Rio de Janeiro Reports

[The Cane]

So. I have a question or maybe a few questions:

1) how does one compare the minimum wage of a worker in Brazil or anywhere for that matter to be equal to the work done by an escort? Is it the same kind of work? What qualifies as minimum wage work in Brazil?

2) let's look at the expense side of things does a minimum wage worker need to get her hair done, her nails done, buy nice dresses, pay for gym membership and try to eat healthy (which by the way is pretty damn expensive) to work at her job?

3) does a minimum wage worker have to answer calls all day from creeps, weirdos and perverts and then meet said creeps at some hotel where she has no idea what kind of animal will open the door? I have seen some nasty motherfuckers in clubs and bars and I really felt sorry for the girl that this person chose to take home. Smelly, fat as fuck, crappy hygiene. You know the type. I am not saying we are all like that but they do exist. I can see how some may say that the girl might chose this profession so she knows what she is getting into and that is why she sets her price.

I have seen many lower wage workers in my work travels around Brazil, Mexico, Bolivia, Colombia, Argentina, Hong Kong, Dubai and India and I have never ever given them a second glance. I have seen some true knockouts at Scandello, at 4 x4, in Mexico, in the bars in Dubai and in Wan Chai and my mouth stayed open. Now I am sure those women have much higher maintenance expense than the lower wage workers. So why shouldn't they charge more?

I am not saying whether paying a certain price is a good deal or not. I believe that is up to the person who is negotiating. I am just asking. Why are we comparing minimum wages to a profession that has certain expenses and dangers associated with it for the person participating in that profession? How is it equal?

When making comparisons a lot goes into it. But, you absolutely must look at the types of labor being performed and what it takes to do a good job. Too many people think that just because it's sex work that it's legitimate to equate that work with a minimum wage job. I strongly disagree, and you point out several good reasons why that's not always the most appropriate comparison. Another thing to consider is that sex work is of an extremely intimate and personal nature and, depending on what services the sex worker offers, can be quite demanding and draining upon the provider's person, both physically and mentally. That's all worth something when it comes to placing a value on services rendered. And like you, I'm not talking about whether a certain price is a good deal or not. No, what I am saying is that in determining what is or isn't a good price, just remember that all sex work isn't just like doing some lowly, minimum wage job.

It's not as simple as that, and even within the whole world of "tutes" if you will, there are different levels of tutes with some of them and the services they deliver (and how that delivery occurs) being closer to minimum wage work or even less (street stank hoor), while others deliver services in a way that is more professional in nature (sophisticated call girl). Now, I'm not one of these guys who subscribes to the mantra that when it comes to women that all the "product" is the same, and only worth but so much. Rather, some women are Buicks, some are BMWs, and some are Bentleys. And they should, and you must expect, that they will charge accordingly. So, circulate in the market (s) that work for you and your wealth level, and how you want to spend your money. Just remember that not all women, and that includes the tutes, are worth the same (minimum wage). And whether you believe that or not? Remember that they do, and will act accordingly.

[Anaggie]

And this only proves my point (discussed in the SP thread). She is making just above $600/ month working 6 shifts a week, 24 shifts total per month. Below $30 (USD) per shift. But some garotas have a nerve to ask $300 (yes, USD) per hour, this is ridiculous. And guys not even negotiating, thinking it is a great deal.

So. I have a question or maybe a few questions:

1) how does one compare the minimum wage of a worker in Brazil or anywhere for that matter to be equal to the work done by an escort? Is it the same kind of work? What qualifies as minimum wage work in Brazil?

2) let's look at the expense side of things — does a minimum wage worker need to get her hair done, her nails done, buy nice dresses, pay for gym membership and try to eat healthy (which by the way is pretty damn expensive) to work at her job?

3) does a minimum wage worker have to answer calls all day from creeps, weirdos and perverts and then meet said creeps at some hotel where she has no idea what kind of animal will open the door? I have seen some nasty motherfuckers in clubs and bars and I really felt sorry for the girl that this person chose to take home. Smelly, fat as fuck, crappy hygiene. You know the type. I am not saying we are all like that but they do exist. I can see how some may say that the girl might chose this profession so she knows what she is getting into and that is why she sets her price.

I have seen many lower wage workers in my work travels around Brazil, Mexico, Bolivia, Colombia, Argentina, Hong Kong, Dubai and India and I have never ever given them a second glance. I have seen some true knockouts at Scandello, at 4 x4, in Mexico, in the bars in Dubai and in Wan Chai and my mouth stayed open. Now I am sure those women have much higher maintenance expense than the lower wage workers. So why shouldn't they charge more?

I am not saying whether paying a certain price is a good deal or not. I believe that is up to the person who is negotiating. I am just asking. Why are we comparing minimum wages to a profession that has certain expenses and dangers associated with it for the person participating in that profession? How is it equal?

[DustyRode]

And this only proves my point (discussed in the SP thread). She is making just above $600/ month working 6 shifts a week, 24 shifts total per month. Below $30 (USD) per shift. But some garotas have a nerve to ask $300 (yes, USD) per hour, this is ridiculous. And guys not even negotiating, thinking it is a great deal.

That argument doesn't make sense. Some people make more than others in all levels of a capitalist system. Doesn't matter if they are sports heroes, engineers or great artists. It's a matter of supply and demand. If a girl can make x amount of money more than a standard wage based on her looks or negotiating skills she has every right to do that. Guys who buy for her rate aren't being suckered, they are agreeing based on needs and wants.

