Seeking Arrangements

[Ggekko2009]

Yeah don't want to go too political here either and caveat is I've only visited. But I would say I would say in nice European towns and villages there is a more old world feel. Classier. More respectful. Charming might be the word? The US feels like one big crass commercial these days in so many ways. Maybe I'm getting old but I like something a bit more classic and traditional (in my relationships too! Where women are women, not men. LOL).

Same here. In a decade or two, I will definitely be retiring anywhere else other than the US. Although I am not so much into Europe. Good to visit as a tourist but can't see myself living there. Just visited Lisbon and Madrid. Don't see the hype of these two cities or countries. Panama is still my preferred destination.

[Steve 9696]

Not intending to make this beautiful forum political. So, looking for a one line high level answer, Steve.

Why do you say leave US? Political climate or economical climate or something else?

I definitely am not liking US after living in Europe. Want to move back not just because SA sucks (seriously. That is a minor part of larger life) but because overall it seems "blah". Money is great but that's about it.

So, curious why you said what you said.

Yeah don't want to go too political here either and caveat is I've only visited. But I would say I would say in nice European towns and villages there is a more old world feel. Classier. More respectful. Charming might be the word? The US feels like one big crass commercial these days in so many ways. Maybe I'm getting old but I like something a bit more classic and traditional (in my relationships too! Where women are women, not men. LOL).

[Gfefan]

I am definitely laughing it off. One last chance to SA in US.

These bitches are not worth synthesizing stress hormones.

I am visiting Germany, Spain, Belgium in July. Back to my old SBs. They make me release dopamine.

Welcome to America LOLOLOL! I got hit with scam number 1. In fact, I had already driven to the restaurant and got a table. I just told the obvious fraudster "good try", blocked whoever it was and laughed it off, and then enjoyed a nice meal out. At least I didn't have to drive far at all. But now maybe you have seen in short order exactly what I'm talking about all the time. Welcome LMAO! Not laughing at you but at the BS that is Seeking in America (the only place I have ever used it). We can either laugh or stay mad. I choose the former (as well as not giving Seeking anymore of my hard earned money)!

[Gfefan]

Not intending to make this beautiful forum political. So, looking for a one line high level answer, Steve.

Why do you say leave US? Political climate or economical climate or something else?

I definitely am not liking US after living in Europe. Want to move back not just because SA sucks (seriously. That is a minor part of larger life) but because overall it seems "blah". Money is great but that's about it.

So, curious why you said what you said.

USA sucks in soooo many ways these days. Not just girls. Def move back to Europe if you can imo.

Ouch on the scam 2 hrs before. I've hit this twice in maybe 50 dates and it was years ago. But damn it's the worst because you are all primed and ready and May have even driven to the date. Total biatches in this one. Boo.

[The Cane]

Will be in SFO soon. Started SA reluctantly because I know US socks.

1. Setup time for meet and greet. Sends pics, chats. Wr agree on time and bar.

Two hours before. Hey, I need to find caretakers for my grampys. Could you send $? Here is my cashapp. I say anything possible but we first meet. No $ before meet. She goes "you think I will come for free? My time is valuable".

I didn't tell her my time is valuable too. But simply blocked her.

2. Claims to be a student. That too a PhD. I ask what field etc. She claims a field on which I did Masters. I poke further. Loses steam and goes "I was scared and deenrolled".

3. 2nd message goes "I need $800 for meet and greet. I don't waste time".

This is such a large amount of weeds.

Talking to my employer about transferring back to Europe in 2024. Shithole.

Welcome to America LOLOLOL! I got hit with scam number 1. In fact, I had already driven to the restaurant and got a table. I just told the obvious fraudster "good try", blocked whoever it was and laughed it off, and then enjoyed a nice meal out. At least I didn't have to drive far at all. But now maybe you have seen in short order exactly what I'm talking about all the time. Welcome LMAO! Not laughing at you but at the BS that is Seeking in America (the only place I have ever used it). We can either laugh or stay mad. I choose the former (as well as not giving Seeking anymore of my hard earned money)!

[Steve 9696]

Will be in SFO soon. Started SA reluctantly because I know US socks.

