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  1. #17113

    Sao Paulo Hotels

    Some intel about the Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt Chain hotels in SP.

    As others have mentioned, Jardins is a preferred area if you like walking or a quicker Uber ride to destinations such as restaurants, bars, Ave. Paulista, malls, and even some incalls from online girls advertising on the popular sites like Private55, SPlove, and Clubmodel. I really don't venture out to clubs like Scandallo anymore, or at least I haven't in my last few trips, but you can access it with an Uber ride, just like Casarao and many others. Clinicas are an easy Uber ride from Jardins too.

    In Jardins, for the Hilton chain, there's a new hotel called Qoya, it's off Alameda Santos and near Ave. Paulista. My observation is that the lobby is accessible after taking an elevator up one floor. It's new and modern, and good price. The elevator to the rooms does require a card, but you can easily wait for your "friend" at the lobby, no need to check her in, if you don't want to.

    In the same area, there is the famous Renaissance Hotel also off Alameda Santos. I was there a few weeks back, the lobby area was being remodeled, a temporary bar was setup and the sushi bar area appeared gone. According to the hotel staff, it was reopening soon, I'm not sure if the renovations are completed. The hotel has been quite busy every time I've been there the last few stays. My observation is that if you get a Suite, the room is great, and the location is preferred. However, if you get a regular room, the price for what you get is not worth it, unless you only value the location. This is comparing it to the other options in the Morumbi / Brooklyn area. Regular rooms are too small, and the bathrooms are starting to show their age. Even the shower in the Suites is small, you cannot shower with someone else in the tiny space.

    In the Morumbi / Brooklyn area, there are more choices. This area doesn't have the same ease to walk to places as Jardin does. However, it has more hotels in the financial district, and the Hilton and Sheraton hotels are connected by an underground mall where you can find restaurants (Including a good one called Barbacoa, if you like steak), there is a very safe Bradesco bank with ATMs, a convenience store open until late, and a Drogaria Sao Paulo as well. Plus, a food court with other cheap food options.

    As far as the Hilton in Morumbi, the lobby is in front of you as you enter, and the elevators are behind the lobby. I have never been stopped when walking in with company and have had visitors come up to my room without any charge, they just called my room to let them go up the elevator, since it requires card. Asking your "friends" to wear something discreet helps too. This hotel has spacious, updated and comfortable rooms with nice views of the Ponte Estaiada Octavio bridge, nice big showers that can fit two people, and the Suites are even better. The breakfast buffet is great too. The bar is up a couple of floors, with live music on some nights and working girls can be found there. The compromise is that you have a longer Uber ride to Scandallo, if you are planning on going. Clinicas, and other clubs like Cafe Photo are not that much farther than Jardins, if any. I've gotten used to using Uber everywhere, just use Uber Black to avoid cancellations and get quick pickups.

    For the Sheraton in the same area, the lobby is to your right when you walk in and if you continue walking past it, you reach the elevators. They require a card to go up as well, but no one will stop you here either. This hotel has a bar in front of the lobby, and they have live music on some nights. The lobby area attracts many guests for drinks, and as you might guess, this also attracts working girls. LOL. I was there recently, and two of them were seated at a large couch, also another pair sitting at the bar, and another two behind a couple of pillars. They were quite attractive. I saw a guy take one back to his room, she was a very tall blonde with curves everywhere, I actually felt jealous LOL. Unfortunately, the rooms in this hotel are outdated, and the Suites need updating too. I would only stay here if you had no other choice, or you are getting a great deal. Stay at the Hilton and walk to the bar here to pick up a girl instead, if you desire LOL.

    Another hotel in this area is the Grand Hyatt, although it is not connected by the underground mall. The hotel was very nice when I was there earlier this year, the lobby is up front as you enter, and the elevators are to your right a few steps after you walk in. They require a card to go up, but again no issue taking friends up. The rooms are just as nice as the Hilton, with great showers and great storage to put your stuff away. Great views of the bridge as well. There is a small bar area and restaurant, and I've seen a couple of girls hang out there on some nights as well.

