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  1. #29660

    Recommendations for finding a modern reasonably priced monthly stay condo

    I'm currently looking for some tips and recommendations from those who are familiar with the scene in AC. I am planning a monthly stay in the city and I'm on the lookout for a modern and reasonably priced condo. If you guys have any suggestions or recommendations on where to start my search, I would appreciate the input. Whether it's a specific neighborhood, real estate websites, or any local tips you might have.

  2. #29659

    Teodoro to Constantin St

    Spent nearly 2 weeks recently in AC. The next several reports are of my bar experiences. The word 'update' in my report means that I went in again at a later date and saw something different than the first (or previous) time (s). These are bar reports only. The first batch is the Brown Sugar / Camelot / Insomnia area from Constantin to Teodoro streets. Later reports will be WS area. It rained almost non-stop during my stay; every 2-4 days the rain would break for a few hours, then start again. Rain / street flooding dropped a lot of foot traffic.

    On July 23, NS said: "Camelot bar, had more girls in than the last few bars, probably 20 odd girls, even had 3 or 4 customers,1 customer sitting with the only 2 girls that were ok looking and fairly slim, other girls mixture of oldies and fatties, 1 drink and left." I concur with this. Along the Brown Sugar corridor, depending time of day and other factors, you could easily walk into any of them and see a dozen fuglies and no lookers, or 1 looker. Frightening at times the circumference of some of the ladies. Most of those bars open early now, 10 am-ish (ala Perimeter). I walked into all of those open in the 10-11 am timeframe where a barker outside was calling customers in, more than once, and nearly had to run back outside. In several of them each time I walked in, none of the girls were on the dance floor (or if they were, they were sitting on their butts on the floor). One morning about 10:30 am I ducked into one (SS I think) when the door girl got my attention. Just before the curtain was a cute gogo girl squatting on the floor on her phone. I almost got past her to the curtain without being noticed, when she screamed, way too loud: "Good morning sir! Go inside!" It seemed to me to be a warning to others, like a beaver slapping its tail, rather than an invitation. It was a good warning. As I reached for the curtain I could hear a woman inside screaming "UP! GET UP!" As I entered, I was greeted with the sight of 2 girls sitting on the dance floor, and the remaining 10-ish girls laying down on the perimeter benches. Nobody was dancing to the loud music as there were no customers. An older lady was trying to roust them to stand up and get on the stage. Several times I entered this or that bar in the area to a similar greeting: Girls either laying down, or some of them possibly asleep, with a mama commanding gals to get up and on the stage as a customer was now on-site. In some bars a loud bell rings anytime a customer walks in thru the door, which causes the girls to either stand up and shuffle, or if already standing (still) to start shuffling (like Pavlov is still alive).

    SS update: Popped into SS on my last night, and the girls were all on stage doing the shuffle, and there were at least a handful of customers in the bar. A quick once-over showed 4 do-able, the rest not.

    Old Club, morning: Went inside, didn't bother to sit down. I was the only customer, and the stage was filled with ALL chub / fugs. NO! Emergency egress!

    Soya: Went inside, didn't bother to sit down. I was the only customer, and the stage was filled with fuglies. Emergency egress. Another morning I poked my head in and every GRO was sitting down. This second time I didn't bother stopping for a few seconds to check the level of guapa. Another egress.

    ACE bar: Went inside, didn't bother to sit down. I was the only customer. On stage were about a dozen girls, split between cuties and fuglies. Simple egress.

    Insomnia bar 7 pm: 8 customers, and about 8 girls (all cuties!) dancing, zero fugllies. All the girls were small, appearing 5' or so. Cute bunch. Say YES to the dress.

    Brown Sugar: Had a drink one evening about 9 pm. I was the only customer. Four flat-chested spinners in their 20's, 3 fuglies, 7 total. One drink and out.

    BS update: Went in another night. Me and one other customer. 4 girls: two fuglies, one cute flat spinner, and one booby 7 on the scale. One drink and out. As soon as I ordered a drink and before it came, one of the fuglies and the spinner left the stage and sat down, leaving one fugly and the booby to shuffle.

    Camelot bar: Went in during the late morning, twice, to see chubs / fugs sitting around, no customers. Quick egress. Only went in because the girl outside was pretty. The pretty girl outside, seeing me depart: "Sir where are you going?" Anywhere but in there, sweet-cheeks.

    Camelot update: Went in one evening to see six chubs and 1 do-able. Several gals went on break as soon as I ordered a drink, leaving 1 chub and the do-able on stage. One drink and out.

    Not sure why this group of bars is opening so early with no customers. Early afternoon might be wiser.

    WS report coming soon. WS bars were better for the most part.

    CAVEAT: Whatever I saw and reported here, and additionally whatever another fella saw and reported. These things change constantly in every bar. A shift change, every 30-ish minutes, means the 15 cuties on the stage need to rest their shuffling feeties, and they might be replaced by 15 so-so or fuglies. Alternately several cuties barfine in a short span of time, and the mama throws up chubby replacements. In addition, girls quit and new girls get hired. The scenery changes often / regularly, so take with a grain of salt what is reported here. Two different fellas can see a very different lineup just 30 minutes apart.

  3. #29658

    The Cups in AC

    Hi guys I'm having a glorious time in AC the last 10 days. A dozen different girls and several repeats -- most from Angel Witch because they open early for the morning wood. This trip featured a 32 C or the 45 kilo spinner who was squirting her milk all over me so nice. Also a barely 18 with a nice rack in Subic who took care of me for three days. Also saw some old flames. This place is great for a week or two. Now its back to Duma where I live. Cheers.

  4. #29657
    Quote Originally Posted by Seba0703  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys I'm going to post what I wrote in a number of reports on another site in one big blog. Read and weep!! Sorry I've grouped three places together. I am lazy.

    Finally started my Phillipines holiday, day one being arriving at 7 pm.

    1) at airport the airport taxi was 2000 php to makati. Politely told them I was paying Aussie rates in manila. Walked to where I could see the yellow cabs, cost 480. There's no real taxi line, really weird. Just walk to the yellow taxis.

    2) makati palace hotel. It's okaaaaay. Terrible water pressure though, so no chance of some shower play with girls. Won't stay again. There's a restaurant down stairs in the hotel, it's very good for lunch.

