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01-25-23 15:53 #11581
Please take your meds
For God's sake, you really need to take your meds and stay on them.
Originally Posted by ChrisP
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01-25-23 15:50 #11580
Donnie didn't BAN anybody
I realize that Repubs like to use the "ban" word when talking about what Donnie the Dumbass did re China, but it absolutely was not a "ban". Originally Posted by Tiny12
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Donnie the Dumbass banned flights from mainland China but did not ban flights from Macau or Hong Kong. Only Repubs would be stupid enough to believe that somebody from, say, Hong Kong, would not have visited relatives in Wuhan before flying to the US from Hong Kong. Only Repubs would be stupid enough to assume that nobody in Hong Kong had visitors from Wuhan before flying to the US.
Donnie the Dumbass didn't "ban" Chinese folks from flying from Europe to the US either. Only a Repub would believe that nobody from mainland China could have been infected and flown from Europe to the US.
I'd post one of the thousands of sources from the internet to support my comments but supporters of Donnie the Dumbass would say that those are "fake news".
If Donnie the Dumbass really banned Chinese, he would have required every person of Chinese ancestry to present a negative COVID test before flying and would have required every Chinese to take another COVID test upon landing.
Of course, the whole thing was mute because COVID was already in the US when Donnie the Dumbass issued his "ban that wasn't a ban". Nothing in the world signals stupidity more than closing the barn door after all the horses have escaped and then lying about it.
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01-25-23 15:23 #11579Yeah, we shouldn't be teaching kids how to exercise their Second Amendment rights. We should be telling them they're trannies and cutting their dicks off. Get your priorities right, conservative bigots! Originally Posted by Spidy
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01-25-23 13:12 #11578Ahhh TDS Trump Devotion Syndrome clinical symptoms including: Originally Posted by ChrisP
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Extreme feeble mindedness.
No capacity to reason or for critical thinking.
Easily conned to subscribing for recurring deductions from their bank account for the privilege of being a sucker.
Believing his lies over easily demonstrated truth.
Thinks they are patriots while supporting the destruction of the electoral process to install their Demigod as dictator for life.
Thinks a guy who turned over his entire cabinet on a yearly and semi annual basis is a genius.
Agrees every new hire is only the best as that is all he hires until he fires them months later as they are losers and inept at their jobs.
Thinks Trump actually was a big achiever even though economically before Covid achieved a performance on a par with Obama but blowing out what was a contracting deficit.
Its incredible to think with all the evidence of Trump being a total loser their are still people who think Trump is a genius. I guess the only cure would be to lock them up with the other losers who participated in the capital riots. Pretty sure they have lost their devotion complex.
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01-25-23 10:19 #11577
American Child Soldiers Revisited
Gunmaker at Vegas gun trade show, exhibits rebranded semi-automatic rifle for children inspired by the AR-15 machine gun, commonly used in U.S. mass shootings. What sick machination is this now, you ask? Originally Posted by Tiny 12
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Weeks after 6-year-old shoots teacher, Vegas holds a gun show offering JR-15 rifles for kids
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...ifles-for-kids
AR-15 style rifle marketed for children showcased at Las Vegas gun convention: Despicable
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...2ka-story.html
Hey Tiny 12, it would seem apparently, that your American child soldiers, aren't really a joke after all, but just "good business", especially to those right-wing gunmakers, lobbyists and MTG gun-toting QAnon/Repub/MAGA types on the right.
Yep, American children are now..."just good gun business!"
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01-25-23 07:22 #11576
Links, please
Do you have any links for this mythical Trump ban on flights from China? And for his, what, 2020 Dem nominee opponents calling him "racist" for it? Originally Posted by ChrisP
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My memory is Trump's claim to be banning flights from China, which he didn't do, and singling out "China" as the place where by then hundreds if not thousands of cases were already entering the USA from Europe by way of flights from China stopping over in Europe en route to the USA had a twinge of deflection to the racist "Yellow Menace" bit in order to draw attention away from how he himself was key to creating Trump's Pandemic when he allowed the Chinese to lie about the spread of the virus for critical weeks if not months thanks to him pulling out the monitors.
Maybe that is what his Dem opponents were talking about. I mean, aside from the fact that, fully checked, his main and justifiably most feared Dem opponent, did not call Trump "racist" for that:
Speaking of his restriction on travel from China, I had (Joe) Biden calling me xenophobic. He called me a racist, because of the fact that he felt it was a racist thing to stop people from China coming in.
