Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[GDreams]

You will have no military left in 10 months. You guys truly are delusional.

Aren't you the guy who repeatedly fell for Ukrainian scammers and couldn't get laid in pussy heaven?

[Questner]

We are certainly not listening to you. The fact is Russia has been on the offensive for 3 months and achieved nothing. Ukraine can probably take back half of Donbass with 10 Leopards given the Russians have murdered most of their own forces.

Pretty much OSINT: Only this year half a million contract soldiers are going to join Russian military. 1600 tanks, new and taken from conservation are going to be on a front line, 2 new repair tank plants built and mobile repair facilities expanded closer to to the lines of engagement. Only in and around Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) the daily losses for AFU for the last 3 months were appr. 16,000 dead per month plus injured. These are all horrific numbers. The team incentives for each modern Western tank with a private funds added in reach $200,000 and specially trained and equipped teams are standing by. This is highly non-symmetrical conflict: Ukraine would need a foreign army and there are no takers. Just call the guys below and see if they answer your call:

[VinDici]

Today Russia has got her own KKK...

An attempt was made here, poor little orc.

[Xpartan]

Both Russians and Chinese view themselves as superior to other races and ethnicities, so I'm guessing any pairing could be a real shit show!

True. Of theses two ethnicities, however, only the Chinese have at least some historical evidence to back up that claim (please take it as half joke -- I'm the last person to support any superior race theory).

And, no matter the country in which the parents decided to settle, any children would be "half-breeds," with all the negatives that inevitably accompany that status. The problem with ubermenschen is that they place a high value on the purity of the bloodline, which doesn't make for a hospitable attitude toward mutts.

Again, totally true. Half-breed kids will always suffer growing up in either country. That's not even debatable.

Which means, if the parents (or parent) moves to a third country (assuming they can), then they won't be doing anything to help either Russia's or China's demographic problem. Same thing if the child leaves when they're older and on their own. I guess it's an occupational hazard for any "Master Race" that they either eliminate or alienate any who don't meet their purity standards.

Yes, but "assuming they can" is a big qualification. China might be betting on keeping these kids in China when they grow up, which, for a totalitarian regime, is not that far-fetched come to think about it. But what's really going to happen 20-30 years from now is a crapshoot anyway.

[Jmsuttr]

You will have no military left in 10 months. You guys truly are delusional.

Wasn't true then, and isn't true now. Once again, zero facts to back up your assertion. You might have better luck if you stick to predictions about the CDMX mongering scene.

BTW, whenever I see or hear any of those so-called experts who made wrong predictions, and they haven't acknowledged their mistakes, I automatically flag them as unserious posers. No one is infallible, but anyone who cares about the truth should have the intellectual integrity to admit past mistakes.

An honest pundit or expert would detail the reasoning behind the wrong prediction and then move forward to explain how their analysis has evolved. Shameless narrative-mongers and self-promoters will never do that.

[VinDici]

You will have no military left in 10 months. You guys truly are delusional.

Talk about delusional. You have none left now, just prisoners with HIV forced to fight to get some meds.

[Jmsuttr]

Russian girls who would be interested in mating with the Chinese would have an intention to leave stepmother-Russia behind and shut the door behind them. As much as they might get a buyer's remorse later on (because China is not exactly a promised land), their intention would be to relocate to China.

Also I think it was you who reported official Chinese dating commercials on Russian TV. I don't know if China would easily let children of Chinese citizens leave the country.

Both Russians and Chinese view themselves as superior to other races and ethnicities, so I'm guessing any pairing could be a real shit show!

And, no matter the country in which the parents decided to settle, any children would be "half-breeds," with all the negatives that inevitably accompany that status. The problem with ubermenschen is that they place a high value on the purity of the bloodline, which doesn't make for a hospitable attitude toward mutts.

Which means, if the parents (or parent) moves to a third country (assuming they can), then they won't be doing anything to help either Russia's or China's demographic problem. Same thing if the child leaves when they're older and on their own. I guess it's an occupational hazard for any "Master Race" that they either eliminate or alienate any who don't meet their purity standards.

[DramaFree11]

We are certainly not listening to you. The fact is Russia has been on the offensive for 3 months and achieved nothing. Ukraine can probably take back half of Donbass with 10 Leopards given the Russians have murdered most of their own forces.

You will have no military left in 10 months. You guys truly are delusional.

[GDreams]

You guys truly live in a Fantasy world. Ukraine is done. The sooner they figure that out, many lives will be saved, we can move on, and we will avoid World War 3. Sometimes I actually believe this is what you want. You wanted a war, now we all have to deal with the consequences, and Ukraine is being destroyed, but in your liberal world this might be a win.

Ukraine military has out performed every ones expectations, but they are done and the support from their allies is slowing down. If there government was not so corrupt who knows what might have happened, but they always have to cheat, lie and steal. You guys watch CNN and All the other crap networks. The sad part is your actually believe there Crap.

We are certainly not listening to you. The fact is Russia has been on the offensive for 3 months and achieved nothing. Ukraine can probably take back half of Donbass with 10 Leopards given the Russians have murdered most of their own forces.

