Seeking Arrangements

[AmericanPi]

I agree with prior poster. Your reports are great.

Can I give one piece of advice? Start earlier. Your dates starting at 10 or midnight don't leave much time for repeat bangs and also to course correct if needed. If things go badly and you end at 1 am the night is done. If you start with dinner at 7 or 8, and you choose your hotel location right, you usually have your dick in her mouth by about 10. Then you're set up for a long night worth the investment.

Also good to hear you're doing 300 in Madrid. When I was there I was offering 500. Didn't know I could do 3.

[Mono Sin Luz]

I've used this very successfully in the past. Also did a 5,4,3. Like 500 first night and 400 second and 300 third and subsequent. This is a real home run. Recommend.

This is great advice. I'll see if I can use it with one of the spinners here in TX.

[SeekingHead]

Obviously you are trying to pay least possible and they are going for max dollars. Let's say offer 300 and she says 400 is as low as she can go. Rather than saying ok say. That would be fine for the first date but if we repeat I need something more manageable like 300. So let's make the first date 400 and if we really like each other we can do 300 after that.

This works really well. She gets her 400 if you are a one hit wonder. And you get your 300 if you hit it off and this is a boatload of cash over time. I've used this very successfully in the past. Also did a 5,4,3. Like 500 first night and 400 second and 300 third and subsequent. This is a real home run. Recommend.

Dude, that's my to go to formula for the US. It gives the girls a bit of comfort in knowing that if you do a hit & run they got more money, but if you come back then they know you'll see them multiple times.

[SeekingHead]

Europe it's mostly 300 EUR. There are some platinum pussies that ask 500/700 but usually they are transactional and ignore them not for the money but for the attitude. Attitude matters to me. I want a friendly, GF like girl on my bed. The kind who wouldn't mind walking naked to my kitchen and get me a drink (my kitchen) in between sessions.

I have had a couple models in Malaga for 300 EUR.

Awesome, that's where I'm thinking of cashing in at, the idea of life in a villa with a sea view is the dream at the end of 40 years of hard fucking work. Knowing I'll also be able to have a steady stable of SB's & great golf is about all I can ask for anymore in life.

Ideally I'd like to find a solid 9 girl who would be cool with trips & I could see a couple of times a week. I've had 3 different girls I did monthly arrangements with for $1200 US & I saw them 6 times a month so that's what I'd look for, I'd send them the money on the 1st day of the month all where mid 20's spinners.

[Intelligencium]

Steve,

Thanks! Your reports are the gold standard in reports! Mine ended up being fun because the story was funny!! Haha. Thanks for the tips. Music was the mood enhancer that I used later on, but it was much easier with other girls since they all knew the drill. This girl was a newbie (clearly), so it ended up being so awkward.

-Ravi.

P.S. : Does anyone know how to change their userid here? I picked this one long back before knowing I will contribute to the forum.

I think I write some ripping fun reports but ima going to nominate Part 3 below for one of the most fun ever. I LOVE the part where your girl says she's got to go and does. And then you clarify she gets the money for sex and she comes back. I fucking died reading that. What a great report. And love that you are learning the ropes and getting better.

Some suggestions for gettting the party started in the room tho sounds like you are getting the hang!

Have a bottle of rose or sweet white on ice.

Pour a couple drinks and either. Go look at the view together. It's very intimate and you will be close and face to face. Or put on some music and just engage in some sway dancing. You will be making out in no time.

Keep up the good work! And don't hesitate to repeat Madrid. There will be another four hot brand new girls standing in line. The supply there is endless. Trust me.

[Steve 9696]

Obviously you are trying to pay least possible and they are going for max dollars. Let's say offer 300 and she says 400 is as low as she can go. Rather than saying ok say. That would be fine for the first date but if we repeat I need something more manageable like 300. So let's make the first date 400 and if we really like each other we can do 300 after that.

This works really well. She gets her 400 if you are a one hit wonder. And you get your 300 if you hit it off and this is a boatload of cash over time. I've used this very successfully in the past. Also did a 5,4,3. Like 500 first night and 400 second and 300 third and subsequent. This is a real home run. Recommend.

[Mono Sin Luz]

US is all about platinum pussies.

Not sure if the term is literal or has some other meaning, but in general I find US pussy in SA to be fine, but not spectacular compared with other locations.

The really smoking hot, petite, spinner like kind all will charge a fortune I guess, so more often than not not worth if you can travel IMO.