MOSTLY FALSE
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ump-xenophobi/
430,000 People Have Traveled From China to U.S. Since Coronavirus Surfaced.
There were 1,300 direct flights to 17 cities before President Trumps travel restrictions. Since then, nearly 40,000 Americans and other authorized travelers have made the trip, some this past week and many with spotty screening.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/u...trictions.html
Since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak of a mysterious pneumonialike illness to international health officials on New Years Eve, at least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after President Trump imposed restrictions on such travel, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries.
The bulk of the passengers, who were of multiple nationalities, arrived in January, at airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Seattle, Newark and Detroit. Thousands of them flew directly from Wuhan, the center of the coronavirus outbreak, as American public health officials were only beginning to assess the risks to the United States.
Flights continued this past week, the data show, with passengers traveling from Beijing to Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York, under rules that exempt Americans and some others from the clampdown that took effect on Feb. 2. In all, 279 flights from China have arrived in the United States since then, and screening procedures have been uneven, interviews show.
Mr. Trump has repeatedly suggested that his travel measures impeded the viruss spread in the United States. I do think we were very early, but I also think that we were very smart, because we stopped China, he said at a briefing on Tuesday, adding, That was probably the biggest decision we made so far. Last month, he said, Were the ones that kept China out of here.
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But the analysis of the flight and other data by The New York Times shows the travel measures, however effective, may have come too late to have kept China out, particularly in light of recent statements from health officials that as many as 25 percent of people infected with the virus may never show symptoms. Many infectious-disease experts suspect that the virus had been spreading undetected for weeks after the first American case was confirmed, in Washington State, on Jan. 20, and that it had continued to be introduced. In fact, no one knows when the virus first arrived in the United States.
During the first half of January, when Chinese officials were underplaying the severity of the outbreak, no travelers from China were screened for potential exposure to the virus. Health screening began in mid-January, but only for a number of travelers who had been in Wuhan and only at the airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York. By that time, about 4,000 people had already entered the United States directly from Wuhan, according to VariFlight, an aviation data company based in China. The measures were expanded to all passengers from China two weeks later.
In a statement on Friday, Hogan Gidley, a White House spokesman, described Mr. Trumps travel restrictions as a bold decisive action which medical professionals say will prove to have saved countless lives. The policy took effect, he said, at a time when the global health community did not yet know the level of transmission or asymptomatic spread.
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Trump administration officials have also said they received significant pushback about imposing the restrictions even when they did. At the time, the World Health Organization was not recommending travel restrictions, Chinese officials rebuffed them and some scientists questioned whether curtailing travel would do any good. Some Democrats in Congress said they could lead to discrimination.
In interviews, multiple travelers who arrived after the screening was expanded said they received only passing scrutiny, with minimal follow-up.
I was surprised at how lax the whole process was, said Andrew Wu, 31, who landed at Los Angeles International Airport on a flight from Beijing on March 10. The guy I spoke to read down a list of questions, and he didnt seem interested in checking out anything.
Understand the Situation in China
The Chinese government cast aside its restrictive zero Covid policy, which had set off mass protests that were a rare challenge to Communist Party leadership.
Rapid Spread: Since China abandoned its strict Covid rules, the intensity and magnitude of the countrys outbreak has remained largely a mystery. But a picture is emerging of the virus spreading like wildfire.
A Tense Lunar New Year: For millions of holiday travelers, the joy of finally seeing far-flung loved ones without the risk of getting caught in a lockdown is laced with anxiety.
Digital Finger-Pointing: The Communist Partys efforts to limit discord over its sudden zero Covid pivot are being challenged with increasing rancor on the internet.
Economic Challenges: Years of Covid lockdowns took a brutal toll on Chinese businesses. Now, the rapid spread of the virus after a chaotic reopening has deprived them of workers and customers.
Sabrina Fitch, 23, flew from China to Kennedy International Airport in New York on March 23. She and the 40 or so other passengers had their temperature taken twice while en route and were required to fill out forms about their travels and health, she said.
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Besides looking at our passports, they didnt question us like we normally are questioned, said Ms. Fitch, who had been teaching English in China. So it was kind of weird, because everyone expected the opposite, where you get a lot of questions. But once we filled out the little health form, no one really cared.
