American Politics

[ChuchoLoco]

Your response seems to be of a guy with a lack of simple math skills. I'll post the link, timeline and the very first debunked myth about it again, which you seem to have swallowed hook, line and sinker all along:

Interstate Highway System - The Myths.
Myth #1:
President Eisenhower conceived the Interstate System.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/interstatemyths.cfm

This time around I highlighted in Bold the dates of its conception and initial legislation, all of which pre-date Eisenhower's election, and the statement flat out debunking that often repeated myth about it being Eisenhower's idea, conception, lifelong dream, whim, whatever..

You can visit the same site and get a different spin on the history. If you visit the same site you listed but go a little further and look under featured for Ike's Interstate at 50 you will get a different spin.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/history.cfm but you need to type it.

This is the perfect example of why sources, in this case the same one, are worthless. You can look and find a source to back up whatever.

Funny about tee time. Definitely agree on that one.

P.S: I was a math wiz in my much younger days and math has nothing to do with this discussion. You took my original post the wrong way and started with the wise ass remarks and I followed with same. Enough said about everything.

Ps2: same hook, line and sinker that you swallowed.

[Spidy]

"Isn't the whole point of racism not looking at people as a group and to get to know them as individuals when determining their worth? Again, PVM, Tooms, and Spidy are the most prejudiced people there are against people who vote Republican. ... "

Elvis, If your going to make up false claims and project any such baises, bigotry, prejudices, hate speech, name calling, slurs and slander on other BMs, it would behoove you to also provide
examples/proof of said scurrilous infractions, from the accused BMs.

But no doubt and true to form, much like your QAnon\Repub election denying brethren, who continually make up false claims about election fraud by the Dems, without proof and substantiated evidential facts, you only serve to incriminate yourself of the very thing you are accusing other of being.

Just for the Record:
For the record, when you say "...there are against people who vote Republican.", it couldn't be further from the truth. Unlike the Repubs, who insidiously and maniacally plot to subvert, suppress and deny Americans the right to vote, I love Americans who get out and vote, period.

What now? You lost me on so many levels with, "Again, PVM, Tooms, and Spidy are the most prejudiced people...". Really? Compared to whom? How would you know? Is Tiny 12, really supposed to believe that?

Just because we (Dems) provide opposing arguments, counterpoints and disagree with (what I often consider, IMHO) political Repub rhetoric or right-wing dogma, you call us "the most prejudiced
people" and "there are against people who vote Republican."Really!? Is that really what you think?

Just to be clear:
TO BE CLEAR, I don't care (or give a flying f#cK,), if you vote for the Dems, the Repubs, or for the Independents. I care about the ease of access, available, seamless and uncomplicated voting; and of course, the right for ALL eligible Americans to VOTE! PERIOD!!!

TO BE CLEAR, I'm HERE to argue the governing politics and policies of Dems and Repub political parties, or politics from the World at large, as it my pertain to the US. And of course those politicians, placed in office to "dutifully", "responsibly" and with earnest "accountability", deemed to carry out and serve the will of their respective constituencies.

TO BE CLEAR, I'm mostly "against" the boneheaded, knucklehead, wrongheaded, misguided, bias, unfair, unjust, discriminatory and partisan policies and laws that go against rights, wishes of the majority of Americans, be it Dems or Repubs. It just so happens, Repubs fall into this category more often than not.

TO BE CLEAR, while I suspect YOU, Elvis, may take the discussion here personally, I DO NOT! ...IT'S NOT PERSONAL for me! (Truth be told, it actually been fun, time permitted!)

TO BE CLEAR, you continue to be you. I wouldn't have it any other way. Continue to call me names, if that makes you sleep better at nights, as I'm a big-boy and can take it (figuratively speaking). But don't project your biases, bigotry or prejudices on me, without providing examples of me committing said infractions.

TO BE CLEAR, (although you and Tiny 12 may think otherwise), it's not a "Dems good" and "Repubs bad" thing either. I just happen to think and believe, by and large, Dems do a way better job in office, servicing the needs of most Americans, than when Repubs are in office. Heck, if Repubs made better polices and stood for more just & equal rights and laws for Americans, I'd vote Red.