[Gfefan]

US is all about platinum pussies.

I'm heading to Medellin next week. I've been there before but had never used SA there.

I am already in contact with a bunch of really hot chicks. If I'm able to dril 10% of them I'll be set for life, LOL.

I'm not looking for pros, and I have had really cool SBs in the past in there places, but that was before the pandemic, so it's been a while.

The question I have is, what's a reasonable amount $ to offer in Medelland for a 20 yo hottie?

I have been reading here of folks with ranges from 250-400 EUR for Wester Europe and I was just today quoted $500 by a 25 yo in TX.

So for Medellin, would $100 be good? $150? Any recent experience, please share.

[Gfefan]

Europe it's mostly 300 EUR. There are some platinum pussies that ask 500/700 but usually they are transactional and ignore them not for the money but for the attitude. Attitude matters to me. I want a friendly, GF like girl on my bed. The kind who wouldn't mind walking naked to my kitchen and get me a drink (my kitchen) in between sessions.

I have had a couple models in Malaga for 300 EUR.

It's the main sugar baby sight in the US & Around the world.

I have done good lately with sugar daddy meets as well, been back in the states 2 weeks & have hit 4 women between $250-350 off the site.

What is pricing like in Europe?, I'm very seriously thinking about retiring in Southern Spain & will want to have 1 main SB who I see a few times a month.

[Steve 9696]

I think I write some ripping fun reports but ima going to nominate Part 3 below for one of the most fun ever. I LOVE the part where your girl says she's got to go and does. And then you clarify she gets the money for sex and she comes back. I fucking died reading that. What a great report. And love that you are learning the ropes and getting better.

Some suggestions for gettting the party started in the room tho sounds like you are getting the hang!

Have a bottle of rose or sweet white on ice.

Pour a couple drinks and either. Go look at the view together. It's very intimate and you will be close and face to face. Or put on some music and just engage in some sway dancing. You will be making out in no time.

Keep up the good work! And don't hesitate to repeat Madrid. There will be another four hot brand new girls standing in line. The supply there is endless. Trust me.

[Mono Sin Luz]

Check the Colombian board for fresh pricing, but with the COP at 4100 the exchange rate is in our favor. $80-$150 is normal for SA girls in Colombia outside of Cartagena.

Thanks, actually I was recently quoted 500 K COP by a hottie, so that's in accordance to what I was thinking and in range to what you said as well. So I will be using that as a starting negotiation. I may go a bit higher if she's just smoking hot. Anyway, thanks again.

As for the US, counter the girl as $500 is high in Atlanta. $400 is what spinners are getting here, I hit a 29 year old Latina MILF last night for $250, a very GFE as I nutted 2 x in her.

Yeah, I have the feeling that I could have offer a bit less, and also that she would have been a potential good time. However, with this coming trip to Medellin, just thinking on what I can do with $500 makes me pause.

[SeekingHead]

I'm heading to Medellin next week. I've been there before but had never used SA there.

I am already in contact with a bunch of really hot chicks. If I'm able to dril 10% of them I'll be set for life, LOL.

I'm not looking for pros, and I have had really cool SBs in the past in there places, but that was before the pandemic, so it's been a while.

The question I have is, what's a reasonable amount $ to offer in Medelland for a 20 yo hottie?

I have been reading here of folks with ranges from 250-400 EUR for Wester Europe and I was just today quoted $500 by a 25 yo in TX.

So for Medellin, would $100 be good? $150? Any recent experience, please share.

Check the Colombian board for fresh pricing, but with the COP at 4100 the exchange rate is in our favor. $80-$150 is normal for SA girls in Colombia outside of Cartagena.

As for the US, counter the girl as $500 is high in Atlanta. $400 is what spinners are getting here, I hit a 29 year old Latina MILF last night for $250, a very GFE as I nutted 2 x in her.

[Intelligencium]

This is Part 3 of my "Dating Tour" story.

Part 1 here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2842652.

Part 2 here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844638.

My flight from US landed in Frankfurt and I decided to stay 1 night there to experience a FKK sauna club for the first time. As I said in Part 1, it was OK. It can be cheaper than SA if your goal is to fuck multiple girls in a few hours, but there is no "girlfriend experience" and I hate the upselling.

