Makati

[WestCoast1]

She asked me where I was staying and that's when it all went to shit.

SHE JUST WOULD NOT GO TO THE MAKATI PALACE with me. Full stop. Not going to happen.

Couple of thoughts:

1) She knows someone who works at MP, and worries that word will get back to her fam.

2) She knows persons in the immediate area, like SW or her former gogo workmates, or a cousin is a guard at Filling Station.

[WestCoast1]

I'll be in Manila next week and haven't been since 2019. I previously really liked Kojax and saw it mentioned here recently as being open?

Previously reported, but not much info yet about the new Kojax. Thanks Mutley.

I was of the impression that Lips & Neon Nights were legit clubs from YouTube clips / videos. Is that not the case?

As reported by Mutley, Lips is 2 bars, up and downstairs. Plenty of good-looking flesh in both places, gals rotate nightly between the two. Girls can be barfined in both places. Downstairs has a pool table and about 20-25 girls. Upstairs is a dance / performance floor and 50-60 gals, a more gogo-is party bar.

Neon Nights is upstairs and technically a disco (that music is LOUD, with a DJ who yaps). There are several dance troups who perform nightly. Its a gogo bar with girls who BF. On weekends if you want to sit at a table or booth, you rent it with a consumable food / drink fee (typically 3000). Weeknights no fee, just pay for your food / drink ala carte.

It would appear you have not RTTF.

[MrHappyKat]

Makati Day 1:

After 6 days in Angeles at ABC Hotel, I took the ABC SUV Service to Makati (PHP4700 + tip) and got dropped of at Makati Palace on P. Burgos. (See the Angeles Forum for my AC reports.).

Arrived around 2 pm and they let me check in early. I had scheduled two more Sugar Baby dates for my trip and the 1st was that night; dinner in BGC and then back to my room for dessert. We agreed to an allowance of PHP6000, and had a very good time together, wine and dine at the Japanese Food Court by Mango Nut, mutual shower in the room, enthusiastic BBBJ, BBFS, and delightful CIP to finish.

Some notes on brining guests to Makati Palace:

1. Policy is one guest at a time.

2. Your guest must show valid ID at the security station outside the lobby doors.

3. The guard will fill out a form with her name, your room number, and with a space for you sign before she leaves the hotel. I actually took the time to read the form; it's basically a liability release stating that the room renter is responsible for any damage caused by his guest.

4. Before they allow her to leave, Security calls your room for an ok.

She left around 10:30 pm and I cleaned up and decided to do a recon crawl around street. Ended up at Maison, and wow, it certainly is as described! Maybe 2 dozen girls, about half on stage at any time. There are a gaggle of maybe 8 fuglies that swarm every guy who walks in like it's a choregraphed dance number from a 1980's variety show. Grabbed a seat, ordered a drink and tolerated Mamasan and the Pointer Sisters begging me to buy drinks for the Hag Crew. After politely refusing for about 5 minutes, they finally disbursed (to bum-rush the next guy?) and I was approached by 2 smoking babes. They were friendly. VERY friendly. One seemed to be having great fun putting my hands on her tits and under her panties, while the other appeared to be manually measuring me for a new pair of Speedos. I bought each a drink and enjoyed about 30 minutes of fondling fun. I left a little after 11:00 pm and went back to the hotel. Alone. To sleep.

Makati Day 2:

I had the second Sugar Date scheduled at 6 pm at an upscale place in the Grand Hyatt Makati Hotel. The plan was gourmet food, premium wine, and then (if she was into it) back to my room for dessert. We had a very nice time during dinner, talking and laughing for at least an hour after we finished eating. That's when I tried to pull the trigger. She was down and seemed totally into the idea and knew that was required before I would offer any allowance. She asked me where I was staying and that's when it all went to shit.

SHE JUST WOULD NOT GO TO THE MAKATI PALACE with me. Full stop. Not going to happen.

She seemed genuinely sorry. I think she really liked me. (Before you blow off that statement as old fat, loser ego, consider that I have over 10 years of sugar dating experience and my radar is very good.).

