General Info

[Cool Dude07]

Hello,

I am very new to this mongering world. I want to try some VFM option. I prefer Big ass girls. Please share some lead how can I start my journey. Thanks.

[Turgid]

My hope is to make just one more big trip to "Germongery" post-pandemic. And after that I think I will be done with Germany in favor of Brazil for mongering and discovering countries that I have not been to before for both mongering and non-mongering purposes. I just can't see continuing to go to Germany when I have Brazil. But before I call it quits, I need to have that last final hurrah! I'm going to do it up too with an epic trip in the works.

I've made 4 post covid trips so far but none for mongering. My first post covid mongering trip will be later this year. However, I'm really not feeling Germany. I think it will be Mexico first then Brazil. I had a really great time in Mexico back in 2010 and have not been back since. I understand there are hot Russians, Ukrainians and Eastern Europeans to be got in Mexico City.

[Bhamsookh1]

Hello,

Apologies in advance as this may not be right Group but couldn't find better option and didn't seek help elsewhere.

I will be staying for a few weeks in Brussels this summer, so I will appreciate a few contacts of independent girls that I can bring to hotel. I do not like escorts too much as they are overworked and I am failure on tinder and bumble. Like not professional prostitutes. Girls who do it as a side. Please PM me, thanks.

Also is Marie active?

The ginger colour hair girl who travelled between Antwerp, Brussels and Amsterdam.

Please share her contact if available!

Thanks.

[Sirioja]

Lovely German manga Mio on tour at Globe. Funny girl.

[Clodius1]

My hope is to make just one more big trip to "Germongery" post-pandemic. And after that I think I will be done with Germany in favor of Brazil for mongering and discovering countries that I have not been to before for both mongering and non-mongering purposes. I just can't see continuing to go to Germany when I have Brazil. But before I call it quits, I need to have that last final hurrah! I'm going to do it up too with an epic trip in the works.

My choices are more limited, it's the MTL or Deutschland oder die Schweiz for me brother. I'll just have to take our French road warrior's advice and improve my game, picking out promising profiles the best I can taking whatever flops on the chin here and there. My next Foret into the NRW in next month, hope to see you there. Otherwise, a boatload of club reports on the way. You all can laugh at my expense as I blunder about looking for petit spinners with good ZK.

[Sirioja]

A bad guy like me don't need to cry on desk, I never did at Bruggen, nor Globe, when I prefer to play to get from girls and I prefer full natural beauties able for fresh GFE than porn at Globe when rules there don't help for fresh GFE, but more robots following rules. Ekaterina who is a star at Globe, queen for putting her tongue in my throat and deeply BBBJ my more than 3 times size, but not GFE enough for me, so I didn't repeat, when I find higher level for less expensive in Germany. I'm not a local, but success depend on profiles you choose, when I don't go with porn dolls, nor prostitute images.

I never negotiate nor beg because it would kill GFE atmosphere I need, I just run away from not kissing girls without insisting and from girls saying: I don t sell love, when I pay for love in bed, only in bed, whatever can imagine many girls, I don t pay to only empty my balls, when I had great rooms without finishing and some not really good even filling plastic.

[Sirioja]

Two points. One, I agree that the public sex thing is an interesting thing to see once in your life, but personally it's not for me. Two, you can be a master negotiator on the couch and still get shafted, so to speak, in the zimmer with promises made but not kept by the SP. In Globe, you can talk to the desk and the girls will take note. Two many complaints and they are kaputt. In Germany, well, post-2017, you're just screwed. The club OPs aren't going to lift a finger. That's why the locals are still doing okay through networking and trial and error every weekend, but the international mongers are wading into a mine field. I'm still going to DE but the hunt for ZK at a reasonable rate is def trickier these days.

A bad guy like me don't need to cry on desk, I never did at Bruggen, nor Globe, when I prefer to play to get from girls and I prefer full natural beauties able for fresh GFE than porn at Globe when rules there don't help for fresh GFE, but more robots following rules. Ekaterina who is a star at Globe, queen for putting her tongue in my throat and deeply BBBJ my more than 3 times size, but not GFE enough for me, so I didn't repeat, when I find higher level for less expensive in Germany. I'm not a local, but success depend on profiles you choose, when I don't go with porn dolls, nor prostitute images.

