Angeles City

[WestCoast1]

Best post of the year. Its almost too much to take in for one breakfast.

Somehow in all this other ladyboys start to fight with other ladyboys, slapping, punching, pulling hair. A wig got pulled off and set on fire.

Must be Thursday?

LadyBoy01 hip tosses Spinner01 and Spinner01 goes down hard in the rain wetted nasty street.

Bang!

Sailor Jack really thought he might be about to witness a murder because there are several other ladyboy fights going on as well.

Pow!

This whole fracas has lasted a good 10 minutes with Station 4 just 150 meters off and in clear sight.

They needed to call in their crack detective. Who was home. Asleep. Takes a while.

Ladyboy01 was smacking the shit out of Spinner01 with the other hand. Here Sailor Jack must admit to being quite aroused by seeing hot Spinner01 getting slapped around.

Haha do post a screen capture.

Sailor Jack noticed in the crowd a young Filipino Wierdo with his hand in his pants jerking off. Wierdo looked at Sailor Jack and sported a toothless grin.

Again, a screen capture!

Sailor Jack witnesses LadyBoy02 lift his short skirt to LadyBoy01 to reveal no underwear and - uh - some non-standard rigging.

Once again. . .

Sailor Jack feels some Mal der mer.

No! Don't pass out, you might and break your phone. That has the video.

The tourist police arrive, and all are escorted to Station 4.

All is well that ends well.

Sailor Jack also wonders if maybe Station 4 allows conjugal visits.

Careful. A line might form, toothless old foreigner geezers.

At Narcisso Sailor Jack turns left and notices a beautiful sunrise to the East, accompanied by the aroma of Jeepney exhaust from Checkpoint, dogshit, and the smoke of someone already burning trash.

Welcome back SJ. And well done!

[RakSopheni]

Sailor Jack witnessed a ladyboy fight early this morning in front of Phillies.

Great story, thanks Sailor Jack.

[Breadman]

I'm shocked that member breadman did not know better than to exchange numbers with a girl in a bar while she is working, get seen by security, the owners, managers then don't be surprised if they get very upset, mostly leading to a beating, why, because you are taking bread out of their mouths during a period where most western bars are struggling to keep the electric on and the staff paid.

Best way to cut costs is to pay the barfine for the girl the 1st time, if one gets along with her then ask to swap contact details and meet het on her day off or before or after her work shift.

The girls free time is her free time to do as she pleases with, most bar owners know this and accept others are fucking their staff for free, like her pinoy husband, boyfriend, trike driver lover, what they won't stand for is punters trying to cut the bars share out during a girls working hours.

Well first thing its mainly the Korean bars where I'm given numbers because they have the most girls and with many girls that means many not getting barfined. As to the beating. Maybe a beating for the girl if they go that low, nobody in their right mind would touch me especially no tiny Korean guy. They as I are guests in this country so its unlikely a 'beating' will take place to either party involved, more likely they'll try shaming the girl or withholding pay. As to getting numbers I've done it many times in many many bars, so many girls and customers are on their phones in the clubs anymore its unlikely they notice. Little trick is to open the calculator app, one touch and you've got the keypad right there and the numbers are bigger. Girl keys in her number and you take a quick screenshot and anyone who might glance over see's you converting a barfine into your currency and not saving a contact. I've even engaged in conversation with a waitress who was trying to see what the girl was doing by asking what the exchange rate was and showing her the calculator.

Again I repeat 'a girls free time is her free time' does not apply to a bar that will house a girl and has mamasan checking on their location when they are not at work. And how would the bar know who the girls are talking too? I'm not a regular, I pop in once and don't come back for weeks. Only the girl knows who I am. And not only that they always have a friend working at the bar who needs money and comes over for a threesome. So now I save two barfines.

It's highly likely that she was liable for some type of fine when she got back if she walked out during work hours. Worst case would be that she owes the bar a barfine. Best case is that she split some of Breadman's money with mama to keep her quiet and smooth things over.

Do the bars still keep a log of when the girls leave the premises, either with a customer or to grab some cigarettes? I'm sure her absence would have been noticed.