TO BE CLEAR, (for Tiny 12 and other BMs reading this), Elvis, I know you posted/responded to Tiny 12, but I just wanted to MAKE IT CLEAR, I am not attacking Tiny 12. Tiny 12 has always been respectful in his posts (and has made his arguments, without the "D-bag" type name calling and childish antics, towards other BMs) and has always pretty much, stuck to providing good counterpoints to the topics of political discussion.

Clear enough?

[EihTooms]

Yeah, but it is kind of fun to predict the moronic responses. You can goad PVM into the racist crap pretty easily. Of course, he ignores racism against whites and in fact goes along with it which means he is racist. https://reason.com/2021/03/29/basic-...is-that-legal/.

Isn't the whole point of racism not looking at people as a group and to get to know them as individuals when determining their worth? Again, PVM, Tooms, and Spidy are the most prejudiced people there are against people who vote Republican.

Then you have these idiots and their claims Republicans are for tax cuts for the rich. Here is what a Democratic senator made sure was put into law https://www.businessinsider.com/tax-...sinema-2022-8:.

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona on Thursday agreed to back the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, meaning the bill had gained support from all 50 Democrats in the US Senate.

Her cooperation came with the removal of a carried-interest tax provision, a small portion of the bill that targeted a tax break for the wealthy.

It represents a momentary win for some of the richest Americans. The provision had targeted a loophole that can be used to reduce taxes for hedge fund managers and other people who manage money for a living. When fund managers make money for their clients through their investments, they receive a cut of those profits. They're allowed to classify that payment as capital gains, which are subject to lower tax rates than those for salary paychecks and bonuses. With the removal of the provision, fund managers have avoided restrictions that would've made it harder for them to keep to keep paying the same low tax rates on their income.

You can predict the responses: Republicans are even worse, they are more racist ETC but once again, neither of these stories is even about Republicans.

And you know the stuff about Dems and the rich? Here are where some of the richest companies in the world give their money party wise: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/most...donations.html.

The funny part is when you watch the videos of these tech employees at "work". This is a good one: https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/sta...95267552960512.

So Musk fires 85% of the people at Twitter, and the viewership goes up, and I see nothing change on the site. And of course, so much of that Covid stimulus money found its way into tech.

And if you follow the Twitter files released by the most independent journalists there are, you will see the FBI actively censoring Republican accounts. So when Democrats talk about freedom of speech, that means they should be able to speak freely but it is okay if everyone else is censored. It is just like Democrats being unable to be racists when they are putting forth racist policies. This is 1984 doublespeak in action.

The funny part though is when it comes to math. Numbers do not care about politics and the funny part is the amount of money in the system is being vacuumed out. The idea you can just print money and not have inflation has been shown to be trashed. It was amazing that this was even a thing.

Tooms has already blamed Republicans of course. Trump and Biden's (but it is really Trump's per Tooms) Powell are responsible for his down year, but he is not seen anything yet. So much of that money in crypto, real estate, and the stock market has gone poof. And the rest of the world has been hit not just by horrible inflation but the decreased purchasing power of the dollar. How do you make record profits when so much money has been taken out of the system?

I was watching these guys talking inflation and predicted that inflation could be negative at the end of the year, and I laughed and thought "Yeah, it could be. " Of course, that would be after a recession that shattered demand.

The funny thing this year has been the market reacting like Dems to the Fed. It is like the Fed is saying "No, we are not giving you anymore handouts. " Then there is a smidgen of data suggesting the Fed will quit raising rates (I. E. Handing the market cheap money) and the market rallies and says, "We know you like us Jay Powell and will give us more money" and he has a press conference and says "No we are not" and then the market ignores him and says, "Well, Powell really did not mean it. ".

It is like thanking Senator Sinema for being a good Democrat (I know she is an independent now as if that matters) and taxing the rich. Sinema and Powell are really on our side, dontchaknow.

Lately then I have just been buying and selling SQQQ with these moves. I buy it in the low to mid 40's and sell half in the high 50's and low 60's. The Nasdaq is down 30% and is still too expensive. Taking the other side of the bets of the crazy Democratic douches has been very profitable. I do not recall ever losing when I bet against insane.

