Makati

[RickTheDiver]

I think is the bar fine plus what the girl charges. Which ends up being like 150 - 200 us. A lot, when you in the Island of free pussy. Or go to LA Cafe.

You are right there. My experience is the bars in P. Burgos don't include the girls 'tip' which could be 5 k to 7 k depending on quality of girl. You pay the BF (4 k?) pus girls tip. FLs on PinaLove, P. Bugos street and LA Cafe etc. Around 4 k. You will need to negotiate ST or LT and there is more risk with this option as the bars carry out some checks on the girls. Outside Manila (E. G. LA, Sabang, Cebu) the BF usually includes the girls tip but you need to check if its ST or LT and what's included. If you are there longer you can find a GF on one of the dating sites or regular bars.

[Dcfan77]

I think is the bar fine plus what the girl charges. Which ends up being like 150 - 200 us. A lot, when you in the Island of free pussy. Or go to LA Cafe.

Should you assume all barfine quotes include the price of girl or should you always ask the club if I have to negotiate the girls price on top of bar fine.

[TjBrazil]

So Neon Lights is a sort of club / gogo hybrid. They have hot chicks that linger outside as a bait, these are known as "receptionists". Their job is just to get you to go inside with them. Actually they are fun to chat up and you can usually grab their ass or whatever they don't mind. Then there are tons of girls inside, dancers, and just like a gogo bar you can buy them a shot of vodka for like 390 or w / e and they will sit with you for a while.

So my first experience with Neon Lights I went in with a receptionist girl. It was weekend so it was packed. I did not buy her a drink, even though she was grinding on me for a bit and we were dancing because her breath smelled pretty awful so I wanted to get rid of her. Anyway I danced for a bit, the couches you need to commit to spending like 2500 or something to get to sit, but there are stools at the bar and then a few other stools you can sit on for free near the pool table. So I just danced for a while then sat by the pool tables. Some hot dancer girls were playing pool so I asked if I could play the winner. They agreed but had to go up for their dance set in between. The dance set was great actually, there were five of them and they did a little choreographed number which involved some very appealing pelvic thrust moves. Anyway, after they finished we played pool. I bought an hour for 500 and we played three games, 2 x2. That was kind of fun, albeit a pretty tame evening. When the third game finished I bailed even though I probably still had like 20 minutes or w / e in my hour.

My second experience at Neon Lights I was dancing and a girl started dancing with me. Then I bought her a drink and we sat on the free stools by the pool area. This was a more erotic experience, with plenty of grinding and heavy petting. She quoted me just a few drinks + 1 k as her tip for some in sight action, but I presume the room rental would be like 5 k+ or something. I wasn't really in the market. I did give her some loose change tips on top of the drink...

Should you assume all barfine quotes include the price of girl or should you always ask the club if I have to negotiate the girls price on top of bar fine.

[Meistro1]

So Neon Lights is a sort of club / gogo hybrid. They have hot chicks that linger outside as a bait, these are known as "receptionists". Their job is just to get you to go inside with them. Actually they are fun to chat up and you can usually grab their ass or whatever they don't mind. Then there are tons of girls inside, dancers, and just like a gogo bar you can buy them a shot of vodka for like 390 or w / e and they will sit with you for a while.

So my first experience with Neon Lights I went in with a receptionist girl. It was weekend so it was packed. I did not buy her a drink, even though she was grinding on me for a bit and we were dancing because her breath smelled pretty awful so I wanted to get rid of her. Anyway I danced for a bit, the couches you need to commit to spending like 2500 or something to get to sit, but there are stools at the bar and then a few other stools you can sit on for free near the pool table. So I just danced for a while then sat by the pool tables. Some hot dancer girls were playing pool so I asked if I could play the winner. They agreed but had to go up for their dance set in between. The dance set was great actually, there were five of them and they did a little choreographed number which involved some very appealing pelvic thrust moves. Anyway, after they finished we played pool. I bought an hour for 500 and we played three games, 2 x2. That was kind of fun, albeit a pretty tame evening. When the third game finished I bailed even though I probably still had like 20 minutes or w / e in my hour.

