Seeking Arrangements

[Voodoo Jones]

Have any of you had bad experiences with girls who stay overnight? I've been scammed before and am paranoid a girl would take my watch, computer, phone, passport, etc when I was sleeping. I had a good date with a girl in Paris who then stayed overnight but I was worried she'the run off with my bag or something.

I spent a weekend with a SA woman and her friend at a hotel and then a AirBnB outside of the city. I had seen her once alone and 2 times with her friend before on an earlier trip. My advice is don't spend a night with someone you haven't seen at least twice and even then, I would be very careful with who I choose and make sure you get a good vibe. The smart women will realize they have much more to gain in the long term than a quick robbery. Keep your valuables in a safe. If there's none, at least hide your passport.

During that weekend, I made all the reservations, set up the transportation, and got copies of their IDs.

I'm actually going on another getaway weekend in February with someone I met last month. I already have all her info.

[GoingDumb]

Have any of you had bad experiences with girls who stay overnight? I've been scammed before and am paranoid a girl would take my watch, computer, phone, passport, etc when I was sleeping. I had a good date with a girl in Paris who then stayed overnight but I was worried she'the run off with my bag or something.

[Lusine99]

I used SA in London and Barcelona znd France successfully. A few times I met with a girl for dinner and intimacy just flowed. No talk of price I just took them on trips or helped with rent. One girl was a regular thing. Great girl 300 GBP for 4 hours drinking etc. Over months. I met a girl who was just on there for experiences not money. Far too gorgeous for words. Ended up living together for 15 months. She went insane but that's besides the point. Since its been very money orientated. A few in Barcelona beautiful, but straight up swx workers. But ask for 250 to 300 euros vs 500 plus pounds in London. Met a few for dinner, maybe 4, who didn't look like their pictures so politely said we shall meet up again perhaps. Was scammed at the beginning for gas money, visas etc. And learned my lesson. A lot are very to the point younger ones can be a bit beguiled an unsure what they want. Some flexible. Be very polite or they can easily get you permanently banned. Expect to send out 100 messages and get 20 to 30 responses since they get so many messages. It's quick to decipher who is pleasant and not and quickly switch to WhatsApp. Telegram as mentioned is mostly for girls who rope you in and then only want to sell pics etc. I've had some really good experiences mostly. Just beware of the ones asking for money ranging from 150 to 500 just for a coffee or dinner. I expect they take it and never intend to see you again. Likewise there are many girls who ask you to send them money or suchlike to see "if you are real". Lots of scammers. Lots of genuine SBs looking for a 2 k a month allowance and to be treated like a princess, alot of undecided thrillseekers, and many working girls. Its addictive and exciting for sure. One thing I did notice is that in Barcelona a large proportion are very real, very beautiful girls offering straight up sex services in comparison to London where the girls can choose for thousands of men offering them the world.

You can tell alot from a bio. The biggest hurdle is getting a response, so I tend to follow up and then finally do.

I tried secret benefits, but much fewer SBs an extortionate price structure and mostly bots.

[Lusine99]

I used SA in London, Barcelona and France mostly successfully. A few times I met with a girl for dinner and intimacy just flowed. No talk of price I just took them on trips or helped with rent. One girl was a regular thing. Great girl 300 GBP for 4 hours drinking etc. Over months. I met a girl who was just on there for experiences not money. Far too gorgeous for words. Ended up living together for 15 months. She went insane but that's besides the point. Since its been very money orientated. A few in Barcelona beautiful, but straight up swx workers. But ask for 250 to 300 euros vs 500 plus pounds in London. Met a few for dinner, maybe 4, who didn't look like their pictures so politely said we shall meet up again perhaps. Was scammed at the beginning for gas money, visas etc. And learned my lesson. A lot are very to the point younger ones can be a bit beguiled an unsure what they want. Some flexible. Be very polite or they can easily get you permanently banned. Expect to send out 100 messages and get 20 to 30 responses at nost since they get so many messages. It's quick to decipher who is pleasant and not and quickly switch to WhatsApp. Telegram as mentioned is mostly for girls who rope you in and then only want to sell pics etc. I've had some really good experiences mostly. Just beware of the ones asking for money ranging from 150 to 500 just for a coffee or dinner. This is a new tact. I expect they take it and never intend to see you again. Likewise there are many girls who ask you to send them money or suchlike to see "if you are real" because rhey have had so many bad experiences with time wasters etx. Lots of scammers. Some genuine SBs looking for a 3 k a month allowance and to be treated like a princess, some undecided thrillseekers, and many working girls. Its addictive and exciting for sure. Even am friends with a few. One thing I did notice is that in Barcelona a large proportion are very real, very beautiful girls offering straight up sex services in comparison to London where the girls can choose for thousands of men offering them the world.