In January, before the broad screening was in place, there were over 1,300 direct passenger flights from China to the United States, according to VariFlight and two American firms, MyRadar and FlightAware. About 381,000 travelers flew directly from China to the United States that month, about a quarter of whom were American, according to data from the Department of Commerces International Trade Administration.
In addition, untold others arrived from China on itineraries that first stopped in another country. While actual passenger counts for indirect fliers were not available, Sofia Boza-Holman, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, said they represented about a quarter of travelers from China. The restrictions, she added, reduced all passengers from the country by about 99 percent.
Mr. Trump issued his first travel restrictions related to the virus on Jan. 31, one day after the World Health Organization declared the outbreak a global health emergency. In a presidential proclamation, he barred foreign nationals from entering the country if they had been in China during the prior two weeks. The order exempted American citizens, green-card holders and their noncitizen relatives exceptions roundly recognized as necessary to allow residents to return home and prevent families from being separated. It did not apply to flights from Hong Kong and Macau.
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About 60 percent of travelers on direct flights from China in February were not American citizens, according to the most recently available government data. Most of the flights were operated by Chinese airlines after American carriers halted theirs.
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President Trump with the health secretary, Alex M. Azar II, at a Covid-19 briefing last month.Credit...Al Drago for The New York Times.
At a news conference about the restrictions, Alex M. Azar II, the health secretary, repeatedly emphasized that the risk is low for Americans. He added, Our job is to work to keep that that way.
Got a confidential news tip?The New York Times would like to hear from readers who want to share messages and materials with our journalists. Learn more.
Health officials also announced an expansion of the screening beyond arrivals from Wuhan. Dr. Robert R. Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, explained that people would be screened for significant risk, as well as any evidence of symptoms. If there was no reason for additional examination, they would be allowed to complete their travel back to their home, where they then will be monitored by the local health departments in a self-monitoring situation in their home.
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The procedures called for screening to be conducted in empty sections of the airports, usually past customs areas. Passengers would line up and spend a minute or two having their temperature taken and being asked about their health and travel history. Those with a fever or self-reported symptoms like a cough would get a medical evaluation, and if they were thought to have been infected or exposed to the virus, they would be sent to a hospital where local health officials would take over.
Passengers would also be given information cards about the virus and symptoms. Later versions advised people to stay at home for two weeks.
In a statement on Thursday, the C.D.C. described the entry screening as part of a layered approach that could slow and reduce the spread of disease when used with other public health measures.
We cannot stop all introductions, the C.D.C. added, noting that the coronavirus pandemic was especially challenging due to asymptomatic and presymptomatic infections and an incubation period of up to two weeks.
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Separately, on Friday, the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement that the administrations measures were unprecedented and allowed the U.S. to stay ahead of the outbreak as it developed.
Passengers including Mr. Wu described a cursory screening process when they arrived in the United States.
Mr. Wu, who has had no symptoms and has not become ill, said he was told to stay inside for 14 days when he landed in Los Angeles. He said he received two reminder messages the next day by email and text, but no further follow-up.
Another traveler, Chandler Jurinka, said his experience on Feb. 29 had an even more haphazard feel. He flew from Beijing to Seattle, with stops in Tokyo and Vancouver.
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At the Seattle-Tacoma airport, he said, an immigration officer went through his documents and asked questions unrelated to the virus about his job and life in China. At no point did anyone take his temperature, he said.
He hands me my passport and forms and says, Oh, by the way, you havent been to Wuhan, have you? Mr. Jurinka said. And then he says, You dont have a fever, right?
Like others, he left the airport with a card that recommended two weeks of self-quarantine and a promise that someone would call to check up on him. He said he never got a call.
Other travelers also said the follow-up from local health departments was hit-or-miss. Some received only emails or texts.
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Jacinda Passmore, 23, a former English teacher in China who flew into Dallas on March 10, after a layover in Tokyo, got a thorough screening at the Dallas-Fort Worth airport. It took about 40 minutes, she said, before she was cleared for her flight home to Little Rock, Ark.
State health workers later dropped off thermometers at her house and insisted her entire family stay home for two weeks and provide updates on their condition.
They asked us every day: Have you stayed inside? Have you met anyone? Have you been quarantined? Ms. Passmore said. Theyre really nice about it. They said, If you need anything, we can go grocery-shopping for you.
Nineteen flights departed Wuhan in January for New York or San Francisco and the flights were largely full, according to VariFlight. For about 4,000 travelers, there was no enhanced screening.
