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  1. #28606
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Why? I'll be honest and say I didn't find her anything special. Certainly not $10 k special. I realise she markets herself as "girl next door" but I've seen many girls in AC and Asia generally who are stunners in comparison. Of course YMMV depending on preferences.

    She's certainly not the only one to post a crazy sticker price and wait for idiots to pay it.

    Granted, if your measure of "quality" is education, intelligence and conversation, then that's a different discussion and I'd agree with you.

    Cheers. G.
    I think what I was trying to say is that you don't see girls of Madison winters quality dancing around chrome poles in Asian gogo bars.

    Of course there are Asian professional models that are just as high quality as their western sisters, but the Asian professional models that might also sell their body cost the same 1000's of usd per night as their western sisters.

    What I won't accept though is members claiming that professional models are expensive in Toronto Canada or usa so its much better to travel to Asia to fuck much lower quality cheaper bar girls, of course that would in no way be comparing apples to apples.

    In honesty I look at most of the Angeles girls available to westerners and would not even buy them a lady drink let alone pay 100 usd to fuck them and I'm already here so no travel expenses.

    As a side note I once paid a manila motor show model a very large sum of money for a night back at my hotel, was it money well spent, you bet it was, one of the best faces, body and fucks I have had in the phills.

    Morale of the story, quality girls are not found in the bargain basement section.

  2. #28605
    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Not sure you can compare the quality of girls like Madison winters to what's available in Asia..
    Why? I'll be honest and say I didn't find her anything special. Certainly not $10 k special. I realise she markets herself as "girl next door" but I've seen many girls in AC and Asia generally who are stunners in comparison. Of course YMMV depending on preferences.

    She's certainly not the only one to post a crazy sticker price and wait for idiots to pay it.

    Granted, if your measure of "quality" is education, intelligence and conversation, then that's a different discussion and I'd agree with you.

    Cheers. G.

  3. #28604
    Quote Originally Posted by Lulle  [View Original Post]
    I've read a lot in this (AC) and the Manila threads, but I'm confused (and lost in discussions that veer to Indonesia and other topics).

    On Burgos Street, it the bar fine is now 3500-4000, then you pay as much again to the girl, negotiated up front.

    In AC, the bar fine averages 3500. But does she also negotiate 3000-4000 up front, or is such a tip not expected, just 500-1000 for good effort?
    Burgos is 10 drinks for the Barfine, paid directly to the bar before you leave. Depending on where you are that will be 35 to 3900 peso. The girl will also want her payment based on ST / LT, time of night etc. This could be anywhere from 3 to 6000 peso and is typically paid direct to her before she leaves the room. A newbie may be asked for full payment upfront but it's not necessary to do this.

    AC barfines include both the bar and girl's fees and is paid in full before leaving the bar. A tip can be added for good service and would typically be in the 00's of pesos.

    Enjoy. G.

  4. #28603

    Is it "barfine+tip" or "barfine only"?

    I've read a lot in this (AC) and the Manila threads, but I'm confused (and lost in discussions that veer to Indonesia and other topics).

    On Burgos Street, it the bar fine is now 3500-4000, then you pay as much again to the girl, negotiated up front.

    In AC, the bar fine averages 3500. But does she also negotiate 3000-4000 up front, or is such a tip not expected, just 500-1000 for good effort?

  5. #28602
    Quote Originally Posted by PuteNut  [View Original Post]
    Good to see a realistic post interspersing the tales of non-stop condomless debauchery with AC's "top models" LOL.

    I think it's becoming more common that the girl clarifies this point before going out, happens quite often to me. I tend to prefer lower mileage so perhaps my sample is skewed. Hygiene seems also to be stressing condoms in their mandatory lectures. Condom or no condom is a personal choice; you may not catch the big one going sans French letters, but AC can certainly put you out of action with some other nasties.
    Catching something fatal in your cock and succumbing prematurely to the Reaper is an occupational hazard for all mongers not just the bareback gang. A certain percentage of condoms will fail and mongers will be infected. On the other hand, mongers lacking adequate immunity could just as easily expire due to infection from a particularly virulent strain of Covid-19 caught during a night of condom-filled debauchery with an infectious LBFM.

  6. #28601

    Lunar New Year

    Hi guys,

    How is the holiday going to affect the amount of girls in Angeles City?

    I wonder if most of the girls will be going back to their provinces.

    Thanks for your inputs.

  7. #28600
    Quote Originally Posted by SeaTraveler  [View Original Post]
    It's the evening dates or overnighters where the true value lies in Southeast Asia. I prefer longer "date-like" encounters over the "wham-bam-thank-you ma'am" of the brothels.