1. Setup time for meet and greet. Sends pics, chats. Wr agree on time and bar.

Two hours before. Hey, I need to find caretakers for my grampys. Could you send $? Here is my cashapp. I say anything possible but we first meet. No $ before meet. She goes "you think I will come for free? My time is valuable".

I didn't tell her my time is valuable too. But simply blocked her.

2. Claims to be a student. That too a PhD. I ask what field etc. She claims a field on which I did Masters. I poke further. Loses steam and goes "I was scared and deenrolled".

3. 2nd message goes "I need $800 for meet and greet. I don't waste time".

This is such a large amount of weeds.

Talking to my employer about transferring back to Europe in 2024. Shithole.

USA sucks in soooo many ways these days. Not just girls. Def move back to Europe if you can imo.

Ouch on the scam 2 hrs before. I've hit this twice in maybe 50 dates and it was years ago. But damn it's the worst because you are all primed and ready and May have even driven to the date. Total biatches in this one. Boo.

[Gfefan]

Will be in SFO soon. Started SA reluctantly because I know US socks.

1. Setup time for meet and greet. Sends pics, chats. Wr agree on time and bar.

Two hours before. Hey, I need to find caretakers for my grampys. Could you send $? Here is my cashapp. I say anything possible but we first meet. No $ before meet. She goes "you think I will come for free? My time is valuable".

I didn't tell her my time is valuable too. But simply blocked her.

2. Claims to be a student. That too a PhD. I ask what field etc. She claims a field on which I did Masters. I poke further. Loses steam and goes "I was scared and deenrolled".

3. 2nd message goes "I need $800 for meet and greet. I don't waste time".

This is such a large amount of weeds.

Talking to my employer about transferring back to Europe in 2024. Shithole.

[Alex7J]

Howdy all. I'm a longtime Seeker. Usually in Latin America. Got a trip coming up to Eastern Europe. But I'm flexible on where in Eastern Europe. I'the love to go where seeking is bangin. But all of the cities I poke around in have very limited options. Like when I look at Estonian or Romanian cities, girls 18-24, there are only a small handful, which means maybe a few are actually active and available. I know from a lot of experience that the best cities are the ones where there are tons of options and you can pick and choose.

Anyone know which Eastern European cities are hopping for this activity?

Belgrade in Serbia.

And you will go crazy with the SA women.

Or Istanbul in Turkey.

I know it's not EE but you will get everything on SA.

Peace.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks for sharing. Could you please post the experience in Madrid? Especially prices paid. Thanks!

I've had three girls there. $300-400 seems the going rate. There will be higher asks. But you should find a 7-8 girl in this range. And of course Vive is fun if u prefer in person nightclub selection. 250/hr.

[FastMdSter]

Just left London today and I'm currently in Vienna.

Started the sorting process about 3 weeks prior to trip. Basically, to sort out all the pros. A lot of pros, so if was going that rout prefer Diva, Babylon etc.

Narrowed the list down to 5. Did VC / FaceTime etc with them to check vibe and seriousness. 4 out of the 5 were in constant contact, I. E. Multiple texts / pics during the day.

3 of the 4 seemed really excited about meeting. So was going through the mental brain damage of narrowing it down to 1-2 because my trip got shortened. Would have only an evening, next morning / early afternoon before leaving.

My type: 8. 5+.

Blonde / Brunette.

5'3".

Super fit.

White / European.

Under 30.

The day before my trip one of them asked what time the next day I was leaving so she can plan her work schedule. Which I knew she was coming to pound town and staying over. She was lives in Manchester and works as an aesthetician.

Then she asked if I would pay for her train ticket. Started to think she was trying to pull a low key scam, but told her to send me the link. She chose the economy ticket and it was only 120 £ round trip, so even if she flaked no big loss.

I having been staying at the Mandrake lately in London and it's a great 5* boutique hotel near Mayfair etc. Has a great bar / lounge, the vibe is very nightclub like, rooms are great. Turns into a club lounge in evenings. Has only 35 rooms. But has large lounge right in the middle of the hotel. A little pricey about 700 £ a night for a king room with terrace etc but the vibe is worth it. They have vibrators, gels, silk ropes, blindfolds etc in your room if you want them (but have to pay). The key holder for your room is one of those whip things.