I dropped her off at her upscale residence apartment in BGC and headed back to the hotel. After changing into jeans and a polo shirt, I decided to salvage the night (The sildenafil had already taken effect) and went back to Maison. The hotter of the 2 girls form the previous night was giving a very high energy naked lapdance to a guy on the right side benches, so I started looking for alternatives. It took less than 10 minutes to connect with one of the school-girl outfit babes and she wasted no time in getting friendly. We chatted for a while, with her hand stroking me constantly, before I asked her if she'd like to come with me. Once again, I had a girl who insisted on using a condom. Did I spend 8 months reading ISG for nothing?? LOL.

Anyway, I negotiated her back to the path using my well-honed skill set. I just stared at her for 3 full minutes until she said ok. I talked to mamason and off we went. BF-ST PHP4200 (Plus my drink tab), Girl Tip PHP5000. All together it was about the same as the allowance I had agreed for my Sugar date. So I stayed within budget despite the last minute substitution.

Lesson learned: Always have at least one back up plan.

[Dg8787]

AC you will be totally safe as long as you pull the girl from a club. Actually any bar is no problem. Its only if you get the girl online (dating app and the like) that you will have to be vigilant.

In any case it is always a good idea to have a backup plan (getaway plan).

The newbie must have had a target on his back. Twice!

AC bargirls are the way to go. At least a start until you get on to the Friends and Family plan.

No other supply system like AC bars.

[Transporter]

AC you will be totally safe as long as you pull the girl from a club. Actually any bar is no problem. Its only if you get the girl online (dating app and the like) that you will have to be vigilant.

In any case it is always a good idea to have a backup plan (getaway plan).

[Dg8787]

Night 2.

Blackmail.

So I'm batting a pretty bad average right now. Online chick was pretty decent the entire day and night until way late when she spring on me she needs 60 k to pay tuition. I told her I'll think about it cause it was like 1 or 2 am when she tells me out of the blue. Had brunch with her and gave her 2 k taxi money (last of my pesos) on top of the gifts I gave her. She texts me a little bit later saying she is mad I didn't help her. I'm on my way to fly out right now and have no cell reception to talk. I check my messages now and she says she wants 15 k and blackmails me with a sex tape she will send my friends on IG. My gut tells me to block her. I'm not even sure I care she sends the sex tape she claims she recorded on her phone on the couch. Said she took a picture of my ID she will send to her retired cop dad. The fact that she recorded me to entrap before even asking for money tells me I can't trust her.

In all the years I have been coming to PH I have never ever been extorted. Once a bargirl tried to scam me into thinking I made her pregnant. She even made fake pg tests and later on fake hospital bills. The fakes looked authentic but after I googled the doctor and the hospital none of them existed. Someone had good computer skills. Except they used the same zip code for Manila and AC. That was the tip off.

She applied anger to her messages when I didn't help her. They got angrier as time went. About 6 months in she say she had a bad miscarriage and lost the baby in the non-existing hospital. BTW, the hospital bill was now P350 K!

A month after that I got a message from a fake doctor account she had set up on Facebook demanding payment not only for the hospital but her bill of P150 k now.

Turns out later I found out from an acquaintance of hers (that I was fucking) that she had a butch lesbian lover that was orchestrating it all. LOL.

[Pickley]

I'm already out of the country but I'm actually going back soon, this time to s different city AC. She doesn't know I'm going back thought. I still think I'm just going to block her. Even if I give her 15 k it's not like I will believe she will delete anything. And by giving in once she will know she can blackmail me again. I already deleted my IG, which only had less than 100 followers, probably half of which are actual friends. I never used IG much anyways. Even if she did send my sextape to IG friends I feel like there's only a couple people that would judge me; like friends wives. My male friends would probably just give me props.

[Transporter]

Night 2.

Blackmail.

So I'm batting a pretty bad average right now. Online chick was pretty decent the entire day and night until way late when she spring on me she needs 60 k to pay tuition. I told her I'll think about it cause it was like 1 or 2 am when she tells me out of the blue. Had brunch with her and gave her 2 k taxi money (last of my pesos) on top of the gifts I gave her. She texts me a little bit later saying she is mad I didn't help her. I'm on my way to fly out right now and have no cell reception to talk. I check my messages now and she says she wants 15 k and blackmails me with a sex tape she will send my friends on IG. My gut tells me to block her. I'm not even sure I care she sends the sex tape she claims she recorded on her phone on the couch. Said she took a picture of my ID she will send to her retired cop dad. The fact that she recorded me to entrap before even asking for money tells me I can't trust her.