    3) pre arranged PL was waiting for me when I arrived. Sexymay22.5000 including video. She was very sweet and great ass, and I would see again. She's just cool.

    4) Lips, some lovely girls there. I picked two who were the funnest in getting my attention. But there were probably 4 hotter girls. Just under 18 k to take the two out. Went to blue parrot (no one there but two cute girls) then to hotel. They were fun. BBBJ was just okay, the sex with each was really good though, they are best friends in the bar. I'the say they both would have stayed if I wanted. I'll concentrate on hotter girls later, I wanted fun tonight.

    5) 30 minutes after they left I realised the "no doze" caffeine pill I took was working and fuck it, I'm in Manila. Baby. So I walked down to Burgos, tried a bunch of bars at 2 am. There bars were full of 6/10's. I didn't get to Plan be unfortuntaly. I was a bit too tired awake to chat and fuck. I just wanted a long slow handjob to sleep. Picked up 2 massage girls after a Spanish Inquisition about their birth genders. There IDs, and later their vaginas, checked out. But sheesh there was one lady boy just before who almost hit me. The soft round face ones are harder to tell. Anyway they reneged a little on the video (though not entirely). The very hot body one had me grabbing and sucking while the less hot one put in a good honest days labour with her hands. A good combo, 6000 combined.

    6) I stuffed up another PL visit in the middle but stumbled across makati massage (with permission to share). "Isa" is 39,6/10 everything, maybe boobs and ass 7/10, but really great service if you like a loooooong slow unrushed, fun handjob. And who doesn't sometimes? Highly recommend. 2500.

    Off to Subic bay now.

    My Few das in subic bay has ended, so I will give a scrambled update of the next few days I had, in dot points and observations;.

    1) Cheap charlies is great fun even if the girls don't take out. Well I actually got one girl to stay the night. On the promise I'd give her 30 k if I tried anything! This was because this girl and I genuinely like each other and want to spend more time. Anyway, great girls and if you are on holiday, this is more of a holiday bar. Drinks 250, girls get 100.

    2) Voodoo. Drinks 300, girls get 100. Crappy little bar. Why 300 peso a lady drink then? Because the girls are more "hands on". Maybe one cute girl there. Adult fun bar.

    3) Bottoms up. The great girls from last September are gone. While the new ones arent as pretty, they seem cool. There's a young spinner there that is confident beyond her years, and she deserves some business.

    4) Showgirls. Drinks 300, girls get 100. Girls are okay, not great but speak well. The DJ looks cute.

    5) HotZone. The only bar with a "show" and the girls seem fun. Drinks 300, girl gets 100. Couple of cute girls here but nothing amazing.

    6) Green room. Relaxed sports bar, the girls surround you at first then go back to their side of the bar. Its kinda funny. Drinks are 185 (they do not sell doubles) and girls get 75. Bar fine 3900 I think. Emmy or "Barbey" as she is known, as I said before, is a delight. I kinda have a "can only fuck a girl once" on holiday rule with my wife. So I actually barfined Emmy twice to just sleep over and not fuck. Why? Hangout with her and you'll understand. So open minded, non judgemental, positive, fun and ofcourse sexy. Oh she assures me there are a few hot girls there.

    7) Mugshots. Friendly staff, but not hot. Drinks single or double. Double is 300, girl gets 100. Seems a little overpiced compared to green room.

    8 Wet Spot -same price as greenroom (can walk straight through from greenroom. Stage for the girls, some are a bit cute, one or two may be hot. They were playing "Tweeter and the monkey man" by travelling wilburies. How friggan awesome was that. I had just requested it another bar to disapproving looks.

    9) Lux - 240 for drink, girl gets 100. I think barfine was 3000. This is a "hands on" bar again, and probably the nicest bar in Barretto. Girls are close to being hot, buuuut too skinny for me. But they seem nice.

    10) Adams. Girls are very social and friendly and a few sports to play in the bar. I saw an old guy grabbing boobs and p*ssy and a waitress hand up his loose shorts for a while. Good on them and good on him. A good bar, simple.

    11) Whisky girl. Has a stage and pool table and the girls, while not super hot, there are some smaller ones and some older ones still look good. They were fun to talk to.

    12) Alaska. Had better girls than most places. I bar fined one, and she was great. Bit of baby damage, but just a great girl with enough other "assets" and "skills" to make it well worth it. I'm going to guess the bar fine was 4000.

    13) Queen Vic. I went once but was no band due to typhoon. Shame I was looking forward to it.

    14) Thumbstar. Competing with Lux for best decore / furniture. The girls seem nice, I think there were two cute ones on another table but couldn't quite see. I'm guessing the food is good here too.

    15) Rosies. I was about to head over from adams sports bar (accross the road, upstairs) but instead I watched it slowly get flooded. And the lights turn off one by one. So I didn't get to go. I did get to walk back to Greenroom in the middle of the street jumping over the literal waves of water from the cars. A foot of water on the side of the road. The rain stopped, I can't imagine what the flood would have been had it not. Oh and someone stepped on a big catfish. In the friggan road!!

    16) Bar Celona looks great. From Cheap charlies. But I was happy enough at CCs so didn't go over.

    17) Pinalove. Met an amazing young girl (well 26). Simply perfect body and dynamite in bed. She's a strange one in that she has multiple (decent size) businesses and is a nurse, going to spain soon. But still does freelance for 3500. I guess to also meet foreigner (only interested in under 45). Anyway, saw her twice and what a great time.

    18) Pinalove or Tinder. Can't recall as can't find details. But got bait and switched. Not a big deal, but guys just ask them to take a photo that you can trust before meeting. If your lazy, you get what you get.

    19) Jeffu Japanese and Jewel are two pretty good restaurants. Central Park tower is still really solid choice and the girls really love it. But they have no food in the mini bar. Weird.

    Overall, for me 3 nights, which I extended to 4 nights was fine. No there are not a lot (read "any") of day time options for s*x, but that improves after a day or two with girls you meet or can be addressed through pre-arrival Pinalove or tinder girls. Anyway I liked it enough, and that was in a super typhoon. About an hour to get to AC. It was really fast.