Paula shows up to the bar where I was waiting for her in casual attire but looking crazy attire. First thing she said was don't worry my heels and dress are in my bag. She has 2 drinks, I'm deep into Michters bottle. We go up she goes into the bathroom, does her makeup, comes out in an incredible dress and we head out.

Dinner: Koyn-Mayfair, a favorite sushi / Japanese restaurant of mine. Great dinner, drinks, we are vibing. She's polish, I speak fluent polish so she is now in an even better happier place.

Head back to hotel. Bar closed. MGR says you can drink whatever you want as long as it comes out of a bottle, he doesn't make cocktails LOL.

Have a few more drinks head up. From elevator to room action starts. One in room she gives whatever I want except anal, asks me not cip because she is not on bc. I give her oral first she has a screaming orgasm. Then gives me an incredible BBBJ. Then I pound her out in every position, we take water breaks and I bust in her mouth.

Wash up. Go to bed. Wake up. Go down for breakfast. Come back. Fuck again. Shower, call her an Uber. Slip 300 £ in her bag, she has never asked for any money and she goes to the train and I head to airport.

Total damage:

120 £ train.

Dinner:400 £.

Bar:80 £.

Uber:15 £.

Voluntary donation:300 £.

I don't count dinner and drinks as cost of fun because I would go to such places anyway.

Great experience. She has texted me all day.

Vienna right now is looking like a bust on SA. Flakey.

Turned my tinder Profile on. Let's see.

Otherwise, plenty of pros.

[Chola]

Thanks for sharing. Could you please post the experience in Madrid? Especially prices paid. Thanks!

I was in MAD March and GRU early May (will share later), and just finished my 8 days MEX trip and it was disappointing this time.

[DramaFree11]

I was in MAD March and GRU early May (will share later), and just finished my 8 days MEX trip and it was disappointing this time.

Been to CDMX since 2020 and the experiences were very good before until this trip.

- 2020 H2, 1 trip and surprised to see the good SA scene and ROI.

- 2021,5 trips and felt that I was enjoying the best part of my life. Saw several 9/10's with <$200 budget PPM.

- 2022,4 trips, things get slightly worse in H2, price higher and girls (8/9/10's) are more picky but still very good.

- 2023, only 1 trip so far due to RTO and more work, this trip make me rank BRU, BCN, why MAD higher than CDMX now.

Unsuccessful (SAname / WTname / IDcardname if avlbl).

- Babyly0/ Daniela, 20 yo and a 7 based on picture and asked for 4000. She ghosted me in the last min. Fortunately I double booked with Fernanda for 2 hours later.

- Enixos / Fernanda, 27 yo musician and a 7/8 base on picture. Asked for 6000. The moment that we met, I realized that she is too thick for me (pictures lie) and I decided to let her go. I gave her 200 to uber back home and told her that I have a urgent work.

- SweetBabe / Daniela, 25 yo and a 8 from the picture, asked for 10 k and I ghosted her and didn't reply.

- Mar29/ Ingrid, 25 yo and a 8/9. She didn't share her expectations and we met in restaurant directly. She is pretty but slightly wider than I normally date, we had a good conv in dinner, but she wants mensual of 60 k and has rule of not having intimacy on 1st date. So I let her go. I re-read her profile and realized that if girl is asking mensual / semanal, it will not a good idea to meet if both parties not agree on PPM first. Lessons learned.

Successful.

- Amy / Emma / Sofia (name on her INE), a 6/7 and 5,000 mxn ppm. She is 23 (INE) however she listed as 26 on SA and her face looks more like 26/27.

First time to see her in this trip. She is wider in person than picture which I almost decided to let her go when we met.

However she dress well with cute baby fat face, and her English is good. We had good conv during dinner and I brought her back to room. I decided to let her go after 1 pop because my little brother didn't like heavy gal.

