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  1. #8804
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Most chicks don't have that kind of patience. After 2 or 3 times talking they are begging for money. I guess it is a numbers game the same as talking to chicks. If they are saying Hello, to 100 guys and they can get money from 2 or 3 just by asking, they are doing good. Ain't like they got shit else to do except sit around and beg.
    Chicks that do that get called out by me. "Stop being lazy by sitting at home on your phone asking for money from gringos. You may as well go stand outside the playa dorada resort and put in some effort". Haha.

  2. #8803
    Quote Originally Posted by Tacoma101  [View Original Post]
    Overnight dinner date 12 hours?. Keep in mind that she never mentioned money once in the months we talked. So to go hard on the morning after was super gutter. I've never had that happen here in POP. Never.
    Most chicks don't have that kind of patience. After 2 or 3 times talking they are begging for money. I guess it is a numbers game the same as talking to chicks. If they are saying Hello, to 100 guys and they can get money from 2 or 3 just by asking, they are doing good. Ain't like they got shit else to do except sit around and beg.

  3. #8802
    Quote Originally Posted by Derdeered  [View Original Post]
    She wanted 7000 dop for how much time? How long were you with her for the 4000 dop?
    Overnight dinner date 12 hours?. Keep in mind that she never mentioned money once in the months we talked. So to go hard on the morning after was super gutter. I've never had that happen here in POP. Never.

  4. #8801

    Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacoma101  [View Original Post]
    For you fine gents doing the FB game here in Puerto Plata (I'm currently here for the entire month), here are two names to avoid.

    Chey Martinez. 18 year old (confirmed) from Santiago, but now living in POP. Never mentions money but you can tell some will be expected after a date. Sex was mediocre at best. She's a phone junkie as well. Gave her 3000 DOP and she had a meltdown. Gave her another 1000 DOP just to get her out of my place and onto the street. She wanted 7000 DOP. GTFO!

    La Nina Fina and Its Ross Amenazzy are the same person except "Rossalina" is using the first account as a fake profile. Rossalina is cute as a button but bat shit crazy. Told me she was pregnant with my baby on my last trip. Yeah ok, I've been snipped, so not sure how that could happen. She finally admitted she was lying and said she only said that to keep me around. She is full Haitiana loca!

    The end.

    Taco.
    She wanted 7000 dop for how much time? How long were you with her for the 4000 dop?

  5. #8800

    Headaches

    For you fine gents doing the FB game here in Puerto Plata (I'm currently here for the entire month), here are two names to avoid.

    Chey Martinez. 18 year old (confirmed) from Santiago, but now living in POP. Never mentions money but you can tell some will be expected after a date. Sex was mediocre at best. She's a phone junkie as well. Gave her 3000 DOP and she had a meltdown. Gave her another 1000 DOP just to get her out of my place and onto the street. She wanted 7000 DOP. GTFO!

    La Nina Fina and Its Ross Amenazzy are the same person except "Rossalina" is using the first account as a fake profile. Rossalina is cute as a button but bat shit crazy. Told me she was pregnant with my baby on my last trip. Yeah ok, I've been snipped, so not sure how that could happen. She finally admitted she was lying and said she only said that to keep me around. She is full Haitiana loca!

    The end.

    Taco.

  6. #8799

    Haitians

    Are the Haitian girls cheaper? Are they more willing to please?

  7. #8798

    Hotels

    First time DR, Looks like New Garden is sold out for my days in Feb, any GF places in the area?

    Gracious Amigos.

  8. #8797

    Question about the'Charly bar

    Happy New Year everyone!

    Can anyone tell me if the bar the'Charly's is still alive?

    And if it is, can one still pick up chicas there? Back a few years, this place was a good place to hang out. Thank you.

    Ed.

  9. #8796

    Transport from Puerto Plata to Jarabacoa

    Found a company called Colonial Tour and Travel that pictures a van / small bus that advertises $83, but the catch is you must be two people minimum, so the charge is really $164 one way or $328 round trip.

