Angeles City

[JusRide]

Just BF a girl at DH a few wees ago I believe on a Wednesday and she mentioned that the next day they had dance performance so they had to stay until 9 pm after the performance even if they're BF.

Returned last week Wednesday, and BF her and her co-worker (roommate) for a great 3's. I made sure to avoid the dance route show night she mentioned.

Is staying until a set time just a BS excuse from the girls or an actual requirement from the bar?

I have known dancers etc that, in exchange for high salaries, were required to stay until, say, midnight by the bar. However, that was the exception. It seems to be a new norm in the hunt for more drinks sales.

Of course, replacing lost salary and drinks with 5000 p is the exact reason for a BF but that's another discussion.

[JusRide]

Good thing I learned how to use the bus to get to AC, because I used to always use magaritta stations private car service.

In 03/2023 Margarita Station will close permanently.

On of the few left western locations and an Institution and sign of the "old" AC will be gone.

And what will come next?

For sure some Korean Restaurant.

https://www.acmargarita.com/margarit...in-march-2023/

[Goferring]

.... A couple of chicks did message me 'hey you barfined my friend'. To which I replied 'Oh wow I didn't know that was your friend. '. The End.

Meeting a girl after work. Yes, this is common and pretty easy. The issue is waiting until 3 am for most bars....

I'd agree that returning to a bar can be as big or little of a scene as the guy allows it to be. There may be some truth to jealousy, anger, affection etc but the most of it is to get the guy to buy more drinks or another barfine. If extreme emotions deliver this then that's what she will do. If the guy DGAF, then it serves no benefit to her and quickly passes. As usual, no need to be rude to her but equally don't fall for every outburst.

After work a girl will also likely be dog tired, hammered drunk and possibly been fucked several times. Agreeing to meet before work can be a much better time. Cheap Charlie's can just get her number in the bar but more reliable is to BF her once for a trial then swap numbers. Costs and reliability will be much better.

[FuriousGeorge]

Regarding barfining multiple chicks from the same bar. Yes it can be a problem. If you show up to the bar the next day, the the girl may jump off the stage and sit by you and hug you and be excited for another round. Most of us are nice guys and don't want to be a dick and say get lost. If this happens, I recommend you be nice and finish your drink and head to another bar. The more time passes, the less she will be attached. Wait a few days. The next time you show up she might be with another dude and you say Hello, and nod and it's understood that it's all business. This is a big reason why I stayed away form the unpaid civilians. They often will get legitimately pissed when they see you with another girl and try to ruin your vacation. I only did multiple barfines from Lolipop and Q bar. These chicks are a bit more fun and understanding and often very busy, which helps. This is the only trip where I didn't run into any jealousy issues. A couple of chicks did message me 'hey you barfined my friend'. To which I replied 'Oh wow I didn't know that was your friend. '. The End.

Meeting a girl after work. Yes, this is common and pretty easy. The issue is waiting until 3 am for most bars. Gecko's is the best for this because they close at midnight. Exchange info at the bar and they may hit you up after. I roll with a 'business card' with my info that I tuck into their bra wrapped around a 100. Alternately, after a barfine, if I really like a girl, I exchange info after the deed and they usually will hit me up after work for a non-negotiated or much reduced price.

[MrHappyKat]

I will be in PH for my 1st visit in March: Manila and AC for a total of 2 weeks. Reading the posts here has been very helpful in planning and helping me ensure I have a great experience, one (or occasionally two) pussies at a time. Among the posts, Volterra has been killing it with awesome, detailed and very enjoyable reviews. Kudos, Dude. Your experiences demonstrate the truth of the old joke:

Sex is like pizza: When it's good it's really great. And when it's bad. It's still pretty good!

So there's some chat about girls (or mamasans) not accepting a BF until their shift ends or the bar closes (like at 3:00 am). My question: If I have to wait for her end her shift, am I still expected to pay the bar the BF amount? Couldn't I just (clandestinely) get her whatsapp and offer her something less than the BF directly to meet me? I mean I'd rather pay her 3000-3500 and she can keep it all, then pay the bar 4000-5000 and she only gets a 50% cut of that.

