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12-02-22 13:30 #4558
Posts: 2987I certainly do think Soraia's new review with a zero was a clear mistake, because the guy had a reasonably good time. But I read the story of a review and click to see who else the guy has reviewed to learn the value of the review in terms of whether we like the same things. Soraia is hard to evaluate because of her inconsistency. Sometimes she delivers a great session, and most often she doesn't.
Margarida on the other hand is consistent and she has a niche customer base. She just got an 8 out of 10 review on the local board and the details of the review showed her usual lackluster performance. The reviewer said she had an angelic face and a smoking young firm body. He came once in the session and had a great time. I am glad he got what he wanted. He might, or might not, have been as happy if he picked a mid-30's lady with a less perfect face and body who really knows how to fuck.
There is sort of the John variant of the famous Hot / Crazy Chick Matrix. Older ladies and / or less facially attractive women often learn how to fuck better, and are more adventurous in terms of alternative sexual activities, than the youngest, hottest girls. I suppose the late bloomers are the best bet in that they become really hot after they learn how to fuck.
But many of the youngest, hottest women who are great fucks when they are 18-21 had a lot of chaos in their lives. So in that respect, Margarida may be just where she should be in terms of development as a person. She is passive and has probably been pursued by guys her whole life and never had to worry too much about working to please any of them. If a guy her age isn't happy with her, she can pick the next one in line. In other words, no chaos in her life, and she is likely quite normal for a beautiful girl her age. She seems to have no trouble getting enough customers who want what she currently has to offer. Without reviews, we wouldn't know what it is she has to offer.
I met one astonishingly beautiful escort who really knew how to fuck when I first met her when she was in her late teens, but god that chick had chaos. Recreational drug use, a new boyfriend or girlfriend in her life every few months (and they all were chaotic people, some of whom stole from her). She had a very high IQ, but was kicked out of a Catholic High School. She joked that all the spankings she got there helped her in escorting when she got customers with a spanking fetish. She dropped off the face of the earth and I hope she is okay.
But I always think of her when guys complain about the youngest escorts not knowing how to fuck. Sometimes that just means they had less chaos in their lives and didn't start doing much with sex until later. We have to keep in mind that one guy's starfish is another guy's dreamy little angel and is exactly what he is looking for. And for the guy's looking for more involvement and action, we just have to see if she is ever able to add that to the repertoire.
Originally Posted by ExExpatriate [View Original Post]
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12-02-22 09:33 #4557
Posts: 26Scene in Lisbon
Dear Mongerer88.
I'm not sure that things always evolve in the way we wish. I was in Lisbon regularly in the past 30 years.
Lisbon in 1994 was the 'paradise of sex'. There were no agencies, no internet, and all ads were in local newspapers.
Most of the girls worked at home alone or with a friend or in private apartments with 5 or 6 girls.
The surprising fact was that there were hundreds of advertisements and all the girls, or almost all, were very young and beautiful. Escort girl situation in Lisbon was, at the time, far better than Barcelona, Budapest or Prague, cities I visited in the same period. Lisbon situation of today's is not comparable at all in terms of price or quality with that of 25-30 years ago. Let's hope it doesn't get any worse. The same comments can, in general, be applied to the city, that in this period was more authentic and less touristic of today. A wonderful city also if more poor of the Lisbon of 2022.
Originally Posted by Mongerer88 [View Original Post]
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12-02-22 00:16 #4556
Posts: 369Yes, exactly. What I am introducing to the conversation is the idea of the outlier and context. The recent bad review might indicate a change in the co circumstances of a provider, a bad night or that the person making the review is unrealistic, an assh*LE or a moron.
To circle around to something, Soraia got that one conflicted review on the local board. The guy didn't add up his costs correctly as an objective error. He gave her a zero (again, wow) while writing a review totally in keeping with everything we know about her -- and normally, that would mean 7.
I appreciate all of the feedback, but never lose sight of the fact that some of these people show us they can't even add.
As for younger ladies, yes, there is a dearth of them right now. Broadly speaking, Lisbon has as deep a roster as it has ever had in the certified ad site era. The thing is a median lady in Lisbon is Brazilian and in their 30s. There are more of that median, and less of younger and/or local. I reckon the latter are playing OF or SA.
Originally Posted by Mongerer88 [View Original Post]
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12-01-22 22:41 #4555
Posts: 113Originally Posted by Mongerer88 [View Original Post]
Many TS's do look very feminine and it's extremely difficult to tell post-op.
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12-01-22 19:35 #4554
Posts: 2987Originally Posted by Harry1217 [View Original Post]
Any name similarity to the TS escort advertising elsewhere is just a coincidence.
Debora has a great profile and offerings. Hopefully there will be reviews soon.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/
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12-01-22 14:09 #4553
Posts: 2987Originally Posted by ExExpatriate [View Original Post]
And I then feel obligated to mention when a new lady who started off getting pretty good reviews gets some subsequent reviews in the opposite direction.
