East China - Shanghai

[BonMonger]

Thanks mate for the TG. As to "M" I do agree with you that in recent times the quality of the girls went down whereas the prices were skyrocketed. Hence said your prices in TG seems ok if they are tall / thin types. On Fridays / Sat in general the crowd will be more but in recent times (after covid and all) it's worthless to visit.

When was last time you found good number or anything in M with Viets? I went twice in last month, albeit on Wednesday and Thursday because I wanted to avoid weekend crowds at 23:00 and absolutely didn't find anyone like maybe 2-4 girls each time and each occupied by 5-6 locals playing games Like normal drinking girls.

This is a TG link channel that gives you access to multiple channels from shanghai to all of China groups. Again beware outcall mostly fake agents (50-100 to get to you taxi fare and you can reject them then) or just try to find incalls 10-30% photoshop, photos may be 1-3 years old. https://t.me/aiweier3829.

[Tefnx]

Thanks for the heads up and yes shanghai became crazy expensive now a days. But for 7-.

8-9 lookers / 1.2/1.6 k is OK as "M" Vietnamese chicks are asking for 2 k. As to TG, no need to mention the link just give some ideas on search works like " shanghai out call" or flbb for ID etc. I can manage a bit Chinese writing / speaking / reading hence can navigate from there. Thanks again.

When was last time you found good number or anything in M with Viets? I went twice in last month, albeit on Wednesday and Thursday because I wanted to avoid weekend crowds at 23:00 and absolutely didn't find anyone like maybe 2-4 girls each time and each occupied by 5-6 locals playing games Like normal drinking girls.

This is a TG link channel that gives you access to multiple channels from shanghai to all of China groups. Again beware outcall mostly fake agents (50-100 to get to you taxi fare and you can reject them then) or just try to find incalls 10-30% photoshop, photos may be 1-3 years old. https://t.me/aiweier3829.

[BonMonger]

Thanks for the heads up and yes shanghai became crazy expensive now a days. But for 7-.

8-9 lookers / 1.2/1.6 k is OK as "M" Vietnamese chicks are asking for 2 k. As to TG, no need to mention the link just give some ideas on search works like " shanghai out call" or flbb for ID etc. I can manage a bit Chinese writing / speaking / reading hence can navigate from there. Thanks again.

Not sure buildings going to help you much lest you want to stay in lobby and hunt down obvious looking girls? LOL.

But for example the Jinao neqta hotel / serviced place has 3-4 I know of operating in who are definitely in the 7-9 looker category for 1200/1600 one shot yes shanghai is expensive esp for "stunners" which in my books is young slim 160-175 ish. Phoenix building near xujiahui swimming center from Dong a road and thereabouts has many of the cheaper 600-800 per shot but they are more like 5-6 in looks. You just need to find them online.

TG is very Fake as I Said, it's mostly agents for outcall with fake photos, they got a group where they got available girls and outsource your request to them, to who's available. I use it mostly to filter the ones who do "incall only" as these are generally "real" with 20-30 % photoshop and possible 1-2 year old photos. But it's usually that girl cause too many turning away would be bad reviews on them. Not sure if I can post a TG link here, once you get one account access however you can see what groups they in and thus branch out to the many groups online.

[Tefnx]

Can you advise how to search (what key words need to be typed) for telegram? And if you don't mind xuhui buildings names as I live in xuhui too. TIA.

Not sure buildings going to help you much lest you want to stay in lobby and hunt down obvious looking girls? LOL.

But for example the Jinao neqta hotel / serviced place has 3-4 I know of operating in who are definitely in the 7-9 looker category for 1200/1600 one shot yes shanghai is expensive esp for "stunners" which in my books is young slim 160-175 ish. Phoenix building near xujiahui swimming center from Dong a road and thereabouts has many of the cheaper 600-800 per shot but they are more like 5-6 in looks. You just need to find them online.

TG is very Fake as I Said, it's mostly agents for outcall with fake photos, they got a group where they got available girls and outsource your request to them, to who's available. I use it mostly to filter the ones who do "incall only" as these are generally "real" with 20-30 % photoshop and possible 1-2 year old photos. But it's usually that girl cause too many turning away would be bad reviews on them. Not sure if I can post a TG link here, once you get one account access however you can see what groups they in and thus branch out to the many groups online.