[Jmsuttr]

Today Russia has got her own KKK, namely Kaliningrad Region, Kuril Islands and Krim (Crimea) as the most fortified and strategic regions of the country. Would you expect to cede Hawaii to Chinese, San Diego to Mexico and Chesapeake Bay to, let's say, the British? Nope. How successful would Mexico be in retaking control of Texas should we supply it with tanks, ammunition and finance the conflict? Nonsense, it would never happen. So, how do you think Crimea is different? The thing that had pissed the agencies in the West was the secrecy, the boldness and the swiftness of the 2014 operation which was achieved without even one round shot and almost with complete support of the local population.

The other important distinction was the decision in Moscow to support the region, the administration and the people who opposed the right wing nationalistic coup, but at the same not to extend the same support in other regions of Ukraine, where the opposition and resistance to the coup was ultimately defeated by all known dictatorial means. In the recent interview the Russian President admitted that the country in that time was not ready to offer such support on one hand, and relied on the process of negotiations on the other.

'The Crimea is ours and always will be' - the WWII poster below.

'Ours' meaning of course Russian belonging to the people of Crimea. Ukrainians, Russians, Crimean Tatars, Greeks etc. But not to Germany, Britain, Poland, France, Turkey or any other country.

A: Because he's a cowardly clown!

I responded directly to your bogus assertions with clear evidence that debunks any so-called claim of Russia over Crimea. The full post isn't very far down the page, so it's obvious that you chose to ignore, rather than address it. That's a clear mark of cowardice AND a tacit admission that you're unable to refute the facts presented. As to those facts, here's a short excerpt:

Russia OFFICIALLY recognized Ukrainian independence in August 1991.

If Russia had any territorial claims to make, or any objection to the referendum being held in Crimea, or the Donbas, that was the time to raise the issue. All the events of 1991 detailed above are conclusive evidence that Crimea, Donbas, and ALL the territory of the Ukraine SSR, were considered part of the newly independent Ukraine. And that fact was officially recognized by Russia, Ukraine itself, and the world at large.

In 1997 two treaties were signed between Ukraine and Russia. One was the "Partition Treaty on the Status and Conditions of the Black Sea Fleet," and the other was the "Russian-Ukrainian Friendship Treaty" In neither of those treaties did Russia seek to exert a claim on Crimea or any other area.

Two additional points re 1997:

1. As part of the Friendship Treaty, BOTH nations recognized the inviolability of EXISTING borders. And those borders included Crimea + Donbas as part of Ukraine (see 1991).

2. As part of the Black Sea Fleet Status Treaty, by agreeing to pay Ukraine for the lease of the naval base at Sevastopol, Russia explicitly recognized it as sovereign Ukrainian territory. They, Russia, were leasing from the owner, Ukraine.

I could go on, but there's no need.

All the source links are contained in my original post. But you won't check them, or even acknowledge them, because you've clearly shown your cowardly stripes.

Here's an interesting question I'm sure the forum would find fascinating: Are you the kind of coward who, when confronted, pisses himself in public? Or are you the kind of coward who slinks off to his hole and pisses himself in private?

I'm guessing you're the second kind. Maybe we should start a forum poll, eh? Or maybe it doesn't even matter, 'cause either way you're still a cowardly self-pisser.

[Jmsuttr]

You guys truly live in a Fantasy world. Ukraine is done. The sooner they figure that out, many lives will be saved, we can move on, and we will avoid World War 3. Sometimes I actually believe this is what you want. You wanted a war, now we all have to deal with the consequences, and Ukraine is being destroyed, but in your liberal world this might be a win.

Ukraine military has out performed every ones expectations, but they are done and the support from their allies is slowing down. If there government was not so corrupt who knows what might have happened, but they always have to cheat, lie and steal. You guys watch CNN and All the other crap networks. The sad part is your actually believe there Crap.

You have a preferred narrative that you CHOOSE to believe. And yet you accuse others of the same thing. It's classic projection, nothing more.

You claim Ukraine is done, but you have no factual basis for that statement. Ukraine continues to fight and continues to amass battlefield assets from Western allies.

If Ukraine was truly "done," as you claim, then Russia would have already won (defined as taking and holding additional territory) or would be in the process of visibly winning. There are zero objective facts to support that position.

Not only has Russia been pushed back from territory they previously held, but even their singular push to capture one city (Bakhmut) has languished for almost 10 months.

While I don't have a crystal ball as to the eventual outcome, the CURRENT state of affairs blows your thesis out of the water. You really should take your cracked crystall ball to the repair shop.

P.S. I guess in your preferred fantasy world, you've forgotten that Putin gave the order to start the war. Nobody forced him, and neither Ukraine or NATO posed any credible threat. So, either Putin is somebody's puppet or else he's 100% responsible for starting the war.

P. P.S. Russia is the uber-corrupt kleptocracy of all time. Any corruption that plagued, or plagues, Ukraine is a product of their time in the USSR. It will take years to root out, but membership in the EU is a key motivator and Ukraine is taking positive steps. This isn't optional for them, because survival requires EU (and NATO) membership and anti-corruption measures (real, not window dressing) are required before membership will be considered or granted. Russia, meanwhile, continues in a corrupt death spiral that will end up with them becoming nothing more a larger version of North Korea. An isolated pariah state. Good riddance!

