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08-24-23 02:48 #4895
Posts: 65Originally Posted by SeekingHead [View Original Post]
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08-24-23 02:33 #4894
Posts: 65Originally Posted by Gfefan [View Original Post]
I just had a Brazilian quote me 1 k for a few hours. She's 37 years old, that same chick would cost me $50 in Brazil.
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08-23-23 23:50 #4893
Posts: 665You are better than I.
I've shared this before but one time a crazy ***** was so crazy and crying and volatile that I gave her 700 dollars to just leave. No sex. Just to leave. I was scared she was going to accuse me of something just from sheer craziness and as a married guy I can't be getting entwined in that stuff. Just gave her the money to buy my way out of it.
Originally Posted by Intelligencium [View Original Post]
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08-23-23 18:10 #4892
Posts: 67I wish I was posting these reports live. I could have used this advice so much. Unfortunately, my reports are a month+ old, so all I can do is learn from the mistakes and from the advice you all give.
So as you will see in my Part 5 report, you were right. I should have let Naz lead the way.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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08-23-23 17:56 #4891
Posts: 67It wasn't easy
Originally Posted by AmericanPi [View Original Post]
But I have dabbled in meditation and I decided to focus on my breathing and slow down the heart rate. In the worst case I would pay her and the money was not a major factor, but I thought let me think this through with a calm mind. Few things stood out:
1. She and her friend had hinted that they live with their parents. So she and her family would be dragged into this if she was really underage, and I don't think she would have risked all that for her friend getting stood up.
2. She used the underage tactic when nothing else worked, so clearly she was inventing stuff. And she didn't follow through on any of the other threats so far (going to hotel manager, coming with goons etc).
3. The telegram / whatsapp number I had was a burner e-sim. She also didn't have any of my face pics. She didn't know my real name. And although she may have remembered my room number, I doubted that.
I took a gamble. May be I should not have risked it and just paid her. But I get unreasonably annoyed at scam artists and decided to take a stance.
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08-23-23 17:02 #4890
Posts: 130Kudos!
Kudos Intelligencium!!
Thanks for the efforts to share your stories in such detail. It gives mongers like me some inspiration to dive in while learning to avoid the same mistake.
To all,
I am planning a trip to Madrid. Any suggestions on high end hotels centrally located for restaurant meetups and with a worthy rooftop bar?
Originally Posted by Intelligencium [View Original Post]
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08-23-23 15:58 #4889
Posts: 819Originally Posted by Intelligencium [View Original Post]
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08-23-23 15:31 #4888
Posts: 665Originally Posted by Intelligencium [View Original Post]
You're stronger than me. At that underage comment I'd have caved and paid. Good on you for your lucidity.
The way you go about your travels is so much like how I do my European trips. In fact Barcelona was just like that except without the drama and the threesome. Lots of cat and mouse, highs and lows, wins and losses.
Great story.
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08-23-23 09:32 #4887
Posts: 65Flaking
What's going on with the flakes on seeking? I have a bunch of girls that reached out to me agreed to meet me this summer, then when I arrive in their city or arrange their flights to come see me, they go ghost on me or leave me on read.
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08-23-23 06:53 #4886
Posts: 67Dating / Girlfriend Tour: Part 5 - the aftermath of my first threesome
Originally Posted by Intelligencium [View Original Post]
Part 1 (stats) is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2842652.
Part 2 (Prep) is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844638.
Part 3 (Madrid) is here (Steve's fav): http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2844961.
Part 4 (Barcelona. First half) is here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2845741.
Day 4 in Barcelona - the worst day of the tour
The Morning After
Some of you have correctly pointed out my mistakes. In my defense, this was my first threesome and I would say my biggest mistake was going into it without any prep. I should have googled "what to expect in your first threesome" or something along those lines before jumping into it. I tried asking Naz a couple of times but as I mentioned in the last post, she did not really offer anything concrete. So, I am a newbie to: casual sex, to seeking, to sugar relationships, to threesomes and almost a newbie to having a relationship/being with a girlfriend. And I was drunk and horny. Bad combination. I clearly am no Stud in this area. My only hope is that writing this down helps fellow mongers. Good luck!