I get that this needs to be on the DL, as she will get in trouble with bar if they find out. And I suppose the bar may be pissed at me as well for cutting them out of the deal as well.

I have seen past posts mentioning that once you BF a girl, you can swap contact info and invite her to see you again before / after work or on her day off. That makes sense and I expect I'll use it if I meet a girl I really like.

But what is the BF etiquette for end of shift payments?

[NapaSlapper]

Is staying until a set time just a BS excuse from the girls or an actual requirement from the bar?

I have known dancers etc that, in exchange for high salaries, were required to stay until, say, midnight by the bar. However, that was the exception. It seems to be a new norm in the hunt for more drinks sales.

Of course, replacing lost salary and drinks with 5000 p is the exact reason for a BF but that's another discussion.

Its impossible to know exactly what's happening in the bars as all bars have different rules that change with the wind.

What is for sure is that many girls are in dance groups that are paid the bigger peso to learn their routines and then perform said routines in the bar or many bars if the bars are owned by a group, these girls are seldom barfineable before their shift ends in the early hours.

As for the other girls, well the girls are fully in charge not the punter, some will and many won't barfine but most that are not in a dance group are free to choose when and with who, girl says no I not barfine, she is either a drinks only girl or has already been barfined and waiting for her customer to return, its not easy to know what the fuck is going on in many bars and with the girls.

As far as girls getting jeleous, what a load of garbage, she fucks several guys per day and she wants to play the jeleous card, bullshit, remind the girl she is the hired help for the night and one is free to fuck where they want, some need to grow some balls it seems.

[WestCoast1]

Is staying until a set time just a BS excuse from the girls or an actual requirement from the bar?

Just guessing here. Its possible the pretty one was barfined earlier by a Korean or other who planned to come back and pick up the girl (s) later. She can't leave the bar until he returns. If he doesn't return by closing time, the mama will re-barfine her with you, earning two barfines in one evening. Any drinks she gets while waiting for the first chap to show up is added cash influx. Its been a few years, but I saw a lone Korean barfine 5 girls (1 each for him and his 4 buddies) at the bar opening, tell the mama the guys would return later to pick up the girls, then left. A mama I dated back then confirmed that it happens (early barfine and but not taking the girl until later) in the evening.

You tell them upfront you are a "butterfly". After she understands you then you can ask her for her friend or other referrals. If the girl says she is bothered or upset by it I tell her to Stop that crap.

Volterra: I am with DG on this. Early on I experienced the occasional pinay jealousy thing in this or that bar. You can do one of several things:

1) Nervously dance around the issue (as you did), trying not to anger this or that girl.

2) Each time you take a girl from a new bar, stay out of that bar the rest of your trip, so you don't have the chance to make last night's girl jealous by having eyes for another girl in her bar.

3) Tell every girl on her first night with you that you are a butterfly, and make a point to ask her for another girl referral. It doesn't make any difference if she supplies one or not, it lets her know that you are a butterfly.

4) Purposely take another girl in the jealous girl's bar the first time she shows some jealousy / animosity. That lets every girl in the bar know that you think them interchangeable (they are), and that you as a customer are interchangeable to them (you are, if she has the opportunity). I know that sounds harsh, but its not. They are used to being interchanged regularly. You are just another. She is just another. That's the entire joy of many bars with many girls.

AC is a huge mystery of misconceptions to many gents. Doing #3 and / or #4 stops all that jealousy / animosity crap in its tracks.

Go team.

[Dg8787]

The new spotlight dancer at Dollhouse was required to stay by the bar, maybe because she was new. Not sure about the Q Bar girl. She and waitress said she could be BFd then the girl said she could not leave til 3. She seemed nervous with the "cousin" sitting right there. But then closing time would not be BF, so I am not sure if she was one of those you are talking about. But I recall a couple others during the week who said they were required to stay til close. Us poor punters.

I believe Qbar and Lollipop has a rule that after so many girls have been BF then the rest have to stay and dance so there are some girls there. Not sure where they draw the line.

One night I wanted to BF a new girl at Lollipop around 8 pm with very few dancers around. The mamason said none of the girls could BF as there weren't many girls there. After much discussion and I stated I only wanted her for 1 pop ST it was agreed the BF was ok as long as she was back by 10 pm.