You can tell alot from a bio. The biggest hurdle is getting a response, and can tell if they haven't read your first, so I tend to follow up and then finally do get a response.

I tried secret benefits, but much fewer SBs an extortionate price structure and mostly bots. Got a refund even.

Anyway. My experiences.

[Steve 9696]

Another thing I have noticed is how comfortable they are handling a cock. I recently acquired a new dating site girl uni girl. She said she has had 4 partners, she is 26. There is something about the way she moves my cock that tell me she really isn't experienced. She's never sure exactly how to touch it. Compare that to our experienced SBs, university dropouts and Asian massage ladies. They can all make things very effectively.

It's so fun when you find a fresher. Even if her BJ isn't great there is something about being with them as they discover more of their sexuality. I had a Viet coed in NYC a couple years ago. Total babe I'm the woods. Had had s serious boyfriend for like five years (she was 23) and only two other guys. The best part was when I ate her pussy and she really got off over s twenty minute period or so (I was enjoying her enjoying) she said — and I quote:

Wow. I guess I've never had that done properly before. That was really something!

THAT is truly satisfying. Plus they often coach up really fast. I've def shown many a girl how to suck balls or do harmonica on the first date and damn their BJ was 1000% better in no time.

[The Cane]

When you ask a woman how many sex partners she has had, you can add a 0 to the number, and that gives you a true number. With men, take away a 0 at the end, they are usually braggards and exaggerate the number of women they have bedded.

That if you're talking to a monger, especially some of them on this board, then they're probably telling the truth LOL! A very long time ago I used to keep count, but then I stopped as I felt that was just plain silly. So just suffice it to say so many that I don't even know how many hahaha! Maybe even add a 0 like for a women LOLOLOL! I do know this much. I've fucked more hot girls in the ass than most men will get even pussy. And I'm talking about over the course of their entire lifetimes! Now that's the honest to goodness truth!

[AsianPursuits]

LOL. True that.

But this one had a certain surprising look when I made some sex moves. Well, maybe she faked that.

But the way her pussy felt around my dick (Bareback) for over 20/30 minutes. She can't fake that. Relatively fresh hole.

Another thing I have noticed is how comfortable they are handling a cock. I recently acquired a new dating site girl uni girl. She said she has had 4 partners, she is 26. There is something about the way she moves my cock that tell me she really isn't experienced. She's never sure exactly how to touch it. Compare that to our experienced SBs, university dropouts and Asian massage ladies. They can all make things very effectively.

[DramaFree11]

Telegram, by itself, is not a problem in Europe.

4 out of 8 SB girls of mine used Telegram to communicate. They all turned out to be legit girls.

I have had girls ask me Mexico and the states to use Telegram. A definite Hell no, not debatable.

I simply tell the girls, I have no time for any other Social Media. If they are real and they are interested, they will contact me either Instant Messenger or WhatsApp, in Mexico.

[Gfefan]

LOL. True that.

But this one had a certain surprising look when I made some sex moves. Well, maybe she faked that.

But the way her pussy felt around my dick (Bareback) for over 20/30 minutes. She can't fake that. Relatively fresh hole.

When you ask a woman how many sex partners she has had, you can add a 0 to the number, and that gives you a true number. With men, take away a 0 at the end, they are usually braggards and exaggerate the number of women they have bedded.

[Gfefan]

Telegram, by itself, is not a problem in Europe.

4 out of 8 SB girls of mine used Telegram to communicate. They all turned out to be legit girls.

Thanks for input. I've worked on about dozens for 8 day period (some double booked to cover for ghosting situation), but I'm just ticked off with all this telegram shit every other girl pulling off.

Those who play in European market, is telegram really first mode of contact method rather than Whatsapp?

I never "repeat: never" hooked up with anyone using telegram as it's always crypto shit, hooker, or buy my photo / video B.S. Whenever conversation went to teleg, and I stopped using it for atleast 2+ years ago, but every other girl in BCN want to talk on telegram.