I once took a girl out of the bar for two weeks for a trip to Bohol and Coron. We agreed on her salary but I said that dealing with the bar was her problem. She told the bar that she was going home but still had to pay a cut to mama to keep her quiet. I don't know exactly how much but got the feeling that it was a reasonable percentage of what I paid her..

She was off the clock after working 9 hours. After about an hour mamasan starts texting her 'where are you?' wanting to know why she isn't back in the room the bar has her living in. Imagine that. You wake up and are taken to the bar to dance for 9 hours then they want to take you back to the room to know exactly where you are in the evening. She told the mamasan she was going out to eat. Now I've run into this in Thailand where the girl is staying in a room above the bar and has to be back before they close the security doors on the bar. But she was never texted over and over by the mamasan 'where are you?

Honestly though phone numbers are hit and miss for a variety of reasons. They are easy to get with all of the cell phone usage going on in the bars here by the girls, you never see gogo girls in Thailand on their phones in the open.

[TjBrazil]

Its been that way for some time now. It started around 2014-15 (NS can correct if I am wrong). Girls on duty (and for many off-duty) are not allowed to be on their own. There are safe-guards in place now for the bar owner to stop or slow down sneak-outs. I considered it AC sacrilege when I first started becoming aware of it (two mamas that I was close with back then, started describing such measures to me at the time, which I considered a bit draconian).

The reason I considered it sacrilege was that I'd become well-accustomed to previous barfined gals coming over in their off-hours for about 1/3 - 1/2 of the barfine amount. These bars included Atlantis, Geckos, Brown Sugar, 1-Bar (later WOW bar, Santos St), Butterly Rock, and several Raymond St ST bars. After a few years I found that I didn't really need to barfine often, maybe just once a week for new girls. I could walk into Brown Sugar, see a girl that I had before on a previous visit, walk over and whisper into her ear: I have the same phone number. Is yours the same? If she nodded 'yes' I could walk out and txt her: Msg me later if you want to meet up tonight after shift. If she nodded 'no', I would tell her to find WESTY in her phone contacts and msg me if she wanted to come by after shift.

How are they safeguarding what a girl does on her off time. I'm confused.

[Sailor Jack]

Sailor Jack witnessed a ladyboy fight early this morning in front of Phillies.

So Sailor Jack is at Phillies about 5 am this morning eating a Phillies omelet, which comes with coffee, and minding his own business like always.

Sailor Jack hears a lot of shouting coming from around Envy and the unmistakable sound of angry shouting ladyboy voices. A melee spills over to the front of Phillies, right in front of innocent bystander Sailor Jack. At first it is hard to tell exactly what is going on. There are several ladyboys yelling, shoving, slapping, pulling hair, and tearing clothes.

Then Sailor Jack notices Spinner01, a tiny real girl Filipina, who is being held back by BuffGuy01. Apparently Spinner01 and BuffGuy01 got paired up recently at one of the nearby night clubs. It is all BuffGuy01 can do to hold Spinner01 back. Spinner01 is maybe 4'10' and 85 pounds (and totally fucking hot in a little black dress) and Spinner01 is fully enraged. Spinner01 is just fucking crazed.

Now into Sailor Jack's view comes LadyBoy01, who other ladyboys are trying to hold back. LadyBoy01 is also fully enraged and trying hard to go after Spinner01. LadyBoy01 is about 5'8" medium guy build, wearing a short skirt and thigh high black leather boots with 8 inch heels. No one would mistake him for anything but a ladyboy. Spinner01 and Ladyboy01 seem to be the primary combatants. Somehow in all this other ladyboys start to fight with other ladyboys, slapping, punching, pulling hair. A wig got pulled off and set on fire.