    If your preferred plan of attack is Online girls, Clinicas, Seeking or Meupatrocinio for meeting girls for dates and then back to the hotel, either area works fine. The ride to Scandallo takes an additional 15 to 20 min from Morumbi compared to Jardins, this depends on the time of the day, as traffic is always busy in SP.

  2. #17112

    134

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Building 134 is Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia. .
    I may have to try out 134 after the several good reports there. What is the standard service for 50 r per 30 minutes. Any GFE with BBBJ and DFK? I don't think I can deal with CBJ, maybe a upcharge?. Also is there a shower to clean up afterwards? 3 quick sessions here is the same as 1 hh session in most of the clinicas. Thanks.

  3. #17111

    Four hands and lily.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tochka  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion for first-time travelers: first review the list of clinicas on gp-guia, the price list is posted there, and the clinicas wassap numbers are available to see names, faces, and daily lineup, then do the visit for presentation. Much easier to keep track of 15-20 sexy garotas giving you a welcome brasil kiss when you have their names and photos. On your next clinica visit schedule an early booking of your favorite garotas in advance to not miss out.

    I completed visits to Clinica Prime, Abbobora, Tangar, Enjoy, Miruna, and 57 Friends. It's a blast to walk around Moema to see the presentation. Other times it's very disappointing if nothing clicks in an entire lineup of ten garotas. The photos in the lineup can differ from the in-person experience. At Tangar I liked the online photos of Lily Cooper, but during the presentation, I didn't know it was the same Garota. She looked plain, with shorter hair, and different. She has great reviews but not my type. My type is a young Alicia Keys, a sultry Meghan Markle, or a curvy, younger Fiorella Gelli Mattheis all with the Brazilian illusion of passion (IoP).

    Prime, Tangar, and Miruna list new chicas added to the team lineup. Very recently at Miruna started 19-year-old blond natural curves, Lua, all natural everywhere, she seemed new to Miruna, and they had to show her where the rooms were upstairs. During the presentation, I felt like a kid with the cracker jack prize when I spotted her. Chose her right away Lua is a young, hot curvy 19-year-old blonde. Damn, luv Brasil. Got her wassap to arrange directly to hotel session for the next day for less.

    In my opinion, scheduling duplos in advance, four hands threesome for one or two hours is a good bargain. Quite a few times at Prime and Miruna I got the special pricing deals for threesomes, four hands.

    I do 90-minute or two-hour sessions because never know if the same garotas will show up tomorrow or next week.

    Yes, early afternoon sessions prefer clinicas. Tangar has a very deep lineup. The wassap list of fotos and names is at least 20 garotas. I reserve two chicas in advance with the rooms on the first floor. I'the rather wait for those rooms than the long walk upstairs or down in the basement near the kitchen. Tangara has a bar in the basement. A good place to sit, and drink whiskey while waiting for room to be available. After a while, I order drinks delivered to the room. On Sunday afternoons they have a bbq cookout, food, and drinks.

    It's crowded in Tangara, which reminds me of Casaro. Always seems packed with local guys waiting around.

    I figured it's best to schedule two Tangar garotas in advance, reserve gets the rooms on the first floor rooms 1-4 are most convenient. Tangar desk staff are very responsive on wassap.

    One time I had such a great drunken time, we went at it for hours. Just plain, exhausted wiped out, so I left Tangar completely forgetting to pay at the desk. You can leave using the buzzer on the door. I buzzed myself out, jump into the waiting Uber, head to the hotel to recover and get some stage 3 REM sleep. An hour or two later they wassap letting me know I forgot to pay. Oh crap their right, haha I was too exhausted and drunk to pay at the desk. Three back-to-back two-hour no holes barred brasilian threesomes with good music and whiskey wore me out. I text them back saying I will stop by later in the evening on the way to Scandalo to settle up. All was cool, no hassle or issues at all.