- Diamond / Paloma, a 8, visiting CDMX, the best new gal in this trip, beside Sofia. Petite and thin, know how to provide good service (the downside is she definitely has more mileages, more like a pro). $6000 for 2 pops.

- Mika, 21 yo student. Petite and slim on picture and in person, however she has a lot of tattoos which turned me off. 8/9 by picture, but 7 in real life. She told me that she decide to see me is bcoz I am reletively young (41 yo) and without bigotes, otherwise she won't even reply to me. Anyway, bed activities are good, BBBJ CIM etc, 2 pops for 6000 mxn. She could be a keeper if the cost can be lower, but not for $350 USD.

Sofia, a 9 and 22 yo student, who I started to see her since 2020 with 3,000 mxn PPM. I saw her on my 1st and last day during this trip because I was ghosted on my last day. She speaks decent ingles, however she is no longer on SA now. I always have good vibes with her and she has a certain trust in me thus talk a lot, she let me read whatsapp messages on her burner phone. Some interesting things -.

- She is willing to see me is because that she know me well and love to enjoy nice dinner and fxxk together with me.

- She has a mensual SD from TX, who sent her $500 USD every month, but the guy has never seen her 2023. She is happy to keep receiving money without the needs of meeting her SD. Did someone on this forum forgot to turn off the autopayment?

- There are a lot of Asian guys in Mexico and they pay much higher, she met a Chinese guy who offer 10 K PPM and saw her many times when the guy was visiting CDMX. This remind me that sex in Shanghai was ridiculous expensive.

- There are much more guys on SA than before, mostly are foreigners and are offering much higher PPM. Because of this, her asking price was $8 K PPM when she was still on SA early this year, which I believe is true by whatsapping with those 9/10's recently.

Viri, 24 yo, an 8 with very thin body and a Bee. I met her twice last year. She has a full time job now and she is no longer on SA. 3500 for 6 hours together, very exhausted. The only downside is that she didn't let me finish inside because she has a novio now.

Thoughts after trip.

CDMX became much worse sugar destination.

1. the quantity of SBs is significantly lower than 2021 and 2022.

2. the 9/10 gals almost disappeared from SA. I can easily find many 9/10's before, but today it is hard to find a single one after scrolling many pages. I was in GRU 6 weeks ago, my feeling is the average Brasilia is 7, while Mexicana is 4. Huge disappointing.

3. the cost is significantly higher. In 2021/2022, oftentimes I can find 8/9/10 girls with 200 USD or even less. Today on average asking price for 8+ gals is $400 USD+ (remember MXN is very strong this year). I think this is a supply and demand issue, supply side given covid is gone and things are getting back to normal, fewer girls are on SA. On demand side, tons of Asian companies are building companies in Mexico, so there are a lot of Asians in CDMX now and they pay eastern Asian sex price, which are notoriously high. In contrast, in GRU or BCN, on average I offered $150 USD and $250 EUR where I get much better quality gals speaking ingles.

4. the ghost rate is higher (supply-demand could be the cause) and traffic is worse than before (gals are even worse punctual than before).

5. the air ticket price to CDMX is no more cheap, as expense as to some EU cities.

Things still OK.

1. the SA response rate and funnel conversion rate is still good, much higher than the state.

2. CDMX is still the most convenient city for many US folks to do foreign SA.

I had good experience in BCN, MAD, and GRU. High quality gals with reasonable cost. The downside is travel distance is longer.

BTW. Medellin is also getting much worse than 2 years ago, do you guys have similar experiences?

Good report, but I disagree with most of it with exception, CDMX is expensive and High end girls are not available.

1. Asian dudes are not an issue, yes, they may pay more, but for the most part the girls do not like to date Asia. (Sorry Asia Guys, no disrespect) Also, there are lot's of Asian chicks in CDMX, they usually date other Asians.

2. There is very little competition in CDMX and lots of eligible girls. I had no issue getting girls from $175-250 (6. 5-8).

3. High end girls are difficult to find in any location now, unless you have local knowledge, high budget and some game.

As I said in my previous posts and today, CDMX is amazing if you have time, some game and a decent budget.

[Don Julio 70]

You have got mail.

