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05-23-23 03:51 #28680
Posts: 1386Originally Posted by DonMedellin [View Original Post]
As for how to afford, it depends on what you want, no? You could live a frugal life and blow most of your earnings on mongering. You could borrow and spend: this is a time honored American way, most consumers spend with money borrowed from the future including most importantly our federal government. You could find a job in DE, enabling you to spend a bigger percent of your income on FKKs cutting out travel and hotel expenses.
Of course you could make more money but that's a bit redundant IMO; I'd assume you'd want to make more money in life regardless of your urge to spend more on mongering. But if mongering provides the impetus to work harder and smarter, why not?
On seeking thread here on ISG, some guys said they spend upto 40 grand a year on sugarbabes per year. To spend at that level for multiple years, you must have saved enough, inherited a ton, or make a couple of hundred grand a year and spend all of it on sex, or borrow more and more and hope someone keeps lending you that much.
If you have no family to support, your ability to spend more (and save less) is naturally greater.
Or marry a rich lady and mooch off her wealth. Always a good idea.
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05-23-23 02:30 #28679
Posts: 1750Patricia
Originally Posted by HammerTime96 [View Original Post]
I did not see her over the last year. Is the Patricia I see mentioned recently this same original Patricia?
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05-22-23 21:37 #28678
Posts: 232How I afford multiple yearly trips to Frankfurt
Originally Posted by DonMedellin [View Original Post]
Disclaimer -.
I can only speak about myself, but here is how I afford 2 yearly trips to Frankfurt. And I've been doing it for almost 20 years and I'm now 44. I'm a software engineer, I make 6 figures and usually perform consulting jobs that last 3-7 months which allow me to have a break in between jobs.
Travel -.
The most expensive part of your trip will be travel costs. So, get yourself a Citi.com credit card with travel rewards that earn 1 travel point for every dollar you spend.
https://www.citi.com/credit-cards/ci...travel&afc=1C1
I've used my points to purchase airline tickets almost yearly since I first got the card and I use my card for everything and pay the bill off every month.
On their travel booking portal site I look for the cheapest (lowest point) flight from San Francisco to Frankfurt and it usually ranges from 22 K-35 K points for a one way. Their portal works similar to Orbitz, Travelocity, etc. And you can look at flights over an entire month and see what day in the month has the cheapest (lowest points) flights.
Icelandic Air (out of business now) used to run 1 way flights from San Francisco to Frankfurt for $230 one way. Many times I would just save my points because the flight was so cheap or use my points on just the return trip.
Travel advice. Constantly scan the internet for cheap travel tickets. Use a combination of cheap tickets with travel points and save yourself those expensive costs like me.
Hotel -.
This would normally be the second most expensive part of your trip, if you stayed in hotels. I almost always stay at Hostels (Hostels.com), not hotels and you can get a bed in most Frankfurt hostels for 25 Euro / night.
Airbnb just advertised a new service they have where you can rent single rooms in a house / apartment so I'm currently checking those out for my next Euro trip (Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Zurich).
A lot of the hostels also include a cheap continental breakfast so that will also save you money. And on most days where I visit an FKK, I show up in the early afternoon when lunch is still being served and I eat at least 2-3 times before I leave, so that takes care of lunch and dinner.
Hotel advice. In addition to constantly scanning the internet for cheap flights, I also keep track of prices for hostels and sometimes hotels (simple search on days I might travel), as they change depending on the time of year and if there is a convention in town. So I'm always looking!
Transportation. Most guys will call a taxi, Uber or rent a car to get around and that can add up. Not me!
I usually book my hostel (5 Elements Hostel Frankfurt) right near the Frankfurt main train station (hauptbahnhof).
From this station I can take the light rail to Mainhatten, the subway (with only 1 transfer) to Palace and intercity rail (2 stops) right to Darmstadt station then only a short 12 min taxi ride to Sharks. Oase used to have a free shuttle that would pick you up right in front of the main station and drop you off at Oase for free, but has stopped running it since Covid. You can take the train to Oase, which I did a few months ago, but it's a little more involved and ended up having to take a taxi back to Frankfurt which cost me 50 Euros.
Transporation advice. Try and stay near the main train stations as most Euro transportation is cheap, fast and accessable. So learn the train schedules (all online). I usually just use google search and google does a GREAT job of showing all trains, buses, routes and schedules. So you don't miss the last train from Sharks to Frankfurt at 1:42 AM.
Clubs costs -.
I'll admit hitting a club at least every other day for a multiple week trip can add up, but I try and maximize the entrance fee by eating multiple times and using the facilities, shower, sauna, etc.
Club advice. You aren't going to get around the admission costs, but you can look online at the clubs websites and almost all clubs have some discount times or days where they will reduce the entrance cost (ex. 50 E down from 65 E if you show up before 2 PM or discount Wednesdays, Sundays, etc) and many clubs outside Frankfurt have a cheaper entrance fee than the Hessen (Frankfurt) clubs.