Spinner01 gets loose from BuffGuy01 and unwisely goes after LadyBoy01 who at this moment also got loose. Spinner01 unwisely charges LadyBoy01 and LadyBoy01 tries a front karate kick to Spinner01's head. Fortunately, LadyBoy01's front karate kick misses (those high heels could have killed Spinner01) and LadyBoy01 and Spinner01 clinch. LadyBoy01 hip tosses Spinner01 and Spinner01 goes down hard in the rain wetted nasty street. Some other ladyboys pull LadyBoy01 off Spinner01. Here Sailor Jack thought he might see some one pull a knife. Sailor Jack really thought he might be about to witness a murder because there are several other ladyboy fights going on as well.

BuffGuy01 steps back in and gets Spnner01 a bit further away. This whole fracas has lasted a good 10 minutes with Station 4 just 150 meters off and in clear sight.

At one point, LadyBoy01 had Spinner01 by the hair with one hand and Ladyboy01 was smacking the shit out of Spinner01 with the other hand. Here Sailor Jack must admit to being quite aroused by seeing hot Spinner01 getting slapped around. Apparently Sailor Jack was not the only one. Sailor Jack noticed in the crowd a young Filipino Wierdo with his hand in his pants jerking off. Wierdo looked at Sailor Jack and sported a toothless grin.

Also, at one point, LadyBoy02 angrily confronts LadyBoy01. LadyBoy02 is about 5'4" in a nice short skirt and heels and he indeed could easily be mistaken for a real girl. Sailor Jack does know exactly what the argument is about because all the shouting is in Tagalog, but SJ thinks it must have been insults about various stages of transition. Sailor Jack witnesses LadyBoy02 lift his short skirt to LadyBoy01 to reveal no underwear and - uh - some non-standard rigging. Sailor Jack feels some Mal der mer.

The tourist police arrive, and all are escorted to Station 4.

Yes, Sailor Jack got it all on video.

Sailor Jack starts to walk back to his cabin. Sailor Jack considers the morning thus far and how some people say Angeles City lacks entertainment. Then Sailor Jack pictures that hot little Spinner01 getting slapped around and SJ wonders if Spinner01 needs to be bailed out. Sailor Jack also wonders if maybe Station 4 allows conjugal visits.

Sailor Jack passes 7 Eleven and notices a 3-year-old shitting on the sidewalk in front of the store. At Narcisso Sailor Jack turns left and notices a beautiful sunrise to the East, accompanied by the aroma of Jeepney exhaust from Checkpoint, dogshit, and the smoke of someone already burning trash.

It is good to be back in Angeles Fucking City.

Photo; unrelated K2 photo will be covered in a future post.

[TjBrazil]

When I go to bar fine places, instead of typing the number through the cellular and getting busted by security, why not just buy one drink, tell the girl your hotel and room number and she can leave a message. Then you can call her back. Can't get busted that way.

[WestCoast1]

Do the bars still keep a log of when the girls leave the premises, either with a customer or to grab some cigarettes? I'm sure her absence would have been noticed.

Its been that way for some time now. It started around 2014-15 (NS can correct if I am wrong). Girls on duty (and for many off-duty) are not allowed to be on their own. There are safe-guards in place now for the bar owner to stop or slow down sneak-outs. I considered it AC sacrilege when I first started becoming aware of it (two mamas that I was close with back then, started describing such measures to me at the time, which I considered a bit draconian).

The reason I considered it sacrilege was that I'd become well-accustomed to previous barfined gals coming over in their off-hours for about 1/3 - 1/2 of the barfine amount. These bars included Atlantis, Geckos, Brown Sugar, 1-Bar (later WOW bar, Santos St), Butterly Rock, and several Raymond St ST bars. After a few years I found that I didn't really need to barfine often, maybe just once a week for new girls. I could walk into Brown Sugar, see a girl that I had before on a previous visit, walk over and whisper into her ear: I have the same phone number. Is yours the same? If she nodded 'yes' I could walk out and txt her: Msg me later if you want to meet up tonight after shift. If she nodded 'no', I would tell her to find WESTY in her phone contacts and msg me if she wanted to come by after shift.