Great report. I have similar experience when I visited Cdmx in Feb this year.

But I guess mongering is expensive everywhere now a days and as you said MXN is stronger now.

I was planning another trip to Cdmx this summer but decided to do MiddleEast / Asia trip (Istanbul, Dubai, India and Thailand).

All these places are now 30% more expensive than last 2 years. The same girls, I met from last year now asked more.

Only good part is they stay all nights and enjoy bed time, where in US I will pay same money for 1 HR. For shitty service.

[Pk099]

Great report. I have similar experience when I visited Cdmx in Feb this year.

But I guess mongering is expensive everywhere now a days and as you said MXN is stronger now.

I was planning another trip to Cdmx this summer but decided to do MiddleEast / Asia trip (Istanbul, Dubai, India and Thailand).

All these places are now 30% more expensive than last 2 years. The same girls, I met from last year now asked more.

Only good part is they stay all nights and enjoy bed time, where in US I will pay same money for 1 HR. For shitty service.

I was in MAD March and GRU early May (will share later), and just finished my 8 days MEX trip and it was disappointing this time.

Been to CDMX since 2020 and the experiences were very good before until this trip.

- 2020 H2, 1 trip and surprised to see the good SA scene and ROI.

- 2021,5 trips and felt that I was enjoying the best part of my life. Saw several 9/10's with <$200 budget PPM.

- 2022,4 trips, things get slightly worse in H2, price higher and girls (8/9/10's) are more picky but still very good.

- 2023, only 1 trip so far due to RTO and more work, this trip make me rank BRU, BCN, why MAD higher than CDMX now.

Unsuccessful (SAname / WTname / IDcardname if avlbl).

- Babyly0/ Daniela, 20 yo and a 7 based on picture and asked for 4000. She ghosted me in the last min. Fortunately I double booked with Fernanda for 2 hours later.

- Enixos / Fernanda, 27 yo musician and a 7/8 base on picture. Asked for 6000. The moment that we met, I realized that she is too thick for me (pictures lie) and I decided to let her go. I gave her 200 to uber back home and told her that I have a urgent work.

- SweetBabe / Daniela, 25 yo and a 8 from the picture, asked for 10 k and I ghosted her and didn't reply.

- Mar29/ Ingrid, 25 yo and a 8/9. She didn't share her expectations and we met in restaurant directly. She is pretty but slightly wider than I normally date, we had a good conv in dinner, but she wants mensual of 60 k and has rule of not having intimacy on 1st date. So I let her go. I re-read her profile and realized that if girl is asking mensual / semanal, it will not a good idea to meet if both parties not agree on PPM first. Lessons learned.

Successful.

- Amy / Emma / Sofia (name on her INE), a 6/7 and 5,000 mxn ppm. She is 23 (INE) however she listed as 26 on SA and her face looks more like 26/27.

First time to see her in this trip. She is wider in person than picture which I almost decided to let her go when we met.

However she dress well with cute baby fat face, and her English is good. We had good conv during dinner and I brought her back to room. I decided to let her go after 1 pop because my little brother didn't like heavy gal.

- Diamond / Paloma, a 8, visiting CDMX, the best new gal in this trip, beside Sofia. Petite and thin, know how to provide good service (the downside is she definitely has more mileages, more like a pro). $6000 for 2 pops.

- Mika, 21 yo student. Petite and slim on picture and in person, however she has a lot of tattoos which turned me off. 8/9 by picture, but 7 in real life. She told me that she decide to see me is bcoz I am reletively young (41 yo) and without bigotes, otherwise she won't even reply to me. Anyway, bed activities are good, BBBJ CIM etc, 2 pops for 6000 mxn. She could be a keeper if the cost can be lower, but not for $350 USD.

Sofia, a 9 and 22 yo student, who I started to see her since 2020 with 3,000 mxn PPM. I saw her on my 1st and last day during this trip because I was ghosted on my last day. She speaks decent ingles, however she is no longer on SA now. I always have good vibes with her and she has a certain trust in me thus talk a lot, she let me read whatsapp messages on her burner phone. Some interesting things -.

