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  1. #54707

    Confirmed for Bow-are and Lyn Lhin

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Next thing you know some of the girls will be referring to it as "Real Sex. " In which case I am happy to offer a humble "You're welcome, gentlemen. " LOL.

    Actually, the strange way it is mentioned on some girls' profiles is one of the reasons I qualified and tempered my praise of those mentions with "True or not at crunch time. " Why not use the more conventional terms for it? Is there a translation issue such that they don't really mean what we think they mean? Was it written by someone else who gains from a booking and whatever hassle or confrontation the girl has about it in the room "at crunch time" is her problem?

    Well anyway I do understand the part about, as TConor added, "With a 2 k extra charge. " Is that from first-hand personal experience, TConor? I assumed there would be an extra charge for it.

    I want girls who agree upfront to BBFS+CIP even in writing to make more money. I want their co-workers to know they are making more money. And an extra charge for it helps to confirm that it means what we think it means and not something else. However, if there is a mention of how much the extra charge for that is on all their profiles or elsewhere on the website I guess I missed it.
    As messaged with mamasan, asked and answered.

  2. #54706

    The website should define the terms better for the girls as well as for the customers

    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiGoodTimes  [View Original Post]
    And Nami's profile page there says "Release semen into the body".

    What the?

    https://smilebangkak.com/nami/

    While Haru's profile page doesn't repeat the mention of no condom, just "Extreme Sex".

    https://smilebangkak.com/haru/
    Next thing you know some of the girls will be referring to it as "Real Sex. " In which case I am happy to offer a humble "You're welcome, gentlemen. " LOL.

    Actually, the strange way it is mentioned on some girls' profiles is one of the reasons I qualified and tempered my praise of those mentions with "True or not at crunch time. " Why not use the more conventional terms for it? Is there a translation issue such that they don't really mean what we think they mean? Was it written by someone else who gains from a booking and whatever hassle or confrontation the girl has about it in the room "at crunch time" is her problem?

    Well anyway I do understand the part about, as TConor added, "With a 2 k extra charge. " Is that from first-hand personal experience, TConor? I assumed there would be an extra charge for it.

    I want girls who agree upfront to BBFS+CIP even in writing to make more money. I want their co-workers to know they are making more money. And an extra charge for it helps to confirm that it means what we think it means and not something else. However, if there is a mention of how much the extra charge for that is on all their profiles or elsewhere on the website I guess I missed it.

  3. #54705
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    The girls are here today and gone tomorrow and if they are here they have a different name. This constant "where is she" serves no purpose.
    Just wanted to say that there is an ample (if minor) history of such inquiries yielding relevant information, so I thought it was worth posting, albeit without any expectations. Indeed, the very discussion I was responding to pertained to girls who had moved from that very MP to another. In my view, more information (and potentially futile requests for such) is better than none.

    Cheers.

  4. #54704
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin3124  [View Original Post]
    Have a look at the description for Haru under "Girls Working Today" here https://smilebangkak.com/girls/.

    It says "Can do no condom+special".
    And Nami's profile page there says "Release semen into the body".

    What the?

    https://smilebangkak.com/nami/

    While Haru's profile page doesn't repeat the mention of no condom, just "Extreme Sex".

    https://smilebangkak.com/haru/

  5. #54703

    True

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    True or not at crunch time, at least it is a refreshing improvement on the Thai P4P scene to date!

    Thanks much.
    With a 2 k extra charge.

  6. #54702
    Quote Originally Posted by Skepti10  [View Original Post]
    Very interesting report and perspective from South Asian bros. I like that you included the exact amount you spent and I like to do the same. However IMO the fact you push for such steep discount is one of the reasons why South Asians are "looked down" on by the girls and potentially other guys at the establishments. 3000 b is a normal price to be quoted in thermae and girls refusing to go below this amount isn't an indication they're not interested, but it's just their price. They would likely have the same requirements for white or east Asians too. But it seems you were quite happy with the selection of girls you had in thermae so well done and glad you had a good time!
    Pointing out the not so obvious.