So it is easy to be a Democratic douche when the music is playing and wine is flowing, but when it stops, that is when there will be change, and it has paid well to be a Democratic douche here lately.

For example, that crazy censorship witch at Twitter was getting $17 million a year, but she is out of work now.

Krysten Sinema is not a Democrat. As well as a couple of other Senators who voted for the final bill.

And how does the fact that ALL of the other 50 Senators did absolutely nothing for their taxpayer-funded paycheck and did not support the tax on the wealthy either give them a pass on what was in the bill? Since when?

Oh, by the way, Democratic voters drive and produce the vast majority of the USA economy, accounting for 70% of the country's entire GDP by 2020.

And that is up from 64% when Hillary won the most votes in 2016:

Democratic counties represent 70% of U.S. GDP, 2020 election shows

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/10/elec...s-economy.html

KEY POINTS
The 2020 elections, chaotic and marked by races too close to call, have nonetheless reaffirmed that, at least in Washington, the two parties now speak for markedly different segments of the U.S. economy.

President Donald Trump carried 2,497 counties across the country that together generate 29% of the American economy, according to a new study by the Brookings Institution.

President-elect Joe Biden won 477 counties that together generate 70% of U.S. GDP.

These differences, if they persist or worsen, could result in partisan gridlock for years to come, a researcher wrote.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-a...onomic-divide/

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/lat...TTc2xxNr7NITHY

So whatever Repubs, Pro Repub Bothsiders, Pro Repub Neithersiders or whatever think they know about a complex national economy like that of the USA is practically irrelevant.

[JustTK]

Superb presentation on economic decline of USA, with parallels to 20th century Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS-eCnCneyA

[Elvis 2008]

Hey Elvis, they can't help themselves. Don't blame them, blame the politicians and the main stream media. The posters here are the victims, not the perpetrators. They've hitched themselves to the big blue wagon, and even if the Progressives and Joe Biden steer it through the gates of hell, they're going to hang on for the ride.

Yeah, but it is kind of fun to predict the moronic responses. You can goad PVM into the racist crap pretty easily. Of course, he ignores racism against whites and in fact goes along with it which means he is racist. https://reason.com/2021/03/29/basic-...is-that-legal/.

Isn't the whole point of racism not looking at people as a group and to get to know them as individuals when determining their worth? Again, PVM, Tooms, and Spidy are the most prejudiced people there are against people who vote Republican.

Then you have these idiots and their claims Republicans are for tax cuts for the rich. Here is what a Democratic senator made sure was put into law https://www.businessinsider.com/tax-...sinema-2022-8:.

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona on Thursday agreed to back the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, meaning the bill had gained support from all 50 Democrats in the US Senate.

Her cooperation came with the removal of a carried-interest tax provision, a small portion of the bill that targeted a tax break for the wealthy.

It represents a momentary win for some of the richest Americans. The provision had targeted a loophole that can be used to reduce taxes for hedge fund managers and other people who manage money for a living. When fund managers make money for their clients through their investments, they receive a cut of those profits. They're allowed to classify that payment as capital gains, which are subject to lower tax rates than those for salary paychecks and bonuses. With the removal of the provision, fund managers have avoided restrictions that would've made it harder for them to keep to keep paying the same low tax rates on their income.

You can predict the responses: Republicans are even worse, they are more racist ETC but once again, neither of these stories is even about Republicans.

And you know the stuff about Dems and the rich? Here are where some of the richest companies in the world give their money party wise: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/most...donations.html.

The funny part is when you watch the videos of these tech employees at "work". This is a good one: https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/sta...95267552960512.

So Musk fires 85% of the people at Twitter, and the viewership goes up, and I see nothing change on the site. And of course, so much of that Covid stimulus money found its way into tech.

And if you follow the Twitter files released by the most independent journalists there are, you will see the FBI actively censoring Republican accounts. So when Democrats talk about freedom of speech, that means they should be able to speak freely but it is okay if everyone else is censored. It is just like Democrats being unable to be racists when they are putting forth racist policies. This is 1984 doublespeak in action.