For about 16-18 contacts I mined using Whatsapp, I had to put my foot down with at least 10 of them for not using telegram. One even admitted that her BF checks Whatsapp msgs so she wanted to keep SA separate (LOL. Which tells me she is only willing to come to hotel and I usually don't do SA for direct in-call).

The other prevailing group I came across is Russians. I'm 50-50 on weather it's pro or non-pro and will vet them over tapas / drinks in person.

Looking forward for Spanish SA exploration as next month after that is Germany SA (where I also never used SA before)!

[Steve 9696]

Yes. When I was in Spain a lot of people used Telegram. The same way nobody in the states uses WhatsApp but everyone in Latin America does, telegram is pretty big in Spain.

Yeah I confirm same. My London girl Sue was a first time SB. She wouldn't give me her phone number but suggested Telegram. And she was just a regular girl.

[AmericanPi]

Yes. When I was in Spain a lot of people used Telegram. The same way nobody in the states uses WhatsApp but everyone in Latin America does, telegram is pretty big in Spain.

Thanks for input. I've worked on about dozens for 8 day period (some double booked to cover for ghosting situation), but I'm just ticked off with all this telegram shit every other girl pulling off.

Those who play in European market, is telegram really first mode of contact method rather than Whatsapp?

I never "repeat: never" hooked up with anyone using telegram as it's always crypto shit, hooker, or buy my photo / video B.S. Whenever conversation went to teleg, and I stopped using it for atleast 2+ years ago, but every other girl in BCN want to talk on telegram.

For about 16-18 contacts I mined using Whatsapp, I had to put my foot down with at least 10 of them for not using telegram. One even admitted that her BF checks Whatsapp msgs so she wanted to keep SA separate (LOL. Which tells me she is only willing to come to hotel and I usually don't do SA for direct in-call).

The other prevailing group I came across is Russians. I'm 50-50 on weather it's pro or non-pro and will vet them over tapas / drinks in person.

Looking forward for Spanish SA exploration as next month after that is Germany SA (where I also never used SA before)!

[AsianPursuits]

Thanks for input. I've worked on about dozens for 8 day period (some double booked to cover for ghosting situation), but I'm just ticked off with all this telegram shit every other girl pulling off.

Those who play in European market, is telegram really first mode of contact method rather than Whatsapp?

Different cities and countries develop trends.

In 2019 I had a great SB hookup in Rome. Girl only ever used Telegram and she was 100% legit, well except for her DD size enhanced boobs. She met me as planned after her work on the Friday, stayed until I saw her off to work Monday morning. Just had to search her profile again and reminisce. She's still active in Rome, lucky people.

I think for your methodology you need some better questions up front. Look for genuine considered questions that are in the context of your discussion. I find Scammer and crypto go down a standard path.

Unfortunately it's like hunting for gems. You have to shift some dirt to find the gems. Just get better at that sifting.

[Mush Elvii]

Best luck. BCN is a big market. Start early. Which you have.

Some girls ask exorbitant. I had a few asking me 500 EUR for a dinner only. Ghosted them. Then, some spoke about per hour. Pros. Let them slide away.

Eventually, you find gems.

Also, pay attention to local age of consent. I had a 20 why. O when she showed up, I politely asked to verify her ID. Only then took her to my place.

She has had sex with her BF only few times before she met me. She thought sex lasts only few minutes. When we went at it for 20/30 minutes of pounding, she had many orgasms. And at some point started to beg me for more. She told me she never thought sex can be so good.

Bottomline: there are gems in Europe. Find them. Keep them.

Unlike US, which has more crazy women than I expected, Europe is much better.

Thanks for input. I've worked on about dozens for 8 day period (some double booked to cover for ghosting situation), but I'm just ticked off with all this telegram shit every other girl pulling off.

Those who play in European market, is telegram really first mode of contact method rather than Whatsapp?

I never "repeat: never" hooked up with anyone using telegram as it's always crypto shit, hooker, or buy my photo / video B.S. Whenever conversation went to teleg, and I stopped using it for atleast 2+ years ago, but every other girl in BCN want to talk on telegram.

For about 16-18 contacts I mined using Whatsapp, I had to put my foot down with at least 10 of them for not using telegram. One even admitted that her BF checks Whatsapp msgs so she wanted to keep SA separate (LOL. Which tells me she is only willing to come to hotel and I usually don't do SA for direct in-call).

The other prevailing group I came across is Russians. I'm 50-50 on weather it's pro or non-pro and will vet them over tapas / drinks in person.