    My favorite porno garota at Tangar is Ariella. I always let her choose the other pretty, sexy garotas for our threesome. Damn. Good. Time.

    With Ariella and Larinha threesomes. I pull up Ariellaa porn videos on pornhub, she smiles while the three of us are doing everything in the videos. Damn exhausted, nothing was left out.

    Abbobora has deep an "equipe" team of beautiful garotas. The front desk customer service gal sucks. She gets irritated if you don't remember all the names, she doesn't give another presentation to help you out. Don't think the lineup is on wassap either. She's a pain in the rear about the 15 garotas you just met. Abbobora easily can have 15 -20 garotas during the presentation, gpguia is a great guide to figure out which of them are good performers. So I reviewed a bunch of names first and sessioned with highly reviewed Larissa. Tanned, cute perky energetic.

    She was there only once a week, on weekends. We went to Hotel Shiga next door. Pay by credito, their machine is wonky. The suites are small rooms with AC showers and never enough towels.

    At Prime Blonde Karen is the old-time favorite. She works well with threesomes porno style too. Also went with Camilia in Prime, and she chooses Nadia as a partner for the threesome. Damn, they are a combo, erotic and intense, I see why Prime features them as a duplo couple. Outstanding service, at special pricing, was the perfect session.
    The four hands deal at the moema clinicas including prime, miruna and enjoy is one of best 2 girls pricing anywhere. When I first heard of it, I couldn't believe it and thought there must be some catch. But it's real. I also found out it's much better to know one of girls really well and she can take the lead.

    What's the Tangara pricing for 2 girls? I haven't try it there because trying to catch one girl I like was hard enough at that zoo. Probably need to what you suggest and just book ahead of time on WhatsApp.

    Hahaha. I knew lily cooper before she was at tangara. She used to advertise on PA, and recently on mclass. She looks pretty nice when she puts the effort with elegant lingerie and cocktail dresses and make up. Plus I have a big thing for natural redheads with big natural breasts. She is well educated and this supports her schooling. I was surprised when she switch over to the clinicas, but makes a lot more now on heavy volume than her usual one or two client per night before.

  4. #17110
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Building 134 is Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia.

    Building 69 is Rua dos Andradas 69.

    Building 11 is Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11.

    The first 2 are on the map. The last one is not.

    The american bar I mentioned is Av. So Joo, 345. On the map its called Prive American Bar.
    Thanks, I appreciate it.

  5. #17109
    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin3541  [View Original Post]
    So do you have recommendations for a nice hotel in Jardins? Does anyone have any constructive help or just to tell me I did it wrong? What about agencies? I don't want to wander the streets so I'the prefer to make arrangements ahead of time as well as visit a few clubs.
    I am usually in SP for 4 days so I kinda understand what you want. This is what I would do:

    1) Book the Renaissance (very girl friendly) or something similar around Jardim Paulista for two guests. The area is super safe with lots of good restaurants and grocery stores within walking distance.

    2) I am not a clinica person, but you can RTFF to get names of some of the better clinicas and hit them up in the afternoon.

    3) For the evenings plan one night at Scandello. Again, RTFF and you will get an idea of pricing. If the pricing is out of your budget, you can try the other ones like Bomboa or Casarao (close to the Renaissance).

    I wouldn't waste my time with escort agencies. You can get a presentation of the girls at the clinicas and Scandello and other boates are like a buffet of women.

    Have fun and make sure you write a report.

  6. #17108

    Addresses

    Quote Originally Posted by Rahsta  [View Original Post]
    Whats 134? Location?
    Building 134 is Alameda Barão de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia.

    Building 69 is Rua dos Andradas 69.

    Building 11 is Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11.

    The first 2 are on the map. The last one is not.

    The american bar I mentioned is Av. São João, 345. On the map its called Prive American Bar.