The funny part though is when it comes to math. Numbers do not care about politics and the funny part is the amount of money in the system is being vacuumed out. The idea you can just print money and not have inflation has been shown to be trashed. It was amazing that this was even a thing.

Tooms has already blamed Republicans of course. Trump and Biden's (but it is really Trump's per Tooms) Powell are responsible for his down year, but he is not seen anything yet. So much of that money in crypto, real estate, and the stock market has gone poof. And the rest of the world has been hit not just by horrible inflation but the decreased purchasing power of the dollar. How do you make record profits when so much money has been taken out of the system?

I was watching these guys talking inflation and predicted that inflation could be negative at the end of the year, and I laughed and thought "Yeah, it could be. " Of course, that would be after a recession that shattered demand.

The funny thing this year has been the market reacting like Dems to the Fed. It is like the Fed is saying "No, we are not giving you anymore handouts. " Then there is a smidgen of data suggesting the Fed will quit raising rates (I. E. Handing the market cheap money) and the market rallies and says, "We know you like us Jay Powell and will give us more money" and he has a press conference and says "No we are not" and then the market ignores him and says, "Well, Powell really did not mean it. ".

It is like thanking Senator Sinema for being a good Democrat (I know she is an independent now as if that matters) and taxing the rich. Sinema and Powell are really on our side, dontchaknow.

Lately then I have just been buying and selling SQQQ with these moves. I buy it in the low to mid 40's and sell half in the high 50's and low 60's. The Nasdaq is down 30% and is still too expensive. Taking the other side of the bets of the crazy Democratic douches has been very profitable. I do not recall ever losing when I bet against insane.

So it is easy to be a Democratic douche when the music is playing and wine is flowing, but when it stops, that is when there will be change, and it has paid well to be a Democratic douche here lately.

For example, that crazy censorship witch at Twitter was getting $17 million a year, but she is out of work now.

[Tiny 12]

Dear Elvis,

I am currently covered up with work, so have not had an opportunity to comment on your excellent posts. However I shall return. And in the meantime it's been insightful to observe from afar how our Democrat friends treat a token Republican or bothsider or neithersider or whatever it is that they think we are. In their minds they're the sharks, and you're the baby seal. But the reality is that you're the Independent Right of Center Blue Whale, and they are mere minnows, the proverbial gnats on an elephants ass. Keep up the good work.

Your friend,

Tiny.

[Spidy]

Hey Elvis, they can't help themselves. Don't blame them, blame the politicians and the main stream media. The posters here are the victims, not the perpetrators. They've hitched themselves to the big blue wagon, and even if the Progressives and Joe Biden steer it through the gates of hell, they're going to hang on for the ride. ...

Yeah, thanks but no thanks! I'm of free mind and body, enough to think and/or apologize for myself when appropriately necessary.

Tiny 12, you sound like the Fox News and QAnon/Repub treasonous insurrection apologists for the crimes of the Jan 6th rioters (or are they now victims? Or is it innocent bystanders, just out for a stroll?). You should perhaps, stick to apologizing for your QAnon/Repub/MAGA cult being brainwashed and the faithless grifted donor suckers by Donnie J. Dummkopf and the black-hole that is the right-wing media.

I think, your apologies would be better served addressing the failures and lunacy of your QAnon/Repub/MAGA brethren. Perhaps they'll take solace in your (albeit no doubt) "well meaning" apologies?

BTW, Christmas is coming, don't forget your, NFT Donnie J. Dummkopf trading cards, at www.collectTrumpCards.com, according to Donnie J. Dummkopf, they make great Christmas gifts. Hey, perhaps you and Elvis could trade NFT DJD cards...kkkk!

No thanks and No apologies necessary, your welcome, merry Christmas!!!

[EihTooms]

Sigh, Eisenhower was president when the highway bill was passed, but it was not passed when Republicans had a majority. It was only when Dems won part of Congress, the bill was passed into law.

The part with Eisenhower you douches do not get is that the law that put the top tax rate at 91% was put in by Eisenhower and a totally Republican controlled Congress which blows your stupid the Republicans-do-not-tax-the rich line out of the water.