    Going to keep searching when I have time, as I'm not a fan of paying double the price because I am alone. Does anyone have experience just taking an airport taxi and if so, what was the cost? Going to check the Viatour website to see what they have.

  10. #8795

    Trip Report: Playboy Vacations

    I spent four nights as a guest of Playboy Vacation (playboyvacation.com). The company runs out of the beach town of Sosua in the Dominican Republic. For about $1000/ night you stay in a private resort home with escorts who are with you 24 hours / day. Your payment covers all your needs: transportation, meals, booze, gratuities (sort of) and reasonable miscellany. The reviews that are posted on PV's website are, of course, glowing.

    Here is a thorough and frank review if you care to read it. Despite it's mixed nature, I suspect this review will generate more business for Playboy Vacations, not less.

    TLDR: 3 stars, mostly good people, mediocre experience.

    Overview: Playboy Vacations (hereafter PV) is one of a number of similar outfits in the Dominican Republic that I have not patronized so I can not compare them directly to PV.

    Cost: In the end, I conclude this is not worth the cost. Admittedly, by ponying up the extra you greatly increase your personal safety, avoid the headache of arranging and managing your stay, ordering food, finding escorts you like (a dangerous adventure in itself), getting around town, etc.

    DR is a poor country and many locals who see a foreigner will be looking for a way to take advantage. Assess your risk tolerance before you reject this option based solely on cost. It's also notable that if you want more than one companion, you'll need to pay extra for that. The PV deluxe packages top out at $2000/ night. The more deluxe your trip is, the less of a bargain it is. Then again, if you can afford $2000/ night do you care that much?

    The Women: These are mainly young, attractive local girls and most are a solid 7 or 8 out of 10. While they are certainly experienced, these are not professional escorts and their inexperience leads to mixed results.

    I also found that while they understood the expectation they have little motivation to act as PV has promised them the same flat fee regardless of how much or what they do in your company. So, their main motivation is to do as little as possible without eliciting a complaint to the boss (see below). Without the promise of gratuities, most activities required verbal negotiation and, in some cases, compromise. Here is the truth with regard to services promised by the website:

    MSOG. Yes, with a condom and a varying degree of enthusiasm.

    BBBJ. Yes, but there was a range of skill and willingness to persist for long.

    CIM. Reliably this is a hard no. Perhaps related to the above.

    DFK. Typically no, certainly not without negotiation.

    DATY. Typically yes, but no FIV.

    GFE. Limited. At first opportunity, most women will quickly retreat to their own space and get on their phone. It may go better if you are young, attractive, charming and can speak Spanish. (But if so, why would you pay for a service like this?

    Greek. Hard no. The website does not promise this and I can confirm you're not going to get it.

    I also encountered varying levels of resistance to some mundane activities: swimming, going to the beach, using massage oil (acne concerns), etc. The women feel a lot of latitude to refuse activities that aren't strictly promised.

    PV's customer satisfaction would be greatly improved if PV would actively collect quantitative information on quality of service (e. G. , rank your companions from best to worst) and tie those results directly to the escorts' pay.

    The Staff: Your personal chef will be a delightful woman named Olga (or her equally-pleasant daughter) who has been with PV for over 5 years. Olga will, as promised, cheerfully and skillfully cook you whatever you want within the limits of PV's budget and what groceries are available in the area. She also acts as PV's madam. She'll often be in the kitchen while you are in the bedroom so that the girls don't have far to run if you decide to be an ass.

    While I was there, my driver was Junior. Junior was reliably friendly and prompt. Your driver is not your personal driver despite what the website claims. You are sharing him with all the other guests. If you want to go anywhere expect to schedule it well in advance. Also, expect to be told "no" for any trip of a duration greater than 20 minutes. OTOH, there's not much to do and see that's anywhere near as enjoyable as the activities in the house.

