Angeles City

[WestCoast1]

Unfortunately, if you think you are paying a so-called going rate, then you are usually paying too much.

Concur. The issue is a tempest in a teacup. Even if you are paying too much, or alternately, less than expected / normal (whatever that might be), judge the success of the event in its outcome. If the price (or other factors, such as looks / attractiveness / youth) bother you, try Thailand or DR. You might end up feeling better about a different place, and further you leave the pina-puki to Mr E and myself.

[Mr Enternational]

Thank god I know the going rates, and will not pay more even if I can afford it.

Unfortunately, if you think you are paying a so-called going rate, then you are usually paying too much.

[Undakovabrotha]

Hey folks, anyone currently in Angeles. If why'all not tied up with a female hit me up grab front seats and watch what's out there when the rain stops.

[Undakovabrotha]

I am American myself, and agree that the weekend warriors from the USA or passport brothers are the worst in this regard (overpaying) and ruin the markets. Thank god I know the going rates, and will not pay more even if I can afford it.

Just be careful in Central and South America. I stopped hanging out in those places. If you try to haggle and they accept lower than market prices chances are you will be robbed. 9 out of 10, the hotel staff are in on it and there is nothing you can do about it. I find the Philippines is one of the safest areas to monger other than you own backyard (city). Where else can you barfine a female complain to bar staff if she doesn't stay the agreed upon time and quite possibly receive a refund? I've had that experience. Cuba, Jamaica, DR, and Nicaragua have been safe and cheep bets for me!

[Dg8787]

Agreed. Its all in perception. I usually pay 4 k or 5 k all night and 9 times out of 10 its usually GFE. Mostly bar girls or others, it varies. These are very cute girls in their early 20's,my preference. I've paid a bit more but not 10 k yet. But even so paying 10 k would not break the bank. If I tried that here in US with prostitutes or bar girl same age and quality, hey baby give you 10 k if your friendly and pat you on your bottom when you leave my room in the morning. First of all after she stop laughing she'd say get away from me you old creepy fuck before I call the police. Psyche?. I just think about home and why I'm here, its all relative to where you are.

I am in the 4-5 k range. There are times higher but not the norm. The equation is simple, make $$$ and spend pesos.

There are NaySayers and NoSexers that complain but they make pesos and spend pesos. Wrong equation.

Nothing like the value for your $$$ here.

[Locamotive]

Comparing Manila bars prices to Angeles is not a comparable market. Each are their own markets. Different markets and supply system.

Some will be happy to pay the new prices and some won't be happy to pay. I don't like the new prices but will adjust accordingly. End of the day it won't make any difference to my bank account. Just to my psyche. Sooner I get over it the better.

I don't have a response about the Koreans or Japanese as I don't know how they think.

I mainly rely on my Friends and Family program. So probably not much an effect on my pocketbook.

Agreed. Its all in perception. I usually pay 4 k or 5 k all night and 9 times out of 10 its usually GFE. Mostly bar girls or others, it varies. These are very cute girls in their early 20's,my preference. I've paid a bit more but not 10 k yet. But even so paying 10 k would not break the bank. If I tried that here in US with prostitutes or bar girl same age and quality, hey baby give you 10 k if your friendly and pat you on your bottom when you leave my room in the morning. First of all after she stop laughing she'd say get away from me you old creepy fuck before I call the police. Psyche?. I just think about home and why I'm here, its all relative to where you are.

[Dg8787]

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I spoke to hookers from bars in Manila the last two nights. They wwre quoting 10,000 PHP for a barfine and ladies drinks were a punch and the groin too. Koreans and Japanese would be happy to pay those prices if it kept others out but more fool them.

Comparing Manila bars prices to Angeles is not a comparable market. Each are their own markets. Different markets and supply system.

Some will be happy to pay the new prices and some won't be happy to pay. I don't like the new prices but will adjust accordingly. End of the day it won't make any difference to my bank account. Just to my psyche. Sooner I get over it the better.

I don't have a response about the Koreans or Japanese as I don't know how they think.

I mainly rely on my Friends and Family program. So probably not much an effect on my pocketbook.

[Dg8787]

I was just in AC and have been going for over 12 years now. What I can say is that there is no shortage of women to be found in the bars if you are not picky. Quality has not improved nor gone down pre Covid but is not as good as it was 5-12 years ago and never will be due to social media, and guys taking the best ones and converting them to sponsored girlfriends. Certain bars such as Atlantis, Dollhouse, Dragon Bar and others have declined in quality however where they dropped off other new bars have picked up the slack and existing ones like Champagne have improved their roster. The quality of gals to be found, IMO, is never more than a 7 at best. Maybe there is an occasional 8 but this is rare. It is what it is. I prefer to do my hunting elsewhere but if all else fails, I grab one from the bar.

About the same for me 10-12 years. One thing is certain, quality comes and goes from each bar. One day you have a beautiful line up in one bar and the mamasan pulls her whole team out to another bar the next day. LOL. I have seen this a few times.