A better question is: who cares? The only reason this is even an issue is you douches claim all good laws were Democrat laws and all bad ones were Republican. Oh I am sorry. That was Tooms. With you, it was 80-20 Dems to Republicans, so you are only 80% douche PVM. Congratulations.

Yeah, he did. He said Democratic energy policies are all the same.

Yes, and it was an American breakthrough not a Democratic one and no, nothing will come of this in 10 years. That is just dumb Democratic bragging at work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjybBP2ohbo.



And only two clueless Democratic douches would think we are still dependent on foreign oil and gas producers. Well, at least, we were not dependent on them when Trump was president.

The top marginal tax rate was higher in 1944,1945, 1951,1952 and 1953 than the 91% Eisenhower reduced it to left it throughout his presidency while he was busy promoting and committing us by word, deed and treaty to an increasing military involvement in Vietnam and playing golf.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/stat...come-tax-rates

It wasn't Eisenhower's top marginal tax rate that produced his horrific jobs creating record and the seeming never ending series of Recessions all through his Happy Days. It was his inattention to serious poverty conditions in rural America and among growing minority demographics.

JFK and LBJ didn't ignore it. Their tax codes gave huge tax breaks, deductions and exemptions to the middle and lower income margins that was the stuff of nightmares for Repub Supply-Siders.

That's why Eisenhower's economic and jobs creation record was crap and JFK / LBJ's was historically positive.

Repubs don't just apply one method to produce their crap results. They are always trying new and unprecedented ones as well.

[EihTooms]

In 1944, The Federal-Aid Highway Act was approved. This Act provided $225 million a year for new highways and another $150 million a year for secondary / feeder roads. This money was never actually put into road construction, it was placed into accounts of the US Treasury for Interstate Highways. The money was not spent until passage of The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956.

True but you didn't keep reading.

Your response seems to be of a guy with little man's complex.

Major Funding Work Begins:

In 1953, Dwight Eisenhower, the LT. Col. Observer on the 1919 First Transcontinental Motor Convoy was President of the United States of America and by this time his vision was a network of new highways crossing America north to south and east to west. He would later persuade Congress to enact the 1956 Federal-Aid Highway Act creating what we now call the Interstate Highway System. The First Transcontinental Motor Convoy and his years in Germany and seeing the Autobahns during World War II gave him the opportunity to see what needed to be done in the US.

Your response seems to be of a guy with a lack of simple math skills. I'll post the link, timeline and the very first debunked myth about it again, which you seem to have swallowed hook, line and sinker all along:

Interstate Highway System - The Myths.
Myth #1:
President Eisenhower conceived the Interstate System.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/interstatemyths.cfm

The Interstate System was first described in a Bureau of Public Roads report to Congress, Toll Roads and Free Roads, in 1939. It was authorized for designation by the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1944, with the initial designations in 1947 and completed in 1955 under the 40,000-mile limitation imposed by the 1944 Act. President Eisenhower didnt conceive the Interstate System, but his support led to enactment of the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, which established the program for funding and building it.

This time around I highlighted in Bold the dates of its conception and initial legislation, all of which pre-date Eisenhower's election, and the statement flat out debunking that often repeated myth about it being Eisenhower's idea, conception, lifelong dream, whim, whatever.

I can't refute the notion that in 1944 Eisenhower "had a vision" about it or that in 1953 and 1956 he said something like, "Sure, go ahead with the plan, I won't try to stop it. What time is our tee off tomorrow again"?

But by then he was several years late on the actual conception, plans, proposals and initial legislation for it. You know, the hard part.

[Spidy]

When you have inflation, the correct move is to cut back on spending not spend like a drunken sailor as Biden has been doing. Biden is so stupid he said government spending does not cause inflation while everyone he put on the federal reserve is doing all they can to cut spending / demand to tame inflation.

Biden is right once again!

When Obama took office (basically right after he won the election, as early bipartisan bailout measures were implemented), the US spent over trillions, in efforts to right the ship, USS Economy.