[BonMonger]

Can you advise how to search (what key words need to be typed) for telegram? And if you don't mind xuhui buildings names as I live in xuhui too. TIA.

True, but also depends. Iam ABC, so disclaimer that I don't stick out as you said, however:

If you try to hit elevator apartment compounds in city center, there's some that's very popular like the fake mountain compound in Jing'an and Brilliance city, it's not so much of an issue because 1) foreigners live there themselves 2) lots of people come and go there. Ofc if you hit some outskirt places or some very old buildings ones where they also sometimes operate it is very easy to stand out. But also older nongtang in city center have many foreigners living there so it's also somewhat okay.

The issue mostly however is that she serves alot of customers they probably going to notice people coming and going which is slightly less noticeable in an elevator building like I said earlier. Also girls do suggest to 1) not knock 2) leave one floor earlier or later and walk the stairs etc.

Also some operate out of smaller services apartments that's like hotels that also ok. Esp in xuhui area there are some that are in small-mid serviced apartments that have a lot of coming and goings that make it easy to mask your coming and going..

[Midwestern]

Yes. It's dead, Jim.

The crackdown was deadly effective.

Yeah, the glory days of past are long gone. They didn't disappear suddenly. It just happened gradually. First, the saunas disappeared. Then the FS MPs slowly started to disappear. Then agencies started to disappear (like RAIN, and of course there was SNG, and others). Then J and M became lame. These days, a visit to a HJ MP might cost what a visit to a sauna used to cost. Easily.

My M. O. For a while now has been to go to a HJ MP, or even a regular MP, and any time I get a cutie to service me, I get her WeChat. And then I chat them up later and try to meet them on their days off or before their shift. Many of them are desperate nowadays, because they have not been able to make a decent living during the past few years due to the zero-Covid policy.

[Midwestern]

Yeah, the heavy foot traffic at their apartment is another problem. I forgot about that. I actually got lucky one time, where a friend told me about an apartment gal. I met her at her apartment. Then, she told me about some of her friends who are also apartment gals. I met them too. OMG, a couple of them were super hot and the price was super low. But they can get over a dozen guys visiting them per day! Especially if they are hot and young. Eventually, I stopped seeing them because I was just worried that neighbors might call the cops.

True, but also depends. Iam ABC, so disclaimer that I don't stick out as you said, however:

If you try to hit elevator apartment compounds in city center, there's some that's very popular like the fake mountain compound in Jing'an and Brilliance city, it's not so much of an issue because 1) foreigners live there themselves 2) lots of people come and go there. Ofc if you hit some outskirt places or some very old buildings ones where they also sometimes operate it is very easy to stand out. But also older nongtang in city center have many foreigners living there so it's also somewhat okay.

The issue mostly however is that she serves alot of customers they probably going to notice people coming and going which is slightly less noticeable in an elevator building like I said earlier. Also girls do suggest to 1) not knock 2) leave one floor earlier or later and walk the stairs etc.

Also some operate out of smaller services apartments that's like hotels that also ok. Esp in xuhui area there are some that are in small-mid serviced apartments that have a lot of coming and goings that make it easy to mask your coming and going.

Ofc all what you said still holds true, it's just that if you are able and can identify good addresses the scene is ok. Also telegram has alot of outcall options (but all telegram are agents and the girls coming are not the same at all) but there's like 20 groups where agent advertise actively for girls to come to you. Just be prepared for random girls or similar looking girls rather than the exact one you saw on photos. QQ Ana telegram in calls are usually the sms girl on photo with 70-80% accuracy due to filter and photoshop and possibly older photos when they were younger, but they usually the same.

Another thing with QQ girls is they mostly offer service style what chinese call A be side. Which is less common with other types nowadays available.

[TitanX]

Yeah, but the problems with QQ girls are that.

(1) they are not easy to find and navigate if you cannot read Chinese.

(2) they often don't want to meet foreigners (no, no, it's not because foreigners have bigger wee wees, it's because they don't want their neighbors to see foreigners going in an out of their apartments.

(3) we foreigners stand out like sore thumbs, walking around those low-end compounds, looking for the right addresses, and so the guards may call us out, or nosy neighbors may call the cops.

And then if the building doors or elevators need a key to get in. That's very annoying also. Had a few of those issues last year too!