So back to Barcelona and my state of mind then. I wake up late, text Naz to see how she is doing, and we decide to meet up for Brunch. I am frustrated at the situation, I don't understand what I did wrong and I hate that I am basically in a "relationship" on my so-called Dating / Sugar tour.
Also, at this point, I already owe her a good amount of money. Not just the sugar money / allowance, but money she spent on me for Uber Eats, buying tickets for some touristy things that somehow I couldn't buy etc. So I put the cash I owe her (allowance and the other stuff) in an envelope and take it to brunch. I also write a nice message on the envelope saying how much the time we spent together meant to me. We had discussed the allowance amount at some point yesterday (in the strip club of all places) and I had proposed an amount that she seemed happy about. But that amount (quite large) was assuming she would spend many more days with me.
At brunch, she tries to explain to me what behavior from me made her feel bad. Few things she called: a) I pinged girls for threesome before asking her, b) I made the first move on Laura, c) I fucked Laura without involving her and d) the stupid things I said. I start to understand, but I am still processing. We decided to give each other space for the time being. I tell her I owe her a lot of money, so I want to pay and put the envelope in her purse. She is pleasantly surprised and happy, especially since she is going through a bad time financially.
I spent the afternoon walking around Barcelona streets alone, enjoying the city. Found an erotic massage place nearby (Brahma massage) and got a session there (it was OK. I might have enjoyed it more if I had not experienced what I had experienced in the last 7 days or so. Haha).
Late afternoon, Naz and I are texting each other again. She thanks me again for the envelope and the message. But the situation doesn't seem to be improving. She can't seem to let go of what happened and how I made her feel. In my mind, I think she has developed feelings for me, and continuing this would be bad for both of us. So I gather some courage, and (like a coward) text her that we should be friends but I don't think we should have sex anymore. Few more back and forth texts happen, where she tries to convince me that it's not about sex (which I don't buy), we decide it is indeed best to break this off.
And that's the end of that story. Well, kinda. We still kept in touch over text as friends. Two days later, she gets sick and is hospitalized. I visited her in the hospital the next day, and a few more times until I left Barcelona. On the final day she cries when I am leaving. And we are still in touch as friends (and tease each other) even after I am back in the US (she is out of the hospital and doing well now). We talked about the incident a little and apart from the stupid things I did, she says she also over-reacted at that time.
Dear readers, I don't know if there is a moral to the story. Decide for yourself.
Day 4 night - WTF continues
After "breaking up" With Naz late afternoon, I attended some work meetings over VC from the hotel. Between meetings I restart my search for a post-Naz Barcelona dating tour. I ping Laura again (the threesome girl). She is happy to hear from me, but starts pushing for her "friend" Who lives closer to me. Proposes a threesome with her and her friend. But her friend is a bit chubby for my taste and I stay non-committal and explain to her that I would love to meet her instead. Turns out her friend is someone I was chatting with on SA / telegram (and she is much cuter / thinner in her pics SA) and the friend starts pinging me on telegram. Desperate for a plan, I decide to keep her as a fallback option and tell her that maybe we can meet at 10 pm after my meetings end. I am pinging other prospects on SA, and start getting some worthwhile leads.
At 9:45 pm, I get a ping from Laura's friend that she is outside the hotel! WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. (Readers, learn more lessons from my failures / travails). I tell her that she should have pinged me before leaving for my place, how did she know where to come and that I can't meet her. She gets upset and demands 100 euros as cab money. I scoff at her and say bye. And then start getting messages from Laura. She is upset that I stood her friend up, and now is threatening me with "consequences" unless I pay her friend 200. She says will come to the hotel and tell the manager what I have been doing in their hotel. I brush that off. She says she is coming there with 3 guys to teach me a lesson. I get a bit worried, being alone in a strange country and all, but decide to keep my cool. She says she will go to the police and tell them that I paid for sex. I laugh it off. Then she says she will tell the police how I fucked someone underage (her). FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. At this point I start to get worried. She says that she lied about her age and it would have been my responsibility to check her ID before sex. And that I need to pay her friend 200 bucks for all the stress I caused her.
