American Politics

[Spidy]

The part about Democratic presidents sending right wing young men to die in foreign wars, while depriving them of miniature AR's during childhood so theyd be less likely to survive combat. That was semi satirical.

Yeah, Okay! And yet I felt, you said it with such conviction!

Although I can make a case that there would have been no American involvement in World War I, and no WW II, Korean or Vietnam wars if Democratic administrations had made different decisions. It's a weak case, but still much, much stronger than Tooms' argument that Republican presidents are responsible for most recessions.

I've notice how you love to dabble in revisionist history. If that's your thing then by all means, knock yourself out, playing "what-if's". To some it my prove interesting, if not entertaining to read, at the very least.

If you get bored with us "pee-ONS" here at ISG, you could always compare your "what-if's" with what ChatGPT might write.

Just a thought!

[Chris P]

the chart on the link has "Firearms, type not stated" as the 2nd most causes of death at 4,740, behind "Handguns" at 6,012. Wonder what that could be, such a big omission? Perhaps, I'll just fill the void with my own data and assume it's from all those "kiddy friendly" AR-15's assault rifles, sniper-rifles, high-powered rifles, bazookas and grenade launchers, in the burbs?

The problem is that "your own data" is a bunch of leftist horseshit.

Handguns are 6000, rifles are 477. About 13 to 1. It stands to reason that "firearms, type not stated" (probably mostly the huge number of gang-related urban ghetto shootings whether neither the perp nor the weapon is ever found) would follow approximately the same ratio.

So about 4400 to 400, to err in your favor. For a total of over 10,000 handgun deaths and fewer than 1000 rifles.

[Chris P]

A ban, by definition, presumes....

Stop hitting yourself.

[Spidy]

I refer you to Elvis's excellent recent post on the matter, detailing how few rifles are used in violent crime by comparison with handguns and knives.

I'll also refer you back to that chart, and the one (1) big gaping hole in that chart and the fact "statista.com" is not even a US based or US gov't organization for Pete's sake and are located in Germany, using 3rd party data from non-US governmental sources.

Its no accident and oddly enough, the chart on the link has "Firearms, type not stated" as the 2nd most causes of death at 4,740, behind "Handguns" at 6,012. Wonder what that could be, such a big omission? Perhaps, I'll just fill the void with my own data and assume it's from all those "kiddy friendly" AR-15's assault rifles, sniper-rifles, high-powered rifles, bazookas and grenade launchers, in the burbs? So by my account (if I am even to believe said chart) AR-15's in the burbs are not that far behind, the handguns.

Of course, the democrat voter base are the ones using those handguns and knives, which is why they and their allied fake news and corrupt alphabet agencies only attack rural and suburban AR-15 owners.

Right! Because of course, no self-respecting QAnon/Repub/MAGA/Trumpster insurrectionist would be seen with a "handgun".

Oh no, when we Repubs "kill it", we use our feet, hands, blunt objects, flagpoles, fire extinguishers, mental railing pipes, pipe-bombs and a cache of military grade assault-rifles nearby.

And when all else fails we use the "Amber Herd gambit". Lots of fecal matter and urine on wall and desks. Yeah, the ugly pride of the Repub/MAGA voting base! But I digress!

So if I now use the chart again and include the other weapons (more like used by people in the burbs/rural US and judging by our MAGA insurrectionists, ie. feet, hands, blunt objects, flagpoles ...etc), I will refer you back to using the chart to add the following:

- "Personal Weapons" at 461, plus "Rifles" at 477, "Blunt Objects" at 243, "Firearms, type not stated" at 4,740, bring the grand total to 5,921 homicides in the burbs/rural US.

By all accounts I'd say it's pretty even. City Slickers 6,012 vs. The Burbs/Country Folk at 5,921!

[Tiny 12]

Hmmm...does that make your last statement quarter-satirical?

And which half/part of your last post to me, was it, that was satirical, exactly?

The part about Democratic presidents sending right wing young men to die in foreign wars, while depriving them of miniature AR's during childhood so they’d be less likely to survive combat. That was semi satirical. Although I can make a case that there would have been no American involvement in World War I, and no WW II, Korean or Vietnam wars if Democratic administrations had made different decisions. It's a weak case, but still much, much stronger than Tooms' argument that Republican presidents are responsible for most recessions.

[Tiny 12]

More truth coming out. USA is a free speech democracy??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD6BAX_IGHg

That was very educational for me. After seeing that I don't know why anyone would criticize McCarthy for removing Swalwell and Schiff from the intelligence committee. And yes, if Trump's views about Russia predominated in the Washington establishment instead of the neocon's, I don't think there would be a war in Ukraine right now.

I'm not a fan of Dore though. His favored economic policies, which for some strange reason he feels compelled to relate to Russiagate at the end of the video, would make for a much less prosperous and weaker America.