    Arrived in AC (central park tower) at about 3 pm and had a girl from Pinal Love (Also on tinder) called Allondra22. She looks good in her photos, she looked. Exactly the same in real person. Cut to the chase, she is lovely. She was absolutely aweseome to have fun with in bed. BBBJ was really great, he boobs are fantastic, her big ass felt great, and she really enjoyed f*cking and had some great skills. I'll definitely see her before she goes. I paid 5000, but you can get her for something with a 3 in front I think, and definitely for 4000. Do yourself a favour and see this girl if you like active participation.

    Later went bar hopping;.

    1) Lollipop. A few really cute girls in Lollipop, it was too early to bar fine, but I really wanted to with this one girl. She was perfect. The bar is fun.

    2) Lucifer. Drinks seemed cheap there and a couple cute girls. One of the nicer bars.

    3) Insomnia. Seemed a bit like windmill in Pattaya. Some girls were getting very involved with some older gentlemen and having a great time. I really liked this bar, in fact I'll start there tonight. Absolutely no pressure to buy a drink, their motto seems to be we are fun, why wouldn't you want to stay.

    4) Aces. Mamasan remembered me from one night last September. UNfortuntely the girl I came to see, Rose, was away for a week. Damn. But really lovely staff, I bought a girl a drink. Well I bought her ass a drink. It deserved two. Theres a 40 year old (spotlight) girl there who made it repeatedly very clear she want to give me a blow job haha.

    5) Las Vegas. A few girls would stop staring at me, and the only one I liked never looked at me once. Don't you hate that.

    6) Vikings. Great bar as you all know. Came close to bar fining a few girls. I will go back.

    7) Dollhouse. Nothing to see here, really weirdly terrible.

    8 Baccara. I think a few girls looked nice but not quite what I wanted.

    9) Sensations. Has some good energy and nice people. Bought a girl a drink, thought about bar fining, but couldn't see enough of her body to be confident.

    10) XS. Seriously? This place is unbelievable and 5 steps above the others for entertainment. I know that may not be a priority for all, but it was genuinely entertaining. They have 300+ girls doing differnt shows. The glow / lazer show is simply excellent. The pole dancing was fantastic. I usually hate this sort of thing. But it was great. I do not understand the economics. Most of the dancing girls just dance, they don't bar fine. So how does my few drinks and bar fine pay for all those entertainment girls earning 1000 peso a night (I was told)? I bar fined Janey. We went to mega dance at 12 and had a great time. She danced crazy with every girl nearby, and she was just great. IN the morning she was a little funny, and we actually didn't f*ck. Which was kinda weird as we got on so well, but I guess we just had such a great time it wasnt a priority when we got back and in the morning I could have but thought ehh I'll save it for another girl. Anyway 5000 bar fine and she was really great. Don't get me wrong. We did fool around a bit.

    11) Next daytime. Cute girl at 123 bar. But on period. Damn. Went to Q bar. It was okay the night before, a couple girls barfinable in quality. I picked the girl in white dress and the only one that didn't stare at me. (I'm young looking, in shape and white. So I get a lot of stares). She was about to get food so I just barfined her (4000) before talking to her. We go to Tuquila Reef (is that it? She ordered a lot and ate very little. 700 pesos for nothing. Only said a few word to me during lunch, on my asking. Anyway, I know you should never bar fine a girl not showing interest. But I wanted to test the theory and she has tha best side boob going on (not massive but great), and I had to know more. Back in room she takes shower. I sit on bed and pull her in. She kisses. Hmmm. Interesting for someone so stand offish. I get the towell off. Ding ding ding, jesus christ. What a perfect body. PERFECT. She was just realllly shy, but certainy got into as we went. Not crazy style, but I could tell she loved it and some of the positions. All up it was all worth it. Jeeze, that body. Here name is Kate.

    I can't recall where I go to in my last report, but I'll group a few days together from what I remember. Angeles City;.

    Party One Bar - 1500 peso for short time. Ofcourse this is the smallest bar in the phillipines, it is quite hillarious. Especially when there are 4 girls in there. I took out Crezzel (or something like that), party to test if a 1500 peso girl is really any worse than a 4000 girl (and yes I know the 4000 girl is 1500 for locals on her day off). Anyway, Crezzel is missing a couple of side teeth (which I weird find cute), but otherwise she was objectively beautiful. BBBJ was great, really great. Her body was really good. Sex was fun and intimate. So I highly recommend her. Another chubby girl in the bar looked very cute too if you like that.

    Massage girl. JemalynBondoc - Pinalove. All I can say is this girl has had some terrible luck. I won't tell you how much I gave her to help her out, as I'm sure some people will get annoyed with me for being a human. But she has lovely hands and is very sweet, so do give her some work if you can.

    69 Rock bar. Rooftop bar. There was no sign on the ground level but I found the elevator (to the left of the pharmacy). Oddly designed space with the bar area in the middle taking up 80% of the rooms space. A desgin flaw I'm sure. BUT the girls are lovely / down right friggan hot, the pizza is pretty good (they actually cook the bottom). And it plays rock music. Only let down was the guy choosing latin rnb. When I came to listen to rock music. But he was spending alot of money so I get it. But still. Its a rock bar, come on. Stick to the theme.

    Insomnia. I really like this bar as it has everything. Good entertainment from the girls, food, great layout, girls are fun and. Hands on. No other bar I saw has this combination. Sure XS has better entertainment, but it doesn't have a fun atmosphere. Anyway I barfined Rea (dark skin and best ass in angeles). She was lovely. Actually Insomnia generally has the best ass ratio in angeles if that's your thing.

    I have a girl visiting from Subic in a minute, so will be a quiet night. BUt tomorrow night I'll bar hop a little and try to get to MDC disco. If anyone has any bars they want me to check before I leave on Friday just ask me, I'm happy to.

    Central Park Tower is still pretty good combo of everything. Room, late night pool, food, access to walking street, very girl friendly.

    Update to my AC adventure. My subic bay girl stayed two days instead on one, which killed my further barhopping plans. It was nice for her to go from saying she'd never barfine to saying fuck me harder. Haha. Though the next day she turned back into conservative girl.

