Angeles City

[Transporter]

I've stayed at Plaza Suites twice, when I showed up unexpectedly at ABC and it was full, so I had to stay for a night at Plaza. It's nice enough, but at least when I stayed there, it had no restaurant or bar which was a downer for me. I would by no means call either Plaza Suites of ABC "luxury" in the traditional sense of judging accommodations, but in my opinion, it's the best that Angeles has to offer.

GE.

Not the greatest pic (I know I have a bunch more, just got to find them) probably was off my flip phone at the time. But it is an okay place to stay and have fun.

[Errol Flynn]

My flight landed at 5 am on Thursday (half an hour late). Covid check was as simple as flashing my QR code, Immigration had a small line but was easy. The first hiccup was getting my bag. Which took forever. No Customs clearance for non-Pilippinos. Then I followed the very precise instructions from Central Park to the Bay where my driver was to meet me (arriving that early I wanted things simple, and indeed I wanted nothing more than to collapse into the car and get to the Hotel where I had booked an extra night in order to check in early.) But NO DRIVER. It took an hour to connect with him (my phone wasn't working and CPT didn't respond to emails, eventually I had to borrow a phone. Turns out he went to the wrong Terminal. How a driver for CPT doesn't know that Philippines Airlines comes into Terminal 1 is beyond me, but this type of fuck up seems to be quite standard in the PI, even when you're dealing with a 4 star hotel. They don't get that it's even a problem.

Got to AC and CPT is a very nice hotel. Showered, rested a bit and then went out to explore. I thought I might find a pretty massage girl, but no joy (in Thailand they were all over the place sitting on the curb waiting for you, but the few Massage girls I saw outside in the daytime in Angeles were all Fuglies). Nor were there any obvious FLs. There were, however, girls sitting outside the doors of numerous bars by early afternoon. These are not "door girls" as in some countries, they are regular bar girls doing a stint at trying to lure customers in. I had lunch at Kokomos, a great place to watch Walking Street and several of the girls in the doorway of Bar 1-2-3 (directly across the street) were quite cute and actively trying to engage with other dudes sitting at the Kokomos counter. I was tempted, but decided I was too tired and went back to CPT (2 blocks). I decided to book a hotel massage. I figured this wouldn't include extras, but after a 15 hour flight a massage seemed like a great idea. The girl was middling attractive, but if it's just a massage that's fine. However, she very quickly started making it sexual. It was a good massage, not just an excuse for he, but it was clear more was on offer. I wasn't sure I wanted to spill leche on that, but after the depravation of Sex Prison I caved and let her do a HJ. 1,000 peso tip plus 500 for massage. I'm sure more was available although she told me not to tell anyone that she did extras (so I'm not sharing her name).

I took a nap and then went out looking for trouble. I had planned on trying some of the flashier clubs, but after sticking my head in a few I decided to try Bar 1-2-3 which had new cute girls at the door. This was about 7 pm but I was tired. 1-2-3 is Korean owned but Management welcomes others. That said, the girls aren't all keen on Foreigners. There were maybe 30 girls, all wearing matching white dresses, standing on stage, but really not dancing. 3 or 4 struck my fancy. There was a real stunner at the far end, model material in my book. But I tried to catch her eye and she wouldn't look at me. Instead she would make big faces at the Koreans who walked in, looked, and walked out. I realized I'd be wasting my time on her, pretty or not. My second choice, I'll call her J, returned my looks with some shy smiles so I decided to bring her down. I offered her a drink and she said she doesn't drink alcohol because it causes her skin to break out. I said fine and got her a fruit juice. J told me that the Koreans would usually send her back up without a drink when she told them she didn't drink alcohol, she really appreciated that I didn't do that. (If my memory is correct LDs were 350 and my beers were about 115). We chatted a bit (excellent English which was common). J is from Mindanao (seems I like Mindanao girls), 20 years old, no babies, 2 months in AC (they all seemed to say 2 months in AC so who knows?) Slim and quite pretty in the eyes of this beerholder. So I asked if she wanted to Bar Fine? She said yes, 4000 pesos ST, that didn't seem to be negotiable, but I didn't really try, I only wanted ST that night. I asked "No condom, okay?" J said yes, as long as I didn't come inside her. I said fine and we went.

J was super sweet (a recurring theme) and somewhat submissive / passive. She wasn't going to take the lead on wild sex, but was happy for me to fuck her anyway I wanted. She told me that even though she works at a Korean owned bar she really doesn't like going with Koreans. (Hence I'm not naming her). She showed me pictures on her phone of the penis stud rings she says all the Koreans want to wear. She found them disgusting and doesn't like how the Koreans treat the girls. Several girls told me the same thing. Maybe they were all blowing smoke up my ass. But it seems to me that there are some girls who prefer Koreans and others who prefer Foreigners. Something for everyone.

There was no rush to the session and she hung out with me for quite awhile afterwards. She was happy to cuddle and kiss, although she tried to keep her lips closed. But I was tired and eventually kicked her out. J didn't ask for a tip and I didn't think to offer one. Not a bad first night.