[Elvis 2008]

Did you guys notice when the lab leak theory came into being? It was just after Trump was out of office around April 2021. There were a slew of articles and people talking about where Covid originated from, and I remember hearing a guy named Josh Rogin of the Washington Post on the Joe Rogan show spewing out information about the Wuhan lab and Fauci I had not heard before. It was like some billionaire somewhere said, "Okay, we can trash the naturally occurring Covid theory and now tell people the truth. " And anyone who listened to this information was like Jon Stewart, ranting about how dumb anyone was to believe otherwise.

And now it looks like some billionaire has given the okay on talking crap about the Covid vaccine:

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/stat...73558155165697

Joe Scarborough was "knocked down" for months / weeks after getting the Covid booster, and his wife goes along with it.

Then you have Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, admitting he was wrong about the vaccine.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...doesnt-get-why

It is not as if I did not anticipate this but I though it would happen in 2024 when the legal immunity drug makers have with the vaccine is over.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covi...n-lawsuit.html

What happens next? Well, the vaccines are going to be withdrawn faster than any product in human history once that immunity expires. There might be some 200 page document that a person could sign if they wanted the vaccine going forward but given the drug companies have to be honest about the side effects of the vaccine in said document, I would bet it is more likely than not it will not be offered. The safer course is just to say the vaccines do not work against the newer variants and pull them.

The one thing I can say for certain is with these never mind Democrats it will not bother them in the least. They still believe Russiagate was real; they believe in the naturally occurring Covid theory and that if Hiliary would have been president versus Trump, we would have had no Covid deaths.

So the Covid vaccine may actually be a bigger health crisis than Covid itself but never mind.

[PVMonger]

I didn't say Trump banned all flights from China. There were many American citizens and green card holders in China whom he had no right to ban from returning home. (Can you imagine the frothing, unhinged meltdown of the democrats, the fake news media, and the leftist judiciary if he had tried to ban Americans from reaching their own country?) However, he did ban non-citizens and non-residents from flying from China, which greatly reduced numbers and reduced the early spread of the virus.

The ban was made official on January 31st. Later the same day, Biden made a speech accusing Trump of "hysterical xenophobia", and he repeated the line in a tweet the following day.

The democrats wanted completely open travel from China. The fact that you leftists now try to rewrite history is testament to how far you have strayed from empirical, factual reality. Men are women. Biden is mentally competent. The BLM / antifa riots were "fiery but peaceful". The border is secure. Mass mail-in voting is the most secure form of election. The democrats supported the China travel ban.

No wonder you had to create the phrase "my truth" instead of "the truth".

A "ban" presumes "all". Period. If a city "bans" smoking in public places, it means all public places, not just some of them. If a state "bans" abortions without exceptions, it means all abortions, not just some of them.

What you want to do is have your cake and eat it too.

And Donnie the Dumbass absolutely did not ban "all non-citizens and non-residents from flying from China". That's because the "ban" was only for non-USA Citizens who had been in China within the past 14 days and were not the immediate family member of USA Citizens or / and permanent residents. That means that a Chinese non-US-citizen who had been to China 15 days before was good to go. The "ban" also did not include Hong Kong or Macau. I realize that you don't believe that either one of those places are part of China. I also realize that you believe that nobody in either place ever could have had contact with anybody who could have been in Wuhan. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...el-bans-china/.

Furthermore, COVID was present in the US long before Donnie the Dumbass issued his "ban that wasn't a ban". https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...dy-2021-06-15/ But I know that facts won't stop you from spreading lies.

We also know that you absolutely hate anybody who is LGBTQ. We know that because of your use of the term "globohomo" quite often. You are entitled to your opinion but your "opinion" is just that. An "opinion". Because denying something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If it did, Donnie the Dumbass would have never existed.

[PVMonger]

Chris never said any of that. He clearly said the Trump Administration banned "Chinese from coming to America from China. " He never said "Donnie the Dumbass "banned" all flights from China to the USA and / or that he "banned" all Chinese from entering the US." Furthermore, I don't see where Chris ever said that Biden called Trump a racist. I believe he did say some Democrats have called Trump a racist, and that's true.

You gentlemen are guilty of what Tooms is accusing us of. And yes Tooms, I have on several occasions exaggerated some of your more ridiculous points to make them even more ridiculous. I can't recall having done that to PVMonger or anyone else here though. But Chris, to my knowledge, isn't an offender.

And PVMonger, yeah, we get it. Flights from Hong Kong and Macau weren't banned. And Americans were allowed to return from China directly to the USA, although they were subject to tests and quarantines. What did you want to do, leave them stranded in China?