    Mega Dance Centre. Had two nice nights here, though much busier on the Sunday than the Wednesday. Both times had a girl already so couldn't do much. But there are certainly nice girls doing laps, so grab a table and wait if you want to be a lazy hunter. Personally I perfer to see the girls in their preferred clothes to get an idea of their personaility, rather than seeing them in a bikini etc, though ofcourse the latter is better for ensuring no suprises later. Side note. Ofcourse generally if a girl is covering a part of her body and showing another part you should be pessimistic about the bit being covered. Girls are stupid. But then you miss out on the absolute delight of later finding out the covered bit is great too. One of lifes greatest joys is finding some amazing boobs, butt or tummy previously being hidden. If you have limited time though. Go to the bar for bikini.

    Anyway, I had a Pina Love girl come over for massage and video as she was on period so sex was out. She was 2 hours late. So when she arrived I dropped the price from 3 k to 2 k. (I know 3 k is high but wanted video). She agreed with me that I wasn't nice, but I was fair. The girl was Jowelaine012. She was okay. There was something sexy about her.

    When my subic girl was here and was sleeping in. Verrrry late. I decided to go meet another girl from Pina Love. Phiaaa2023. This girl is very slim, tattoos, okay butt and really great boobs. Be cup but given she was so skinny, they seemed big. They were perfect shape and firmness. Anyway she was so light that standup / pickup s*x was easy and she has a beautiful face. Anyway I recommend her if you like small girls. I think I paid 4 k.

    That was about it, only other observations were;.

    1) As already stated by others, filipinas fall in love verrrry quickly. Most of the girls I saw wanted long time and would have stayed for days if I let them.

    2) They are addicted to their phones. And I mean addicted. I get it, there's not much more to do in AC, but you have to try to pry them away.

    3) Trikes. The locals don't ask for price they just always give 100 at the end, fairly regardless of the trip length. If you ask they then know you are tourist and will ask for 150. So either tell them 100 period or say nothing and just give them 100 at the end.

    4) The girls get drunk fast if not drinking their staple from the bar. 10 beers at the bar no problem. 2 cocktails at the club and drunk.

    Just an update. My last night in phillipines was also in Manila.

    1) New Coast Hotel. Really lovely hotel and great location if you want to go LA, Z6. The dumpling place across the road is so cheap and so so good! Very girl friendly hotel.

    2) I got a Pina Love girl for a couple hours when I first arrived (after 3. 5 HR drive from Angeles due to the floods). Sorry I lost her name when deleted the account. She was funny, she had a big tummy that made her look pregnant, but it was fine. And had really big and nice breasts, cute butt and pretty face. So I was happy. It was 5 k and for those boobs I was happy. I'm sure I could have got her for more like 3. 5 k if I wanted to haggle but I was in a rush.

    3) Went to LA cafe to see a girl I met the year before, Jessa. Such a lovely girl and legs and ass are out of this world. I was going to get her to pick another girl for me but I was happy to just be with her as I'd already planned to spend the next day with her (9 pm flight home). Anyway observations;.

    (I) She cost 7 k normally. She was happy to see me for free but I want to help her so I insisted on paying. And to keep the line between customer and boyfriend clear. Her friend is also 7 k so that seems the norm for 7/10 girls. Aparrantly some Japanese guys pay 10 k short time, no problem. Hence why the girls swarm around them. I'm sure a lot of girls would take 5 k easily.

    (ii) Need to be careful with waitresses as drinks are expensive. I bought quite a few but I really like a couple of the waitresses and it was my last night. One waitress remembered what I ordered to eat from 11 months earlier on my single night there. Not bad. But you do need to be careful.

    (iii) The girls. I've never seen so many 6. 5/10 girls in the one place, and I mean this as a good thing. Yes there are some 4 and 5's, but sheesh on a Friday night at least 30 6. 5's with a few 7's. Later in the night, say midnight, better looking girls come in, I'm sure a saw a few 8's. There is one girl who walks around like she is a snobby queen. She looked at my disapprovingly, as though who was I to choose someone that wasn't her when it was clear we had some mutual interest. Maybe she remembered me looking at her last time I was there (last Sept). I remember her atleast.

    (iv) Some girls sleep upstairs, its 150 pesos per day. Just an FYI.

    (v) Dusk till Dawn. A couple waitresses are cute, but more importantly their pizza is really good. Super thin and crispy.

    (vi) The 3 min walk from New Coast to Robinsons Mall (a nice mall inside) has lots of girls offering massage, and some look pretty cute.
    At any point using pina love did you think there were non hookers on there, or did you realize pretty quick everyone on there is a working girl.

  5. #29656
    Agreed. I effing love AC. I think about it most days. Looking forward to my return soon. Sure, it's not for everyone, but it is for me. Give it a shot and judge for yoruself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I'd encourage anyone, especially newbies, to read your reports, but realise that there is always the one guy who is constantly complaining about his surrounding and doubting that others can actually enjoy themselves. Then read the reports of guys who went and had bad, good and exceptional nights. All are possible now in AC.

    Enjoy. G.

  6. #29655

    Great

    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    Today, NS: "Maybe making a recent angeles city visit after your many years away will have you see for yourself what angeles has become.".

    I made an AC visit mid-late last year, and another last month (just under 2 weeks duration). I will be providing several reports soon regarding the bars, girl quality, and prices. While I sometimes disagree with NS, my recent visit at times will concur with his views and reflect that in an upcoming report. Other of my reports will will disagree with his views. When I visited last year (first visit after covid), my general impression was that AC had deteriorated: Barfine prices had nearly doubled to 5 k, runners were more prevalent (as reported here), and the number of Korean bars had jumped to about half. OTOH at the time I thought most bars had slightly better looking girls than prior to covid. I thought at that time that NS was over the top in his complaints of girlie looks.

    That was then, and things have changed since last year. Reports coming when Westy's scrawny fingers have the time to type.
    Westy, great to hear you have made a very recent visit and agree with some of what I have to say and write here.

    Everyone sees something different depending on their own views, I write my views and experiences, that's it, I'm no expert.

    Looking forward greatly to hear your views and experiences so get those fingers clicking on the key board soon.

  7. #29654

    Hookers' Coca Cola Prices

    Hookers are not different from Coca Cola, which boasts its product is the same world wide and that a kid in a Colombian ghetto can enjoy the same experience a US President can. When I first visited the Philippines almost 40 years ago, I was struck by the ubiquity of Coca Cola and ads for it.