They literally spent like drunken sailors (and had to get drunk) in order to clean up and bail out, the banksters, the corporate welfare cronies and the elite rich, left behind by the Bush administration. Inflation (and interest rates for that matter) was at historic lows, while they spent like drunken sailors, during the next several years. In fact inflation (and interest rates) turned negative and the banksters were charging cash deposits, a "storage fee" (the nerve of the bastards).

Historical Inflation Rates: 1914-2022
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/

If you want a Biden compliment, take that. At least Biden put economic advisers in place smarter than his stupid ass.

Yeah, I know right, what a smart thing to do, much like every other "stupid ass" president before him, except of course for Donnie J. Dummkopf.

Oh no, Donnie J. Dummkopf, was so smart, he brought in his daughter and son-in-law, as advisors. And our "superhero", Donnie J. Dummkopf, was so smart, he didn't need advisors at all. And naturally, when he did have advisors, it was always better when they were dumber than him. That way his ego wouldn't suffer (although the country most certainly did) and he then could always pretend to be the "smartest person in the room".

Such hubris!!!

Elvis, anyways, in the Christmas spirit, just a yuletide reminder to get your "superhero", NFT Agent Orange trading cards, at www.collectTrumpCards.com, just $99, now, and just in time for Christmas...ho, ho, ho!

[ChuchoLoco]

Unless Ike was in Germany in 1938 or so, saw their system and miraculously became POTUS 15 years earlier than all the non fiction books say he did and got the idea of doing it and legislating for it in America, which didn't happen, then it was FDR and not Ike.

I just posted a link and quoted the timeline for the initial plans and legislation for it going back to 1939. Is that when Ike came up with the idea, took a meeting and convinced FDR he ought to include it in his New Deal plans? Really?

In 1944, The Federal-Aid Highway Act was approved. This Act provided $225 million a year for new highways and another $150 million a year for secondary / feeder roads. This money was never actually put into road construction, it was placed into accounts of the US Treasury for Interstate Highways. The money was not spent until passage of The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956.

True but you didn't keep reading.

Your response seems to be of a guy with little man's complex.

Major Funding Work Begins:

In 1953, Dwight Eisenhower, the LT. Col. Observer on the 1919 First Transcontinental Motor Convoy was President of the United States of America and by this time his vision was a network of new highways crossing America north to south and east to west. He would later persuade Congress to enact the 1956 Federal-Aid Highway Act creating what we now call the Interstate Highway System. The First Transcontinental Motor Convoy and his years in Germany and seeing the Autobahns during World War II gave him the opportunity to see what needed to be done in the US.

[Spidy]

LOL. Tell me how that changes anything. How many people have died due to the waste from nuclear fission?

Arhhh...what now? I NEVER mentioned nuclear fission. So what exactly are you saying?

Are you saying nuclear fusion is the same as nuclear fission and people are going to die from nuclear fusion waste?

Since you brought it up, please do tell us, how many people have died from nuclear fission? While you're at it, tell us how many people have died from fossil fuels/oil and gas production/pollutants?

Massive dependency huh? Yeesh.

OPEC ring a bell? Who sets world oil supply/production output quotas/levels again? Last I checked the US wasn't on this list.

[Spidy]

So to answer my question, you cannot make one post that is not Republicans bad, Democrats good. Got it. ...

Hell, you can stop posting because we all know what you are going to say anyway.

Too funny...kkkk! Says the guy who keeps, reading, responding and asking questions to my posts!

Yeah, the fusion break throughs were all Dems, and all the taxpayer money spent on fusion technology came from Democrats too right?

Is that what you think? I can see why you'd think that, especially when you hear and read about the tax grifting/evading cheats like Repub leader Donnie J. Dummkopf, on his taxes.

I would ask you about Jimmy Carter's energy policy in comparison to Ronald Reagan's but I already know your answer, so I won't bother.

By all means, ask away...remember there are no stupid questions.

Spidy, can you post anything outside of Dems good, Republicans bad?

The Dems "good", Repubs "bad" thing, you and Tiny 12, have conjured up in your minds, I'm pretty sure this has been explained to y'all several times before. Check back a few days ago to EihTooms' post or go checkout the beginning of October, 2022, should you care for a refresh.

