Pattaya Reports

[Tom Thumbbs]

Every buddy's favorite topic pricing.

Name might be wrong JJ bar in Buakhao. Filipino cover band, very decent.

Not a Sex pick up place. More just drinking with a live band.

Kris Travels Livestream. Kris ask average looking staff how much for Dhortime? She say 4,000. Chat went Nuts, laughing hooting and hollering. No way in San Jose,. 1,500 more appropriate. 2,000 for her mates, one was quite attractive.

Let's give prop s to Mr E. They are asking but are they getting 4,000. I'm thinking no way in San colasitos.

[Tom Thumbbs]

Girls wanting to leave early. Most likely scenario is they never wanted to be with you from the get go. Money money money.

Wake up guys. We are not that Desireable. Haha.

Not Rocket Science.

[Mr Enternational]

And the beauty of it is none of those Steel Trap Plot Points are the girl's fault. She can not be blamed.

A buddy that has been going to Thailand since the 60's and has lived there permanently since the 80's told me that he was in a car accident with a lady in a Mercedes. It was obvious that it was her fault. But she explained to the policeman that it was clearly my buddy's fault because if he had not been in Thailand then the accident would not have happened.

[HorseTrader]

And the beauty of it is none of those Steel Trap Plot Points are the girl's fault. She can not be blamed. She can not be responsible for you paying a full LT amount but only getting a ST. That is a critical element in Thai culture. It is never their fault. That's why they can't just tell the truth.

I'll admit that I'm not a LT kind of punter, my only overnight visitors since 2020 have been girlfriends. I usually want P4P girls to shower and leave about 3 minutes after I go soft.

I ask without experience, if the LT girl wants to leave for unavoidable BS reasons, why not just say "Sure, you can come back in an hour and I'll pay you in the morning." Of course they won't want to come back, but it would be a good reason to give them a greatly reduced ST rate. You probably don't want them after they pull a stunt like that.

On a side note, many of my late night ST girls want to stay all night long. Perhaps it is my nice hotel room and buffet breakfast compared to whatever shithole they normally stay. Is that a common experience with other punters or is it because of my good looks and charm?

[Explorer8939]

Can you name the bars these ladies work at? Maybe it has a lot to do with the guy who takes them?

In over 7 years I have NEVER had a girl try to leave a LT session at 1 or 2 am and this includes Kinnaree girls that I take LT when the bar closes at 5 pm. I have had a Sensations gogo girl who I took at 8 pm ask me at 2 am while we were at Hollywood if I was doing ST or LT. Imagine if I would have said ST!

Below your posts are many other posts about ladies doing the Key Trick to squirm out of a LT at 1 am. You are very lucky that you haven't run into this scam.

If you are hit with the Key Trick, just explain that you will pay the lady after she returns from letting her roommate into their shared room.

[11Bravo]

I've never had any LT negotiated lady (bar girl nor freelancer) bail on me at 1 or 2 am. Payment comes afterwards, in the morning, when I've been in Thailand. One shouldnt even be doing an LT with a WG unless they already know and can trust the woman from previous STs.

LTs are a big risk with WGs you havent seen before for a ST. They might start eating all the stuff in your fridge, cooking up some food for themselves, staring on their phone and ignore you all night, mess with the thermostat, complain about the thermostat, use up all the bath towels in your bathroom, wet up the entire bathroom floor in your bathroom, claim theyre too tired for the morning session, some want to sleep all day past 2pm when you couldve been at the gym, had breakfast, or called up another girl.

For me, the woman has to be proven with ST before I even consider LT.

Myself, afternoon delights are ST; nights are, by definition, for LT, with the rare exception when she insists and I DO want to have her experience regardless. If she's worth pulling at night, then she's worth more than a couple of hours of entertainment. I know my limitations (that 2nd shot does take some time to chamber), and I'm too old to go out early morning and look for a double header. Maybe I'm an optimist and have faith, BUT I hedge the bet with a CLEAR time of departure AND pay AFTER BEFORE RTB with her.

As to all the other downsides you mention: visitors are welcome to what's in the fridge, I just might join them. If she starts cooking (bonus points), I just ask "for two please". First phone use gets a yellow card, 2nd gets a RED, with a "since you're so busy, here's your ST, goodbye" (I pay for undivided attention, I'm selfish that way). Towels, and bathroom floors dry. Besides, if I've DATY'd, what's the harm of sharing a towel? (DECADES of travel, I carry a "go to hell" hand towel, mainly to use when out hiking in a hot and humid climate, wrapped around my neck, but good for some of those places that don't have towels). For the too tired in morning, yes, I do pay LT, but remark on the missing menu item and mark her as a no repeat. Maybe things have changed, but repeat business used to be desired. Girls do share notes, and if you are around for any length of time, you will be known, as I've said, either as a player or a mark. It's not that I'm so much in control, I just don't get walked on either, and if she does walk, it's a ST salary.