Looking forward for Spanish SA exploration as next month after that is Germany SA (where I also never used SA before)!

[Steve 9696]

So after seeing all three girls, Krystal was the clear winner by a mile. Unfortunately I had already booked Alexa again for Wed and I didn't want to cancel on her. I mean this is a bunch of coin for these girls. So I went ahead with that date. It was OK but nothing to write home about -- so I won't.

But my Thursday date with Krystal is one of my all time favorites. She's a keeper. I've only had two girls before who I would fly to London and skip my RoGirls. Thifany and Valentina. Krystal is the first stateside girl I would do that with. Plus I could fly her to lame venues like Detroit. I think she'd be down.

We had agreed $400 as allowance a month or so ago. But I had just received my yearly bonus. So I wrote her about exactly how I wanted the date to go (room time, dinner / party time, room time) and no rush and I want to give her $600. She is totally worth more than that for the amount of time we spend together. And of course she was down with that. And OMFG it was so great. No clock watching. No money discussion. Just great.

So we start by meeting at my hotel and head straight to the room. She was actually about 30 minutes late which offered me a new experience. As I am sipping my Gin and Tonic in the lounge, a middle aged dude approaches and starts chatting me up. We chat amicably for a few minutes, but I start to wonder what his game is. Then he says that I am a handsome and sensitive man and asks for my number! Hahaha! That's a fucking first! LOL.

So Krystal arrives and she's even prettier than I remember. She just breezes in and lights up the place with her bubbly confidence. She has on a super short skirt, so short that it doesn't even come past her jacket. And a "diamond" choker. She is devastating. She is the best looking girl in the hotel and casino by a country mile.

Honestly, just walking to the room I feel like a million bucks. She's my girl and everyone else can just stand and drool!

So we head to the room and pour some Rose. Just get on the bed together and drink and chat. So comfortable. Eventually there is soft kissing, turning to passionate DFK and my hand down between her thighs, where I discover her bad-girl black lace panties have a large hole and provide some nice pussy access.

Down I go for some DATY with some nice neck sucking (she loves this) and titty sucking (her nipples get nicely erect) on the way. Then DATY, at first through the hole, but shortly we lose her panties and I give her some rip roaring DATY including Gspot fingering of course!

Her pussy is super wet and juicy. Her being a non-pro, it's not excessively washed clean of all smell. It has that perfect young girl pussy smell and when I drive my tongue fully inside there is even more awesome sauce!

We swap it up and she starts some very good BJ. She doesn't really lick as much as I like, but I hesitate to direct her as her in and out is great and sloppy and her lips have just enough black girl in her to make them a joy to watch! Reminds me of Thifany actually. Watching the BJ is a highlight.

She is not shy and she likes to talk dirty. "Do you want to fuck me baby? I want that big dick inside me. " She does this pixie cartoon type of voice. I am not usually a fan of this showmanship but she pulls it off. And yes baby I will now fuck you. Thank you for asking!

We start in cowgirl and boy is she ready to ride. She does all variety of grinding and in and out and chest to chest and fully upright. It's really good but I have enormous stamina given the "hard" week. I do like sometimes to just make it really hard, push as deep as it will go and let her use me as her fuck buddy.

This apparently works as she cums two times spaced about 5 minutes apart. She's super vocal - "oh fuck baby. Shit shit shit. Fuck fuck oh my God I am cumming". It seems a bit made up, but she is dripping wet and the second one I felt a couple light pussy clamps so she's definitely having a good time. And fuck she looks great up there riding, perfect see cups bouncing, when I am not kneading the fuck out of them.

We swap over to Mish with Plenty of DFK and neck sucking while I fuck her deep. She's left on her heels and diamond choker which just adds to it all. And she is holding her heels with her hands on either side of my head. Super deep. Getting a boner writing this!

At some point I am exhausted and we call it and I ask her to finish me by mouth. "Of course baby!" And she launches into some epic BBBJ with CIM and swallow. I love it when they swallow with a smile. Like it's yummy. I did drink my pineapple juice so maybe it was!

We rest a bit in each other's arms. Actually I think we both fell asleep for a bit. This is the unrushed part and I love it. We shower together and get dressed and head off for dinner and nightlife. I had told her earlier that I had a surprise for her but she doesn't know what.