BTW, can YOU post anything else outside of "Dem douches this", "Dem douches that" or "you douches, blah, blah, blah"? Ahhh....who the hell I'm kidding...just forget I asked! I forgot, you are the king of the "D-bag" word usage...carry on!

[PVMonger]

Those are the answers I got when I asked Spidy whose energy policies he liked better: Obama's or Biden's? You all went back to Democrat good, Republican bad when asked a question that had nothing to do with Republicans at all.

In fact, you can look at energy policy like someone asking what 2 + 2 is? Trump and Obama both answered 4, and Biden answered 5, and all you dummies can do is say Trump is the devil.

Of course, Tiny broke it down for you.

But you fools are too dumb to even see any difference between Democrats.

When it gets really funny is when you look at the past.

Yeah, let's go with the race one here.

What party did Lincoln belong to when he announced the emancipation proclamation?

Was it a Republican or Democratic president in office when the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments of the Constitution were made into law?

Was it a Republican or Democrat president who was in office when the civil rights act of 1957 was signed into law?

With the civil rights act of 1964, which party's representatives in Congress passed it with a higher percentage?

As for the debate on the civil rights bill in 1964, it was the Democrats who led the filibuster against it.

Senator Strom Thurmond, who was still a Democrat at the time: "This so-called Civil Rights Proposals, which the President has sent to Capitol Hill for enactment into law, are unconstitutional, unnecessary, unwise and extend beyond the realm of reason. This is the worst civil-rights package ever presented to the Congress and is reminiscent of the Reconstruction proposals and actions of the radical Republican Congress. "..

By the by, which political party did all of those racist "Southern Democrats" flock to? The Republicans. And which political party do those racists still belong to? The Republicans. Kind of blows up your narrative, doesn't it.

Several weeks ago, I was having a discussion with an acquaintance about his contention that Donnie the Dumbass wasn't racist. I said he was and brought up things like:

The 1972 Federal Lawsuit against trump that said, in part, "Two former Trump employees, a husband and wife who rented properties, were quoted in court documents as saying they were told that the company wanted to rent only to 'Jews and Executives' and 'discouraged rental to blacks.

In the 1980's, "Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump's Castle, accused another one of Trump's businesses of discrimination. "When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor," Brown said. "It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back. ".

The 1991 book about Donnie the Dumbass that said: "former Trump employee John O'Donnell alleged that Trump had described laziness as "a trait in blacks" and once told him, "I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day."

In 1992 "The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler's prejudices. "

The 1993 Congressional hearing on Native American casino operators where Donnie the Dumbass said: "Go up to Connecticut and you look at the Mashantucket Pequots. They don't look like Indians to me".

The 2000 attack on the Mohawk casino operation in which Donnie the Dumbass said: "Ask Governor George Pataki why? Why would Governor George Pataki give millions of dollars to a group accused of drug smuggling, money laundering, trafficking in illegal immigrants and violence?

You probably don't see where I'm going with this but because you brought up ancient history in your response and claim that just because it is old doesn't make it untrue, neither can you claim that Donnie the Dumbass isn't racist because of stuff he did (or didn't do) prior to 2015.

But then, When Donnie the Dumbass was campaigning and was our so-called president* he said:

Trump launched his campaign in 2015 by calling Mexican immigrants "rapists" who are "bringing crime" and "bringing drugs" to the US. His campaign was largely built on building a wall to keep these immigrants out of the US.

As a candidate in 2015, Trump called for a ban on all Muslims coming into the US. His administration eventually implemented a significantly watered-down version of the policy.

When asked at a 2016 Republican debate whether all 1. 6 billion Muslims hate the US, Trump said, "I mean a lot of them. I mean a lot of them."

He argued in 2016 that Judge Gonzalo Curiel — who was overseeing the Trump University lawsuit — should recuse himself from the case because of his Mexican heritage and membership in a Latino lawyers association. House Speaker Paul Ryan, who endorsed Trump, later called such comments "the textbook definition of a racist comment. "

Trump has been repeatedly slow to condemn white supremacists who endorse him, and he regularly retweeted messages from white supremacists and neo-Nazis during his presidential campaign.