    The Boss: The person who runs the show is a man named Payton. All negotiations and requests for service go through him.

    Quite frankly, Payton is the main reason that PV isn't a more successful business. First, and foremost, Payton is a serial liar. I found him constantly providing me with contradictory information. His main motivation is to keep his clients from getting "off script" from the type of visit he wants them to have. Expect to be told "no" to almost every request you make. Payton's main tactic is to make up a lie to explain why you can't have it. If you have a concern, he'll make up a lie to explain why you shouldn't worry. This would be easier to swallow if Payton were a better liar.

    Payton is also lacking in detail management. He sometimes forgot things we'd discussed earlier or mislaid my requests when I was there. When I would remind him of things he would claim I'd never asked for them. When negotiating with him on the phone, I recommend you get written commitment from him (WhatsApp) as well. Don't make any assumptions about what will happen or what you will get.

    I think the source of both Payton's behaviors is that he's failing to delegate more of the work he's doing. He's juggling too many customers (and potential customers) with too few staff in order to maximize his profits. And I think he's fighting a serious narcotics addiction. Hiring a "customer service" rep would greatly improve the quality of service that his customers receive and expand the number of "yes" answers they would get. If such a person could spend time on marketing that would allow the business to expand. Adding a second driver would make a big difference too.

    The Lineup: First of all, there isn't a lineup. While prostitution is legal in the DR, brothels are not. PV skirts this rule by making the lineup a virtual affair.

    The website's assertion that PV has "over 50" girls for you to choose from is completely false. My impression is that he has a handful of regulars and then a penumbra of others who will come sometimes.

    About a week before your visit, Payton will have a phone call with you to have you "choose" your women from photos and videos he has sent you of perhaps 20 possibilities. Of these, I suspect about 4 are actually available at any particular time. Furthermore, whatever you choose, most will not be available when you arrive. Payton will draw from a deck of well-worn excuses ("she's on her period", "she's pregnant", "she's out of town", etc.) I advise you to go with the flow on this. Frankly, all the women are reasonably attractive and its their overall attitude that can make or break your time with them. You can't discern personality and attitude by looking at pictures. Let Payton help you in this regard. One thing he clearly knows very well is women in general and his women in particular. Tell him what you like -- both in terms of looks and personality -- and he'll try to help.

    Accommodation: You'll be staying at a place called Casa Linda (casalindacity.com). Feel free to read the reviews. It's basically like a hotel but instead of lots of rooms in a single building, it's lots of small homes complete with working kitchen, living room, patio and swimming pool. The backyards are reasonably private. The homes look nice and the grounds maintenance is excellent. The maid staff comes every other day and do an okay job. (Ask for extra towels!) Most importantly, it is a gated community with excellent security. You will feel safe there. This is markedly better than a regular hotel.

    Website Truth vs Fiction: The website has a lot to say about what your visit will be like. Here is a rundown on reality:

    5 star accommodations. No. But nice. 4 stars.

    Airport transfers. Yes, excellent.

    Your own private villa. Yes, see Accommodation (above).

    Endless Pools. A small, well-maintained pool, not "endless" or "infinity. ".

    Various amenities in the house. Yes, though not particularly "luxurious" as stated. The bathrooms are clean. They are equipped with showers not tubs. So, leave the bubble bath at home. Hot water takes a full 90 seconds to arrive to the shower. The bed is a very hard hotel bed so bring a pad if you need one.

    Kitchen. Supplies are limited and appliances are functional but not remarkable.

    Fully Stocked Bar. No. However, Payton will ask you what beverages you want and supply a semblance of that.

    Fully Stocked Mini Bar. No. And you don't want it anyway. There is plenty of good food and drink to be had that you've already paid for.

    Wireless Internet. Yes. Reasonably fast and reliable.

    Flatscreen TV with HBO and Showtime. The one time I tried, I couldn't get this to work and had more enjoyable activities to do anyway.