My second experience at Neon Lights I was dancing and a girl started dancing with me. Then I bought her a drink and we sat on the free stools by the pool area. This was a more erotic experience, with plenty of grinding and heavy petting. She quoted me just a few drinks + 1 k as her tip for some in sight action, but I presume the room rental would be like 5 k+ or something. I wasn't really in the market. I did give her some loose change tips on top of the drink.

Then my third experience I was walking past and got caught by the bait girls again. The receptionist I went up with was really stunningly beautiful, although she seemed a bit vapid. We didn't talk that much. She was a bit stand offish as well, and ofc I'm a gentleman so I'm not one to force myself on a woman, so mostly I just sat there staring at her beautiful body. Really she was very model esque, just perfectly preportioned, although I assume she would be a starfish in bed. This actually wasn't that bad as she sort of got into it and was dancing and shaking her body for me, occassionally giving little spins to show off her ass. So anyway I decided to dance, since one of the reasons I got there is just to exercise a bit. So I'm dancing away with the stool in between her and me, and she is dancing. Then these five idiots in customes and blaring lights come over and start dancing around us which was just surreal. Eventually they leave and some girls come over and talk to us, then towards the end of the session my girl does finally press her body up against mine and stay there for a while.

So yah, it is basically standard go go pricing with regards to drinks and lady drinks. Pool is like 105 or something for 1 game or 500 for the hour. And the couch charges (consumable) are negotiable during off peak times. 2800 or w / e it is isn't really that much anyway if you are going with a group and planning on spending some money.

Anyway, having recently surveyed basically all of the GoGos, I would say the best bang for your buck is Maisons. The girls there generally let you go further than anywhere else for a ladies drink. I've had a ton of fine times in there. One of the girls even jerked me off to completion. But usually you can rub their pussies, I've gotten my finger inside a number of the girls. And they have some really sexy girls. The waitresses have tried to scam me every single time I've been in there tho, so you should be careful. I find it amusing because I catch them and call them on it every single time. I'll usually go in here and buy a drink for a few different girls. Kind of a waste of money I guess, but from my perspective $8 to have some barely legal teenager giving me a prolonged lap dance is money well spent. The best value is if you just buy them a single drink I think, especially some of the girls will delay drinking the drink and just focus on the interaction. It is hit or miss, a few of the girls are a bit standoffish. Probably get better value later in the night when they are more drunk as well. Also sometimes a whale will show up and be hogging all the hot chicks.

Lips was decent. A ton of selection. Just so many girls. Very point and click. They don't really approach you though, well when I first went in a group of four with two girls and two like aunties came and sat with me and I sent them on their way. But then I had this very nice girl who was dancing on stage, so I told the mamasan when she asked me if there was any girl I liked to send her over. She was very soft, wearing jean shorts. But the booths aren't really private enough so she was a bit shy, but very receptive to being fingered from behind. I kind of regret not bar fining her. Bar fine was 3500 mamasan quoted, not sure if non negotiable. She told me it was only her second time being in a booth. Probably very low mileage.

V8 was a lot of fun, although the girls there are a bit more conservative. But it is a fun, high energy atmosphere. That would be my choice for like a business outing with some clients or w / e. High ratio of girls to clients and a lot of attractive girls there.

[WestCoast1]

Yes, City Garden Grand quoted me no charge for the first overnight guest, and a more modest charge for any additional. I don't usually take more than one girl at a time, so the City Garden Grand policy would work for me. Still waiting to hear back from Coro Hotel. I think it is pretty bizarre that hotels located one block from the red light strip would have such an unfriendly policy.

Those policies are in place and are usually just for show, nothing more. Its would be odd for anyone at the front desk to stop you because you had two girls, and ask for additional money. Please report back if you run into this. It would be quite out of the ordinary and reported here. It possible that they all have similar policies, and never enforce them. At some point, regardless of policy, you have to choose one, get on a jet, and get laid a bunch.

Seems like an obvious bad business move. I am in the process of canceling and getting a refund from I'm Hotel. I hope they get the message: if you want my money, you need to play the game.

You might not be used to pinoy thinking. Interest in future business from an organization that deals with the public is not a pinoy trait. You are just one guy. If you don't reserve there (or alternately if you get poor service and fail to come back), its not a loss for them. Other gents weigh in on this.