He tweeted and later deleted an image that showed Hillary Clinton in front of a pile of money and by a Jewish Star of David that said, "Most Corrupt Candidate Ever!" The tweet had some very obvious anti-Semitic imagery, but Trump insisted that the star was a sheriff's badge, and said his campaign shouldn't have deleted it.

Trump has repeatedly referred to Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) as "Pocahontas," using her controversial — and later walked-back — claims to Native American heritage as a punchline.

At the 2016 Republican convention, Trump officially seized the mantle of the "law and order" candidate — an obvious dog whistle playing to white fears of Black crime, even though crime in the US is historically low. His speeches, comments, and executive actions after he took office have continued this line of messaging.

In a pitch to Black voters in 2016, Trump said, "You're living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?

Trump stereotyped a Black reporter at a press conference in February 2017. When April Ryan asked him if he plans to meet and work with the Congressional Black Caucus, he repeatedly asked her to set up the meeting — even as she insisted that she's "just a reporter."

In the week after white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, Trump repeatedly said that "many sides" and "both sides" were to blame for the violence and chaos that ensued — suggesting that the white supremacist protesters were morally equivalent to counterprotesters who stood against racism. He also said that there were "some very fine people" among the white supremacists. All of this seemed like a dog whistle to white supremacists — and many of them took it as one, with white nationalist Richard Spencer praising Trump for "defending the truth."

Throughout 2017, Trump repeatedly attacked NFL players who, by kneeling or otherwise silently protesting during the national anthem, demonstrated against systemic racism in America.

Trump reportedly said in 2017 that people who came to the US from Haiti "all have AIDS," and he lamented that people who came to the US from Nigeria would never "go back to their huts" once they saw America. The White House denied that Trump ever made these comments.

Speaking about immigration in a bipartisan meeting in January 2018, Trump reportedly asked, in reference to Haiti and African countries, "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" he then reportedly suggested that the US should take more people from countries like Norway. The implication: Immigrants from predominantly white countries are good, while immigrants from predominantly Black countries are bad.

Trump denied making the "shithole" comments, although some senators present at the meeting said they happened. The White House, meanwhile, suggested that the comments, like Trump's remarks about the NFL protests, will play well to his base. The only connection between Trump's remarks about the NFL protests and his "shithole" comments is race.

Trump mocked Elizabeth Warren's presidential campaign, again calling her "Pocahontas" in a 2019 tweet before adding, "See you on the campaign TRAIL, Liz!" The capitalized "TRAIL" is seemingly a reference to the Trail of Tears — a horrific act of ethnic cleansing in the 19th century in which Native Americans were forcibly relocated, causing thousands of deaths.

Trump tweeted later that year that several Black and brown members of Congress — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) — are "from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe" and that they should "go back" to those countries. It's a common racist trope to say that Black and brown people, particularly immigrants, should go back to their countries of origin. Three of the four members of Congress whom Trump targeted were born in the US.

Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the "Chinese virus" and "kung flu. " The World Health Organization advises against linking a virus to any particular region, since it can lead to stigma. Trump's adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously described the term "kung flu" as "highly offensive. " Meanwhile, Asian Americans have reported hateful incidents targeting them due to the spread of the coronavirus.

Trump suggested that Kamala Harris, who's Black and South Asian, "doesn't meet the requirements" to be former Vice President and Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden's running mate — yet another example of birtherism.

So yes, Donnie the Dumbass is racist (and misogynistic and xenophobic) and bringing up ancient history about Democrats is as useless as your claim that Democrats are racist because of their past or that Bill Clinton was misogynistic because he got a blowjob while in office.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history

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I guess we just read different books and articles. But Ike did get them started in 1956. Hard to believe a USA before the Highway System. I do remember the first ones in my area being built. Late 50's and 60's.

Unless Ike was in Germany in 1938 or so, saw their system and miraculously became POTUS 15 years earlier than all the non fiction books say he did and got the idea of doing it and legislating for it in America, which didn't happen, then it was FDR and not Ike.

I just posted a link and quoted the timeline for the initial plans and legislation for it going back to 1939. Is that when Ike came up with the idea, took a meeting and convinced FDR he ought to include it in his New Deal plans? Really?