    This 1,500 price isn't negotiating per SE. Highly likely they are not that desirable.

    The only customers they get come in at Closing and don't give a BLEELP about how they Look. For them they get to tell Thier Billion East Asian pals they got a 50 % discount.

  7. #54701

    I Refute

    Sorry mate, I tend to disagree with you on the Thermae view point or Thai Chicks behaviour towards people of a particular country. This is my 3rd trip in 9 months, twice for work and once for total pleasure. So, I know what I am talking about with being on the ground and experiencing it myself. Firstly, allow me to share that it is the brown skinned people that they are wary off as some of them are but not all, not particularly Indians. I have been coming to Thailand since more than 12 years and never ever faced any kind of racisms during all my pleasure and business trips. Allow me to clarify that I am right now in Bangkok typing this report and I am an proud Indian. Yes, I have twice gone to Thermae Bar on 13th and 15th August night. Never did I felt discriminated or ignored or not preferred or given a cold treatment by chicks or they did not wish to go. I am not challenging your view point or your financial strategy of countering a chick with a 50% discount on her ask, its your wallet and decision. That is one reason if I may be allowed to pin point one reason for those chicks to respectful say no to a guys as they hold a viewpoint as the next brown skin man will offer her the same. These chicks have seen it all and understand it better than men.

    My report of my 3 night Bangkok trip will be uploaded in a day or two as I am leaving for Pattaya for 7 nights where no business and all pleasure awaits me. Bangkok it was vice versa.

    And yes, my report will be long enough. All brown skin people reading my report do not get discouraged and visit Thailand. It is a beautiful country with smiling people and follow the basic atticates and manners that are expected of any tourist be it of any country. That is the norm for all of us in our daily lives, isn't it guys?

    All of these are my personal viewpoints.

    Regards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadaklaunda  [View Original Post]
    Disclaimer: This post doesn't mean to offend anyone of caste, creed, colour or religion. It is based on my personal experience and observations as an Indian tourist mongering in Bangkok. Sent from phone: please excuse, brevity and any typos.

    So I have been long wanting to travel to Bangkok from India for obvious reasons and made full use of this forum to find best massage parlours, go-go bars and of course the most suited accommodation. I am returning today as I type this post and here's what I learnt that maybe more relevant and useful for fellow Indians and Bangladeshis whom I saw in good numbers.

  8. #54700
    Quote Originally Posted by Kadaklaunda  [View Original Post]
    I called her and ordered a drink for her. She must have sat with me for 2 minutes but the next two items were her's so she had to rush to change clothes. I was vocal about this to the waitress and Mamasan but they kept saying she will be back soon.
    Always good to learn the ins and outs of each gogo bar when you go. They're not always the same. Some gogo brs let the girls come off stage right away if you order them a drink, some allow the girls to come down on 2nd song. Some bars don't allow the girls off at all so if you see a girl on stage you like you may have to wait 15 minutes til she actually sits with you. This is complicated further by whether the girl you bought a drink for is a money maker for the bar. Girls who get lots of drinks will be allowed down immediately.

    In your case, if you expect 15 minutes with the girl, clarify that with the girl before you buy her a drink and make sure she isn't on stage soon. Also clarify if you need her to DFK, lap dance, mutual groping, etc for that drink.

  9. #54699
    Quote Originally Posted by Kadaklaunda  [View Original Post]
    Day 1,2,3- Decoding Thermae Bar.

    Ok, so here are some observations and tips not limited to Thermae but overall 'boom boom' scene in Bangkok.

    1) Indians and Bangladeshis and others of darker skin colour are not preferred by Thai girls / ladies. In short, we are not their first choice. The reason I felt is because the way Indian bald uncle's with their round tummies, bermudas and chappals walk in and treat the girls is not appreciated. The young Indian muscular dudes with their beards and buffed up bodies could be desirable in India but the girls here call us 'King-Kong' and reject us outright.