    A date with Kimber in Toronto is $5000 for 10 hours. 24 hours with Madison Winter in Toronto is $10,000.

    My 3-week trip to Jakarta; Bali, Manila & Angeles with business class plane tickets and 4-5 star hotels is costing around $8,000. Add an overnighter in Jakarta at $300 and I'm still ahead of a that single date with Winter.

    Overnighters in the USA run from $3000 to $6000.

    And that ya'll is why I save my money and travel.

    Cheers, SEA Traveler.
    Not sure you can compare the quality of girls like Madison winters to what's available in Asia.

    Gone are the days of the better looking girls of Angeles staying long time for cheap, why because the better looking girls are in extremely high demand and charge by the hour, why fuck one guy for 10 hours for 5,000 p when she can fuck 5 guys at 5,000 p per hour = 25,000 p per day.

    Yes one can find a freelance old homeless girl in Angeles for long time with cheaper price but who would travel around the world for such.

  8. #28599
    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    You ask where else can guys can get sucked and fucked like in angeles, Well prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Angeles just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified ads, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.

    Let's remember the cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7-10 days would be a minimum 4,000-5,000 usd when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with 4,000-5,000 usd one could fuck near models every day for the same 7-10 days duration in Europe.

    The Rest of Asia, just like Angeles pros exist in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos at similar if not less cost like for like.

    Now on to prostitutes supposed orgasms, just because a girl is moaning and pulling fuck me harder faces does not mean she is not play acting, in truth she could just as well be thinking what she is going to cook her kids for dinner while she's moaning.

    On to tight pinay pussies, never found pinay prostitutes to be tighter or looser than pros of any other nation, considering by the very nature of their profession most of these girls have fucked thousands of guys, have had multiple child births so not sure anything left to be tight about their pussies..
    Hello Napa,

    What I meant was where do you find a girl who will bring over three girlfriends to massage you and go swimming and then let one of them blow you?

    I have been to the FKKs in Europe and they are ok. I have been to the other SEA places you mentioned and more (except Laos) and they are ok but the group thing does not happen.

    As for her orgasms she has got to be a prime time porn actress to pull that one off. If she is faking it she is better than 99% of the other 600-some girls I have been with. But at 23 she is fairly new to the game and did not have any kids.

  9. #28598

    Perspective

    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]

    For those that have to fly half way across the globe at great expense might see it differently though, and when all costs factored in flights, hotels, insurances etc those same under 100 usd girls for the close bye guys could work out to be 4-500 usd each for the guys from us, uk, europe once all expenses taken into account.

    Let's remember the cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7-10 days would be a minimum 4,000-5,000 usd when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with 4,000-5,000 usd one could fuck near models every day for the same 7-10 days duration in Europe.
    It's the evening dates or overnighters where the true value lies in Southeast Asia. I prefer longer "date-like" encounters over the "wham-bam-thank-you ma'am" of the brothels.

    A date with Kimber in Toronto is $5000 for 10 hours. 24 hours with Madison Winter in Toronto is $10,000.

    My 3-week trip to Jakarta; Bali, Manila & Angeles with business class plane tickets and 4-5 star hotels is costing around $8,000. Add an overnighter in Jakarta at $300 and I'm still ahead of a that single date with Winter.

    Overnighters in the USA run from $3000 to $6000.

    And that ya'll is why I save my money and travel.

    Cheers, SEA Traveler.

  10. #28597
    Quote Originally Posted by Docwiltro  [View Original Post]
    Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Hey! What about me on my next trip?
    Bruh. Got you covered. One of my favoritas.
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  11. #28596
    Quote Originally Posted by Docwiltro  [View Original Post]
    Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.
    Thanks. Doc. Trying to send you a PM for details.

  12. #28595
    Quote Originally Posted by Docwiltro  [View Original Post]
    Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.
    Hey! What about me on my next trip?

  13. #28594
    Quote Originally Posted by DCups  [View Original Post]
    In AC her tits may be small but if you look hard enough you can find a B cup or C or even D if you are willing to lower your facial and other body standards. I used to have some regulars there but they moved on and have to be replaced by new talent which is readily available. Cheers.
    Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.
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  14. #28593
    Quote Originally Posted by DCups  [View Original Post]
    I go to AC prolly 3 or four tines a year for quite some time now. It is quite convenient and cheap for me to get there as I live on Negros Island in PI and it is a short flight to Cebu then Clark. I was AC in the 1980's heydeys (with my Uncle Sam) which I recall with great fondness and much more enthusiasm. It is a shadow of what it was then but it is still a desirable mongering destination despite increased costs. The Korean effect, etc.

