.

In practice, of course, they'll be quite capable of offering the second whilst only doing the first. Not hard to fake. Unless the client has some actual experience of the real thing. Most guys haven't.

[Member #4769]

An update on the new law: https://www.europapress.es/epsocial/...3925.html?s=35.

[Fzzxx]

Amigas de Silvia lists duplex and lesbico real as different services. What is the difference? Arent they both threesomes?

[Mongerer88]

The fact that the Socialist Asshole is becoming increasingly unpopular, and the fact that abolition law went nowhere in parliament at the end of 2022, increases the chance that the limited anti-trafficking law passed in 2022 will be the end of the matter.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thousands...171313785.html

[Andalus Expat]

217 m over 4 years (50 m a year) to help the women economically if they abolish prostitution. Prostitution brings in 26 billion a year. So they have about 0. 2% to help pay their bills.

If they kept it legal and taxed it, the government would be bringing in billions a year.

Fucking morons.

"Over 90% of sex workers are victims of trafficking ".

And this from the article also, I find incredibly hard to believe. Are there any other stats on this. Apparently the femnazi's are using this statistic on why we need the law. Sounds way, way off.

It depends on your definition of trafficking. A taxi driver taking a girl across town to a client would be trafficking. It's trafficking if a girl currently working in Germany accepts an offer of a place in Spain. Presumably the 10% of girls aren't trafficked work at home & never go to the shops.

As for what the public might understand by trafficking. A girl brought to the country & made to work under duress. It's rarely an economic enterprise. There's the costs of providing her somewhere to work & ensuring that she does. And an unwilling girl is not going to provide a good service to the clients & make good money. And that has to compete with willing girls who want to work, provide good client services & look after there own needs. It's not going to work, is it? The whole rationale behind the theory of trafficking is that there's a shortage of girls to meet the demand for services. When in reality there's a vast surplus of girls would like to sell sexual services but an equally vast shortage of clients want to pay for them.

The London Metropolitan Police mounted a long & expensive operation looking for trafficked women. It didn't produce a single prosecution.

[Jon32]

The latest update I could find.

https://inspain.news/spain-invests-e...-prostitution/

217 m over 4 years (50 m a year) to help the women economically if they abolish prostitution. Prostitution brings in 26 billion a year. So they have about 0. 2% to help pay their bills.

If they kept it legal and taxed it, the government would be bringing in billions a year.

Fucking morons.

"Over 90% of sex workers are victims of trafficking ".

And this from the article also, I find incredibly hard to believe. Are there any other stats on this. Apparently the femnazi's are using this statistic on why we need the law. Sounds way, way off.

[BaltiX]

A number of policymakers and lobbyists seem to be too driven by ideology and / or morality these days in Western countries, especially in regards to sex work. I'm generalizing of course, but there seem to be pattern in past 10-20 years.

[Andalus Expat]

We have too many educated idiots in the world.

Hell, if they want to understand prostitution in Spain, buy the time of sex workers and talk to them, and read sexomercadobcn, spalumi, esaschicas, and ISG.

But no, it is the same reason that it now costs more in terms of time and money to do the study to build a bridge than to actually build it.

The money will go to people, primarily women, who studied psychology, and Women's Studies in school. They will be paid with these government funds and write a report.

Most of the people who have opinions on sex work know nothing about it (I'd include a lot of the people who write on these boards in that. Being a customer does not make you an expert) And nobody is going to try to understand something when their job depends on them not understanding it.

[BaltiX]

I would add that it's not just radical feminists who oppose prostitution. Religious groups, SJWs, and anti-trafficking organizations want to abolish prostitution. And of course there are politicians who share that view like that Carmen lady. I don't know if it's true or not, but I read on local Barcelona forum that a high ranking member of PSC, which is regional Catalonia branch of the PSOE, is the one who came up with the idea of abolishing prostitution as part of their agenda.

[Mongerer88]

Somebody is giving radical feminists lot of money to influence national politics.

We have too many educated idiots in the world.

Hell, if they want to understand prostitution in Spain, buy the time of sex workers and talk to them, and read sexomercadobcn, spalumi, esaschicas, and ISG.

But no, it is the same reason that it now costs more in terms of time and money to do the study to build a bridge than to actually build it.

The money will go to people, primarily women, who studied psychology, and Women's Studies in school. They will be paid with these government funds and write a report.

[BaltiX]

I think we have to consider why this legislation's come about. It hasn't come out of nowhere. It's the result of pressure from a particular stripe of militant feminists who think men are the cause of all the problems in the world & no woman could possibly want to fuck them for money. Even if they think they do.

Well they've got an advertising ban, which is the immediately visible face of the industry, will they stop at that? Going on past performance, unlikely. They're not the sort of people are willing to compromise. Get yourselves ready for round two. It won't be over until the fat lady sings.

Somebody is giving radical feminists lot of money to influence national politics.

[The Cane]

Get yourselves ready for round two. It won't be over until the fat lady sings.

Because then we will have to fuck her versus our favorite tutes. I'd rather yank off!

[Mongerer88]

I think we have to consider why this legislation's come about. It hasn't come out of nowhere. It's the result of pressure from a particular stripe of militant feminists who think men are the cause of all the problems in the world & no woman could possibly want to fuck them for money. Even if they think they do.

Well they've got an advertising ban, which is the immediately visible face of the industry, will they stop at that? Going on past performance, unlikely. They're not the sort of people are willing to compromise. Get yourselves ready for round two. It won't be over until the fat lady sings.

The latest update I could find.

https://inspain.news/spain-invests-e...-prostitution/

[Andalus Expat]

In the USA, most of the foreign host countries for independent escort ads and review / discussion boards supposedly make it more difficult for law enforcement to obtain evidence.

It isn't universal. There are still escort websites hosted in the USA Offering time and companionship with relatively explicit language. Usually the lady simply lists activities she enjoys in private life, such as BBBJ.

Blocking a site throughout a nation is something you see in the Muslim World where the government controls all of the filtering. I am not sure that is the case in Spain.

I think we have to consider why this legislation's come about. It hasn't come out of nowhere. It's the result of pressure from a particular stripe of militant feminists who think men are the cause of all the problems in the world & no woman could possibly want to fuck them for money. Even if they think they do.

Well they've got an advertising ban, which is the immediately visible face of the industry, will they stop at that? Going on past performance, unlikely. They're not the sort of people are willing to compromise. Get yourselves ready for round two. It won't be over until the fat lady sings.