[Tefnx]

True, but also depends. Iam ABC, so disclaimer that I don't stick out as you said, however:

If you try to hit elevator apartment compounds in city center, there's some that's very popular like the fake mountain compound in Jing'an and Brilliance city, it's not so much of an issue because 1) foreigners live there themselves 2) lots of people come and go there. Ofc if you hit some outskirt places or some very old buildings ones where they also sometimes operate it is very easy to stand out. But also older nongtang in city center have many foreigners living there so it's also somewhat okay.

The issue mostly however is that she serves alot of customers they probably going to notice people coming and going which is slightly less noticeable in an elevator building like I said earlier. Also girls do suggest to 1) not knock 2) leave one floor earlier or later and walk the stairs etc.

Also some operate out of smaller services apartments that's like hotels that also ok. Esp in xuhui area there are some that are in small-mid serviced apartments that have a lot of coming and goings that make it easy to mask your coming and going.

Ofc all what you said still holds true, it's just that if you are able and can identify good addresses the scene is ok. Also telegram has alot of outcall options (but all telegram are agents and the girls coming are not the same at all) but there's like 20 groups where agent advertise actively for girls to come to you. Just be prepared for random girls or similar looking girls rather than the exact one you saw on photos. QQ Ana telegram in calls are usually the sms girl on photo with 70-80% accuracy due to filter and photoshop and possibly older photos when they were younger, but they usually the same.

Another thing with QQ girls is they mostly offer service style what chinese call A be side. Which is less common with other types nowadays available.

Yeah, but the problems with QQ girls are that.

(1) they are not easy to find and navigate if you cannot read Chinese.

(2) they often don't want to meet foreigners (no, no, it's not because foreigners have bigger wee wees, it's because they don't want their neighbors to see foreigners going in an out of their apartments.

(3) we foreigners stand out like sore thumbs, walking around those low-end compounds, looking for the right addresses, and so the guards may call us out, or nosy neighbors may call the cops.

[Midwestern]

On storefronts, it moved now all into buildings and compounds with QQ contacts etc, which is still quite alive.

Yeah, but the problems with QQ girls are that.

(1) they are not easy to find and navigate if you cannot read Chinese.

(2) they often don't want to meet foreigners (no, no, it's not because foreigners have bigger wee wees, it's because they don't want their neighbors to see foreigners going in an out of their apartments.

(3) we foreigners stand out like sore thumbs, walking around those low-end compounds, looking for the right addresses, and so the guards may call us out, or nosy neighbors may call the cops.

[Tefnx]

Yes. It's dead, Jim.

The crackdown was deadly effective.

On storefronts, it moved now all into buildings and compounds with QQ contacts etc, which is still quite alive.

[Tefnx]

Had a look in the new M's on Maoming lu last night. Hardly any ladies in there, just Chinese guys drinking at tables with a Chinese guitarist playing live on stage. The Viets were nowhere to be seen, I guess they're not able to come back yet.

Long time lurker here.

Yes M is dead, but J still has some but the ratio is horrible. Went there the other night around 11 pm and there was maybe 5 girls and 20 guys and when I left after 5 min more guys kept coming by truckloads (taxis).

But M had only 2 girls with like 30 guys but they do have a liveband.

[Explorer8939]

Never been to China and a lurker. Curious as to what happened with those supposed crackdowns a couple of years back. Did it really affect mongering or no? I just watched a serpentza video on the one where he talks about prostitution and he says its everywhere but he is also a bluepilled cuck so I don't trust alot of what he says. I always wanted to monger here but its kind of sad they brought everything down.

Yes. It's dead, Jim.

The crackdown was deadly effective.

[Rodneey]

Had a look in the new M's on Maoming lu last night. Hardly any ladies in there, just Chinese guys drinking at tables with a Chinese guitarist playing live on stage. The Viets were nowhere to be seen, I guess they're not able to come back yet.

[TitanX]

Just got my work visa approved and I will be moving to China for a year or so. I will be living in Wuxi but will travel back and forth between there and Shanghai.

This will be my first time mongering in China. I have lived in Thailand and Japan and to find girls and fun is very easy. So I'm looking for.

Help in both WUXI & SHANGHAI!

Looking for sites to contact escorts. I am a fan of massage parlors also so if you have any favorites in that area please let me know. Also not sure if they have brothel style places like in South America but I would also like to know about that.

I will begin my research and if anyone find themselves in that part of China soon let me know. First round on me!

Massage Republic, Shanghai Nightlife Online are two that came to mind.