    Look at all the places that have disappeared, fellas. Surabaya's sin city in Indonesia. Curacao's Happy Camp in the Caribbean. EDSA in Manila. The casas in Manila and Cebu. Et cetera. I have been to all of these Classic locations and many more which have vanished like a fart in the wind. So, count your blessings, fellas. You can still get laid here for under a hundred bucks and her pussy is so tight and wet and willing.

    The last girl I was with there, from Angel Witch, came three times while I was fucking her. No shit, man. Her face was prolly a 6 but her body is a solid 8. Damage was 4 K. And then she brought three gfs over from Angel Witch and they took turns massaging me, and swimming in Orchid Inn's pool. Then one of her gfs, a 7, starts to blow me quite expertly so I gave her 2 K. Where else in the world does this happen? Please tell me and I will go there.

    In AC her tits may be small but if you look hard enough you can find a B cup or C or even D if you are willing to lower your facial and other body standards. I used to have some regulars there but they moved on and have to be replaced by new talent which is readily available. Cheers.
    Glad to hear that you can still find some enjoyment in todays angeles city, I think the secret is to live either in angeles or somewhere near bye in order to keep costs per girl low.

    For those that have to fly half way across the globe at great expense might see it differently though, and when all costs factored in flights, hotels, insurances etc those same under 100 usd girls for the close bye guys could work out to be 4-500 usd each for the guys from us, uk, europe once all expenses taken into account.

    In truth I would say that by the time one takes out the better looking angeles girls which are mainly drinks only girls, cherrie girls and asian only girls then what's left for the westerner is low quality and even at under 100 usd is extortionate in price.

    New years eve this year which is the peak day in peak season saw many western bars with no customers many of these bars also closed down well before midnight so I'm not sure of your claim that angeles is a desired location is in the slightest true for many punters.

    You ask where else can guys can get sucked and fucked like in angeles, Well prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Angeles just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified ads, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.

    Let's remember the cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7-10 days would be a minimum 4,000-5,000 usd when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with 4,000-5,000 usd one could fuck near models every day for the same 7-10 days duration in Europe.

    The Rest of Asia, just like Angeles pros exist in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos at similar if not less cost like for like.

    My take is that Angeles is what it is, I find the guys that are complaining the least out of my Angeles friends are those that live there already and are willing to greatly lower their expectations / standards when it comes to available girls.

    Now on to prostitutes supposed orgasms, just because a girl is moaning and pulling fuck me harder faces does not mean she is not play acting, in truth she could just as well be thinking what she is going to cook her kids for dinner while she's moaning.

    On to tight pinay pussies, never found pinay prostitutes to be tighter or looser than pros of any other nation, considering by the very nature of their profession most of these girls have fucked thousands of guys, have had multiple child births so not sure anything left to be tight about their pussies.

    Warm wet pinay pussy, this is where I worry, many pinay pros have pinoy husbands, pinoy boyfriends, pinoy lovers, some girls have all 3 at the same time add on a few paid customers per day and that warm wet feeling pinay pussy might just be a few fluid ounces of newly inserted sperm from multiple doners just before she turned up at ones door and not in fact that she excited to see us.

    Anyways each to their own, if some are happy in Angeles then I'm happy for them.

  15. #28592

    My Take on AC

    I go to AC prolly 3 or four tines a year for quite some time now. It is quite convenient and cheap for me to get there as I live on Negros Island in PI and it is a short flight to Cebu then Clark. I was AC in the 1980's heydeys (with my Uncle Sam) which I recall with great fondness and much more enthusiasm. It is a shadow of what it was then but it is still a desirable mongering destination despite increased costs. The Korean effect, etc.

    Look at all the places that have disappeared, fellas. Surabaya's sin city in Indonesia. Curacao's Happy Camp in the Caribbean. EDSA in Manila. The casas in Manila and Cebu. Et cetera. I have been to all of these Classic locations and many more which have vanished like a fart in the wind. So, count your blessings, fellas. You can still get laid here for under a hundred bucks and her pussy is so tight and wet and willing.

    The last girl I was with there, from Angel Witch, came three times while I was fucking her. No shit, man. Her face was prolly a 6 but her body is a solid 8. Damage was 4 K. And then she brought three gfs over from Angel Witch and they took turns massaging me, and swimming in Orchid Inn's pool. Then one of her gfs, a 7, starts to blow me quite expertly so I gave her 2 K. Where else in the world does this happen? Please tell me and I will go there.

    In AC her tits may be small but if you look hard enough you can find a B cup or C or even D if you are willing to lower your facial and other body standards. I used to have some regulars there but they moved on and have to be replaced by new talent which is readily available. Cheers.

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