I am a bit scared at this point, but I take a deep breath and try to put two and two together. Clearly she is lying, because she tried many different ways to intimidate me and when nothing worked, she tried to intimidate me with this "underage" BS. I block her and her friend on telegram and SA, and decide to find someone else. And make a note: check the girls' ID next time if they look young!
Unfortunately, the night doesn't get any better. I finally get a date, a good 8/10, through SA and when we meet she turns out to be a 6/10. But she is interesting. Ukrainian and Polish mix, lived in Germany, Switzerland and Netherlands. Was a ballet dancer for 10 years, but broke her ankle badly, and since then tried a couple of professions (including being a stripper) and now works as a waitress in Barcelona.
After drinks and dinner, we decide to go to a strip club. She has a soft spot for strippers, so I am happy to indulge her. I pay the steep entrance fee (50 Euro per person), then a 60 Euro fee to get closer to the pole dance area. So far I have spent 150+ on her already. We are sitting at the strip club, enjoying the show and a hookah, when a stripper comes to chit-chat. She is not my type, so I politely decline her offers. But my date says we should go to the private room. Private room is 200 Euros, so I ask the stripper what happens there. She is vague, you know the usual, "oh honey, it's private, there will be champagne and we can have fun". I have seen this movie before, so I politely decline again. But my date is insistent. She really wants to do it. This time I firmly say No. I tell her I am happy to buy her a lap dance if she wants. But she likes this girl a lot and insists on going private. Keeps bugging me about it. About how I should really spend some money, about how I am being stingy etc. I am pissed. It's my money and she is not even asking for my opinion about the stripper. I tell her NO, and she says that she will go, and I say, please do. And she leaves.
Fuck her.
Fuck this day.
And Fuck this night.
I end the night with a lap dance from a girl who is my type and go to the hotel alone and end this fuckless day.
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08-23-23 00:21 #4885
Posts: 36Keep it up Gfefan
Gfefan, you have become de facto #2 after Steve on this forum Is there a place you haven't been LOL? LOVED reading your recent reports especially the sports star o e. Keep it up man. I've started to write some reports but unlike Steve I hate writing haha. Hope to post Madrid, Lisbon and one other destination reports soon.
Originally Posted by Gfefan [View Original Post]
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08-23-23 00:12 #4884
Posts: 422Not great but ok
Met one very expensive girl in Frankfurt. Awesome company, good sex but the most I've ever paid and probably wouldn't do it again. In fact wouldn't because I had the chance. Aside from that very little action and lots of time wasters. That said, I'm not Caucasian, not unattractive but probably not what most girls are thinking about when they sign up. Plus I'm not local. Discussion has been had before but I think most girls want something more long term than a guy on a short business trip unless they're really desperate for money or are attracted to you.
Met a girl in Nuremberg from Spain who just wanted to bang and leave, thank you very much.
Met a girl in Munich for dinner but nothing else but still chat occasionally so who knows later definitely doable.
Probably chatted up 6 others that all ended up being time wasters.
Originally Posted by AluHut [View Original Post]
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08-22-23 21:49 #4883
Posts: 129Originally Posted by Foolish [View Original Post]
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08-22-23 20:26 #4882
Posts: 819Originally Posted by Intelligencium [View Original Post]
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08-22-23 20:25 #4881
Posts: 249Decent
Germany is good depending on the city. While it is not like Madrid, I have found some keepers in Germany. The kind that refuses to take money but treats me like BF. There has also been some transactional high quotes in Frankfurt so, I did not go. So, bottom line. Wide spectrum but good collection.
Originally Posted by AluHut [View Original Post]