Personally I think the overall quality has improved over the years. Of course this is highly subjective. Used to be mostly the country bumpkins in the bars with the highly skilled sharks working. Not much in between. The bumpkins always insisted on short time.

[Dg8787]

Correction; Barfines in WolfPack Bars are set by the color of the girl's wrist band;.

Black; 5000 p.

Green; 4000 p.

Yellow; 3000 p, mostly waitresses.

Image; Sexts of the day.

Confirmed by my friend.

Good intel SJ. Do you know the owner? Manager? Mama?

[StudBucket]

I think Americans would be more happy to pay that, than koreans.

American Mongers are the ones paying 150-200 $ for ST and adding tip to that all over south American e. G. Costa Rica.

Koreans are far away from that. Stop that koreans bashing shit, especially because guys from the US are the worst overpaying monger plaque on this planet.

Everyone knows what you are doing and paying in jaco, Medellin, sosua and so on.

I am American myself, and agree that the weekend warriors from the USA or passport brothers are the worst in this regard (overpaying) and ruin the markets. Thank god I know the going rates, and will not pay more even if I can afford it.

[StudBucket]

NaySayers will say Angeles is doomed. I will find out what girls take will be on the 5 k.

Some say the 5 k barfine might attract more 8. 5-9's to work there. Time will tell.

I was just in AC and have been going for over 12 years now. What I can say is that there is no shortage of women to be found in the bars if you are not picky. Quality has not improved nor gone down pre Covid but is not as good as it was 5-12 years ago and never will be due to social media, and guys taking the best ones and converting them to sponsored girlfriends. Certain bars such as Atlantis, Dollhouse, Dragon Bar and others have declined in quality however where they dropped off other new bars have picked up the slack and existing ones like Champagne have improved their roster. The quality of gals to be found, IMO, is never more than a 7 at best. Maybe there is an occasional 8 but this is rare. It is what it is. I prefer to do my hunting elsewhere but if all else fails, I grab one from the bar.

[WestCoast1]

Inflation after the pandemic. They are crazy to pay that much in Manila for working broads. Goto the internet dating sites, you will have better luck, much cheaper and the girls aren't used up!!

I spoke to hookers from bars in Manila the last two nights. They wwre quoting 10,000 PHP for a barfine and ladies drinks were a punch and the groin too. Koreans and Japanese would be happy to pay those prices if it kept others out but more fool them.

Which bars, Burgos? That's been standard payment for at least 8 years. Currently p3500 or 4000 is the barfine, the girl will negotiate with you in the bar her morning tip amount, 4 k-6 k is typical, and throw in buying a few drinks in the bar. You are at p9-11 k. Nothing has changed in this regard, except the barfine amount. Prior to Covid all Burgos barfines were p3900, now 3500 or 4 k (same price range). There's nothing unusual about paying $200-ish USD for Burgos gogo girls.

As UKB suggests, there are cheaper alternatives.

[Sailor Jack]

Sailor Jack has a weather report from the edge of the storm;.

The WolfPack Bars are setting barfines 09/04/2023 as follows;...

Correction; Barfines in WolfPack Bars are set by the color of the girl's wrist band;.

Black; 5000 p.

Green; 4000 p.

Yellow; 3000 p, mostly waitresses.

Image; Sexts of the day.

[Jarango]

American Mongers are the ones paying 150-200 $ for ST and adding tip to that all over south American e. G. Costa Rica.

Koreans are far away from that. Stop that koreans bashing shit, especially because guys from the US are the worst overpaying monger plaque on this planet..

I don't bash Koreans or Japanese and you should not imply I do. I have extensive experience f both cultures and they like to do their own thing in their own way. And they like to do it in groups, drinking over priced whiskey and so on. They would happily pay such outrageous prices for a rice farmer's daughter if it fitted their party plans. In LA Cafem, the women flock to them, literally like bees to honey, as they throw money around like drunken soldiers. Not all of them but enough of them.

Americans, on the other hand, fly God knows how many hours, many of them are of humble means and I doubt the others are sufficient in numbers to fit into such a business model. But then, I am not the target audience, either for that or Seeking Arrangements. I've watched interviews with top tier hos, well spoken etc but I found them empty and not worth top tier prices. That is just me. YMMV.

I don't know what the ling term business plan for Walking St is. Probably more gambling, more high rollers, lessJ arangos. All good things.

[Undakovabrotha]

I think the "sex" part of this transaction is actually worse as the price increases? And so does their list of rules and don'ts, that list is a turn off for me personally.

As the price goes up the sex somehow looses focus. It's almost like these girls are not hungry enough and they are not looking for a tip as their pay is adequate.

I agree. I don't even go there with the high priced. So what you can dance better! I don't know if it's me. I find the women in Cebu look better. Can someone give me their thoughts?