Are you a rich sheik who brings in 40 family and rents the entire Penthouse floor twice a year (I've seen that)? If so, you have clout.

[Houston Player]

Yes, City Garden Grand quoted me no charge for the first overnight guest, and a more modest charge for any additional. I don't usually take more than one girl at a time, so the City Garden Grand policy would work for me. Still waiting to hear back from Coro Hotel. I think it is pretty bizarre that hotels located one block from the red light strip would have such an unfriendly policy. Seems like an obvious bad business move. I am in the process of canceling and getting a refund from I'm Hotel. I hope they get the message: if you want my money, you need to play the game.

I wouldn't cancel the reservation at the I'm Hotel. I'd take the chance that the I'm Hotel is not enforcing that policy. I've stayed at the I'm 3 times so far this year and stayed at the City Garden Grand once. I decided to try the City Garden Grand because several guys here like it and it works for them. I hated it. Maybe I was just unlucky or bad timing, but the hotel was very crowded, and the elevators were slow as shit. One elevator kept breaking down or something. On more than one occasion I waited 10 minutes for the elevator and when it arrived it was full, yep had to wait another 10 minutes.

I'm gets my vote 2 to 1 over City Garden Grand but the elevators were the main issue I had. I brought 2 girls to my room one night and they were hungry. I let one of the girls call to place our order and they told her that room service was over. When I got on the phone and reminded them that there were still 30 minutes before the service was supposed to stop, they accepted our order.

No other issues or concerns, the rooms were fine but be sure you get a room with a walk-in shower if that is your preference as it is mine because the first room, they tried to give me only had a tub with a rain fall shower.

[ShinyCrazy]

Pre-covid, over the years, I've received several of these kinds of disclaimers when I asked such a question. Alternately it would read as such: "Only 1 guest per room", meaning you couldn't bring in multiple girls at the same time. None of these disclaimers were ever enforced when I was in the hotel.

However once covid hit, all hotels / residences went to policies such as this and stuck to it. Unfortunately its hard to tell who is enforcing their old policy (most have stopped enforcing). In your case, the I'm hotel has been having trouble with late-night parties. If the uncertainty of this bothers you, find a different place. City Garden Grand, just across the street, is a good alternative.

Yes, City Garden Grand quoted me no charge for the first overnight guest, and a more modest charge for any additional. I don't usually take more than one girl at a time, so the City Garden Grand policy would work for me. Still waiting to hear back from Coro Hotel. I think it is pretty bizarre that hotels located one block from the red light strip would have such an unfriendly policy. Seems like an obvious bad business move. I am in the process of canceling and getting a refund from I'm Hotel. I hope they get the message: if you want my money, you need to play the game.

[WestCoast1]

Here is their response to a question about overnight guests:

"Please be informed that our visiting hours are until 10:00 PM only. (Penalty Charge of Php 2,000 per person shall apply beyond 10:00 PM). Party rooms are STRICTLY prohibited. (Penalty charge of Php 10,000 shall apply). ".

Pre-covid, over the years, I've received several of these kinds of disclaimers when I asked such a question. Alternately it would read as such: "Only 1 guest per room", meaning you couldn't bring in multiple girls at the same time. None of these disclaimers were ever enforced when I was in the hotel.

However once covid hit, all hotels / residences went to policies such as this and stuck to it. Unfortunately its hard to tell who is enforcing their old policy (most have stopped enforcing). In your case, the I'm hotel has been having trouble with late-night parties. If the uncertainty of this bothers you, find a different place. City Garden Grand, just across the street, is a good alternative.

[ShinyCrazy]

Here is their response to a question about overnight guests:

"Please be informed that our visiting hours are until 10:00 PM only. (Penalty Charge of Php 2,000 per person shall apply beyond 10:00 PM). Party rooms are STRICTLY prohibited. (Penalty charge of Php 10,000 shall apply). ".

[Detwing1]

Filipinas are masters at this. My last visit to the Philippines was 16 years ago. I will never forget her tears at the airport, it really shook me up. For me getting over that could not be rushed but it eventually happens with time.