    Combination Safe. Yes.

    Your Own Personal Maid. No. This is the hotel's maid service. They come every other day.

    Your Own Private Chef. Mostly, yes. You may share her with another client but she will take good care of you.

    Your Own Personal Host On Call 24 Hours a Day. Payton's replies are usually prompt. If you message him in the middle of the night I'd expect no reply until morning.

    Your Own Personal Guide and Chauffeur. No, see "Staff" above.

    "We Will Get You Anything You Want and Take You Anywhere You Want To Go. " - definitely, no. Some small requests are honored. There is a very short list of places Payton will allow you to go.

    Airport Transfer. Yes.

    24 Hour Security. Excellent, provided by the property management company.

    All Meals. Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner. Yes. Good food.

    All Gratuities. Yes-ish. I don't think these are expected but they are gratefully received. Payton will ask that you route all tips through Olga. I am suspicious of this and would recommend you tip directly.

    VIP Club Membership. I don't think this does anything. It was never discussed.

    Privacy: PV gets high marks from me in this category. This was not a vacation that I intended to mention in my annual Christmas letter. I was never asked for a passport or asked to sign in. Everything was done on a first name basis.

    If you want complete privacy there some hurdles to overcome:

    Down payment. PV requires a down payment of $500 via PayPal. If privacy is 100% important you'll need to create a throwaway email and associated PayPal account.

    Don't be a dope. Think about what items you have with you that have your name / address on them. Is your name visible on your phone? Do you have luggage tags with your name on it? How about any letters or notebook? How about any prescription bottles? Etc.

    For what it's worth, I do think you could trust PV with your identity if you wanted to and they would respect it. However, it's notable that their own opsec isn't great. On two occasions, the real name of a woman I was with was slipped by someone working for PV. One time it was Payton himself. But why'know, it's not like you are James Bond either.

    Logistics: If you end up booking with PV here is how it goes:

    4+ weeks in advance (ideally more) - contact PV via WhatsApp. Presumably this is for encryption. (Do your research before you trust that encryption much.) Ask questions and clear the dates you have in mind. Then, book your flight. Payton will need two important things from you: a) a $500 deposit (via PayPal) and b) your flight itinerary.

    About 2 weeks in advance. Payton will send you the "line up" (see above) and a final invoice for what you owe him. Don't be a dick. Get that money now and in $100 bills so it can be counted quickly.

    4-5 days in advance. Payton will do a planning phone call with you at a time you schedule. Here you'll "choose" your girls (see The Line Up above) and also tell him what kind of food, drinks and and other items you like.

    A few days in advance. Payton will send you some advice about how to pack and what to expect. *Follow this advice. * In particular, don't forget to fill out the DR immigration form before you travel. The only advice I stretched on was packing light. It's good advice but I had some needs that required a checked bag. Payton will also tell you not to bring jeans and to wear shorts but you'll want at least one pair of slacks in case you go out one night.

    Arrival day. You will send a photo of yourself on the day you fly so that the driver can find you. Payton also has a guy who can help you skip the line at DR customs. I asked for this but that request got lost so I stood in line. It wasn't that bad really (about 30 minutes). The driver will take you straight from the airport in Puerto Plata to your new "home. " Everyone will be there waiting for you and you should be ready to turn over your entire balance due, in cash, immediately. Then you'll be left "alone" with your female companions and the cooks. The latter will leave after dinner.

    Subsequent days. Olga will arrive around 9 am. You'll get a visit from Payton sometime in the middle of the day to check in on you in person. If you are changing out your companions this switch happens here. Olga leaves after dinner. You won't be able to leave the house without arranging it in advance. So if you're a cabin fever type, plan ahead.

    Last day. Like any hotel, checkout time is 11 am. You'll be taken directly to the airport. If you, like me, don't fly out until 4 pm you'll be waiting that time out at the airport.