- She is willing to see me is because that she know me well and love to enjoy nice dinner and fxxk together with me.

- She has a mensual SD from TX, who sent her $500 USD every month, but the guy has never seen her 2023. She is happy to keep receiving money without the needs of meeting her SD. Did someone on this forum forgot to turn off the autopayment?

- There are a lot of Asian guys in Mexico and they pay much higher, she met a Chinese guy who offer 10 K PPM and saw her many times when the guy was visiting CDMX. This remind me that sex in Shanghai was ridiculous expensive.

- There are much more guys on SA than before, mostly are foreigners and are offering much higher PPM. Because of this, her asking price was $8 K PPM when she was still on SA early this year, which I believe is true by whatsapping with those 9/10's recently.

Viri, 24 yo, an 8 with very thin body and a Bee. I met her twice last year. She has a full time job now and she is no longer on SA. 3500 for 6 hours together, very exhausted. The only downside is that she didn't let me finish inside because she has a novio now.

Thoughts after trip.

CDMX became much worse sugar destination.

1. the quantity of SBs is significantly lower than 2021 and 2022.

2. the 9/10 gals almost disappeared from SA. I can easily find many 9/10's before, but today it is hard to find a single one after scrolling many pages. I was in GRU 6 weeks ago, my feeling is the average Brasilia is 7, while Mexicana is 4. Huge disappointing.

3. the cost is significantly higher. In 2021/2022, oftentimes I can find 8/9/10 girls with 200 USD or even less. Today on average asking price for 8+ gals is $400 USD+ (remember MXN is very strong this year). I think this is a supply and demand issue, supply side given covid is gone and things are getting back to normal, fewer girls are on SA. On demand side, tons of Asian companies are building companies in Mexico, so there are a lot of Asians in CDMX now and they pay eastern Asian sex price, which are notoriously high. In contrast, in GRU or BCN, on average I offered $150 USD and $250 EUR where I get much better quality gals speaking ingles.

4. the ghost rate is higher (supply-demand could be the cause) and traffic is worse than before (gals are even worse punctual than before).

5. the air ticket price to CDMX is no more cheap, as expense as to some EU cities.

Things still OK.

1. the SA response rate and funnel conversion rate is still good, much higher than the state.

2. CDMX is still the most convenient city for many US folks to do foreign SA.

I had good experience in BCN, MAD, and GRU. High quality gals with reasonable cost. The downside is travel distance is longer.

BTW. Medellin is also getting much worse than 2 years ago, do you guys have similar experiences?

[BobisTheGuy]

I was in MAD March and GRU early May (will share later), and just finished my 8 days MEX trip and it was disappointing this time.

Been to CDMX since 2020 and the experiences were very good before until this trip.

- 2020 H2, 1 trip and surprised to see the good SA scene and ROI.

- 2021,5 trips and felt that I was enjoying the best part of my life. Saw several 9/10's with <$200 budget PPM.

- 2022,4 trips, things get slightly worse in H2, price higher and girls (8/9/10's) are more picky but still very good.

- 2023, only 1 trip so far due to RTO and more work, this trip make me rank BRU, BCN, why MAD higher than CDMX now.

Unsuccessful (SAname / WTname / IDcardname if avlbl).

- Babyly0/ Daniela, 20 yo and a 7 based on picture and asked for 4000. She ghosted me in the last min. Fortunately I double booked with Fernanda for 2 hours later.

- Enixos / Fernanda, 27 yo musician and a 7/8 base on picture. Asked for 6000. The moment that we met, I realized that she is too thick for me (pictures lie) and I decided to let her go. I gave her 200 to uber back home and told her that I have a urgent work.

- SweetBabe / Daniela, 25 yo and a 8 from the picture, asked for 10 k and I ghosted her and didn't reply.

- Mar29/ Ingrid, 25 yo and a 8/9. She didn't share her expectations and we met in restaurant directly. She is pretty but slightly wider than I normally date, we had a good conv in dinner, but she wants mensual of 60 k and has rule of not having intimacy on 1st date. So I let her go. I re-read her profile and realized that if girl is asking mensual / semanal, it will not a good idea to meet if both parties not agree on PPM first. Lessons learned.