Same thing happened to me on my first trip there. Young and naive, but thankfully I had a really cool boss at the time, who "showed me the light". All in all, I only wasted about 200 dollars on a single WU transfer. Cheap lesson.

[Muttley81]

Pretty sure I saw a post recently asking if there was any on stage nudity in Burgos bars, unfortunately, can't find it to quote reply now.

Went into Maison on Saturday, can confirm there was nudity on stage and a bit of a lesbian show. Nothing on scale of what is done in Crazy House, Bangkok, but still a nice surprise. Girl that was with me told me to look up and watch, was oblivious to it happening at first.

[Idiot182]

I thought it would be helpful to let you all know what is happening with the ex-Rogues bar on P Burgos, now re-named O'Reilly's. The original Rogues pre-pandemic was amazing and usually crowded with tons of lookers. First time I walked in there I actually walked straight back out because it looked too intense with girls all over you and packed in there like sardines haha (2019 right before the pandemic hit). Now it is a very quiet space and there doesn't seem to be much activity. Caveat that I have only visited there earlier in the evening so later on maybe there is more going on. The bar sucks, no decent drinks as I think a recent forum member remarked, but if you only care about having cold San Mig lights you're fine.

I pulled a very buxom MILF from there recently, I would rate 7/10, barfine 4 k, tip 3 k. She was very enthusiastic about wanting to keep things going outside of office hours. We did and each time the going rate was 3 k plus whatever food or beers she wanted to have. She was happy to meet at the Sogo next door on days she was off and a very enthusiastic participant in the proceedings. Probably an important reminder for all of us. If you shoot for the 10's the attitude might now always be what you hoped for. As an FYI, she was pretty adamant about condom use. Which I personally took as a good sign. But finished me off bareback CIM. Overall no complaints. I am sure it has been mentioned on this forum before, but can't recommend the Okamoto 0. 01's enough, you can pick them up easily if you ever transit through Narita or even order them on Lazada in the Philippines. As close as you will get to barebacking without the risk. Not cheap though.

[Turgid]

.......My sincere question to you is simply this; how do I get over her quickly? I know I need to......

Filipinas are masters at this. My last visit to the Philippines was 16 years ago. I will never forget her tears at the airport, it really shook me up. For me getting over that could not be rushed but it eventually happens with time.

[FrankWake]

Hello guys. I'm reporting from a few months ago, day 1 was in the Manila page. Day 2 I ended up in Makati, thought to share the tale:

September, 2022, Sunday.

So in the evening I meet up with a local guy I hadn't seen in 10 years. He told me he knew some walkers that would want to spend time with me. I kept asking for fotos, details, etc but he said he was worried to show me and asked if we could just talk in person. After we meet up, he pulls out his phone and shows me this smoking hot late 20's single mom. I prefer spinners, but this was a girl that was a head turner for locals. I ask him how much and he reckons 1-1. 5 k. This is a theme that continues for the rest of the report. He texts her but she doesn't reply. Apparently he hadn't set up anything in advance. She did eventually reply and say she couldn't go out because she had to work the next day. -. -.

Next, he wants to take me to this long road of street walkers. I tell him I'm not interested in a walker but he swears up and down that they're smoking hot. Claims he drives uber and grab so he always sees young hotties on the road. We hop in a cab and drive up like twice. Nothing of interest for me. I tell the driver to take us to the red light district. He stops in front of Lips and we enter.

We sit down and this moron tells me that he'll tell the staff we are siblings so they don't' try to raise the prices on me. I look at him confused. I'm latino and have been mistaken for Phil Am a lot but there's no way in hell we can pass as cousins, let alone siblings. He says he'll talk to mama san for me. Comes back and tells me the girls are available for 3 k. Now I know that something is up. I haven't been in the Philippines in a few years but I'm doubting these girls are available for that price. Mama san comes over and explains to me the deal. Girl drinks are 400 and if I buy 10 then she's free for the night. She says that if I buy 2 and I just want to top up the bar fine that's alright as well. It's Sunday and it's actually pretty empty other than the girls and rather than wander around aimlessly with my stupid "friend" I decide to stay. They do the line up and I thought I found my dream girl. Until I saw the one beside her that looked like Vina Sky. So I choose her and she's more than happy to sit with me. The girls surrounded our table, trying to get my "brother" to choose them. He tells them he's married and not able to. I buy him, me and Vina Sky drinks until it's about midnight. Bill comes and it's about 6 k I think. Vina Sky wanted 6 k for her time. So 10 k in total. Where my "friend" got the 3 k number from I have no idea. I think that was his guess?