[Dg8787]

This girl only said Jemma. She is the tiniest of the spotlight dancers, 4'11" and 40 kgs. And her teeth were protruding a bit forward. Also, her nipples were unusually large and firm like doorknobs. Not sure if that is the one.

FuriousGeorge and others, would be good to hear how you navigated among various girls you were with at the same bar. I remember reading half a year ago, I do not recall who posted, someone saying that 6 days in AC is enough, and now I kind of understand that. The last 2 nights changed things a lot for me once I had to start playing girl politics.

You tell them upfront you are a "butterfly". After she understands you then you can ask her for her friend or other referrals. If the girl says she is bothered or upset by it I tell her to Stop that crap.

BTW, when you vacation anywhere you usually get a fine meal the first night there and a fine meal during the last night. I always start and end with a high note in AC. I set up a previous performer to meet me the first night in AC. Then I repeat the best new performer for my last night in AC. If I am flying out of Manila then I stay the night before in Manila hotel. Thusly I will transport a good AC performer to Manila with me.

Never had a problem with one going to Manila with me. The last time the girl and her friend wanted to come. No problem with me!

[Volterra]

Was It Jemma or Jemma Lynn? I was with the latter from Atlantis (she always said the two names together). But my experience wasn't like yours, so I'm curious.

This girl only said Jemma. She is the tiniest of the spotlight dancers, 4'11" and 40 kgs. And her teeth were protruding a bit forward. Also, her nipples were unusually large and firm like doorknobs. Not sure if that is the one.

FuriousGeorge and others, would be good to hear how you navigated among various girls you were with at the same bar. I remember reading half a year ago, I do not recall who posted, someone saying that 6 days in AC is enough, and now I kind of understand that. The last 2 nights changed things a lot for me once I had to start playing girl politics.

[Volterra]

Is staying until a set time just a BS excuse from the girls or an actual requirement from the bar?

I have known dancers etc that, in exchange for high salaries, were required to stay until, say, midnight by the bar. However, that was the exception. It seems to be a new norm in the hunt for more drinks sales.

Of course, replacing lost salary and drinks with 5000 p is the exact reason for a BF but that's another discussion.

The new spotlight dancer at Dollhouse was required to stay by the bar, maybe because she was new. Not sure about the Q Bar girl. She and waitress said she could be BFd then the girl said she could not leave til 3. She seemed nervous with the "cousin" sitting right there. But then closing time would not be BF, so I am not sure if she was one of those you are talking about. But I recall a couple others during the week who said they were required to stay til close. Us poor punters.

[FuriousGeorge]

Final Night Flop with Cold Spinner.

Was It Jemma or Jemma Lynn? I was with the latter from Atlantis (she always said the two names together). But my experience wasn't like yours, so I'm curious.

[Goferring]

But then she gave me the "our waitress is my cousin" BS (2nd time I heard that in 2 nights) and that she would not be able to leave with me until the bar closed at 3...... When I asked if she could go with me, she also said she had to dance first and could go with me when the bar closed..

Is staying until a set time just a BS excuse from the girls or an actual requirement from the bar?

I have known dancers etc that, in exchange for high salaries, were required to stay until, say, midnight by the bar. However, that was the exception. It seems to be a new norm in the hunt for more drinks sales.

Of course, replacing lost salary and drinks with 5000 p is the exact reason for a BF but that's another discussion.

[DzikaBomba]

In 03/2023 Margarita Station will close permanently.

On of the few left western locations and an Institution and sign of the "old" AC will be gone.

And what will come next?

For sure some Korean Restaurant.

https://www.acmargarita.com/margarit...in-march-2023/

[Volterra]

Final Night Flop with Cold Spinner.

The joke is on me gents. I finished up my 10 day AC visit with a belly flop. Got out to the bars by 8:30 but only 2 stops tonight. Brown Sugar finally showed a bit of life with a few decent girls, so I had a couple beers there. Specifically, there was this 20 year old gem named Ana who just showed up there from the provinces the past 2 weeks. (But I never saw her anytime I popped my head in.) She and another late 20's beauty were in yellow, and her body, face and personality were all captivating. I asked the waitress to call her to my table, but the waitress said "she is a virgin. " No problem, bring her down. We had a really nice conversation and she was warm and affectionate. Smelled and looked just delicious and I had thoughts of success in hand until I asked her about BFing. She said it was all up to mamasan and that she had no freedom during this preliminary period. I asked if she would be willing to give up her virginity of mama agreed and she said yes, she was looking forward to it, but it would be expensive.