  7. #17107
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan156  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone know if there's an updated version of this please? Or if it is up to date and to what extent?

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU
    This Google map is very useful. Thanks.

  8. #17106
    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin3541  [View Original Post]
    ... What about agencies? I don't want to wander the streets so I'the prefer to make arrangements ahead of time as well as visit a few clubs.
    I may be wrong with the location. You are not that close to GRU. It is more like midway between the GRU and Sao Paulo. If you just want to go to Scandallo, I think your hotel location is fine for two days. It is actually closer to some other boates less mentioned here. You can use google map to compare the travel time of this location and any other potential locations. You probably will find that they are equal distance.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin3541  [View Original Post]
    So do you have recommendations for a nice hotel in Jardins? Does anyone have any constructive help or just to tell me I did it wrong? ....
    Most mentioned hotel is Renaissance Sao Paulo Hotel

  9. #17105
    BRL $330, be sure to confirm with the garota if you want to have two pops because some of them will try to up charge for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rahsta  [View Original Post]
    Thanks, looks like I've been there before. But I will still check it out.

  10. #17104
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Just a brief rundown of experiences.

    Went to casarao on a Saturday night. Arrived a little past 12. Much bigger than I expected. There's a basement floor I didn't even know existed until about an hour after I was there. General talent is lower then clinicas. Too many guys. It's a 50 cover. I ended up with a girl from Rio with nice tan lines. She quoted me 300 for 30 minutes or 500 for an hour. I took the 30 minute option. Almost every time I've taken an hour I've regretted it. I just don't take that long. You have to leave the club and settle your bill in order to session. The rooms are in the building next door. Rooms cost 50 for 30 minutes and 100 for an hour. This is in addition to what the girl costs. At 2 am on a Saturday night the rooms were a bit busy. Had to wait 20 minutes for our turn. I did notice that the girls waiting for rooms were much more attractive than the girls in the club. So maybe the girls in the club are low quality because all the good ones are fucking.

    I've been back to 134 several times already. On a Friday at 4 pm it was packed. Every time I've been I've seen someone I would do. The next time I went I sessioned 3 times with 3 different girls. Got all their numbers. Not sure if I'm going to use them but at least I got them. I got hassled at the front desk of building 134 for carrying aa plastic grocery bag. They wanted me to check it in at the front desk. It costs 5 to check it in. I just don't like leaving my shit with other people. So I took all the crap out of my bag and put them in my pockets. So keep that in mind if you intend on showing up with a backpack. Bag check is not optional as I thought.

    I made a trip to building 69. The area really isn't as bad as people say it is. If you've been to santa fe Bogota. You'll be fine. Keep your wits about you. I thought the girls would be butt ugly. But they weren't that bad. I'd say a bit of a drop in quality from 134. They tend to be older and fatter but I think they're also cheaper. I've heard it's 30 to session there. I didn't ask. Since no one really caught my attention.

    In the same general area I went to 11 Santa elfinia. Might have gotten the spelling wrong. It's the next street over from building 69. It was really interesting. It's 5 floors of rooms. I think I went too early because most of the doors were closed. I will have to go back at a different time. I think I saw only 5 girls there. None of which I would do.

    There's a park nearby that for sure has some street walkers.

    Since I was in the area I checked out american bar near the park. So the 3 rdfloor. Loud music. No customers at 4 pm in the afternoon. Only one girl. She looked alright. But I didn't get close enough to judge her really well. Left immediately.
    Whats 134? Location?

  11. #17103
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Spelled Abbobora. Just google maps it.
    Thanks, looks like I've been there before. But I will still check it out.

  12. #17102

    Moema Clinica tour

    In my opinion for first-time travelers: first review the list of clinicas on gp-guia, the price list is posted there, and the clinicas wassap numbers are available to see names, faces, and daily lineup, then do the visit for presentation. Much easier to keep track of 15-20 sexy garotas giving you a welcome brasil kiss when you have their names and photos. On your next clinica visit schedule an early booking of your favorite garotas in advance to not miss out.