Girl costs -.
This is my most expensive cost for each trip. If you read everything above you can see I skimp on all other costs so I can spend the most in this area. And as I stated above I'm now 44, but when I was 24-37 I could easily do 5-6 rooms per FKK visit, with costs of 50 E for entrance, 50 E per 30 min (which always included BBBJ), which would be roughly $300/ visit. Now with the increase in prices from a standard 50 E for 30 min to most women wanting 100 Euro for 30 min (including BBBJ) I usually only do 2-3 rooms. This price increase is due in part to the 2017 law that was passed by the German Gov't. If you want more info you can PM me as I have posted about this multiple times. Most punters on this site aren't familiar with this law and what it did to the punting world and try to attribute the increase in prices to tourists, but they're wrong!
Girl advice. Calculate how much you want to spend on the girls (ex. How many visits per vacation, how many girls per visit, plus entrance fee and transportation to get to the club). There are still lots of girls that will give you 50 E for min sessions in the Hessen clubs but you have to negotiate and most of them will be day shifters. Once the club starts filling up around 7-8 PM the girls shift and all demand 100. I do lots of negotiating now, as I'm so familiar with the old 50 E pricing that I can get lots of the girls to settle for 50 after I've worn them down for a while. My trick is to watch them and see how in demand they are, if they are going into the rooms a lot, they will demand 100, but if you see a girl that has been sitting around for the last 1-2 hours with no rooms, you can in many cases talk her down to 50 if it's later in the night and it looks like she needs the money. But it all depends on your negotiating skills.
Hope this advice helps -.
BPB.
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05-22-23 21:30 #28677
Posts: 88Line Up, Sunday 21.5. (and many more girls).
Alea GR (Greece), Alexis RO, Alina MD, Alona RU (Russia), Amara (Iran / Persia) new! Grew up in Germany, America VE (Venezuela), Amy RO, Anjelica LV (Latvia), Audrey GH (Ghana), Becky RO, Bianca RO "tall and blond hair", Brenda RO, Briana RO, Cami RO, Carolina RO, Catalea RO, Celine RO, Chanel HU (Hungary), Chayenne MD, Chloe RO, Christina RO, Claudia RO, Dunja RS (Serbia), Emma RO, Esther RO, Gabriela RO, Hanny RO new!, Ica (RS-RO), Jana DE, Julie MD, Kalila RO (ex Harmony), Katalina RO, Kisha KE (Kenia), Kristal BG "red", Lara DE, Lea DE, "black hair ex Magnum", Lea DE "blond hair", Lena RO, Lilia DE, Liz RO, Liv RO ex "Becki", Maria ZA (South Africa) "Blacky", Melanie RO, Melina RO "curly afro hair", Melissa RO "red", Melody (Iran / Persia) new! Grew up in Germany, Natascha (Macedonia) "dark blond" new name: Sophia, Nelly RO, Niko RO, Patricia MD, Rebecca RO (place was / is next to "Brenda" at the front left of the bar), Sandy CO, Samy RO, Sarah RO, Sky RO, Tamara RO, Vanessa RO, Victoria CZ-RO "blond hair", Victoria RO "black hair", Vivien DE.
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05-22-23 21:29 #28676
Posts: 22446Originally Posted by DonMedellin [View Original Post]
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05-22-23 20:48 #28675
Posts: 15Which RLD?
Originally Posted by KingAmir [View Original Post]
Frankfurt RLD?
Frankfurt FKK?
Amsterdam RLD?
Those are about the extent of my options in proximity to airports, but might be able to look at other options if the quality is superior.
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05-22-23 20:31 #28674
Posts: 557With silicone
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05-22-23 20:09 #28673
Posts: 88Been at Sharks on Sunday, 21.5. early noon 30 CDL on arrival, late evening over 100 girls on departure. Sunbathed between rooms for a long time, but was still too cold in the pool. Food was OK, eggs and toast for late breakfast, cakes in the afternoon and pasta / cheese / tomato casserole for dinner.
1st room.
Lea DE, ex "Magnum" (was briefly at Sharks), approx. Mid-20's / maybe a bit older, 175 cm, CF 36, "F-Cups" super nicely trimmed, great shape and a dream to the touch, black hair, straight and forever long, brown eyes, medium skin, great teeth, very pretty, slim and crisp figure, an optical and body flash to my taste. Standard Service, everything protected, good blow with spit inserts and horny looks, 3 positions with proper counter pressures from her, moaning was a bit artificial but within limits, pulls me in the missio on my hips and also on the shoulders, also fondles the balls herself, during the ride I adjust my boobs without restrictions, there were a few cuddle kisses for the neck and chest in between, good room for me, time kept, 70/30. Place was/is seen from the entrance, directly to the left of the dance podium, on the upper couch..