Well my MO is I like to find a girl, bring her to a bar or disco so it feels more like a date. Then we go do the deed and its a better experience then hitting the sack right away. For me anyways. So I ask her if she knows a place and she suggests Royal. The guy I'm with was supposed to go home at 9 pm because he was starting his new job the next day but says he'll follow us to Royal just to make sure we are settled in.

We get there and it's pretty lively for a Sunday. The only thing I want to mention was there was this drink girl selling these syringes of some type of shot. It was like 150 each or something? Just the novelty of drinking out of syringes is what got Vina Sky's attention. I paid for her and gave the drink girl a 1 k bill. She says she'll bring me change. About 40 minutes later I realize I hadn't got my change. I tell the bouncer and he gets her. She looks at me confused and tells me that she gave the change to my "brother". I look to him and he's confused, swears he didn't get anything. The whole thing was really weird, she was rubbing her boobs against me as she was telling me she already gave it to him and as I found out that night, he was a bloody snake so I don't know who was lying to me. I told the manager on the way out and vowed to never go back.

Well 4 am and my buddy is beyond drunk. He's asking me for 1 k to buy his wife food when he gets home so she doesn't kill him. I told him to go to hell. He later on whined that she beat him so badly he needed stitches and tried to get more money out of me. Needless to say we aren't friends anymore.

But for the story you've waited for? Well I learned a more important lesson that night. Taking an 80 lb girl all night and feeding her drinks until 4 am means one can't be surprised when she's dead in bed. She was hot enough that I didn't mind doing all the work but she was tired as hell. Condomed up, about 2 minutes on top and she was begging to switch to missionary. I normally like to stretch this out with foreplay and stuff but she was really whining about how tired she was. I'm a night owl and a drunk so drinking all night wasn't a big deal for me, but I really should have headed to the hotel much earlier. Well I got what I wanted but 10 k (500 for cab) all in all? 2 k at the cat house and 2. 5 k at the Royal. I did pull a higher quality girl than I would have from LA Cafe but as many of you know, the hotter ones tend to be "lazier" and don't' always give your money worth.

One last note is that I invited her to Thailand with me, before we did the deed (rookie mistake gents, don't ever take an untested girl with you on a trip!) And she was more than excited to go. I made some comment about buying her clothes there and she said I didn't need to do that. I smiled and thought that was cool. She instead asked if I could give her bar fine and usual fee each day. 10 k a day for the "luxury" of taking her on an international vacation? Haha, never called her again.

Next report will be back in the Manila page. Thanks for reading!

[Locamotive]

A softy, hopeless romantic, drunk, went to Burgos. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? Hopeless romantic and prosti, seems an oxymoron.

Actually a good descriptive early report.

Yes. Bubbly girls who you don't need a phone to google-translate with. A man could fall for a doe-eyed tiny pina (who lets him deep-seed her). Well, that's what I heard.

Ill add my 2 cents worth. Its not your fault, its your conditioning and culture. I'm assuming this gentleman came from the West, US I'm guessing. For most of your life especially here all you've known is bitchy self centered overweight feminist pissy women. Like me when I first went there I thought I had died and gone to heaven. A place did exist where I was not invisible and women half my age treated me as desirable. I had a similar post on this before, it does overwhelm you. Just try and remember what it is. Are allot of them sweet and gorgeous, yep they sure are which they remind me almost everyday with photos and texts. Showing those photo's to my friends here I do for the astonished looks I get. OMG! You are sleeping with them, Jesus I got to save my pennies. Its another world, correction from the USA its another planet. Just enjoy them, be a gentleman and they will give you many years of unbelievable companionship as they have done for me. Just remember when you leave they will be just as sweet to the next guy, its their job. When you can return you again will be their long lost love. Work on retirement there, that's my plan or sooner if your finance's allow. I've Met allot of guys there plus you can see them on Podcast, most of them are very very happy to have escaped the West.