Hotties who didn't barfine tonight would txt just as their shift ended: "No date tonight. I will go to you?" And for an amount that now seems ridiculously small. One morning I asked one girl this: Why do you keep coming to my place and spending the night, for just pxxx? "Well. I can go to my home no pesos. Or you will let me here its pxxx. No pesos. Or pxxx, sex, and foods. You see it?" Yes, I saw not only the simple logic of making *some* money as opposed to *no* money; but also she had nothing else to do and lived in a sh*t-hole with another girl that she didn't like. In addition, they would sometimes offer to send or bring another girl for 3-some.

Later, when the safe-guards started kicking in, this practice ended. The good-old-days of AC were ending. The K's are just a continuation of such.

[Goferring]

This can easily be countered with barfines in Angeles (as well as lady drink prices) are completely unreasonable, which drives people to want to cut the middlemen out. 3500-6000 is the going rate now for what could likely be a dud performance since the girl knows she can do anything as the guy has already paid up front. At least in the freelance (pay after) model, girls are still incentivized to actually do a good job and / or stick to their promises.

There was a time when bars actually offered a service that guys were happy to pay a markup for. Without starting another 'good ol' days' saga, bars previously offered a fun environment, full of pretty girls who were happy to offer a good time. Now it's common for me to walk into a bar, only see bored girls on their phone or sharks about to rip off who ever they can. Half the time I can't get any action because I'm not interested in buying trays of drinks for girls who will never leave the premises.

Rant off. 😜.

[NapaSlapper]

The pay all money before leaving the bar with the girl has always been the Angeles way and in many years gone past worked well because the girls and the bars back then had a totally different attitude and way of working, they were all geared to customer satisfaction 1st.

Unfortunately in todays Angeles city many girls do not leave with customers to earn their money, multiple girls are very short time only, many girls will promise a great time back at the room in order to get the barfine money only to turn into a princess that won't blow or allow much time before she starts complaining that a punter is taking too long to cum and to hurry because she is sore.

In the new Angeles the bars, the girls are all designed to line their pockets as quick as possible and not to give customer satisfaction, the bars encourage the girls to do short time only and the girls love this too, why settle for 1 long time punter when a bar can sell a girl multiple times per night, of course the girl also receives multiple payments which obviously mean much bigger profits and happy girls.

Yes yes, I hear the couple of die hard voices among the board members of I have no problem getting the pretty 8.5 girls of Angeles to barfine and all stay long time, give countless pops, suck cock for hours and give a porn star performance and many times at reduced rates because they are such a stud, as normal I file most of this in the garbage and to fantasy, in the real world the bars and bar girls of Angeles are in business for their profits and don't care for the punters enjoyment, alas it is what it is, either accept it or move on to a destination where the bar girls share is paid after the deed thus guarantee a good time and receiving exactly what was promised back at the room.

[RainMania]

Guys want bars to be full of young attractive girls so that there is a good selection to choose from. Yet at the same time guys are meeting up with girls without paying the bar fine which hurts the bar's bottom line. Bars that are making less money will not be able to attract a lot of young attractive women. That's why bars try their best to prevent this from happening. Now it may seem wrong that bars have rules to try to stop this from happening But it is to prevent guys from meeting girls at the bar without paying the bar fine.

Now I know some guy say, well most guys are going to pay the bar fine and everything will be fine. But what does everybody started doing this? Will everything still be fine? What it does do is cause the increase in bar fines because if bars are getting less bar fines, they need the amount of the bar fine to compensate for this.

It is primarily the long-term guys who are doing this at the expense of the short-term visitors.

This can easily be countered with barfines in Angeles (as well as lady drink prices) are completely unreasonable, which drives people to want to cut the middlemen out. 3500-6000 is the going rate now for what could likely be a dud performance since the girl knows she can do anything as the guy has already paid up front. At least in the freelance (pay after) model, girls are still incentivized to actually do a good job and / or stick to their promises.

[Goferring]

I'm shocked that member breadman did not know better than to exchange numbers with a girl in a bar while she is working, get seen by security, the owners, managers then don't be surprised if they get very upset, mostly leading to a beating, why, because you are taking bread out of their mouths during a period where most western bars are struggling to keep the electric on and the staff paid.