I hope that Lisbon isn't the canary in the coal mine, but a stunningly disproportionate percentage of the most recommended ladies are in their 30's and 40's. The big problem with that is when you roll the clock forward 5 and 10 years from now. I am not sure if the youngest ladies are working the Sugar system, or if changes to the economy, social structures, and legal changes are driving this phenomenon worldwide. It simply concerns me.
In general, the youngest ladies feel most comfortable with the agency system that gives them administrative support. It is not possible in Lisbon to do what Barcelona has had some success with in giving them an incall environment that is a place of their own with almost all of their co-workers being their own age like Vecinitas and teensbcn does.
So the stars of tomorrow (and hopefully today) will likely come up through EP, and I wanted to note that EP just dropped some stunning new ads for ladies they say are 18-22. Now how truthful they are being about ages is always an issue. But newbies Irina, Betinha, and Nicole in particular have pictures and profiles every bit as appealing as Margarida and Soraia, who have had plenty of reviews giving them the opportunity to show they are as customer-service oriented as a star like Maria Conceiçăo, but Margarida and Soraia are simply YMMV ladies. I just wanted to say that, in addition to mentioning that EP seems to have a promising new "Start Group".
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12-01-22 02:10 #4552
Posts: 113Originally Posted by ExExpatriate [View Original Post]
Also, there is more than one comment stating that her body is very average and that is certainly what I found. Her "willingness" is also in question in more than one review including mine.
Regarding Flora Neves or any other lady, all we can go on is the reviews currently there. The fact that a lady used to have positive reports doesn't mean we ignore the negative reports coming through now. Whether it's burn out or whatever, a poor service is a poor service.
Originally Posted by Mongerer88 [View Original Post]
That's a good list of potential alternatives that you have referenced. Of course, there are plenty more on sites like Apartadox. It's nice to only see ladies with reviews, but sometimes we need to TOFTT!
I would highlight one thing about Debora Dias who has very recently appeared on the EP site; there is a TS called Debora Dias on several other Lisbon escort sites. The lady has features similar to the EP Debora, albeit a bigger lady and not as attractive in my opinion. Perhaps it is the same Debora, she has lost weight now and the EP pictures are heavily airbrushed?
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12-01-22 00:47 #4551
Posts: 369I never really understood where the positive conception of Margarida Vaz came from (except sources I don't look at). From what I could see, she was painted as 20 at most, gorgeous, but otherwise unengaged and perhaps a time-waster.
As I wrote, I think Soraia is enough of a known quantity that I wouldn't discount her on the basis of one bad review. Not everybody is reliable, treats the ladies well or tells the truth with these things. The consistent story for her is that she is kind of a butterface (great natural body, nothing special in the face), and very willing but wholly passive in bed. For some guys, that might be a good call. Others, not so much. I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are. Two? Maybe three tops?
To make a point, reports on Flora Neves are very, very similar in nature to where Soraia was several months ago. What to make of that, eh?
On the other hand, it is very possible that bad report was accurate and Soraia has burned out. We just don't know. If it were me, yeah, I'd approach with a little more caution if I were only able to make one or two appointments.
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11-30-22 00:23 #4550
Posts: 2987Originally Posted by Harry1217 [View Original Post]
One of the most intriguing thing about Soraia's initial favorable reviews was that she accepts spankings and likes anal sex. While some of her later reviews confirmed that, others have indicated that such activities were flatly refused. That is understandable, but she doesn't seem to try to enthusiastically offer other services in that situation. While she doesn't have reports of leaving early like Margarida does, it just isn't that difficult for an escort to turn her damn cell phone off during a session, and to be ready to start the action within 5-10 minutes of arriving. The best reviewed EP ladies do those things.
In terms of making anal available and accepting spankings, there are solid reviews of youngster Marcela Moniz doing both while delivering a very solid session.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/marcela-moniz/
And what's more, EP has just added a whole bunch of advertised 18-22 year olds to the roster. None of them have received reviews yet, but hopefully there will be some stars with good attitudes who value their customers.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/betinha-lacerda/
https://escortprivada.com/escort/irina-melo/
https://escortprivada.com/escort/nicole-sousa/
https://escortprivada.com/escort/ana-lucia/
https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/
https://escortprivada.com/escort/sofia-simoes/
https://escortprivada.com/escort/samanta-lima/
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11-29-22 05:56 #4549
Posts: 2Thank you!
Thanks much Mongerer88 for your valuable information. Also, thanks to other members. I will try to provide some feedback if I am able to book some ladies.
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11-28-22 13:21 #4548
Posts: 2987Originally Posted by Avi1132 [View Original Post]
https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...a-Sampaio-5090
Here is one if her translated reviews from the local board.
"Name: Verónica Sampaio.
Nationality: Portuguese.
Face: Cute.