[Questner]

Today Russia has got her own KKK, namely Kaliningrad Region, Kuril Islands and Krim (Crimea) as the most fortified and strategic regions of the country. Would you expect to cede Hawaii to Chinese, San Diego to Mexico and Chesapeake Bay to, let's say, the British? Nope. How successful would Mexico be in retaking control of Texas should we supply it with tanks, ammunition and finance the conflict? Nonsense, it would never happen. So, how do you think Crimea is different? The thing that had pissed the agencies in the West was the secrecy, the boldness and the swiftness of the 2014 operation which was achieved without even one round shot and almost with complete support of the local population.

The other important distinction was the decision in Moscow to support the region, the administration and the people who opposed the right wing nationalistic coup, but at the same not to extend the same support in other regions of Ukraine, where the opposition and resistance to the coup was ultimately defeated by all known dictatorial means. In the recent interview the Russian President admitted that the country in that time was not ready to offer such support on one hand, and relied on the process of negotiations on the other.

'The Crimea is ours and always will be' - the WWII poster below.

'Ours' meaning of course Russian belonging to the people of Crimea. Ukrainians, Russians, Crimean Tatars, Greeks etc. But not to Germany, Britain, Poland, France, Turkey or any other country.

[Xpartan]

One possibility is, since there's an excess of Chinese men over women (one child policy effects), for Russian women to mate with Chinese men. While that might produce more children, it creates a new set of problems. In which country will those children live? Also, if they're half-Russian and half-Chinese, will either country fully accept them? And, if they don't feel fully accepted in Russia or China, what's to keep them from going somewhere else?

Russian girls who would be interested in mating with the Chinese would have an intention to leave stepmother-Russia behind and shut the door behind them. As much as they might get a buyer's remorse later on (because China is not exactly a promised land), their intention would be to relocate to China.

Also I think it was you who reported official Chinese dating commercials on Russian TV. I don't know if China would easily let children of Chinese citizens leave the country.

[Jmsuttr]

While the war has obviously received the lion's share of recent attention, other significant developments are flying under the radar. One of these is demographics, specifically the negative trends seen in both Russia and China.

https://english.elpais.com/opinion/t...inas-ages.html

China is obviously dealing with the effects of their one child policy, which is no longer in place. They're struggling to reverse those effects, but that's a topic better addressed in a separate post (and perhaps even in a different forum).

What's more relevant here is the situation Russia is facing. In addition to an already low birthrate, they're experiencing an out-migration of a significant number of men and women, as well as the untimely deaths of military-age males. In fact, the article quotes another publication (The Economist) as saying "A demographic tragedy is unfolding in Russia. Over the past three years the country has lost around two million more people than it would ordinarily have done, as a result of war, disease and exodus. The life expectancy of Russian males aged 15 fell by almost five years, to the same level as in Haiti".

Of course, the Soviets lost millions of men in WW-II, but the USSR was larger than Russia and the birthrate was higher. A low birthrate might possibly be addressed by inward migration, but (IMO) Putin's Russia and Xi's China are not exactly first-choice destinations for most migrants. So, unless things change, China's problems will likely continue along their current course while Russia's problems will very likely accelerate.

One possibility is, since there's an excess of Chinese men over women (one child policy effects), for Russian women to mate with Chinese men. While that might produce more children, it creates a new set of problems. In which country will those children live? Also, if they're half-Russian and half-Chinese, will either country fully accept them? And, if they don't feel fully accepted in Russia or China, what's to keep them from going somewhere else?

A French philosopher (Comte) is quoted as saying "Demography is destiny". That's rather ominous as it's hard to see much in the way of effective solutions on the horizon for Russia or China. BTW, none of this is meant to downplay the demographic challenges facing many Western countries. Those certainly exist, but in many cases they're (at least partially) offset by immigration.

[DramaFree11]

I don't believe Ukraine will be forcing any kind of vote on Crimea. They will retake it if only to devoid Russia an opportunity to launch another attack in the future using the peninsula, as well as to destroy the "habitat" of the Russia's Black Sea Fleet.

It's really not a matter of choice to Ukrainians if they don't want to repeat the same mistakes they made in 2014.

Agreed. If Ukraine liberates the mainland south and destroys the bridge, it's game over for the Russians. A great example of how this works is Russia's retreat from the right bank of Kherson Oblast. They fled because the Ukrainians destroyed supply routes. Same strategy may work on Crimea.

You guys truly live in a Fantasy world. Ukraine is done. The sooner they figure that out, many lives will be saved, we can move on, and we will avoid World War 3. Sometimes I actually believe this is what you want. You wanted a war, now we all have to deal with the consequences, and Ukraine is being destroyed, but in your liberal world this might be a win.

Ukraine military has out performed every ones expectations, but they are done and the support from their allies is slowing down. If there government was not so corrupt who knows what might have happened, but they always have to cheat, lie and steal. You guys watch CNN and All the other crap networks. The sad part is your actually believe there Crap.