Your probing and, for the fun of it perhaps, trying to find a way to solve that "lost key" problem is a great example of Thai girls' talent for conjuring up what I refer to as a "Steel Trap Plot Point", worthy of the best Hitchcock scenarios. Although I think it is usually a lost or only one security key card that is either too expensive to duplicate or the landlord only allows one per room, not just an ordinary key that can be duplicated for 30 baht.

There is no solution to her problem that wouldn't benefit her and penalize you if you were to have paid up the full agreed upon LT amount, right? LOL. You offer a logical solution. Nope, won't work because whatever. So you offer a solution to that new problem. Nope, won't work because whatever. And on it goes. There is no escape, no way out. A Steel Trap plot point. Brilliant.

Thai girls are geniuses at writing that stuff. Covid test results, stock, kept or borrowed photos of those little kits with the two bands, etc have added new narrative twists and turns to the "lost key" plot points for their scenarios.

And the beauty of it is none of those Steel Trap Plot Points are the girl's fault. She can not be blamed. She can not be responsible for you paying a full LT amount but only getting a ST. That is a critical element in Thai culture. It is never their fault. That's why they can't just tell the truth.

Yes, the only way to cut through that steel trap is to do what you did; pay what is fair and accept the fact that now YOU will be blamed for the shocking final act of this Hitchcock movie. Pass the popcorn, please. LOL.

Great point, maybe they are missing a career in TV show writing. Painted into a corner, the heroine manages to escape unscathed, with the villain left empty handed, "curses, foiled again".

So that's why I always TRY try to remember my 3 rules: clear menu, clear departure time, clear price with a pay AFTER tag. After being lulled into a sense of complacency by so many successful pulls, I will forget some, even all, and probably get burned. But education, and re-education, is expensive, and it's only the loss of 1 night.

[11Bravo]

Can someone tell me more about LK Metro?
And before someone says, "use the search function".
1. Go try it yourself. The search function is the worst.

UTFSE.

Why is it that some people complain about a tool when it's simply a case of not reading the instruction manual about how to use said tool. It's like someone complaining about a Porsche (you did say you were German) not going faster than 30 MPH when they haven't read the manual of how to release the emergency brake. I did try it myself and got 300 results in 12 pages in less than a second. Granted, the last result was in May 2020, but PLENTY of more recent results in between that and the 1st result, your post, and EVERY post has the keywords, LK Metro, highlighted. Pretty easy to parse even if your VPN doesn't work well and you're in a no-porn country (been there, done that).

In the spirit of the ole' cliche of "give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for the rest of his life", the SOLUTION is easy: READ the tutorial here, in the ROD's (simply click on the below link):

HOW TO SEARCH TUTORIAL
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2762933

And having lived behind a country's no-porn firewall, you might try the Searching, at your leisure trick. A lot more clutter, but any browser or text editor will have a "find in page" tool. Firefox found 58 results in the 1st 1000 posts, from yours back to October 1, 2022.

Yes, the work requirement is on you, and maybe FR posters like Sir Lancelot, Stinky Squid, Lanthano and others will regurgitate their FR's, but it's a start while you wait.

Happy New Year. Eat well.

[Rocko20]

Many ladies try to bail on LT by 1 or 2 am. They try to get their LT money at that time, because the karaoke bars open then, and they want to hit their favorite bar with cash in their pocket.

I've never had any LT negotiated lady (bar girl nor freelancer) bail on me at 1 or 2 am. Payment comes afterwards, in the morning, when I've been in Thailand. One shouldnt even be doing an LT with a WG unless they already know and can trust the woman from previous STs.

LTs are a big risk with WGs you havent seen before for a ST. They might start eating all the stuff in your fridge, cooking up some food for themselves, staring on their phone and ignore you all night, mess with the thermostat, complain about the thermostat, use up all the bath towels in your bathroom, wet up the entire bathroom floor in your bathroom, claim theyre too tired for the morning session, some want to sleep all day past 2pm when you couldve been at the gym, had breakfast, or called up another girl.

For me, the woman has to be proven with ST before I even consider LT.

[Banana Boi]

Many ladies try to bail on LT by 1 or 2 am.

Can you name the bars these ladies work at? Maybe it has a lot to do with the guy who takes them?

In over 7 years I have NEVER had a girl try to leave a LT session at 1 or 2 am and this includes Kinnaree girls that I take LT when the bar closes at 5 pm. I have had a Sensations gogo girl who I took at 8 pm ask me at 2 am while we were at Hollywood if I was doing ST or LT. Imagine if I would have said ST!