    2) What do I do- Dress properly (decent Hawaiians shirts, nice pair of trousers+ shoes and blend in, keep a clean shave and always keep my smile on and hands folded to greet them whenever I pass them or look at them.

    2) Thermae Bar has 4 categories of girls- 'A+' category which comes in the bar at 7. 30-8 pm and disappears in no time. 'A' type girls who are eventually taken by mostly Japanese, Koreans and finally Westeners and they are confident that they will find takers. Now the 'be' type girls is what I am interested in. They could be slightly old (age group of 30-35), decent looking but certainly not bombshells or are desperate for money because they just need it. So the trick is to reach Thermae around 11.30 pm, buy a drink (I usually take Pineapple juice for 80 baht) and then take a round to find your prey- The 'be' type girls and then take a convinent spot and wait till 12 to see what happens. The bar shuts at 1 am and all the leftover girls at that time are now in a hurry to find customers and make their effort productive. That's when you start polite conversation by asking their name. Tell them you are here for these many number of days and are staying upstairs in the same hotel (4 nights in my case). The going rate for all girls is 3000 baht at the moment but when you mention that you sare staying in the same hotel they quote 2500 baht. Here's when I tell them I can only offer 1500 baht for short time (one shot and 40 minutes). I have managed to get three different girls on 3 nights so far.

    First lady- Miss Lucky who was 35 years old and slightly plump was quite fun. She did a booty dance for me, we bathed together, I went down on her and sex was good in different positions.

    Second girl was average looking and young and felt like she needed money. She approached me and we cut the same deal. I went down on her, she came and sex was decent.

    Third lady Miss Pia was about 32 years, very fair and great body. She went down on me and we actually came together while having sex. No kidding! The orgasm looked real unless she is super good at faking it. Same deal.

    With all the above three girls / ladies, I offered them water, toffees and chocolates that I had and also gave them extra Japanese condoms- Okamoto that I got from India and are not that expensive. But all these things made them happy and receptive.

    So in conclusion, Thai girls are drawn to Japanese and Koreans (from all age groups but more to young guys whom I saw in plenty) at Thermae. They are comfortable with them maybe for their fair colour and looks, trendy styles, better manners and the fact that they don't haggle (which in my view is stupid and is making the girls greedy). There were instances when I approached an 'A' category despite them showing no interest in me (as in refusing to look in my eye for more than few seconds, or smile or they would simply look away) but when they would refuse any offer below 3000 baht that's an indication for you that they are just not interested. And I think that's fair and no offence taken!

    Sorry the post is longish but hope you find it useful!
    Very interesting report and perspective from South Asian bros. I like that you included the exact amount you spent and I like to do the same. However IMO the fact you push for such steep discount is one of the reasons why South Asians are "looked down" on by the girls and potentially other guys at the establishments. 3000 b is a normal price to be quoted in thermae and girls refusing to go below this amount isn't an indication they're not interested, but it's just their price. They would likely have the same requirements for white or east Asians too. But it seems you were quite happy with the selection of girls you had in thermae so well done and glad you had a good time!

  10. #54698

    Observations and tips for fellow Indians-3

    Flight got delayed and postponed due to a massive typhoon approaching from Japan side. Since I got the message in time got a golden opportunity to enjoy Bangkok for some more time. This time I was very focused and wanted to do an African girl. Just to strike it off my wishlist. Saw many at Soi Cowboy (group of 5) and then many more (atleast 15) near Nana Plaza in small groups of 4-5. None were attractive or close to decent but then found one named 'Jamira'. She was bigger than most petitte girls and had a great skin texture and shiny face. Even African girls / ladies show no interest in Indians could be because they look down upon us or maybe they also had bad experience due to Indian bald uncle's. Anyways, I found her standing in one corner and spoke to her. She agreed for 1000 baht and room charges which was additional 250 baht. I went down on her for 30 minutes and she kept requesting me to continue as she was surprisingly always there. After doing all the efforts she finally came and then let me fuck her. It was ok but worth the money I paid and the fantasy I had to bang an African chick.