    I completed visits to Clinica Prime, Abbobora, Tangar, Enjoy, Miruna, and 57 Friends. It's a blast to walk around Moema to see the presentation. Other times it's very disappointing if nothing clicks in an entire lineup of ten garotas. The photos in the lineup can differ from the in-person experience. At Tangar I liked the online photos of Lily Cooper, but during the presentation, I didn't know it was the same Garota. She looked plain, with shorter hair, and different. She has great reviews but not my type. My type is a young Alicia Keys, a sultry Meghan Markle, or a curvy, younger Fiorella Gelli Mattheis all with the Brazilian illusion of passion (IoP).

    Prime, Tangar, and Miruna list new chicas added to the team lineup. Very recently at Miruna started 19-year-old blond natural curves, Lua, all natural everywhere, she seemed new to Miruna, and they had to show her where the rooms were upstairs. During the presentation, I felt like a kid with the cracker jack prize when I spotted her. Chose her right away Lua is a young, hot curvy 19-year-old blonde. Damn, luv Brasil. Got her wassap to arrange directly to hotel session for the next day for less.

    In my opinion, scheduling duplos in advance, four hands threesome for one or two hours is a good bargain. Quite a few times at Prime and Miruna I got the special pricing deals for threesomes, four hands.

    I do 90-minute or two-hour sessions because never know if the same garotas will show up tomorrow or next week.

    Yes, early afternoon sessions prefer clinicas. Tangar has a very deep lineup. The wassap list of fotos and names is at least 20 garotas. I reserve two chicas in advance with the rooms on the first floor. I'the rather wait for those rooms than the long walk upstairs or down in the basement near the kitchen. Tangara has a bar in the basement. A good place to sit, and drink whiskey while waiting for room to be available. After a while, I order drinks delivered to the room. On Sunday afternoons they have a bbq cookout, food, and drinks.

    It's crowded in Tangara, which reminds me of Casaro. Always seems packed with local guys waiting around.

    I figured it's best to schedule two Tangar garotas in advance, reserve gets the rooms on the first floor rooms 1-4 are most convenient. Tangar desk staff are very responsive on wassap.

    One time I had such a great drunken time, we went at it for hours. Just plain, exhausted wiped out, so I left Tangar completely forgetting to pay at the desk. You can leave using the buzzer on the door. I buzzed myself out, jump into the waiting Uber, head to the hotel to recover and get some stage 3 REM sleep. An hour or two later they wassap letting me know I forgot to pay. Oh crap their right, haha I was too exhausted and drunk to pay at the desk. Three back-to-back two-hour no holes barred brasilian threesomes with good music and whiskey wore me out. I text them back saying I will stop by later in the evening on the way to Scandalo to settle up. All was cool, no hassle or issues at all.

    My favorite porno garota at Tangar is Ariella. I always let her choose the other pretty, sexy garotas for our threesome. Damn. Good. Time.

    With Ariella and Larinha threesomes. I pull up Ariellaa porn videos on pornhub, she smiles while the three of us are doing everything in the videos. Damn exhausted, nothing was left out.

    Abbobora has deep an "equipe" team of beautiful garotas. The front desk customer service gal sucks. She gets irritated if you don't remember all the names, she doesn't give another presentation to help you out. Don't think the lineup is on wassap either. She's a pain in the rear about the 15 garotas you just met. Abbobora easily can have 15 -20 garotas during the presentation, gpguia is a great guide to figure out which of them are good performers. So I reviewed a bunch of names first and sessioned with highly reviewed Larissa. Tanned, cute perky energetic.

    She was there only once a week, on weekends. We went to Hotel Shiga next door. Pay by credito, their machine is wonky. The suites are small rooms with AC showers and never enough towels.