[MiamiBoy1]

I had an interesting encounter. A girl that works late shift for Yamaha gets off at 11:30 PM so we had a date at a 24 hours store to have some beers. She works 6 days a week and gets two paychecks per month. Each paycheck is are $1600.

And this only proves my point (discussed in the SP thread). She is making just above $600/ month working 6 shifts a week, 24 shifts total per month. Below $30 (USD) per shift. But some garotas have a nerve to ask $300 (yes, USD) per hour, this is ridiculous. And guys not even negotiating, thinking it is a great deal.

[DinoDong]

Today I went to Claro in Rio Sul shopping mall and they wouldn't sell a sim card. They told me that the manager doesn't want to do it anymore. TIM on the second floor asked for approx. 300 R for 12 gb. Declined. Did anyone else encountered this issue? Any solutions?

[Rio Bob]

Hey guys planning my first trip to rio. I'm a veteran of Medellin and was wondering if there's a spot to buy drugs like weed / tussi that's safe-ish like barrio Antioquia in Medellin.

If you walk up and down Copacabana or Ipanema and see guys selling bongs or other paraphernalia or you see a sign saying Bob Marley someone will approach you and try and sell you some low quality products. On the other hand the girls have much higher quality products, they would be your best bet.

[DinoDong]

Hi Guys,

I'm back RdJ. Just found out that the foreign exchange is really bad on a national holiday. Cheers.

Ow, is senor Vagabundo doing his centro tour anytime soon?

And, does anyone know how the VM situation is during the day? (3-6).

[Nounce]

... How many guys have come here reporting paying an arm and a leg....

I had an interesting encounter. A girl that works late shift for Yamaha gets off at 11:30 PM so we had a date at a 24 hours store to have some beers. She works 6 days a week and gets two paychecks per month. Each paycheck is are $1600.

[The Cane]

Hi mongers,

It is often hard to find mongering places for Saturday / Sunday. Any recommendation for Saturday / Sunday for high class chicas? I am into white or mulata hotties.

On Saturdays you can also try termas like Solarium, Monte Carlo, and Centaurus. There's also the nightclubs like Black & White, La Dolce Vita, and Marrakech. And for all weekend don't forget all of the online options, one of them being Rio Sex Site for example, which I have used successfully (do a search here to find previous posts for more full online options).

[CenTexCrash]

Hi mongers,

It is often hard to find mongering places for Saturday / Sunday. Any recommendation for Saturday / Sunday for high class chicas? I am into white or mulata hotties.

Was going to write a noob report but I'll spit out this excerpt:

Options are REALLY limited on Saturdays. Almost non-existent on Sundays.

Saturday night check out Perala Negra opens evening doesn't start getting lively until 9pm onwards

Best options are Tinder, SA. Or do this: during the week go to termas like 4 x4 get Whatsapp from girls and message them to meet at beach either Saturday / Sunday especially toward end of month when rent is due.

(I had a very rocky first time in Rio a few weeks ago, and wish I had known the entire city sleeps in on weekends when I booked the dates Thur-Sun) (And I may have unfairly taken out my frustrations on ISG)

[PepolesBuddy]

Hey guys planning my first trip to rio. I'm a veteran of Medellin and was wondering if there's a spot to buy drugs like weed / tussi that's safe-ish like barrio Antioquia in Medellin.

[Gabbarsing]

Hi mongers,

It is often hard to find mongering places for Saturday / Sunday. Any recommendation for Saturday / Sunday for high class chicas? I am into white or mulata hotties.

[Mr Enternational]

Just to satisfy my curiosity if I am overpaying, or if the girl is a working girl. She is not bad looking. She will make more money but she have to work more.

It's just a single example, not trying to generalize anything except what is stated above 😂.

Thank you man. How many guys have come here reporting paying an arm and a leg. After she said 600, all it took was for you to say I can do 300. It was that simple. No mood ruined or nothing. Seems she is in good spirits even after agreeing to half of what she first asked.

[Nounce]

Just to satisfy my curiosity if I am overpaying, or if the girl is a working girl. She is not bad looking. She will make more money but she have to work more.

It's just a single example, not trying to generalize anything except what is stated above 😂.

[Nounce]

Chege's information is very good.

Thank you, this is helpful info.

Did you end up seeing anyone more than once? What amount did you settle on? That's my plan, to try and meet a couple, and the one who things go well with, I'd definitely like to see again but wouldn't want to keep paying the same amount per date as the first.

I have moved on to a smaller pond. LOL. I think Steve is right if you have to guess. My experience is only a small part of it. Different people will have different experience. If you do find someone hot, she is probably going to ask for a lot if she has been in this game for a while. If you want her, you are likely have to pay if you are only here for a few weeks, and the numbers we suggested here will be useless. The online SB dynamic is very different from meeting in person like in Scandallo. Girls have the advantage because the hot one could have many men chasing after her. In Scandalllo, you pick the girl while SB online picks you. That is the main difference. Money solves all problems at Scandallo and not necessary costing more when you factor in everything.

I couldn't explain everything. Even in the group that I focus on. Some girls would wait until the last minute to ask me the electronically transfer money to her for Uber. Like this one and she deleted the messages when I did not respond quickly. It's a giant waste on time. This one I should have rejected because she would not videocall with me. I kept going because she played her part very well and very convincing. It's a gamble if you don't make it clear on everything you want in advance. BTW, I think paying for Uber is ok, but I can pay after or I can order for her.