After Frankfurt, I decided to fly to Madrid the next day. My spreadsheet of potentials had 80% girls from Barcelona, but there were two hotties (think 9 or 10) that showed a lot of interest in me, so I decided to book a 3 night stay combining SA fun + tourism.

Day 1

Before reaching Madrid, I messaged all the Madrid potentials. The girl at the top of my list finally discussed money once I landed in Madrid. I knew she would be expensive, but I started the negotiation with a reasonable starting point of 300 Euros. Interestingly the next message I get from her is:

"Sorry dear, I don't think this is going to work out. I really enjoyed talking to you. Hope you meet some lovely girls here in Madrid. The city is full of them! Kisses".

I am in a bit of shock, but I prod her to tell me why. Apparently she only does long term sugar relationships, but was fine with a short term / PPM for me, but her rate is 1200 Euros per date. Shocked again, I curse the Gods and say bye to her. She was kind enough to send me a long list of "must visit" bars, pubs and restaurants, which I utilized in my later encounters. 10 minutes later I get a message from my #2 girl there. She is excited that I am finally here, but she is going abroad tomorrow for a month! At this point, I start to get worried if I made a huge mistake coming here and pre-paying for 3 nights hotel. Decided that in the worst case, I will do touristy things in the day and go to Vive in the night.

Somehow my #2 girl (let's call her Rachael) and I figure out a plan to meet. She will come to my hotel, meet me at the rooftop bar at 10 pm and we'll go from there. I told her my price (300) and she agreed. Yay, my first ever SA date. Nervous as hell, I get ready. Shave, take shower, wash every part of my body multiple times, put on the best clothes and meet her at 10 pm in the hotel lobby. She is stunning. Same as her pics, but cuter. Having never dated anyone of her caliber, I start to get worried again, but she does the standard spanish greeting (kisses on both cheeks) and my confidence is back. I know I need drinks to feel more comfortable, so I take her to the rooftop bar right away. At the bar, we drink, we talk, we flirt. She shows me pics and videos from her modeling career, which I didn't know about, so at this point I am blessing the Gods. Thank you for landing me a model on my first SA date.

At midnight the rooftop closes, so I suggest we take our drinks to my room. She says yes, so we head to my room. Room is a bit cramped (middle of Madrid), so I awkwardly sit on the bed while she sits on the chair. We talk more while finishing our drinks. I take off my shoes to get comfortable. We keep talking. 5,10,15 minutes pass by, and I am not sure how to proceed at this point. This is my first SA date, and to be honest, my first casual encounter of any kind. I don't know how to convert this nice, friendly chat to something more. So I suddenly change subject to relationships hoping to direct that to sex somehow. She tells me she has only had one boyfriend ever, and they broke up a few months go. I stupidly say "Oh, so I am going to be your 2nd guy ever", while laughing nervously. She smiles, continues talking. I move the subject to SA, apparently I am the first guy she is meeting from the site. I finally get up from bed to stand closer to her. She finally gets the hint, gets up from her chair and gives me a nice long kiss on the lips. And then says, "I think I should go". Fuck! What the actual fuck! I ask her, "are you sure? You don't want to do anything?" She says, "no, sorry I am not in the mood".

Dejected, I wear my shoes again, get her a cab and put some cab money in her purse. On the way to the room, I start researching how to get to Vive, when after a few minutes Rachael messages me "Hey, I thought it was going to 300 Euros". Hahahahahha. I am rolling on the floor laughing. This movie should be called "Noob meets noob". I message her that the "300 is only if the date includes intimacy but you said you were not in the mood", expecting her to reply back with some expletives. She instead messages "oh I didn't know. Do you want me to come back?" I am laughing hysterically at this point. I say, "Yes, if you want" .

Long story short, she asks the cab to turn around and comes back. I meet her in the lobby, take her back to the room. She washes up, takes off all her clothes and I see a goddess body in front of me. And we fuck. Everything is all natural and a solid 9/10 face, body, boobs and booty. Sex must have been good, because even after she left on her trip, she messaged me every day (sending pics, asking me if I will come back to Madrid). I don't remember much about the sex itself because frankly it was the first one on this trip of 30 fucks. I just remember that we were exhausted, and she wanted to stay back the night, but she had to leave because she had an early morning flight.