Body: BBW.
Ass: Good / Big.
Breasts: Good / Big.
Con*: smooth and smelling.
Tattoos: yes.
Attitude: sassy GFE.
Apartment: Modern studio with excellent conditions. Bedroom suite.
Location: Apartment in front of the Twin Towers.
Parking: End of José Malhoa or Twin Towers underground park.
Values: 80€/ 30 min - 120€/60 min.
When reading the opening TD of the topic I realized that I had never posted my experience with to VS. I met her right away at the beginning of her activity, which happened in mid-2020.
I've already been with her twice, so I'll give you a global summary of both experiences.
Always easy contact via WApp. She doesn't have all the days available (or she didn't at the time) because of another professional activity.
Very friendly and always available to please.
She is pretty looking and very tall. True 1. 80 and a massive frame. A portent. Not that fat, saggy BBW. She is a big woman and anyone who visits her should be prepared for that.
My motivation was to be with someone different and to a good surprise she does just that. It's different from most GPS on the sites and that, in my opinion, is even a "plus" for it. And then she has excellent customer service: the.
Kisses long and hard. Oral without very good indeed. She loves to be sucked equally and if it's done right, she turns on the machine and is a big badass. I didn't do anal even though she says she does.
I recommend. Both times I left satisfied.
It would be better if it had a value of 100€, but it seems to follow the market trend of going up to 120 and 150 that you see around and that I think is incompatible for the times we live in.
Rating: 8 very good."
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11-27-22 17:28 #4547
Posts: 113I think there is a clear case of us all not being the same regarding our tastes.
I saw Soraia recently (I reviewed here here) and she is certainly not someone who I'd describe as pretty. Facially I found her unattractive. And I can see more than 1 review on the local board saying the same. Moreover her only nice feature is her breasts; the rest of her body is nothing to write home about. She wouldn't let me play with or suck her boobs much, stating sensitivity. Again this has been mentioned several times on the local board. Given both of those facts, and that her service is a bit passive (as you mention), I would advise people to seek out the many other favourably reviewed ladies. But I accept that tastes differ, so this may not be your view.
Originally Posted by ExExpatriate [View Original Post]
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11-27-22 17:08 #4546
Posts: 369Yes, I always put Isis on the happy ending only list. Her body to body technique is tops, and in my instance the happy ending was a TF, but she doesn't do FS or BJ. She was charging 130/ h just a few weeks ago.
So what I saw about Soraia on the local board recently was one review that was probably botched. The one guy gave her a zero (wow), but this was despite describing the encounter in terms that would normally get a 7. Those terms were exactly what I expect from Soraia: she is a pretty, young girl with a superb body who wants to please, but is otherwise passive. She can get very into being with you, but don't expect her to lead on anything. Anyway, the gap between the description and the rating, plus his clear bad math on what it cost makes me think he didn't mean to give her a zero and botched his form.
The other guy said she appeared a little drunk and resorted to time wasting tactics, like staying in the bathroom and messaging on her phone. That is a first for her. If I understood him correctly, he was so upset he gave her the boot without doing or paying. Normally guys who don't care for Soraia think her facial looks are a little too plain or don't care for her passivity.
So, it's possible she is burning out or that the one guy seriously turned her off somehow. The latter shouldn't matter to a professional, but a lot of EP ladies aren't that. I wouldn't discount her on the basis of one clear thumbs down, but if your time is short and you don't want to take chances. As Mongerer wrote, there are so many options.
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11-27-22 12:53 #4545
Posts: 113How much did you pay Bia? There has been some discussion here about her quoting different rates to different people. Her Apartadox listing is not showing now for some reason.
Originally Posted by BartBarelds [View Original Post]
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11-27-22 04:13 #4544
Posts: 2987My bad. I didn't read ExExpatriate's post closely enough regarding Isis.
https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa
I put her on the list of independents offering BBBJ and CFS, when she is in fact a highly regarded erotic massage lady who offers neither of those.
Glad the bullet was dodged.
When you do a Google search for Isis and somassagens and the name of the local board, it links to a provider offering BBBJTCIM and CFS who goes by a different name. I didn't click through to match the picture.
So Isis is merely a good recommendation for an erotic massage. But hell, so something can come from the crossed-link, the BBBJTC and CFS lady with an 8 and a 10 out of 10 on her local board reviews is said to work at a massage parlor under one name, and as an escort on Apartadox under a different name. Not as many reviews as the other recommended independents, but the two she has are very good.
https://www.permitase.pt/terapeuta/helena/
https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ttencourt-7129
My apologies.
Also worth noting that a new review on the local board said that Soraia Albuquerque of escortprivada played on her phone way to much during a session, so she keeps dropping down on the EP recommended list. The post was by a very well-respected reviewer. EP has added a lot of new ladies, so there are plenty of recommended and new ladies to try instead.
Originally Posted by BartBarelds [View Original Post]