    Today, I am struck by the disparity between Filipiina hooker prices in Europe and the Philippines for what is a differently packaged experience.

    I am now researching EU flea pits along the Northern Mediterranean coast. Some of them are right war zones.

    I feel it is better for me as I am an Arab dog.

    Q: Why are Arab dogs the fastest in the world?

    A: Because the trees are so far apart.

    Angeles is what it is. Knocking it Mike Tyson style is like saying resort A is better than resort be. They are just different and may suit different people. Try buying a Coca Cola in the Champs-Élysées to see what I mean.

    Prostitution, red light districts, are generally in sleazy area and when. Like parts of Singapore, Patpong etc, they take out the sleeze, the prices go north and they often become family friendly, which is fine if that is what you want. Family friendly means more women which means more shopping, which is good for shop keepers. If you prefer down and dirty and not even the expense of condoms, Angeles is still for you.

  8. #29653

    Phillipine adventure. Manila, subic bay, Angeles City

    Hi guys I'm going to post what I wrote in a number of reports on another site in one big blog. Read and weep!! Sorry I've grouped three places together. I am lazy.

    Finally started my Phillipines holiday, day one being arriving at 7 pm.

    1) at airport the airport taxi was 2000 php to makati. Politely told them I was paying Aussie rates in manila. Walked to where I could see the yellow cabs, cost 480. There's no real taxi line, really weird. Just walk to the yellow taxis.

    2) makati palace hotel. It's okaaaaay. Terrible water pressure though, so no chance of some shower play with girls. Won't stay again. There's a restaurant down stairs in the hotel, it's very good for lunch.

    3) pre arranged PL was waiting for me when I arrived. Sexymay22.5000 including video. She was very sweet and great ass, and I would see again. She's just cool.

    4) Lips, some lovely girls there. I picked two who were the funnest in getting my attention. But there were probably 4 hotter girls. Just under 18 k to take the two out. Went to blue parrot (no one there but two cute girls) then to hotel. They were fun. BBBJ was just okay, the sex with each was really good though, they are best friends in the bar. I'the say they both would have stayed if I wanted. I'll concentrate on hotter girls later, I wanted fun tonight.

    5) 30 minutes after they left I realised the "no doze" caffeine pill I took was working and fuck it, I'm in Manila. Baby. So I walked down to Burgos, tried a bunch of bars at 2 am. There bars were full of 6/10's. I didn't get to Plan be unfortuntaly. I was a bit too tired awake to chat and fuck. I just wanted a long slow handjob to sleep. Picked up 2 massage girls after a Spanish Inquisition about their birth genders. There IDs, and later their vaginas, checked out. But sheesh there was one lady boy just before who almost hit me. The soft round face ones are harder to tell. Anyway they reneged a little on the video (though not entirely). The very hot body one had me grabbing and sucking while the less hot one put in a good honest days labour with her hands. A good combo, 6000 combined.

    6) I stuffed up another PL visit in the middle but stumbled across makati massage (+63 916 765 6722 with permission to share). "Isa" is 39,6/10 everything, maybe boobs and ass 7/10, but really great service if you like a loooooong slow unrushed, fun handjob. And who doesn't sometimes? Highly recommend. 2500.

    Off to Subic bay now.

    My Few das in subic bay has ended, so I will give a scrambled update of the next few days I had, in dot points and observations;.

    1) Cheap charlies is great fun even if the girls don't take out. Well I actually got one girl to stay the night. On the promise I'd give her 30 k if I tried anything! This was because this girl and I genuinely like each other and want to spend more time. Anyway, great girls and if you are on holiday, this is more of a holiday bar. Drinks 250, girls get 100.

    2) Voodoo. Drinks 300, girls get 100. Crappy little bar. Why 300 peso a lady drink then? Because the girls are more "hands on". Maybe one cute girl there. Adult fun bar.

    3) Bottoms up. The great girls from last September are gone. While the new ones arent as pretty, they seem cool. There's a young spinner there that is confident beyond her years, and she deserves some business.

    4) Showgirls. Drinks 300, girls get 100. Girls are okay, not great but speak well. The DJ looks cute.

    5) HotZone. The only bar with a "show" and the girls seem fun. Drinks 300, girl gets 100. Couple of cute girls here but nothing amazing.

    6) Green room. Relaxed sports bar, the girls surround you at first then go back to their side of the bar. Its kinda funny. Drinks are 185 (they do not sell doubles) and girls get 75. Bar fine 3900 I think. Emmy or "Barbey" as she is known, as I said before, is a delight. I kinda have a "can only fuck a girl once" on holiday rule with my wife. So I actually barfined Emmy twice to just sleep over and not fuck. Why? Hangout with her and you'll understand. So open minded, non judgemental, positive, fun and ofcourse sexy. Oh she assures me there are a few hot girls there.

    7) Mugshots. Friendly staff, but not hot. Drinks single or double. Double is 300, girl gets 100. Seems a little overpiced compared to green room.

    8 Wet Spot -same price as greenroom (can walk straight through from greenroom. Stage for the girls, some are a bit cute, one or two may be hot. They were playing "Tweeter and the monkey man" by travelling wilburies. How friggan awesome was that. I had just requested it another bar to disapproving looks.

    9) Lux - 240 for drink, girl gets 100. I think barfine was 3000. This is a "hands on" bar again, and probably the nicest bar in Barretto. Girls are close to being hot, buuuut too skinny for me. But they seem nice.

    10) Adams. Girls are very social and friendly and a few sports to play in the bar. I saw an old guy grabbing boobs and p*ssy and a waitress hand up his loose shorts for a while. Good on them and good on him. A good bar, simple.

    11) Whisky girl. Has a stage and pool table and the girls, while not super hot, there are some smaller ones and some older ones still look good. They were fun to talk to.

    12) Alaska. Had better girls than most places. I bar fined one, and she was great. Bit of baby damage, but just a great girl with enough other "assets" and "skills" to make it well worth it. I'm going to guess the bar fine was 4000.

    13) Queen Vic. I went once but was no band due to typhoon. Shame I was looking forward to it.

    14) Thumbstar. Competing with Lux for best decore / furniture. The girls seem nice, I think there were two cute ones on another table but couldn't quite see. I'm guessing the food is good here too.