A ban, by definition, presumes "all". For instance, if a city bans smoking in public places, that means "all public places", not "some public places but not others". If a school district bans a book in schools, if means "all schools", not "some schools but not others". If a state bans abortion without any exceptions, it means "all abortions", not "some abortions".

So while Chrissie didn't specifically say all, he didn't have to. A "ban" means "all". Period.

And Hong Kong and Macau are part of China, are they not?

[Elvis 2008]

The Petrodollar is a myth. Always has been.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douglas...h=36edc83f6a14

https://youtu.be/ICSdZbEMZd0

Yeah, Peter Zeihan has done much on this, and for all Saddam Hussein's hatred of America, he kept his cash in American $100 bills. The USA will be a reserve currency for all of our lifetimes. There really is no replacement for it. People think the Euro is solid but the banks in Europe are worse than here. China prints up money like no tomorrow, and they are going to be in a world of hurt in the next decade. The dollar has weakened a ton in the last few months, and I actually see it getting stronger going forward.

[Chris P]

I'm not a fan of the Iranian regime, and sure as hell wish Russia had not gone into Ukraine. But I believe the USA made a big mistake in confiscating the dollar reserves of both countries. That's giving China, Saudi Arabia, and other countries second thoughts about holding lots of dollars.
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Yes. It is indicative of how incompetent and power-drunk the Washington deep state has become. The neutrality of financial institutions was always sacrosanct even during times of war.

These clowns think they have pulled a fast one by stealing some of Russia's dollar reserves. What they have actually done is ensure the collapse of America's dominant position in the global economy.

[Chris P]

https://nypost.com/2023/01/27/colora...-loses-appeal/

We are all very familiar with the talking point pushed ad nauseum in the fake news media that Twitter, Facebook and Google are completely within their rights to deny their services to anyone for any reason because "they are private companies".

Never mind the fact that they constitute the modern-day public square and that the Supreme Court previously enforced First Amendment rights in a similar case (Marsh v Alabama).

According to dems, fake news, and leftist judiciary, they are private companies, which overrides everything. They don't need to adhere to the First Amendment and can block people from publishing on their platform for whatever reason they like.

However, "muh private company" doesn't matter when the people to whom you are denying service are an approved globohomo cause, as in this baker who has just lost his case for refusing to bake a trannycake.

Unlike those who are banned on Twitter / Facebook / Youtube, there are plenty of equal alternative businesses at which the trannies could have had their cake made. But of course, globohomo is using it to destroy the baker in question, and anyone else who questions their faggot / tranny / feminist / open border / anti-Christian / anti-white agenda.

In fact, this case is actually worse than merely denial of service. It is compelled speech. The leftists are telling this man that mere silent acquiescence is no longer acceptable: he must create a product glorifying and promoting trannies and faggots.

The more astute among you will begin to see that all this talk of "ideology" and "rules-based order" is horseshit. In reality, it is whatever benefits the Washington globohomo deep state.

Big Tech bans rightwingers? Fine, because globohomo doesn't like rightwingers. They are private companies.

Baker bans trannies and faggots? REEEEEEEE! Shut it down! Destroy him!

This can be seen more broadly too. The fake news has been screeching about the utter inviolability of post-Cold War borders as an excuse for further destroying the American economy and impoverishing Americans by sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine, most of which is stolen on arrival. You can't change borders: it's the "rules based order"!

And yet America itself pushed, funded and promoted the changing of Serbia's borders just a few years ago, unilaterally declaring that Kosovo was an independent state. This is because Serbia is a traditional ally of Russia. No "rules based order" for them!

And then of course the matter of Israel, which refuses even to define its borders. But you absolutely, absolutely must never, ever talk about that, or you'll end up like Kanye West. Shut up and watch CNN, goyim!

[Chris P]

More truth coming out. USA is a free speech democracy??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD6BAX_IGHg

Yup.

Jimmy Dore is a good guy. An honest, principled leftist. Pity there are so few of them about these days.

Russiagate was an absolute fake hoax, without a kernel of truth. We cannot be a serious country until there are consequences for the politicians, fake news media organisations, and corrupt Washington deep state alphabet agencies that pushed it.

[Chris P]

Yes, do tell? How many?

I refer you to Elvis's excellent recent post on the matter, detailing how few rifles are used in violent crime by comparison with handguns and knives.

Of course, the democrat voter base are the ones using those handguns and knives, which is why they and their allied fake news and corrupt alphabet agencies only attack rural and suburban AR-15 owners.

[Chris P]

The Petrodollar is a myth. Always has been.

Saudi and other OPEC countries only accept US dollars for their oil. Therefore any countries that want to buy that oil have to convert their currencies into dollars first. That is fact.

It is so important to the maintenance of US dominance that the US overthrew the regimes of Saddam and Gaddafi when they were about to start selling their countries' oil in non-dollar currencies.

If you want to call that a "myth", you are not very well-informed.