Day 2

Done with the two girls I was looking to meet in Madrid, I get desperate and start messaging girls left and right on SA. One of the girls I had chatted once from US replies and is ready to meet. I wanted to meet at night to explore the cocktail bars the 1200 Euro girl had recommended. She is sport and is ready to meet late at night (midnight) and continue till whenever. I spend the day roaming the city. At midnight we meet at the entrance to a fancy cocktail bar and I see a 5/10 in front of me. Her face is cute, but the body is thicker than I expected. Looking back, I realized that her pics on SA are from angles that flatter her body and never show the full body. I decide to keep going. I wanted to go to the bar and didn't mind having a company. We talk. She is cuban, a pianist and apparently going to Julliard in a month. And she turns out to be an interesting person overall. The first bar sucked, and she took me to a hole in the wall cocktail bar that made amazing and ingenious cocktails. Drunk, interested in her personality and no longer caring about her looks, I decide to continue. Take her to the room, she showers and then we fuck missionary. After a break, she starts giving me a massage, ending with my cock in her mouth. Little johnny is ready for round 2 and we fuck doggy this time. 300 Euros in her purse and off she goes, while I finally get to sleep at 5 am in the morning.

Day 3

Madrid was too hot for me, so I decide to skip tourism and focused on mongering. A hottie from SA that I had chatted with before replies, I tell her I want to meet in the afternoon and she agrees for 300 Euros. I don't know why I didn't learn my lesson, but when I meet her, I realize her pics on SA are from before she had put on some weight. She turned from a solid 8/10 to a 6/10 now. I dunno why, but I decide to continue. We drink at the rooftop, come back to my room and fuck. Little man gets to CIM for the first time in his life, so he is happy. When leaving, I tell her that she has put on quite a lot of weight, so I can't pay 300 anymore and we settle at 250.

At this point I am determined to find some hottie for the night. Day 2 girl is messaging to meet again, but I am not interested. I start sending messages to girls online on SA to propose a meet tonight. One hottie responds (lets call her Monica), we move to telegram and I ask to do a video call. She passes the check. Monica asks for 400, but I negotiate it down to 300 and we meet at another rooftop bar at 10 pm. She is a solid 8/10, Colombian with small, natural perky breasts, lovely face, luscious lips, big eyes and a nice ass. We talk about our life, I learn that she is a beautician and she reprimands me for not wearing enough sunscreen. Hah! Once the rooftop closes at midnight, we go to a bar with live music. We are quite tipsy at this point, and start flirting and making out in the bar. She is wearing a top with no bra, and I am full on caressing her breasts under her top making full use of the darkness in the bar. She is turned on and we take a cab to the hotel. In the room, she washes up, and then we fuck like bunnies. I usually cum soon, but maybe because I have had 5 fucks in 3 days already, I don't cum easily this time. Which means that we tried multiple positions for a long time and exhaust each other out. This is the best sex I have ever had in my life so far. I finally cum at her favorite position: downward dog. We are tired, but she has family at home so she leaves.

Day 4

I get up before noon and ask the hotel to extend my stay by one more night. I do some tourism in the day time, but at night I miss Monica. We exchange messages, she is ready to meet me again. We both like music, so we go to two different live music bars, talk, sing, flirt, drink a lot, come back to room and fuck like bunnies again. She LOVES downward dog, but this time I can't cum in that position. We try a few more, and I finally find my favorite: edge of the bed / catapult. This time we are done by 3 am, so I am happy I will get enough sleep before the flight tomorrow to Barcelona. I sleep knowing that I again had the best sex of my life and if things don't work out in Barcelona, I can come back to Madrid again and meet her.

[Mono Sin Luz]

I'm heading to Medellin next week. I've been there before but had never used SA there.

I am already in contact with a bunch of really hot chicks. If I'm able to dril 10% of them I'll be set for life, LOL.

I'm not looking for pros, and I have had really cool SBs in the past in there places, but that was before the pandemic, so it's been a while.

The question I have is, what's a reasonable amount $ to offer in Medellíand for a 20 yo hottie?

I have been reading here of folks with ranges from 250-400 EUR for Wester Europe and I was just today quoted $500 by a 25 yo in TX.

So for Medellin, would $100 be good? $150? Any recent experience, please share.

[SeekingHead]

But what is SA?

It's the main sugar baby sight in the US & Around the world.

I have done good lately with sugar daddy meets as well, been back in the states 2 weeks & have hit 4 women between $250-350 off the site.

What is pricing like in Europe?, I'm very seriously thinking about retiring in Southern Spain & will want to have 1 main SB who I see a few times a month.