    15) Rosies. I was about to head over from adams sports bar (accross the road, upstairs) but instead I watched it slowly get flooded. And the lights turn off one by one. So I didn't get to go. I did get to walk back to Greenroom in the middle of the street jumping over the literal waves of water from the cars. A foot of water on the side of the road. The rain stopped, I can't imagine what the flood would have been had it not. Oh and someone stepped on a big catfish. In the friggan road!!

    16) Bar Celona looks great. From Cheap charlies. But I was happy enough at CCs so didn't go over.

    17) Pinalove. Met an amazing young girl (well 26). Simply perfect body and dynamite in bed. She's a strange one in that she has multiple (decent size) businesses and is a nurse, going to spain soon. But still does freelance for 3500. I guess to also meet foreigner (only interested in under 45). Anyway, saw her twice and what a great time.

    18) Pinalove or Tinder. Can't recall as can't find details. But got bait and switched. Not a big deal, but guys just ask them to take a photo that you can trust before meeting. If your lazy, you get what you get.

    19) Jeffu Japanese and Jewel are two pretty good restaurants. Central Park tower is still really solid choice and the girls really love it. But they have no food in the mini bar. Weird.

    Overall, for me 3 nights, which I extended to 4 nights was fine. No there are not a lot (read "any") of day time options for s*x, but that improves after a day or two with girls you meet or can be addressed through pre-arrival Pinalove or tinder girls. Anyway I liked it enough, and that was in a super typhoon. About an hour to get to AC. It was really fast.

    Arrived in AC (central park tower) at about 3 pm and had a girl from Pinal Love (Also on tinder) called Allondra22. She looks good in her photos, she looked. Exactly the same in real person. Cut to the chase, she is lovely. She was absolutely aweseome to have fun with in bed. BBBJ was really great, he boobs are fantastic, her big ass felt great, and she really enjoyed f*cking and had some great skills. I'll definitely see her before she goes. I paid 5000, but you can get her for something with a 3 in front I think, and definitely for 4000. Do yourself a favour and see this girl if you like active participation.

    Later went bar hopping;.

    1) Lollipop. A few really cute girls in Lollipop, it was too early to bar fine, but I really wanted to with this one girl. She was perfect. The bar is fun.

    2) Lucifer. Drinks seemed cheap there and a couple cute girls. One of the nicer bars.

    3) Insomnia. Seemed a bit like windmill in Pattaya. Some girls were getting very involved with some older gentlemen and having a great time. I really liked this bar, in fact I'll start there tonight. Absolutely no pressure to buy a drink, their motto seems to be we are fun, why wouldn't you want to stay.

    4) Aces. Mamasan remembered me from one night last September. UNfortuntely the girl I came to see, Rose, was away for a week. Damn. But really lovely staff, I bought a girl a drink. Well I bought her ass a drink. It deserved two. Theres a 40 year old (spotlight) girl there who made it repeatedly very clear she want to give me a blow job haha.

    5) Las Vegas. A few girls would stop staring at me, and the only one I liked never looked at me once. Don't you hate that.

    6) Vikings. Great bar as you all know. Came close to bar fining a few girls. I will go back.

    7) Dollhouse. Nothing to see here, really weirdly terrible.

    8 Baccara. I think a few girls looked nice but not quite what I wanted.

    9) Sensations. Has some good energy and nice people. Bought a girl a drink, thought about bar fining, but couldn't see enough of her body to be confident.

    10) XS. Seriously? This place is unbelievable and 5 steps above the others for entertainment. I know that may not be a priority for all, but it was genuinely entertaining. They have 300+ girls doing differnt shows. The glow / lazer show is simply excellent. The pole dancing was fantastic. I usually hate this sort of thing. But it was great. I do not understand the economics. Most of the dancing girls just dance, they don't bar fine. So how does my few drinks and bar fine pay for all those entertainment girls earning 1000 peso a night (I was told)? I bar fined Janey. We went to mega dance at 12 and had a great time. She danced crazy with every girl nearby, and she was just great. IN the morning she was a little funny, and we actually didn't f*ck. Which was kinda weird as we got on so well, but I guess we just had such a great time it wasnt a priority when we got back and in the morning I could have but thought ehh I'll save it for another girl. Anyway 5000 bar fine and she was really great. Don't get me wrong. We did fool around a bit.

    11) Next daytime. Cute girl at 123 bar. But on period. Damn. Went to Q bar. It was okay the night before, a couple girls barfinable in quality. I picked the girl in white dress and the only one that didn't stare at me. (I'm young looking, in shape and white. So I get a lot of stares). She was about to get food so I just barfined her (4000) before talking to her. We go to Tuquila Reef (is that it? She ordered a lot and ate very little. 700 pesos for nothing. Only said a few word to me during lunch, on my asking. Anyway, I know you should never bar fine a girl not showing interest. But I wanted to test the theory and she has tha best side boob going on (not massive but great), and I had to know more. Back in room she takes shower. I sit on bed and pull her in. She kisses. Hmmm. Interesting for someone so stand offish. I get the towell off. Ding ding ding, jesus christ. What a perfect body. PERFECT. She was just realllly shy, but certainy got into as we went. Not crazy style, but I could tell she loved it and some of the positions. All up it was all worth it. Jeeze, that body. Here name is Kate.

    I can't recall where I go to in my last report, but I'll group a few days together from what I remember. Angeles City;.

    Party One Bar - 1500 peso for short time. Ofcourse this is the smallest bar in the phillipines, it is quite hillarious. Especially when there are 4 girls in there. I took out Crezzel (or something like that), party to test if a 1500 peso girl is really any worse than a 4000 girl (and yes I know the 4000 girl is 1500 for locals on her day off). Anyway, Crezzel is missing a couple of side teeth (which I weird find cute), but otherwise she was objectively beautiful. BBBJ was great, really great. Her body was really good. Sex was fun and intimate. So I highly recommend her. Another chubby girl in the bar looked very cute too if you like that.

    Massage girl. JemalynBondoc - Pinalove. All I can say is this girl has had some terrible luck. I won't tell you how much I gave her to help her out, as I'm sure some people will get annoyed with me for being a human. But she has lovely hands and is very sweet, so do give her some work if you can.