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Same thing I was thinking. She did not choose him. He shelled out so much money after so much time. She finally got tired and gave in. I would never "chase" (or court) a person that I have to pay. Either you want the 1000 baht or you don't. Step to the next one.

She never gave in Mr E.

There is much more to it that what I would write on here.

She did choose me, she had chosen me a lot earlier.

But she wasn't willing to act on it.

But, having read your forum posts and views on here often enough.

I know that you and I are not cut from the same cloth.

So we will never agree or see eye to eye on this.

Have a nice 2023 punting.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Somehow I suspect that your "windfall" would sum to negative if you include all the drinks and tips you wasted on her over 6 months.

Someone else would just have paid the amount she wanted, which in total is probably less than your total, and fucked her 6 months ago.

You don't get it werqweq.

I fuck often and wherever I want, when I want.

There is always a lady available at a price.

But hollow unengaged fucks are just sticks in holes.

They're just relief.

I truly love and enjoy the feeling of giving chase.

Of valuing someone above the money, and reaping the rewards of that.

Unless you live here you will likely never understand that.

[Explorer8939]

Many ladies try to bail on LT by 1 or 2 am. They try to get their LT money at that time, because the karaoke bars open then, and they want to hit their favorite bar with cash in their pocket.

[MartinFlevo]

Why? Just tell the truth, you want to leave for whatever reason. I'm not a warden, free to go. I always appreciated honesty, even if, regardless, there might be repercussions. The lies I find insulting, my ego in not that easily bruised. YMMV.

TiT and you forget one important thing for Thai. LOSE FACE. So maybe she didn't like you or whatever. Forgot something. Its all about WHITE LIES for them.

For us its frustrating so yeah.

[EihTooms]

First to admit, I'm a skeptic. Have had a number of memorable pleasant experiences where I was proved wrong.

But in this case, the smoking gun was: I told her we could go back to her place, deliver the keys, return to continue. No, her friend was still at the bar (I knew that already from the background sounds in the call). Fine, bar closer, we could go there to deliver the keys, then return. No, friend was afraid to go home alone (hey, I'll play, keep digging). No problem, go to the bar, all leave from the bar, take her home, then return to continue. That's when her train ran out of track. Declined. Rather obvious. I really DON'T think she was concerned with my discomfort, just a simple business decision, a chance at a double header.

The issue was that she was mad that I paid MY ST rate, NOT HER'S. The benefit of having an agreement before leaving the bar; clear when agreement changed, no misunderstanding. If she accepted my LT rate, she accepts my ST rate when SHE changes the contract. The shame was, when she orgasmed, her whole body flushed, and you can't fake that (or maybe she was just allergic to me, who's to say).

The "lost keys", the more traditional "room too cold", etc. ... Why? Just tell the truth, you want to leave for whatever reason. I'm not a warden, free to go. I always appreciated honesty, even if, regardless, there might be repercussions. The lies I find insulting, my ego in not that easily bruised. YMMV.

Your probing and, for the fun of it perhaps, trying to find a way to solve that "lost key" problem is a great example of Thai girls' talent for conjuring up what I refer to as a "Steel Trap Plot Point", worthy of the best Hitchcock scenarios. Although I think it is usually a lost or only one security key card that is either too expensive to duplicate or the landlord only allows one per room, not just an ordinary key that can be duplicated for 30 baht.

There is no solution to her problem that wouldn't benefit her and penalize you if you were to have paid up the full agreed upon LT amount, right? LOL. You offer a logical solution. Nope, won't work because whatever. So you offer a solution to that new problem. Nope, won't work because whatever. And on it goes. There is no escape, no way out. A Steel Trap plot point. Brilliant.

Thai girls are geniuses at writing that stuff. Covid test results, stock, kept or borrowed photos of those little kits with the two bands, etc have added new narrative twists and turns to the "lost key" plot points for their scenarios.

And the beauty of it is none of those Steel Trap Plot Points are the girl's fault. She can not be blamed. She can not be responsible for you paying a full LT amount but only getting a ST. That is a critical element in Thai culture. It is never their fault. That's why they can't just tell the truth.

Yes, the only way to cut through that steel trap is to do what you did; pay what is fair and accept the fact that now YOU will be blamed for the shocking final act of this Hitchcock movie. Pass the popcorn, please. LOL.

[Xiggo]

Can someone tell me more about LK Metro?

Like prices? Is it better then walking street? Service better?

And before someone says, "use the search function".

1. Go try it yourself. The search function is the worst.

2. I can not google LK metro. I am currently in a porn free country which limits my search results. Vpn does not always work.