As we are exiting the hotel, I detour her into the Swarovski crystal shop. I had scoped it out beforehand and knew virtually everything was under $300 and honestly having just gotten a very large bonus and being with this goddess I was super happy to play Real Sugar Daddy and OMG she was over the moon. We jointly picked out an amazing "diamond" necklace with matching earrings. Cost: $249. Result: Priceless!

So we bounce to our Uber, Krystal wearing her new bling, and head to dinner. We are headed to a vibey place called Sake Rok. But when we arrive they say they closed at 10. Boo. But we find another sushi place inside the NYNY hotel and it is super good. Just having dinner with her is a dream. Fuck I could look at her all day.

After dinner, we bounce to Skyfall, a rooftop bar on the 64th floor of the Delano. It's 11:15 and they close at midnight but what the heck. Highly recommended. A view to die for. We go out on the heated patio and just snuggle and drink. All of Vegas spread at the king's feet. LOL. (we find out later it's a private area we were supposed to pay for but hey we got it free!

As midnight arrives we make it back to the hotel and pretty much crash -- fully clothed on the bed in each other's arms.

We are both fucking wiped out from alot of food and drink and we doze off. At various times I wake up or she stirs too and I have these very conflicted thoughts:

I am fucking wiped. It would feel so good to just sleep. I probably can't cum anyhow. I should just call it a night and let sleep take me.

Dude you fucking pansy. You have one more chance to fuck the hottest girl in Vegas. What the fuck are you thinking!

And these go back and forth in my head as I variously sleep and wake for another hour or so.

Finally, reason prevails and I lean over and kiss her lightly on the cheeks. She stirs but clearly is also super sleepy and considering whether to do it again or not. Well awesome girlfriend that she is, she also makes the right decision and swings her leg over me and gets on top and then rises up to fully clothed cowgirl and starts grinding away. I oblige by pushing my now mostly hard dick firmly against her pussy. OK it's on!

Round two is much like round one. But this time after I DATY for a while, she wants me to fuck her, but I can tell I am not hard enough even tho she's working me by hand. In fact you know when your ball sack is like super droopy and you know you are miles away from cumming? That was me. Mr Floppy Ballsack. So I was super worried.

I think she would have preferred to skip the BJ but I tell her I need a little help by mouth and she cheerfully obliges. Fuck she's good at that and I get good and hard. But Mr Floppy Sack persists and I remain worried about completion (which as you know is a self fulfilling prophecy!

So she rides cowgirl a long time and gets off again -- she always finishes in cowgirl -- then I mount up in Mish and start some rhythmic pounding. I actually try out the Andy move and put a pillow under her butt and fuck on my knees leaning back. I do it waaaay better this time than I did with Alexa and I must say the visual of me driving my dick in and out of this goddess is compelling! Thanks Andy! Plus she is strumming her clit good and enjoying being on the bottom.

Eventually though I feel like I might get soft so I move back into traditional Mish and start a very rhythmic pounding again. She starts doing a lot of dirty talk which I usually find off putting. But instead it's really distracting and sexy in a good way and I start to feel the slow build. WTF?

During all the stream of dirty talk -- "oooh fuck me baby. Just like that. Fuck my tight pussy with your big dick" - she throws in "Fuck me Daddy!" OMG I just about laughed out loud but I love her zest for making an experience authentic!

Again strangely the dirty talk is working and I am using my trick of not focusing on my dick. I'm looking at her lips. And her slight bunny teeth. That tendon in her neck that is straining sexily. And.

Wham. We get it done! I am more surprised than anyone! She's a fucking magician and I tell her so.

Now we snuggle back together all naked and exhausted and start dosing again. No rush! And at some point I feel her rouse and she's taking off her necklaces to the bedside table. She's sleeping over!

And sure enough we cuddle and spoon and sleep till my alarm hits at 6 AM. She just sleeps on.

As I leave, she rouses a bit when I give her a kiss or two and we say goodbye. Wow! What a girl and what a night! To be repeated for sure. It's just a question of when and where.

P.S. Even though I end this report planning to repeat with Krystal after some back and forth she is in the wind. But a year later, I was going to Miami and hit up Alexa "want to spend the weekend in Miami" thinking I'd get a sure WTF? But she was down. Still one of the best weekends of my life. And then I saw her last year in Vegas for three epics nights and 6 bottles of wine! And any time I want I can see her in Vegas -- we are solid. And she's an amazing human to boot. I think the world of her. So Seeking can deliver on so many levels.