    At Prime Blonde Karen is the old-time favorite. She works well with threesomes porno style too. Also went with Camilia in Prime, and she chooses Nadia as a partner for the threesome. Damn, they are a combo, erotic and intense, I see why Prime features them as a duplo couple. Outstanding service, at special pricing, was the perfect session.

  13. #17101

    Notes from the ground

    Just a brief rundown of experiences.

    Went to casarao on a Saturday night. Arrived a little past 12. Much bigger than I expected. There's a basement floor I didn't even know existed until about an hour after I was there. General talent is lower then clinicas. Too many guys. It's a 50 cover. I ended up with a girl from Rio with nice tan lines. She quoted me 300 for 30 minutes or 500 for an hour. I took the 30 minute option. Almost every time I've taken an hour I've regretted it. I just don't take that long. You have to leave the club and settle your bill in order to session. The rooms are in the building next door. Rooms cost 50 for 30 minutes and 100 for an hour. This is in addition to what the girl costs. At 2 am on a Saturday night the rooms were a bit busy. Had to wait 20 minutes for our turn. I did notice that the girls waiting for rooms were much more attractive than the girls in the club. So maybe the girls in the club are low quality because all the good ones are fucking.

    I've been back to 134 several times already. On a Friday at 4 pm it was packed. Every time I've been I've seen someone I would do. The next time I went I sessioned 3 times with 3 different girls. Got all their numbers. Not sure if I'm going to use them but at least I got them. I got hassled at the front desk of building 134 for carrying aa plastic grocery bag. They wanted me to check it in at the front desk. It costs 5 to check it in. I just don't like leaving my shit with other people. So I took all the crap out of my bag and put them in my pockets. So keep that in mind if you intend on showing up with a backpack. Bag check is not optional as I thought.

    I made a trip to building 69. The area really isn't as bad as people say it is. If you've been to santa fe Bogota. You'll be fine. Keep your wits about you. I thought the girls would be butt ugly. But they weren't that bad. I'd say a bit of a drop in quality from 134. They tend to be older and fatter but I think they're also cheaper. I've heard it's 30 to session there. I didn't ask. Since no one really caught my attention.

    In the same general area I went to 11 Santa elfinia. Might have gotten the spelling wrong. It's the next street over from building 69. It was really interesting. It's 5 floors of rooms. I think I went too early because most of the doors were closed. I will have to go back at a different time. I think I saw only 5 girls there. None of which I would do.

    There's a park nearby that for sure has some street walkers.

    Since I was in the area I checked out american bar near the park. So the 3 rdfloor. Loud music. No customers at 4 pm in the afternoon. Only one girl. She looked alright. But I didn't get close enough to judge her really well. Left immediately.

  14. #17100

    Price range?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin3541  [View Original Post]
    I will be in SP next week for two days and looking for some help to maximize my time. Since I'm flying in / out of GRU I will be staying at Holiday Inn Parque Anhembi close to the airport. Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my room there? I like the strip club scene but I also want overnight company. Where must I go and what are the best agencies to line up some company ahead of time.
    You don't say your price range. But as the other poster says no point booking close to the airport because options are slim. If you have coin then book closer to Scandallo. Go there in person. Select from the buffet and make an overnight takeout offer. A lot guys do this. Much better in person to gauge chemistry.

  15. #17099
    Quote Originally Posted by Messiah69  [View Original Post]
    You shoulda done your research before booking a hotel.

    The only reason to ever have your hotel close to any airport is because you want no play, and you're focused strictly on flying out.

    Maybe the right order should have been:

    1). Find out a good hotel that allows girls in. And is close enough to the airport.

    2). Book said hotel then.

    The good thing is. GRU is only about 1 hour from the good parts of SP.

    If you're really interested in getting some play, you can cancel your current booking and get a hotel in Moema or Jardins.
    So do you have recommendations for a nice hotel in Jardins? Does anyone have any constructive help or just to tell me I did it wrong? What about agencies? I don't want to wander the streets so I'the prefer to make arrangements ahead of time as well as visit a few clubs.

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