    69 Rock bar. Rooftop bar. There was no sign on the ground level but I found the elevator (to the left of the pharmacy). Oddly designed space with the bar area in the middle taking up 80% of the rooms space. A desgin flaw I'm sure. BUT the girls are lovely / down right friggan hot, the pizza is pretty good (they actually cook the bottom). And it plays rock music. Only let down was the guy choosing latin rnb. When I came to listen to rock music. But he was spending alot of money so I get it. But still. Its a rock bar, come on. Stick to the theme.

    Insomnia. I really like this bar as it has everything. Good entertainment from the girls, food, great layout, girls are fun and. Hands on. No other bar I saw has this combination. Sure XS has better entertainment, but it doesn't have a fun atmosphere. Anyway I barfined Rea (dark skin and best ass in angeles). She was lovely. Actually Insomnia generally has the best ass ratio in angeles if that's your thing.

    I have a girl visiting from Subic in a minute, so will be a quiet night. BUt tomorrow night I'll bar hop a little and try to get to MDC disco. If anyone has any bars they want me to check before I leave on Friday just ask me, I'm happy to.

    Central Park Tower is still pretty good combo of everything. Room, late night pool, food, access to walking street, very girl friendly.

    Update to my AC adventure. My subic bay girl stayed two days instead on one, which killed my further barhopping plans. It was nice for her to go from saying she'd never barfine to saying fuck me harder. Haha. Though the next day she turned back into conservative girl.

    Mega Dance Centre. Had two nice nights here, though much busier on the Sunday than the Wednesday. Both times had a girl already so couldn't do much. But there are certainly nice girls doing laps, so grab a table and wait if you want to be a lazy hunter. Personally I perfer to see the girls in their preferred clothes to get an idea of their personaility, rather than seeing them in a bikini etc, though ofcourse the latter is better for ensuring no suprises later. Side note. Ofcourse generally if a girl is covering a part of her body and showing another part you should be pessimistic about the bit being covered. Girls are stupid. But then you miss out on the absolute delight of later finding out the covered bit is great too. One of lifes greatest joys is finding some amazing boobs, butt or tummy previously being hidden. If you have limited time though. Go to the bar for bikini.

    Anyway, I had a Pina Love girl come over for massage and video as she was on period so sex was out. She was 2 hours late. So when she arrived I dropped the price from 3 k to 2 k. (I know 3 k is high but wanted video). She agreed with me that I wasn't nice, but I was fair. The girl was Jowelaine012. She was okay. There was something sexy about her.

    When my subic girl was here and was sleeping in. Verrrry late. I decided to go meet another girl from Pina Love. Phiaaa2023. This girl is very slim, tattoos, okay butt and really great boobs. Be cup but given she was so skinny, they seemed big. They were perfect shape and firmness. Anyway she was so light that standup / pickup s*x was easy and she has a beautiful face. Anyway I recommend her if you like small girls. I think I paid 4 k.

    That was about it, only other observations were;.

    1) As already stated by others, filipinas fall in love verrrry quickly. Most of the girls I saw wanted long time and would have stayed for days if I let them.

    2) They are addicted to their phones. And I mean addicted. I get it, there's not much more to do in AC, but you have to try to pry them away.

    3) Trikes. The locals don't ask for price they just always give 100 at the end, fairly regardless of the trip length. If you ask they then know you are tourist and will ask for 150. So either tell them 100 period or say nothing and just give them 100 at the end.

    4) The girls get drunk fast if not drinking their staple from the bar. 10 beers at the bar no problem. 2 cocktails at the club and drunk.

    Just an update. My last night in phillipines was also in Manila.

    1) New Coast Hotel. Really lovely hotel and great location if you want to go LA, Z6. The dumpling place across the road is so cheap and so so good! Very girl friendly hotel.

    2) I got a Pina Love girl for a couple hours when I first arrived (after 3. 5 HR drive from Angeles due to the floods). Sorry I lost her name when deleted the account. She was funny, she had a big tummy that made her look pregnant, but it was fine. And had really big and nice breasts, cute butt and pretty face. So I was happy. It was 5 k and for those boobs I was happy. I'm sure I could have got her for more like 3. 5 k if I wanted to haggle but I was in a rush.

    3) Went to LA cafe to see a girl I met the year before, Jessa. Such a lovely girl and legs and ass are out of this world. I was going to get her to pick another girl for me but I was happy to just be with her as I'd already planned to spend the next day with her (9 pm flight home). Anyway observations;.

    (I) She cost 7 k normally. She was happy to see me for free but I want to help her so I insisted on paying. And to keep the line between customer and boyfriend clear. Her friend is also 7 k so that seems the norm for 7/10 girls. Aparrantly some Japanese guys pay 10 k short time, no problem. Hence why the girls swarm around them. I'm sure a lot of girls would take 5 k easily.

    (ii) Need to be careful with waitresses as drinks are expensive. I bought quite a few but I really like a couple of the waitresses and it was my last night. One waitress remembered what I ordered to eat from 11 months earlier on my single night there. Not bad. But you do need to be careful.

    (iii) The girls. I've never seen so many 6. 5/10 girls in the one place, and I mean this as a good thing. Yes there are some 4 and 5's, but sheesh on a Friday night at least 30 6. 5's with a few 7's. Later in the night, say midnight, better looking girls come in, I'm sure a saw a few 8's. There is one girl who walks around like she is a snobby queen. She looked at my disapprovingly, as though who was I to choose someone that wasn't her when it was clear we had some mutual interest. Maybe she remembered me looking at her last time I was there (last Sept). I remember her atleast.

    (iv) Some girls sleep upstairs, its 150 pesos per day. Just an FYI.

    (v) Dusk till Dawn. A couple waitresses are cute, but more importantly their pizza is really good. Super thin and crispy.

    (vi) The 3 min walk from New Coast to Robinsons Mall (a nice mall inside) has lots of girls offering massage, and some look pretty cute.

  9. #29652
    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Maybe making a recent angeles city visit after your many years away will have you see for yourself what angeles has become.

    Therefore Running off to snooky (sihanoukville) might then be a mighty good idea.
    Why, when we have fine local commentators like yourself giving us the most recent updates?

    So far you have established:

    1/. AC bargirls' attitude suck with early runners, clock watchers and work to rule service normal.