    Since I had some more time in hand I went to Spankey's again but this time it wasn't a good experience. There was a lady named 'don't' who was a phenomenal dancer, had a great body and curvy boobs. Before me an American bought her a drink and she danced in his lap and let him feel her for 15 minutes. I don't why but the American eventually left and the crowd was thinning out. So I called her and ordered a drink for her. She must have sat with me for 2 minutes but the next two items were her's so she had to rush to change clothes. I was vocal about this to the waitress and Mamasan but they kept saying she will be back soon. But then I realised that she is also doing the 'bathing act' and the waitress kept pushing me to buy more drink which I didn't want to. I told them it was absolutely unfair but the Mamasan only said sorry to me. Some win's and some looses is what I thought at that moment and paid the full bill and left. As I was leaving 'don't' was looking pretty disappointed and was trying to continue with that soapy act. I pointed at waitress indicating she is asking me to leave and bid her bye with folded hands.

    Until next time. Ciao!

  11. #54697

    Excellent!

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin3124  [View Original Post]
    Have a look at the description for Haru under "Girls Working Today" here https://smilebangkak.com/girls/.

    It says "Can do no condom+special".
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorAk  [View Original Post]
    True or not at crunch time, at least it is a refreshing improvement on the Thai P4P scene to date!

    Thanks much.

  12. #54696

    Observations and tips for fellow Indians- Part 2

    Forgot to mention that I also tried Ivy from Pretty Massage Thonglor. Paid 2500 baht for 90 minutes session. She did a lot of talking and once we had sex and once she gave me a handjob. Rooms were not up to the mark and there were mosquitoes inside. Girl was pretty, service was good and she tried but wrapped in in about 75 minutes. I also feared for getting dengi from the mosquito bite and left. Overall it was an ok experience.

  13. #54695

    Another

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    ...However, I have not yet seen any Thai P4 P venue openly advertise the availability of Bareback Sex, as in BBFS or BBFS+CIP, as Newton York mentioned. Has anyone else?

    I would be very impressed to find some that do because that would be a Game Changing Evolutionary Advancement in the Thai P4 P scene similar to the sudden appearance of that giant black monolith in 2001: A Space Odyssey. LOL.

    Cue the low, opening strains of "Thus Sprach Zarathustra"!
    https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/e...-r-page-e.html
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  14. #54694

    Observations and tips for fellow India brothers

    Disclaimer: This post doesn't mean to offend anyone of caste, creed, colour or religion. It is based on my personal experience and observations as an Indian tourist mongering in Bangkok. Sent from phone: please excuse, brevity and any typos.

    So I have been long wanting to travel to Bangkok from India for obvious reasons and made full use of this forum to find best massage parlours, go-go bars and of course the most suited accommodation. I am returning today as I type this post and here's what I learnt that maybe more relevant and useful for fellow Indians and Bangladeshis whom I saw in good numbers.

    My Stay: After doing a thorough research I booked my stay in Ruamchitt Plaza hotel which is close to Asoke (Soi Cowboy) and Nana Plaza famous for bars like Spankey's where girls dance topless showing attractive breasts. Positives of Ruamchitt was that the hotel was clean and I only paid 5000 baht for 4 nights including breakfast. Of course the famous Thermae bar is sitting right at the bottom of the hotel. To add, hotel is close to Terminal 21 if one needs to shop and to many eateries where one can find all kinds of food including Indian options. There is a currency exchange counter right at the entrance of the hotel offering best exchange rate on dollar (35.13 baht) when I left.