    Miscellany: I can't believe you're still reading this. Here are some final tidbits of information:

    Recreational drugs. I did not partake of this during my stay but it seemed clear that PV could have helped me acquire these if I wanted to. PV also has viagra (generic) 100 MG available for your use. These will be doled out one at a time.

    Spanish. If you don't speak Spanish you can expect to have trouble communicating with your companions. Translation apps are great but they are still awkward. I recommend you learn some key phrases in advance. Here are a few Spanish words and phrases I learned during this trip, I'm sure there are others you may want to know:

    Listo. I'm ready.

    Mas suave. Softer.

    Mas dura. Harder.

    Me gusta. I like this.

    Ahora. Now.

    Despus. Later.

    Mas rapida. Faster.

    Mas lenta. Slower.

    STDs. I was told that PV escorts are tested once per month. I was never offered proof of this assertion and I highly doubt it. Given how busy the small staff is, I suspect this is not really happening but I have no proof one way or the other. I recommend you take additional steps to protect yourself (e. G. , PrEP).

    Duration. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Pace yourself. I don't recommend a visit longer than 3 nights.

    Is it really all inclusive? - yes, really. However, as discussed above you may find tips an essential negotiating tool.

  11. #8794
    Well I had arranged a date with a girl in Puerto Plata and she was a pain in the ass and we had to drive clear through the city to go to the cabanas- she said go to La Isla which I had already determined was the best choice- A little different format than I have encountered in my limited experience. You just drive straight into the garage. Go inside and pay through the lazy Susan. Well I drove into the first one that was in front of me. It said Executive Suite. My bad. Well it was a palace inside with a sunken hot tub the size of a pool. Huge inside. But JESUS! It was 4000 pesos for a few hours. I could've got a nice hotel- So it is a great place but very pricey. I guess if you were looking to arrange an orgy or something it might be perfect. I suppose I would have been less upset if the girl had performed better.

  12. #8793
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Looks like you have it all figured out. Since money is no object, I am sure there will be plenty of drivers at the airport ready to take you for $200 and pick you up when you are ready. Just make sure you see their car first!
    Well, I'm not going to sweat over $25 or so if I get what I am looking for. I already have a referral quote for $175 with a picture of the car and driver from someone I have met in person, so I will probably go with that option.

    My flight is practically free on points and the hotels in Jarabacoa are pretty inexpensive, so if I pay a little more for transportation, so be it. I'm really past the point of sweating over the little things. What I value most is reliability and I am looking forward to reuniting with the lady I met on my last trip to Puerto Plata. Off to the hometown now!

    The sex will be amazing and free, except for the cost of dinners, drinks and my usual gift or two. Been there done that with this lady and have zero concerns.

  13. #8792
    Quote Originally Posted by Guerinto  [View Original Post]
    I've been told 2. 5 hours by someone who lives there. I was using the time from Google Maps as an estimate. The time it takes is not the problem I am trying to solve. It takes what it takes.
    Looks like you have it all figured out. Since money is no object, I am sure there will be plenty of drivers at the airport ready to take you for $200 and pick you up when you are ready. Just make sure you see their car first!

  14. #8791
    Quote Originally Posted by Norbert61  [View Original Post]
    Might be easier to fly into Santo Domingo.
    Thanks, but I am not interested in Santo Domingo. Plus it is a slightly longer drive. The plan is Puerto Plata to Jarabacoa and I don't want to alter it. I'll be buying the flight today to take advantage of a sale.

  15. #8790
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    If you think it is a 2 hour drive from Puerto Plata to Jarabacoa then you are sadly mistaken. It took me 2 hours to drive from Moca to Jarabacoa and Moca is almost 2 hours from Puerto Plata. There is a lot of twisting and turning up through those mountains. The GPS will tell you shorter than it actually is.
    I've been told 2. 5 hours by someone who lives there. I was using the time from Google Maps as an estimate. The time it takes is not the problem I am trying to solve. It takes what it takes.

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