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On Jan. 17, the federal government began screening travelers from Wuhan, but only 400 more passengers arrived on direct flights before Chinese authorities shut down the airport. Scott Liu, 56, a Wuhan native and a textile importer who lives in New York, caught the last commercial flight, on Jan. 22.
Mr. Liu had gone to Wuhan for the Spring Festival on Jan. 6, but decided to come back early as the outbreak worsened. At the Wuhan airport, staff checked his temperature. On the flight, he and other passengers filled a health declaration form, which included questions about symptoms like fever, cough or difficulty breathing.
After they arrived at J.F.K. in New York, the passengers were directed to go through a temperature checkpoint. It was very fast, he said. If your temperature is normal, they will just let you in.
Mr. Liu said no one asked him questions about his travel history or health, and he received a card with information about what to do if he developed symptoms. At the time, there were no instructions to isolate. Mr. Liu said he and his friends all decided to do so anyway.
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I stayed at home for almost 20 days, he said.
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A cargo plane charted by the U.S. State Department to evacuate Americans from Wuhan in February.Credit...Edward Wang/Via Reuters
About 800 passengers on five charter flights were later evacuated from Wuhan by the U.S. government and directed to military bases, where they waited out two weeks of quarantine.
The charter flights began on Jan. 29. Instagram posts from one showed C.D.C. officials in full protective gear on the plane and escorting passengers after landing.
One group of passengers was eventually flown to Omaha to be taken by bus to a National Guard camp for quarantine. Video showed them accompanied by a full police escort, with lights flashing, helicopters overhead and intersections blocked off along the way.
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01-25-23 05:07 #11575Good point. Some of our friends here continually dance around that. Yeah, Trump made some fuck ups during COVID. But he also did some things right. That was one of them. Originally Posted by ChrisP
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01-25-23 04:57 #11574So who has the most to win? Kamala Harris? Pete Buttigieg? Nah. My money says it was a protege of Tooms' hero, Elizabeth Warren. Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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‘Most influential voice’: Warren’s network spreads throughout Biden administration
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...tration-475653
She's thoroughly infiltrated the Biden Administration. And if she'll stab your man Bernie in the back, and she did, we damn well know she'll go after Biden. But Pocahontas wised up. That episode with Bernie didn't work out so well. So undoubtedly she's working in the shadows now.
If you think Biden is bad, just wait until we have a government run by Elizabeth Warren.
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01-25-23 04:49 #11573
Absolutely
One thing is certain with the person who posted the original and other members of the Moron Brigade. None of their posts ever contain real sources, just wild conjectures as you have so smartly pointed out. Originally Posted by Spidy
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Just like the "government documents" flap. The Moron Brigade tried to defend Donnie the Dumbass with all sorts of spurious arguments. And when less than 10% of the number of Donnie the Dumbass' documents turned up at President Biden's former offices and his home, they all started crowing. Again. Several morons on Yahoo even said that VPs weren't legally able to look at classified documents. Where they got that drivel is anybody's guess but FUX Snooze seems to be the (il) logical source. Now that former VP Mike "Hang Mike Pence" Pence has found classified documents in his possession, the Moron Brigade is strangely quiet. Or is it strange?
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01-25-23 00:53 #11572
What Now? Oh, Really...I beg to differ
Crass and indelicate as always!!! Dude, not exactly the kind of betting you want to be associated with, or maybe you do? (...kkkk). Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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But by all means, you do you. However I will refute your claims.
Well, since most Repubs are just such exemplary, pious, devout and righteous "Christians", and we all know the evidence bares it out, that these kind of vile assaults (as you've stated) mostly happens in the realms and hallowed halls of Church, one can only surmise the following.
These heinous acts, typically carried out in a act of betrayal of trust, from your so called arbiters of holiness, typically in the form clergymen, pastors, bishops, cardinals or even arch-cardinals at the top.
So it isn't hard to imagine that, not only are such unholy practices, carried out on the proverbial "choirboys/girls" and "alter-boys/girls", but no doubt, also on the general Sunday-school Bible class congregation as well. And who attends these Sunday-school Bible classes you ask? Why the righteous QAnon/Repubs of course.
I'm sure you can figure out the rest on your own, w/r to the unnatural completion of the circle-of-abuse and sexual misconduct, from the pious and "righteous-right", given the worldwide reach of the institution and front for "righteous" sexual-deviants, known as the church and its "righteous" minions.