[The Cane]

Two points. One, I agree that the public sex thing is an interesting thing to see once in your life, but personally it's not for me. Two, you can be a master negotiator on the couch and still get shafted, so to speak, in the zimmer with promises made but not kept by the SP. In Globe, you can talk to the desk and the girls will take note. Two many complaints and they are kaputt. In Germany, well, post-2017, you're just screwed. The club OPs aren't going to lift a finger. That's why the locals are still doing okay through networking and trial and error every weekend, but the international mongers are wading into a mine field. I'm still going to DE but the hunt for ZK at a reasonable rate is def trickier these days.

My hope is to make just one more big trip to "Germongery" post-pandemic. And after that I think I will be done with Germany in favor of Brazil for mongering and discovering countries that I have not been to before for both mongering and non-mongering purposes. I just can't see continuing to go to Germany when I have Brazil. But before I call it quits, I need to have that last final hurrah! I'm going to do it up too with an epic trip in the works.

[Clodius1]

Such falling quality for looks and real fresh GFE at Globe for increased too expensive rate, when, even not a local, but I find higher quality and prettier girls in Germany for less expensive, when I don't need Globe rules and hate public sex killing my desire when I see a piece of meat fucked. I highered my expectations since covid and find on my standard.

Two points. One, I agree that the public sex thing is an interesting thing to see once in your life, but personally it's not for me. Two, you can be a master negotiator on the couch and still get shafted, so to speak, in the zimmer with promises made but not kept by the SP. In Globe, you can talk to the desk and the girls will take note. Two many complaints and they are kaputt. In Germany, well, post-2017, you're just screwed. The club OPs aren't going to lift a finger. That's why the locals are still doing okay through networking and trial and error every weekend, but the international mongers are wading into a mine field. I'm still going to DE but the hunt for ZK at a reasonable rate is def trickier these days.

[Sirioja]

2017 law was the death of the "club rate. " Sure, some front desks still whispered the "expected rates" to new guests post 2017, but it was already the beginning of the end. Now post covid it's the Wild West in DE FKKs. That's fine if you're a local and can ferret out the bad SPs, but for international mongers it's def more difficult than before. As for Switzerland, it's still the land of milk and honey, with posted tagesplan and club rates. Is there variation is service in Switzerland? You bet. Globe is great 95 percent of the time. Cleo was a bust for me. Sex park was good but not perfect. I haven't done Freubad yet but hopefully soon. Actually, my next trip will focus on smaller boutique clubs closer to NRW, hunting for new gems. So many casualties PSR, LR, GT, DV, bummer.

Such falling quality for looks and real fresh GFE at Globe for increased too expensive rate, when, even not a local, but I find higher quality and prettier girls in Germany for less expensive, when I don't need Globe rules and hate public sex killing my desire when I see a piece of meat fucked. I highered my expectations since covid and find on my standard.

[Clodius1]

When You really experienced, You know 2017 law didn t change anything else than registration for girls. If I go to RTC today, I will get BBBJ, FK and AO for 30 . Also, I prefer Sharks and Oase and Freubad than Globe now. Why? Because I find prettier girls and even at Freubad on Sunday evening after my extreme runs in Verbier Monts Gel and Fort, than now at Globe and I don t need rules to play my game with girls when I m probably one of those who push them deepest in their intimacy when real french kiss and DATY to make them cum are more intimate for most girls than BBBJ or even AO fucking, maybe why some turned mad when we stop, when they came weekly to me to repeat. But in brothels, I only marry faithful for the good, not for the bad, even I m the most faithful as long getting pleasure. From my weekly subjective experiences. Germany is best potential with Freubad. Ch with HH 199/60 , for me.

2017 law was the death of the "club rate. " Sure, some front desks still whispered the "expected rates" to new guests post 2017, but it was already the beginning of the end. Now post covid it's the Wild West in DE FKKs. That's fine if you're a local and can ferret out the bad SPs, but for international mongers it's def more difficult than before. As for Switzerland, it's still the land of milk and honey, with posted tagesplan and club rates. Is there variation is service in Switzerland? You bet. Globe is great 95 percent of the time. Cleo was a bust for me. Sex park was good but not perfect. I haven't done Freubad yet but hopefully soon. Actually, my next trip will focus on smaller boutique clubs closer to NRW, hunting for new gems. So many casualties PSR, LR, GT, DV, bummer.