I met the girl in the breakfast room, blown away, grinned at her, she returned, brief introduction and she asked me if I would like to have breakfast with her in the garden. Of course I want that and at the same time I think to myself: In life she doesn't kiss, but that would still be 100. We had a fun conversation while eating, the woman is easygoing and funny, I'd better eat her right away. And then "dare" me to ask the core question. 100 for half, without any kisses, with licking, she said. That was clear, right? I answered her calmly and without fussing: If you don't kiss and I want no licking and I don't do anything without a hat, I'd be there for 70. Silence with a bit of thoughtful looking. And I then add: Well, I think that's fair without FK, isn't it? And she nods, stands up, I take her arm a bit so that she doesn't get stuck in the lawn with her squats. And she discreetly gives me "one" to take with me while we stroll towards the hall: That's an exception, I like you and I like your way, but don't get too excited about it, next time we'll be at 100. Me: All right, I'll do it, but then only with FK, it's not my fault, I'll give you the 100 for full contact, I like much what I see, you're really nice and you're kind of my thing. After that, nothing more came from both of us on this subject. No, no, she won't kiss 100%, GFE no way, I have to and do accept it. Too bad!
2nd room.
Kisha KE (Kenya), around Mid-20's, 169 cm, CF 36, be-cups natural and very slightly "hanging", hair shoulder-length, straight, black with "golden"? Highlights, brown eyes, black skin, white teeth, pretty and very figurative. An approachable girl, happy, funny and with a refreshing attitude. Standard service with licking nipples, protected blow to heat things up, rider and missio was good, overall fully engaged, time kept, 50/30. Place is behind the bar on the roundabout..
Line Up (and many more girls).
Alea GR (Greece)
Alexis RO
Alina MD
Alona RU (Russia)
Amara (Iran / Persia), new!, grew up in Germany
America VE (Venezuela)
Amy RO
Anjelica LV (Latvia)
Audrey GH (Ghana)
Becky RO..
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05-22-23 20:01 #28672
Posts: 37Originally Posted by HammerTime96 [View Original Post]
I went to Frankfurt before Corona and I paid 50 for 30 min.
I went again on September 2022, and now it's 100 eru for 30 min! 100% up!
Crazy that people pay this amount of money for a pussy for only 30 min!
In red-light district, they can find even better quality for cheaper.
For now, I will not go to Frankfurt again until the price goes down.
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05-22-23 15:45 #28671
Posts: 725Originally Posted by DonMedellin [View Original Post]
Reality is: most people aren't able to afford it anymore, hence a serious drop in male visitors to a place like Sharks which is really quite empty compared to 2019. Just a little bit of German FKK history: sessions used to cost only 50 Euros in 2019 (and not "hundreds per session" as you wrote) so having some fun once in a while in an FKK club was quite doable for most middle class people. However, this changed once FKK clubs were flooded by a bunch of simps who are just as stupid as they were desperate and horny after 2,5 years of this so-called 'pandemic. ' As the saying goes: "a fool and his money are soon parted.".
P.S. Funny anecdote: about 1 month ago I was chilling upstairs and I was approached by a small group of 6-7 really nice Chinese visitors who asked me what the prices were. I told them: "it used to be 50430, but now most girls demand 100430" and they were completely stunned. It turns out that the last time they were in Sharks was in 2019 and they were used to paying 50430 and thought that they were suddenly getting ripped off or refused by girls just because they were foreigners. They spent the whole afternoon and evening walking around, sitting around, smoking cigarettes and chatting to each other, and I'm pretty sure that nearly all of the guys in that group left Sharks unfucked that night. So finally some of the Asians are now waking up to the fact that they are getting ripped off by this 100430 and are refusing (or are unable) to pay these crazy prices. Now I guess we just need to wait for the Japanese and the Gringos to wake up, and then things can slowly return to normal again in FKK Land.
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05-22-23 13:45 #28670
Posts: 177Originally Posted by DonMedellin [View Original Post]
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05-22-23 13:00 #28669
Posts: 5709Originally Posted by DonMedellin [View Original Post]
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05-22-23 07:06 #28668
Posts: 22446Originally Posted by YamaYama0519 [View Original Post]
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05-22-23 02:58 #28667
Posts: 557Patricia
Originally Posted by HammerTime96 [View Original Post]
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05-21-23 21:58 #28666
Posts: 115Hoping I am not breaking the rule
Not Sharks related, but I am curious, what do you all do for living? I can only afford to go to Europe once in several years, that's why I've been going to South America. I want to make more money. Is anyone willing to share how you afford on spending hundreds per session, and session after session? My DM is also open, so maybe drop me a Hi? Thanks!