    Day 1: I reach the hotel by 6.30 in the evening though my Indigo flight landed Suvarnabhumi around 4. 30 pm. I had applied for E-Visa on Arrival so that was time saving. I had made bookings for KK at Wonder Massage when my flight was taking off from India. Earlier, I also tried to book Pam from Doki Doki, Kitty from Bunny Massage and Alice from Momo massage but heard from their managers that these girls were away. Coordination and booking with Wonder Massage happened over line app and it was a breeze.

    So finally, there I am at Wonder Massage (8 minutes walk from my hotel) and I greet KK who is dark and attractive with amazing natural figure and big curvy boobs with perfect pointy nipples (kind I like). I booked Nuru Massage for 3000 baht for 60 minutes but the Jacuzzi was not worth it. The boob rub on the back felt nice but I should have taken a standard room just to enjoy this girl and that would have saved 500-700 baht for me. Sex was amazing because I was instantly attracted to her and I kind of eased her into a conversation as suggested by a fellow monger which opened the communication doors for us. She speaks broken English but it's much better than many Thai girls and she can be very chatty once you start asking her questions. But make sure to strike the right balance because she herself said she is a lazy person and at times she would stop massaging and only chitchat. Her massage wasn't great but f**ing her was. So that should be your sole aim.

    After a long journey and having a good time I thought I will crash but I was amazed with my own stamina and will to explore so next I walked to Nana Plaza. I had heard about the girls dancing topless in Spankey's so I only entered there though there were options like Billboard and Butterfly. Got a drink for 200 baht and liked one of the dancing girls. So asked the waitress to call her and sit in the last row corner seat. Spankey's is a small bar and the there's lot of action happening on the dance floor. Most men sit in the front to watch girls up close but when you buy a drink for a girl and sit in corner seat of back row that's when you can feel the girl and enjoy the moment- both on the floor and in the lap or next to you. Luckily, my girl was tired after dancing, and she took this as break. She took 30 minutes to finish her drink so even though the waitress wasn't happy I kept pushing her back saying the drink is still not finished. The girl probably thought I will barfine but I had no intentions of spending 4000 baht on that. So, after having a great time with her I left Spankey's after 50 minutes. Yes folks! In just 400 baht I had the privilege to enjoy the naked dance and the girl which was totally worth it.

    Bangkok is extremely humid and sultry, so I thought I am done for the day! Oh, but wait! When I reached my hotel, I was extremely curious to check out the Thermae bar. It was already 11.30 pm by then. I picked up a lady, but I will talk about it in details later.

    Day 2: I was curious to know about sandwich nuru massage and I booked Nana and Wawa at Ola Ola massage at 10.30 am. It was 10 minutes walk from my hotel. My first preference were Patty and Whisky but both were away hence Nana and Wawa. I chose a 90 minutes nuru massage package which was a big home (6000 baht for 4 shots) in my pocket. I negotiated but there were no discounts and I was only offered Jacuzzi as extra complimentary which otherwise was priced 500 baht extra. Very clever! Anyways Nana was young and had a great body and boobs. Wawa looked much older than the photograph that was shown but they tried their best to please me. Again the boobs felt nice on my back and they had a nuru mat and then a Jacuzzi. I enjoyed the whole experience but it was nothing close to one watches in porn. So best is to avoid it and save money! The two girls tried talking to me and were not chitchatting between themselves which was my fear. I had sex with both of them for which I had to change condoms. First with Wawa but she was slightly old and had put on weight. So preferred to have sex with Nana and cum. The session ended with 2nd shot being a handjob from Wawa as Nana licked my ears and I played with her nipples.

    After the morning experience I slept for some time, went to Bacarra at Soi Cowboy and got a drink. But these places are very different from Nana and I walked out after 20 minutes as girls were only interested in Japanese and Korean men.

    At night, went to Thermar again and picked up a girl. Details later.