[Escape Artist]

Agree with EA on this, prices are BSC after the kung flu, as if the 2017 law didn't F things up quite enough. Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point? Then why risk Sharks bad service when you can get solid service at Globe? Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time. Ouch. BTW, the German OP with the lengthy 2017 diatribe supra is full of shit. Yes, 2017 did FU the FKK scene quite a bit, but that does not explain how the OP at GT successfully held the line for price / performance until the covi--the closure. I've heard elsewhere that it was SPs that were responsible for the GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.

Separate Q for EA, didn't you crash a Venus club in the NRW? Was it the one in Duisburg or Hamminkeln?

The one in Hamminkeln. Great little club with a small line up and clean amenities. Service always reliable. The owner keeps a tight leash on the girls' service standards much like the managers of former GoldenTime.

I think many mongers would agree with you that 2017 was a significant year that changed the FKK landscape for the worse. Many girls asking for a BBBJ upcharge was only one consequence. The bigger one was that registration heavily dampened the supply of new talent coming in. Less fresh talent so less fresh girls who have not already separated personal enjoyment of sex versus turning off that switch when in a room with a customer. Average age of girls have gone up and with that, average expectation of income where before 19-20 year old girls were happy finishing the day a couple hundred euros on top. As girls get older, their expectation of a good earning day goes up. Lastly, even less Germans and other western European girls than before. Only German girls now are the trashy ones. I even remember there being a Dutch girl in 2017.

While COVID had more of an impact on price, I think 2017 laws had more of an impact on the trajectory of the FKK experience.

[Sirioja]

Agree with EA on this, prices are BSC after the kung flu, as if the 2017 law didn't F things up quite enough. Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point? Then why risk Sharks bad service when you can get solid service at Globe? Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time. Ouch. BTW, the German OP with the lengthy 2017 diatribe supra is full of shit. Yes, 2017 did FU the FKK scene quite a bit, but that does not explain how the OP at GT successfully held the line for price / performance until the covi--the closure. I've heard elsewhere that it was SPs that were responsible for the GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.

Separate Q for EA, didn't you crash a Venus club in the NRW? Was it the one in Duisburg or Hamminkeln?

When You really experienced, You know 2017 law didn t change anything else than registration for girls. If I go to RTC today, I will get BBBJ, FK and AO for 30€ . Also, I prefer Sharks and Oase and Freubad than Globe now. Why? Because I find prettier girls and even at Freubad on Sunday evening after my extreme runs in Verbier Monts Gelé and Fort, than now at Globe and I don t need rules to play my game with girls when I m probably one of those who push them deepest in their intimacy when real french kiss and DATY to make them cum are more intimate for most girls than BBBJ or even AO fucking, maybe why some turned mad when we stop, when they came weekly to me to repeat. But in brothels, I only marry faithful for the good, not for the bad, even I m the most faithful as long getting pleasure. From my weekly subjective experiences. Germany is best potential with Freubad. Ch with HH 199/60 , for me.

[Clodius1]

Inflation yes, but nothing else that I know of went up 100%, not even gasoline.

Agree with EA on this, prices are BSC after the kung flu, as if the 2017 law didn't F things up quite enough. Sharks prices almost comparable to Globe at this point? Then why risk Sharks bad service when you can get solid service at Globe? Peruse the German boards, service is a flop at Sharks somewhere between 25 to 40 percent of the time. Ouch. BTW, the German OP with the lengthy 2017 diatribe supra is full of shit. Yes, 2017 did FU the FKK scene quite a bit, but that does not explain how the OP at GT successfully held the line for price / performance until the covi--the closure. I've heard elsewhere that it was SPs that were responsible for the GT success model. They held the line on prices / service because they wanted access to its particular clientele that the club drew in from NE and BEL. Maybe BS, maybe not.

Separate Q for EA, didn't you crash a Venus club in the NRW? Was it the one in Duisburg or Hamminkeln?

[PaulInZurich]

Look on your internet about salaries in petrol business in Texas.

I didn't find anything even close to "basic worker" for USD 20 k per month. I am sure you found some before and can prove me wrong.