I called mamasan over and she said 4000 for BF, but I asked about actually having sex. Mamasan asked Ana if she agreed and Ana said yes, then mama quoted me 200 k to devirginize her. "Bill please. " I said a polite goodbye to Ana and was off. Hate to miss that chance, but I was not really looking for a virgin. Mama offered to have me take one of the others but it was getting awkward and girls do not like to be 2nd fiddle. So I was off.

Then back to Atlantis. My Thursday sizzler was there looking hotter than ever and I wanted to see her dance. But I actually was hoping to BF someone else. I made eye contact with one of the sizzler's fellow spotlight dancers, who stood out for her petite frame and super tight belly (named Jemma). I also watched lots of other dancers, but I suspected that the sizzler had seen me. Not a big deal if it was not a big deal to her. Anyway, at one point I mistakenly thought the sizzler left with another customer. So I went upstairs to check on some of the other dancers, and I called Jemma to a back table, only to see the sizzler with another guy. So just as Jemma joined me, the sizzler walked past and said Hi. Jemma was kind of a buddy with her and noticed this. So this would affect the rest of the short night, as I would find out.

We all know business is business, but some of the girls want to have their cake and eat it too. In other words, for them, it is just business if they need to give attention to another customer, and if you visit the bar that night, you just have to let it go. But if you then go for another girl, they may well become possessive and try to claim you. Lots of dudes understand this, and so do I, but if you have little experience with it, it can get awkward. It was not fun tonight in this respect.

Jemma was friendly but not nearly as flirty as she had been when trying to get my attention from above stage. She was also older than I thought, at 31, and did not look quite as good up close (though still a very good tight body). I did not feel like dragging the night on, and Jemma was eager to go, but in retrospect, I see that her intention was to BF with me early and then try to sneak back for another late night customer.

So once we got back to my room it all went downhill. She was cold, complaining, and a bit full of shit through and through. The shower together was boring, and once in bed the first thing she demanded was the condom. I had one, so no worries. She also did not want to do much kissing and, irritatingly, she pretended to have lots of ticklish spots. But her nipples were fucking hot so that was a good place to start. And she perked up when I went down on her for some nice long DATY. Her BBBJ was quite good, but there just was no electricity. When she capped the dom and started riding me, her tight body looked fantastic and she did some good cowgirl skills, but I just was not feeling anything from her so was kind of half up, if you get my meaning. (It should have been explosive with that little body. But I admit I still felt a bit weird about back at the bar.).

Then on her back as I drilled her deep in multiple positions. She was tiny and easy to access that g spot, but she was only kind of half into it as well. In a nutshell, I could not blow my load, even when slamming that delicious little ass. So I kind of gave up. I tried to rekindle it but she again was irritating and overly sensitive. What was worse is that said gave me the "can I ask you a question" thing. She wanted to know if I had BFd her colleague the sizzler. I was irritated by the question but said yes, reminding her that I have to respect Jemma's professional life when she is with another guy too. She understood, but I could tell that it had been on her mind and clouded what might have been a hot sexual experience.

Then she asked if she could go. Fortunately, her BF was only 4000 compared to 5000 for I guess the younger ones. At this point, my only thought was to get rid of her and move on. So I made sure to get a few pics out of her and I got her out the door ASAP without tipping, wasting the 2nd shot without ever even getting the first one really. Before she left she showered, prettied herself up again and sprayed herself with perfume, so she obviously was going back for another. There were others at Atlantis that might have been much better, but more than anything, I got another taste of how go go politics might bring the sex life down on certain nights. So major thumbs down for petite Jemma, and a good solid downer of a final AC night after a great week of shagging. Have to redeem myself next time.

Back to reality tomorrow but taking many fond sex memories with me from this week. Still looking forward to my next PH trip and coming AC reports from other gentlemen soon. Cheers.