    Day 3: Was bored of usual stuff so went to Analisa massage in the afternoon. Booked Luna for a 60 minutes of Tantric massage which was a mix of sensual massage, massaging my balls and dick, prostate massage and BJ and HJ. It costed my 2100 baht. Luna was extremely proficient in her communication and spoke good English. She didn't indugle I'm any conversation from her side though but patiently answered all my questions- a trick that I usually use to be friendly with girls. She's been with the establishment for 5 years and is extremely good with the massage. I paid for that I enjoyed it to the max. But Prostate Massage where she puts a finger inside your butthole and strokes your dick with another hand is not my kind of thing. Better to avoid it! But after 60 minutes of stroking my dick and balls, BJ (only with condom atleast in this place) and finally HJ l, I came like how! Great experience!

    Day 1,2,3- Decoding Thermae Bar.

    Ok, so here are some observations and tips not limited to Thermae but overall 'boom boom' scene in Bangkok.

    1) Indians and Bangladeshis and others of darker skin colour are not preferred by Thai girls / ladies. In short, we are not their first choice. The reason I felt is because the way Indian bald uncle's with their round tummies, bermudas and chappals walk in and treat the girls is not appreciated. The young Indian muscular dudes with their beards and buffed up bodies could be desirable in India but the girls here call us 'King-Kong' and reject us outright.

    2) What do I do- Dress properly (decent Hawaiians shirts, nice pair of trousers+ shoes and blend in, keep a clean shave and always keep my smile on and hands folded to greet them whenever I pass them or look at them.

    2) Thermae Bar has 4 categories of girls- 'A+' category which comes in the bar at 7. 30-8 pm and disappears in no time. 'A' type girls who are eventually taken by mostly Japanese, Koreans and finally Westeners and they are confident that they will find takers. Now the 'be' type girls is what I am interested in. They could be slightly old (age group of 30-35), decent looking but certainly not bombshells or are desperate for money because they just need it. So the trick is to reach Thermae around 11.30 pm, buy a drink (I usually take Pineapple juice for 80 baht) and then take a round to find your prey- The 'be' type girls and then take a convinent spot and wait till 12 to see what happens. The bar shuts at 1 am and all the leftover girls at that time are now in a hurry to find customers and make their effort productive. That's when you start polite conversation by asking their name. Tell them you are here for these many number of days and are staying upstairs in the same hotel (4 nights in my case). The going rate for all girls is 3000 baht at the moment but when you mention that you sare staying in the same hotel they quote 2500 baht. Here's when I tell them I can only offer 1500 baht for short time (one shot and 40 minutes). I have managed to get three different girls on 3 nights so far.

    First lady- Miss Lucky who was 35 years old and slightly plump was quite fun. She did a booty dance for me, we bathed together, I went down on her and sex was good in different positions.

    Second girl was average looking and young and felt like she needed money. She approached me and we cut the same deal. I went down on her, she came and sex was decent.

    Third lady Miss Pia was about 32 years, very fair and great body. She went down on me and we actually came together while having sex. No kidding! The orgasm looked real unless she is super good at faking it. Same deal.

    With all the above three girls / ladies, I offered them water, toffees and chocolates that I had and also gave them extra Japanese condoms- Okamoto that I got from India and are not that expensive. But all these things made them happy and receptive.

    So in conclusion, Thai girls are drawn to Japanese and Koreans (from all age groups but more to young guys whom I saw in plenty) at Thermae. They are comfortable with them maybe for their fair colour and looks, trendy styles, better manners and the fact that they don't haggle (which in my view is stupid and is making the girls greedy). There were instances when I approached an 'A' category despite them showing no interest in me (as in refusing to look in my eye for more than few seconds, or smile or they would simply look away) but when they would refuse any offer below 3000 baht that's an indication for you that they are just not interested. And I think that's fair and no offence taken!

    Sorry the post is longish but hope you find it useful!

  15. #54693
    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaGoku  [View Original Post]
    Do girls working as Independents and massage parlors get regularly tested for STD like HIV and all?
    Shop requires them to, but as everything in Thailand, many girls purchase the result without doing the tests.

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