Successful.

- Amy / Emma / Sofia (name on her INE), a 6/7 and 5,000 mxn ppm. She is 23 (INE) however she listed as 26 on SA and her face looks more like 26/27.

First time to see her in this trip. She is wider in person than picture which I almost decided to let her go when we met.

However she dress well with cute baby fat face, and her English is good. We had good conv during dinner and I brought her back to room. I decided to let her go after 1 pop because my little brother didn't like heavy gal.

- Diamond / Paloma, a 8, visiting CDMX, the best new gal in this trip, beside Sofia. Petite and thin, know how to provide good service (the downside is she definitely has more mileages, more like a pro). $6000 for 2 pops.

- Mika, 21 yo student. Petite and slim on picture and in person, however she has a lot of tattoos which turned me off. 8/9 by picture, but 7 in real life. She told me that she decide to see me is bcoz I am reletively young (41 yo) and without bigotes, otherwise she won't even reply to me. Anyway, bed activities are good, BBBJ CIM etc, 2 pops for 6000 mxn. She could be a keeper if the cost can be lower, but not for $350 USD.

Sofia, a 9 and 22 yo student, who I started to see her since 2020 with 3,000 mxn PPM. I saw her on my 1st and last day during this trip because I was ghosted on my last day. She speaks decent ingles, however she is no longer on SA now. I always have good vibes with her and she has a certain trust in me thus talk a lot, she let me read whatsapp messages on her burner phone. Some interesting things -.

- She is willing to see me is because that she know me well and love to enjoy nice dinner and fxxk together with me.

- She has a mensual SD from TX, who sent her $500 USD every month, but the guy has never seen her 2023. She is happy to keep receiving money without the needs of meeting her SD. Did someone on this forum forgot to turn off the autopayment?

- There are a lot of Asian guys in Mexico and they pay much higher, she met a Chinese guy who offer 10 K PPM and saw her many times when the guy was visiting CDMX. This remind me that sex in Shanghai was ridiculous expensive.

- There are much more guys on SA than before, mostly are foreigners and are offering much higher PPM. Because of this, her asking price was $8 K PPM when she was still on SA early this year, which I believe is true by whatsapping with those 9/10's recently.

Viri, 24 yo, an 8 with very thin body and a Bee. I met her twice last year. She has a full time job now and she is no longer on SA. 3500 for 6 hours together, very exhausted. The only downside is that she didn't let me finish inside because she has a novio now.

Thoughts after trip.

CDMX became much worse sugar destination.

1. the quantity of SBs is significantly lower than 2021 and 2022.

2. the 9/10 gals almost disappeared from SA. I can easily find many 9/10's before, but today it is hard to find a single one after scrolling many pages. I was in GRU 6 weeks ago, my feeling is the average Brasilia is 7, while Mexicana is 4. Huge disappointing.

3. the cost is significantly higher. In 2021/2022, oftentimes I can find 8/9/10 girls with 200 USD or even less. Today on average asking price for 8+ gals is $400 USD+ (remember MXN is very strong this year). I think this is a supply and demand issue, supply side given covid is gone and things are getting back to normal, fewer girls are on SA. On demand side, tons of Asian companies are building companies in Mexico, so there are a lot of Asians in CDMX now and they pay eastern Asian sex price, which are notoriously high. In contrast, in GRU or BCN, on average I offered $150 USD and $250 EUR where I get much better quality gals speaking ingles.

4. the ghost rate is higher (supply-demand could be the cause) and traffic is worse than before (gals are even worse punctual than before).

5. the air ticket price to CDMX is no more cheap, as expense as to some EU cities.

Things still OK.

1. the SA response rate and funnel conversion rate is still good, much higher than the state.

2. CDMX is still the most convenient city for many US folks to do foreign SA.

I had good experience in BCN, MAD, and GRU. High quality gals with reasonable cost. The downside is travel distance is longer.

BTW. Medellin is also getting much worse than 2 years ago, do you guys have similar experiences?

Which do you prefer (MTY vs CDMX) and why?

Other than chicas, any good hiking around MTY?