[Errol Flynn]

I had hoped to write FRs while I was there, but I was too damn busy with more important things! Will try to add some detailed reports as time allows, but let me start by saying I had a GREAT first visit. I ended up spending eight days in AC (staying at Central Park Tower, which I recommend), one night in Makati, four days in Sabang, a night in Rizal (long story) and my final night in Malate. I had been concerned that more than four days in AC would be boring. It wasn't, at least on a first trip, between jet lag and some misconceptions it took me four days to really get the hang of what I was doing.

Was it better (cheaper) in the Good Old Days? I'm sure it was, but it's still great, even if no longer the cheapest option in the world, I have never found true GFE like the Pinas give anywhere else. How about those Korean's? Sure, twenty years ago white guys (called Foreigners) were at the top of the pecking order, and today the Koreans are at the top, especially in Korean owned bars. And yes, there were girls who wouldn't go with me as an aging over weight Foreigner. Bummer. But I met many hot girls (even in Korean owned bars) that said they hated going with Koreans and much prefer Foreigners. In fact I ended up traveling my second week with a super cute 19 year old Visayan girl (from Lollipop) who just texted me that she misses her California King (Bed) - a reference to my big belly as well as my state.

I have been to Colombia multiple times and Thailand once (15 years ago. But I have followed things). If you want the cheapest possible sex (short of Madagascar) go to Colombia. And if you speak Spanish you can get something like GFE there, although having been to the PIs now I realize it was more "Friends with (paid) benefits" than true GFE. Meanwhile I found sex in Thailand to be readily available at numerous price points, but more transactional. I never found real GFE there, although not speaking Thai was part of that. No matter how old you are, in the PI you can find 18-20 year old sweethearts who will be your true GF (for better or worse) for as little as a few hours, or as long as you want.

FWIW there are a fair number of African Americans in AC, mostly retired military I think, and the girls didn't seem to have any problem with them, although they might be scared of dick size, as they seemed a bit scared of that even with Foreigners. I didn't see East Indians or Arabs, there were some Japanese and Chinese mongerers along with plenty of Aussies and a smattering of Brits, continental Europeans and Americans.

More later.

[DzikaBomba]

I know nothing about Telegram but almost everything I hear about it is connected with anonymity and use by scammers. Exactly what is it and how does it work? Have you found it reliable?

Cheers. G.

Because it is not only a messenger, its also an social media.

Use it only for messaging and you are fine. Don't go into buying drugs and anti vax theories and nothing bad will come out of it.

It has a people nearby function same as wechat. And this function delivers results.

Give it a try and you will see.

[Goferring]

Pinalove, wechat, tantan, telegram.

I know nothing about Telegram but almost everything I hear about it is connected with anonymity and use by scammers. Exactly what is it and how does it work? Have you found it reliable?

Cheers. G.

[WestCoast1]

I quit going to AC about 10 years ago, but I am starting to rethink my position after that pic.

T! Don't rethink regarding that pic. Rethink regarding THIS pic.

And speaking of 'position', let your imagination run. . .

[Expat American]

I don't understand why mongers expect the price of pussy to remain the same?

Price of bread is up. No one complaining about that?

Price of gasoline is up. No one complaining about that?

Monger Wages are up. No one complaining about that?

SMH.

Under the Friends and Family plan I am paying P3500 for ST before 8 pm. Plenty of girls lined up before 8 pm.

Why before 8 pm? 1) I like to sleep at 11 pm. 2) I have found these innocent 19-22 yo can be home by 10 pm without raising any suspicions.

F and F plan P3500ST works for me.

Great reports Mr. HappyKat.

I'm okay with the inflation. But the attitudes and expectations of the girls has deteriorated greatly. For example, even a 350 P LD gets you nothing but a dead fish sitting next to you in many bars. There are exceptions but the playful, flirty, sexy interactions are much less likely than before where it was standard in every bar. And lets not even get into the wild nudity and shows each bar would have. As for the girls I found several refusing blowjobs. I have never had to ask before if a girl does a BJ. It is assumed standard. But I guess not any more. Also you find runners more often than before, entitled princesses etc etc. The bread and gasoline to the best of my knowledge still perform the same way as they always did.

[Sammon]

Prices always goes up in everything. DIA girls now go for minimum 2500 to 3000. But it always is for LT. Generally very friendly once they get to know you. I make them comfortable. So they refer me their friends, cousins whatever. I like to have a GFE. ST for me is a waste of time.

Yes, DIA requires lots of work but you get some gems. They all need money and money in thousands is lot of money for them maybe not for AC bargirls. Some of the DIA girls I met are really students and have a job. Unless I get a girl from surrounding provinces the girl leaves after breakfast. I do not need anybody during daytime. I go for massages and do my own things.

On chatting I tell them 2500 for all night and generally give 3000 after with some change for transportation. They are very happy.

In Angeles before I prefer street walkers. Most of these were bargirls before but for a reason they do freelance. Only sone will stay all night. But for ST they will accept less than 2000.