    2/. The hottest girls prefer free spending and easy to please Koreans.

    3/. AC is a shit hole.

    4/. Prices are going up.

    5/. A couple more stunning revelations that I've probably missed.

    Let us know when you have some more earth shattering developments as all of these have been ongoing for at least 10 or 15 years so really no new news here.

    The one thing omitted, however, is that despite these, many still go for their own reasons and have a great time.

    I'd encourage anyone, especially newbies, to read your reports, but realise that there is always the one guy who is constantly complaining about his surrounding and doubting that others can actually enjoy themselves. Then read the reports of guys who went and had bad, good and exceptional nights. All are possible now in AC.

    Enjoy. G.

  10. #29651
    Today, NS: "Maybe making a recent angeles city visit after your many years away will have you see for yourself what angeles has become.".

    I made an AC visit mid-late last year, and another last month (just under 2 weeks duration). I will be providing several reports soon regarding the bars, girl quality, and prices. While I sometimes disagree with NS, my recent visit at times will concur with his views and reflect that in an upcoming report. Other of my reports will will disagree with his views. When I visited last year (first visit after covid), my general impression was that AC had deteriorated: Barfine prices had nearly doubled to 5 k, runners were more prevalent (as reported here), and the number of Korean bars had jumped to about half. OTOH at the time I thought most bars had slightly better looking girls than prior to covid. I thought at that time that NS was over the top in his complaints of girlie looks.

    That was then, and things have changed since last year. Reports coming when Westy's scrawny fingers have the time to type.

  11. #29650
    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCrazy  [View Original Post]
    This sounds good. I had plans to make a first trip to Singapore prior to COVID, then reports were that COVID had killed the prime venues (Brix, Orchard Towers, Geylang). Sounds like it's still worth a trip. What are your favorite venues?
    Geylang is back and active. Ipanema has opened in a new location. But a large amount of the girls are available online. Also many MPs with extras scattered all over the city. Or you can try your luck in the aptly named Lucky Plaza on Sunday with the Filipina maids.

  12. #29649

    Delusional

    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Sihanoukville, any of the casinos or bars, clubs have multiple freelancers,
    Which casinos or bars / clubs? Only been to couple of casinos. Didn't see anything. The old Utopia and Dolphin bar / clubs are no more. They were the best.

    Again, you forgot to mention the important information. The major avenue for the Chinese are the KTVs.

    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    the area by the docks,
    The area that was a brothel area 20 years ago, that had 1 club and several shacks, that takes 30 minutes to get to. I think someone posted about that area a few years ago. Is it still there? That's good and easy? Ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Nha trang, ever tried the sailing club on beach road, multiple very attractive pros to be found just here,
    Yes. Went there about 10 years ago, only once. I read about scene on the internet; didn't see that scene. Maybe I was there too early, maybe not. YOU need to be more diligent reading about things on the internet. Some are outdated and / or incorrect.

    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    also multiple freelancers on beach road at sunset to name a few places.
    Really? I do admit I haven't been there in about 10 years. I'm surprise the authorities would allow that stuff along the main Beach Road, where families are gathered. I've read the Russians overran that place (before the war). I might go there this coming December.

    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Bali, ever been to kuta, if you can't find multiple street freelancers or multiple freelancers in many bars then taking off your blindfold might be advisable.
    I always stay at Kuta.

    Many bars? Really? What is the name of the other bar? I only saw 1 large bar with multiple floors that had some of that action. The glory days of pre-Bali bombing are over. That was the best; the 2 bombing targets were the best (Padys and Sari Club were amazing).

    Saw only a few street freelancers. Where do they hang out at? LOL! I know, no real answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by NapaSlapper  [View Original Post]
    Angeles does not have anything that cannot be found any where else,
    Your answers lack complete understanding. The original question you reply to was where else is it this easy as Angeles.

    Philippines has go-go bars, where you go, point and choose.

    Thailand has them (IMO, the best, overall). Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Bali does not have them. It takes more effort in Vietnam, Laos, and Bali. Definitely not as "easy" as Angeles.

  13. #29648
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Running to Snooky because AC has been taken over by Asians: now there's a plan!!

    Bali is full of free spirited, fun girls keen to provide outstanding and unrushed service at bargain prices. Not!! One could join the production line hookers banging a dozen guys a day on cum soaked mattresses in Sanur X houses as backup plan.

    The reality is that those with game can latch onto the girl groups (Indo or foreign) for some holiday fun or those without can pay for the mega hot and mega entitled Instagram set.

    Enjoy. G.
    Maybe making a recent angeles city visit after your many years away will have you see for yourself what angeles has become.

    Therefore Running off to snooky (sihanoukville) might then be a mighty good idea.

  14. #29647
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    Really? Sihanoukville? Where?

    Bali... a pain.

    Please educate us. Some info without hyperboles would be nice.
    Running to Snooky because AC has been taken over by Asians: now there's a plan!!

    Bali is full of free spirited, fun girls keen to provide outstanding and unrushed service at bargain prices. Not!! One could join the production line hookers banging a dozen guys a day on cum soaked mattresses in Sanur X houses as backup plan.

    The reality is that those with game can latch onto the girl groups (Indo or foreign) for some holiday fun or those without can pay for the mega hot and mega entitled Instagram set.

    Enjoy. G.

  15. #29646
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    Really? Sihanoukville? Where?

    Wow! Vientiane is easy?

    Bali and Nha Trang are a pain.

    Please educate us. Some info without hyperboles would be nice.
    Sihanoukville, any of the casinos or bars, clubs have multiple freelancers, the area by the docks, many girls available or did you think the thousands of overseas chinese there were going without pussy.

    Nha trang, ever tried the sailing club on beach road, multiple very attractive pros to be found just here, also multiple freelancers on beach road at sunset to name a few places.

    Bali, ever been to kuta, if you can't find multiple street freelancers or multiple freelancers in many bars then taking off your blindfold might be advisable.

    Prostitution is available in most all asian countries as well as most countries the world over.

    Angeles does not have anything that cannot be found any where else, in fact it is fairly low in the list of destinations for available young, slim, good looking girls as has has been said by multiple members here and why the angeles streets are empty of westerner mongers while other asian destinations are heaving.

    Therefore Consider your self to have been educated greenbud.

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