Best way to cut costs is to pay the barfine for the girl the 1st time, if one gets along with her then ask to swap contact details and meet het on her day off or before or after her work shift.

It's highly likely that she was liable for some type of fine when she got back if she walked out during work hours. Worst case would be that she owes the bar a barfine. Best case is that she split some of Breadman's money with mama to keep her quiet and smooth things over.

Do the bars still keep a log of when the girls leave the premises, either with a customer or to grab some cigarettes? I'm sure her absence would have been noticed.

I once took a girl out of the bar for two weeks for a trip to Bohol and Coron. We agreed on her salary but I said that dealing with the bar was her problem. She told the bar that she was going home but still had to pay a cut to mama to keep her quiet. I don't know exactly how much but got the feeling that it was a reasonable percentage of what I paid her.

Cheers. G.

[NapaSlapper]

I'm shocked that member breadman did not know better than to exchange numbers with a girl in a bar while she is working, get seen by security, the owners, managers then don't be surprised if they get very upset, mostly leading to a beating, why, because you are taking bread out of their mouths during a period where most western bars are struggling to keep the electric on and the staff paid.

Best way to cut costs is to pay the barfine for the girl the 1st time, if one gets along with her then ask to swap contact details and meet het on her day off or before or after her work shift.

The girls free time is her free time to do as she pleases with, most bar owners know this and accept others are fucking their staff for free, like her pinoy husband, boyfriend, trike driver lover, what they won't stand for is punters trying to cut the bars share out during a girls working hours.

[Goferring]

Has anyone ever stayed at Aqua Beach Club. It's 110 a night. Looks amazing. Does the club have all hookers or just guests of the hotel. What's the lay of the land. Is it worth the money.

Aqua Beach club is a club atop Angeles Beach Club Hotel. It's not a hotel in itself. The hotel is more commonly referred to simply as ABC.

The ABC hotel is totally over the top and caters almost exclusively to mongers. Various rooms have stripper poles, 5 person jacuzzis, massive entertainment areas etc. The list goes on. The hotel is very familiar with dealing with guys' escapades. They won't bat an eye at entering with 20 girls, needing 5 fresh towels etc.

The club is about as upmarket as one gets in AC. There will be a few freelancers about. They are instructed not to approach guys but wait to be approached. There may also be some Philippine groups up from Manila for the weekend.

Is it worth it?? It's good for a laugh if you don't mind throwing money around. $100 would only get you one of the basic rooms with the theme rooms being multiples of that. The rooms are nice enough that girls will often want to come up just to see them and may be reluctant to leave to return to their shitty shared room.

Check their web site for options and prices.

[WestCoast1]

Of course when you live in a place the girls will treat you differently than the 4 day tourist. Still, I can't imagine living in AC. Besides girls there is not a single good thing to say about the place. After 3 days my balls are drained and I can't wait to leave.

Sure, but 3 days later when you're in Iloilo and getting nothing, you'll start having fond memories of AC, LOL.

Ya that 3-days-drained-balls thing might be Phils best advertisement yet (that, and Pia Wurtzbach).

Also, there are other places in the Philippines that are much nice to live and also have a lot of girls, although not bar girls. If I had to live in the PI, ID probably start with Cebu. I need a major city for decent food options at least, some access to diving plus of course girls. But to each their own and glad you are having a good time. Maybe we grab a beer on my next go around.

Ya. Manila is an oddity because of its big-city nature. AC is a strange calliope of sights, sounds, drunkeness, sex and fantasy, that it doesn't readily encapsulate what is 'Philippines-normal' in any sense of the words. Pretty much the same way that Tijuana does not in any way reflect the way the rest of Mexico is. Getting away from those two places, it gets easier to live a normal (ie, laid-back) life and have poon regularly where you don't worry about it very much. It just finds a way to happen here.

[TjBrazil]

Has anyone ever stayed at Aqua Beach Club. It's 110 a night. Looks amazing. Does the club have all hookers or just guests of the hotel. What's the lay of the land. Is it worth the money.