[DzikaBomba]

That roughly is the new normal, for those that have been following along since the re-opening of AC.

Can you tell where you got girls for 1500? SW? Gogos? Tinder?

BTW, when I was there late last year, I got a wild range of initial prize requests from SW. From 5 k ST, down to 1 k ST. For the 1 K girl (mid 30's, nice figure, demure girl), I queried jokingly if that was good for 2 pops. "Up to you". She was serious, so I decided to go a bit further and asked if she could stay for 5 hours and 2 pops for 1 k. "OK yes". One wonders what one is getting for that low price.

All Girls online. Pinalove, wechat, tantan, telegram. I don't use tinder, because its used from people who pay 3 k st. Getting 18 or 19 years old for 1,5 k was no problem.

But sure the girls Like the ones paying 3 k ST most. They love them.

Yes the prices went up, that's why its ok to pay 1,5 k now instead of 1 k.

[Goferring]

One wonders what one is getting for that low price.

Sierra, Tango, and Delta???

I've known several very attractive dancers and bargirls to turn to freelancing or streetwalking after getting booted from Gogo's etc. Mostly for fighting, drugs or being psychos.

Enjoy. G.

[Transporter]

One wonders what one is getting for that low price.

Sierra, Tango, and Delta???

[Goferring]

I don't understand why mongers expect the price of pussy to remain the same?

Great reports Mr. HappyKat.

Two mongers will always disgree on pricing. Cheap Charlie's will be saying over paid and Ballers will say pay up and have a good time. In reality, it only matters to one person: the guy spending his money.

Agreed.

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

I'm not qualified to talk about pricing trends over the last few months, let alone years. This is my first visit to Angeles, Manila and the Philippines. So I can only comment to what expectations I had from reading posts here any my own experiences in 6 days at ABC in Angeles.

What I found in my brief stay was bar fines ranged from PHP 4,000 to PHP 5,000 for LT along Walking Street and Perimeter clubs like Brown Sugar. At the same time, the few Pina Love, FilipinoCupid contacts I spoke with (who were not catfishing, or asked for cash in advance) wanted from a reasonable (IMO) PHP 2,000 to an outrageous (IMO) PHP 12,000. The PL girl I selected was an obvious pro. No pretense about it. But she had a great body (with a butterface), showed me that body and a pic ID on video chat in advance, and got right into fucking me near to death within 5 minutes of entering my room.

So I can't comment on what prices are too high for you. It's your dick and your wallet. I can comment that almost every girl I banged gave me what I considered the full value of the amount I paid (with exceptions noted in my posts).

I will definitely come back when I can.

I don't understand why mongers expect the price of pussy to remain the same?

Price of bread is up. No one complaining about that?

Price of gasoline is up. No one complaining about that?

Monger Wages are up. No one complaining about that?

SMH.

Under the Friends and Family plan I am paying P3500 for ST before 8 pm. Plenty of girls lined up before 8 pm.

Why before 8 pm? 1) I like to sleep at 11 pm. 2) I have found these innocent 19-22 yo can be home by 10 pm without raising any suspicions.

F and F plan P3500ST works for me.

Great reports Mr. HappyKat.

[Goferring]

I'm not qualified to talk about pricing trends over the last few months, let alone years. This is my first visit to Angeles, Manila and the Philippines.

No offense but the girls are famous for charging what the market will bare. Its no surprise that a self confessed new guy in town was fully priced.

But, as you said, your money, your dick and evidently you were happy with the results. 👍.

Enjoy. G.

[MrHappyKat]

Thanks for this Info. As you were not shocked about these price it seems that this is the new normal now?

Last year (06/2022) I had girls for 1,5 K ST easily and now the price doubled? What happened?

Or are Americans now trying to compete with the Koreans or they want a new Costa Rica (where ST is 150 $) in the PH? Then keep on!

I will not go to AC anymore with this Prices and shit like that. Thanks for your warning. Go on with this. Many thanks!

I'm not qualified to talk about pricing trends over the last few months, let alone years. This is my first visit to Angeles, Manila and the Philippines. So I can only comment to what expectations I had from reading posts here any my own experiences in 6 days at ABC in Angeles.

What I found in my brief stay was bar fines ranged from PHP 4,000 to PHP 5,000 for LT along Walking Street and Perimeter clubs like Brown Sugar. At the same time, the few Pina Love, FilipinoCupid contacts I spoke with (who were not catfishing, or asked for cash in advance) wanted from a reasonable (IMO) PHP 2,000 to an outrageous (IMO) PHP 12,000. The PL girl I selected was an obvious pro. No pretense about it. But she had a great body (with a butterface), showed me that body and a pic ID on video chat in advance, and got right into fucking me near to death within 5 minutes of entering my room.

So I can't comment on what prices are too high for you. It's your dick and your wallet. I can comment that almost every girl I banged gave me what I considered the full value of the amount I paid (with exceptions noted in my posts).

I will definitely come back when I can.