If you want to play here, you might want to get use to it. Extortion is meta now. The good thing is, she is a nub (15 K) and you are long gone. If it happened while you still had days left, then that is a different story, but since you are on your way out, there is not much to do.

[Goferring]

Night 2.

Blackmail.

If you are on your way out of the country, then I wouldn't worry too much. The only weapon she has is inciting fear and panic in you. The best thing you can do is maintain your IDGAF attitude and she will see that she has nothing to gain from her efforts and move on. She certainly isn't going to worry about tracking you forever so her supposed excop can pounce should you return.

Unfortunately, blackmail is big business in PI where guys with families or image conscious occupations can be coerced into paying serious dollars after swapping vids etc and handing over FB details.

I'd just block her and move on with life.

Enjoy. G.

[Muttley81]

I'll be in Manila next week and haven't been since 2019. I previously really liked Kojax and saw it mentioned here recently as being open? I'm guessing it may have changed. In 2019, it had a reputation for high quality (and expensive) girls and I'm happy to pay for quality.

I was of the impression that Lips & Neon Nights were legit clubs from YouTube clips / videos. Is that not the case?

Kojax has changed. Lips is where Kojax used to be, Kojax is where Plan be used to be. There is still some signage up on outside showing Plan be hence confusion on names when it opened. Quality of girls in Kojax is good, prices of drinks is not.

Lips is normal (ish) bar downstairs and a gogo upstairs. It has some of most attractive girls in area, some fuglies too of course. I have only been in Neon Nights twice for combined total of 20 seconds, it looked like a gogo but music was being played so loud I felt dizzy.

[Pickley]

Night 2.

Blackmail.

So I'm batting a pretty bad average right now. Online chick was pretty decent the entire day and night until way late when she spring on me she needs 60 k to pay tuition. I told her I'll think about it cause it was like 1 or 2 am when she tells me out of the blue. Had brunch with her and gave her 2 k taxi money (last of my pesos) on top of the gifts I gave her. She texts me a little bit later saying she is mad I didn't help her. I'm on my way to fly out right now and have no cell reception to talk. I check my messages now and she says she wants 15 k and blackmails me with a sex tape she will send my friends on IG. My gut tells me to block her. I'm not even sure I care she sends the sex tape she claims she recorded on her phone on the couch. Said she took a picture of my ID she will send to her retired cop dad. The fact that she recorded me to entrap before even asking for money tells me I can't trust her.

[Radian]

Other than those, there are the gogo bars previously mentioned: Maison, Lips (Badajos St), Dimples (faces Durban St at corner Burgos St), Neon Nights (upstairs), V-8, Coco Rock, Nautica and Lolipop. All gogos are on the same side of Burgos St (same side as Makati Palace), FS is across the street.

I'll be in Manila next week and haven't been since 2019. I previously really liked Kojax and saw it mentioned here recently as being open? I'm guessing it may have changed. In 2019, it had a reputation for high quality (and expensive) girls and I'm happy to pay for quality.

I was of the impression that Lips & Neon Nights were legit clubs from YouTube clips / videos. Is that not the case?

[Goferring]

No worries, I've had no reason to go to greenbelt for a long long time.

I enjoy using Greenbelt as accomodation: lots to see and do, close to Burgos etc, and places like Glorietta are very easy for new girls to find. However, I never mongered there. The "girls" at Havana were truly horrific every time I was there.

Enjoy. G.

[Transporter]

So no reason to go to greenbelt any more. Cheers.

No worries, I've had no reason to go to greenbelt for a long long time.

[ForkTruck]

A negotiated 2000 for sex including room ended up costing 6500.2000 of which was stolen. In a way I feel like it was a cheap price to pay for the lesson. Not that I didn't know the advice to begin with.

I rationalize these experiences as paying "Tuition" for learning something.

FT.