Therefore definitely more like, 1K x 100K the rate, on the RIGHT more than on the left, given the influence of the church.
BTW, perhaps I'm just kidding...or I'm I? After all, you provide no evidence to backup your baseless right-wing claims.
PS: Is it any wonder Rep. Lauren Boebert Calls Separation of Church and State 'Junk' (Talk about doing the church's biding, or should I say pre-grooming? ...kkkk!)
https://people.com/politics/rep-laur...-church-state/
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01-24-23 20:49 #11571In the future, the mental illness known as Trump Derangement Syndrome will be studied intensely. Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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It allowed dem douches to claim that Trump was responsible for the virus reaching America despite the fact that he banned Chinese from coming to America from China in January 2020, while his democrat opponents were calling him "racist", hugging Chinamen in the streets, and demanding all travel restrictions be lifted.
Clearly, with the full flight schedule that the democrats wanted, the virus would have spread far more quickly in the USA, resulting in more deaths. That is simple, obvious logic. Yet their TDS-addled brains refuse to accept it.
It is a deep-seated psychiatric phenomenon, similar to the Dancing Plague of 1518.
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01-24-23 19:49 #11570The Trump Derangement Syndrome is strong in this one. Originally Posted by Xpartan
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You literally have videotape of Biden as VP, boasting about how he threatened to withhold a billion dollar loan from the US to Ukraine if they didn't fire the prosecutor who was investigating his corrupt son. Within a couple of hours, the prosecutor was gone.
That is open and clear corruption. The fact that he has not been indicted for it shows the level to which the DoJ is now a part of the corrupt globalist swamp.
We all know that if the same footage existed involving President Trump withholding US taxpayer money to force a foreign country to stop investigating one of his sons, it would be all over the fake news media every day and Merrick Garland, Adam Schiff or whichever Washington Jew is currently pulling the strings would have filed charges.
Just like Trump (or any non-RINO republican) would have been indicted for what Crooked Hillary did with her emails. An open and shut case, and she skated because. ? Because she is part of the Globohomo deep state establishment.
Claiming Hunter's corruption is nothing to do with Joe is moronic and ludicrous on its face. Hunter is a druggie dropout imbecile with no discernible skills or talents. Yet he was given high-paying no-work jobs on all kinds of Ukrainian and Chinese companies. Why? For access to his VP father, who altered US policy to fit his son / bagman's interests.
Finally, your foolish comment about Trump not starting any wars makes no sense, even by your own low standards of logic.
Putin took Crimea when Obama was president. For four years, Trump had him under control (as well as Kim Jong-un and the Chinese). Not a peep out of any of them.
Then as soon as Sleepy Joe is fraudulently installed and America is shamefully driven out of Afghanistan by the Taliban, Putin correctly senses weakness and invades Ukraine. Meanwhile Kim restarts his nuke tests, China starts threatening Taiwan, and the Saudis abandon the petrodollar (big news). Well done, Sleepy Joe!
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01-24-23 13:29 #11569
Hmmmmm so many with a motive to take this clown out
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bide...ging-president
So no 2nd stolen term for Jagoff Joe and the Junkie?
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01-24-23 07:54 #11568
Republican drag queen, George Santos
Ahh...Nope, I wasn't agreeing with your bias statement! I simply pointed out, that gay-life happens on both the left and right (be it parents or politicians), whereas you and your comrades seem to think, it only happens on the left. Originally Posted by Tiny 12
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Enter stage-left, as "Exhibit A", the lying sack of fraud, that is Republican drag queen, George Santos.
Once again...nope! Kidding or not, my issue, is with the Repub lying sack of fraud, that is George Santos. The fact that the dude happens to also like to dress in drag, is just bat-shit fodder for the taking, as it plays out in the days to come. Originally Posted by Tiny 12
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Meanwhile the conspiracy QAnon\Repubs loons, try to justify their war on "Drag Queen Story hour", all while trying to square the fact, they have a enemy combatant "Brazilian drag queen" in their rank-and-file.
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01-24-23 06:47 #11567
Self censorship alert
"I suspect we may be tangling with a topic that we shouldn't be debating here so I won't get too specific". Originally Posted by Tiny12
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Do you think discussing this issue is verboten for some odd reason?
"But yeah, things happen on the right and the left, absolutely".
Well, I'm willing to wager a huge sum.
Men raping little boys is happening at an exponentially higher rate on the left then on the right, like 1000 x or 10000 x the rate.
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