German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Mongerer88]

Just need to refer to my mongering days in the 1970's in NYC when mongering in America was the best in the world. Back then the majority of tutes were white; white hookers with black pimps were a huge thing back then. The pimps would loiter in the bus and train stations searching for young white girls heading to the city from the country all bright eyed and bushy tailed. My best mongering days.

For good or bad, it shows you how well the freelancing system has worked in the USA.

Give a hot, young girl of any skin color internet access, smartphone and Uber and watch her work her magic.

We have a hell of a lot of poverty in the USA, but you don't see hot, young women in homeless camps or in soup kitchens. Those are filled with men and ugly / fat women, usually older.

Build an FKK with the intention of ladies selling sex multiple times a day at lower prices and you won't get many applicants unless you allow women from south of the border to come and work at them.

There are some "trapped" hot, young USA Women who need to stay in impoverished areas due to family obligations who don't get to realize their full potential. But they wouldn't by definition be able to travel to remote FKKs and work at them for long periods of time.

There are plenty of struggling Americans. Hit, females are not among them, regardless of race. They are doing better than ever, hence the very high cost of commercial sex in the USA And the lack of a need to build a facility for them to work.

[Turgid]

Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. Yes, there are white SWs. But if there was a US FKK charging similarly low rates as they do in Germany, I contend it would be mostly girls from the poorer end of the socio-economic spectrum, which are usually non-whites in the US......

Just need to refer to my mongering days in the 1970's in NYC when mongering in America was the best in the world. Back then the majority of tutes were white; white hookers with black pimps were a huge thing back then. The pimps would loiter in the bus and train stations searching for young white girls heading to the city from the country all bright eyed and bushy tailed. My best mongering days.

[Abox79]

It's been well over a year since this FKK opened its doors. Any recent experiences from any one?

The place looks attractive and luxurious.

I'm wanting to try some place new and was wondering if the business and line up has picked up here.

Howie.

It was discussed a couple of months or so ago. Apparently they have trouble retaining good girls and a good number of girls due to the low numbers of guys visiting. Therein lies the the problem, no girls and no guys will visit. It's a shame because World has had its day unless there is a dramatic change.

[Howie]

It's been well over a year since this FKK opened its doors. Any recent experiences from any one?

The place looks attractive and luxurious.

I'm wanting to try some place new and was wondering if the business and line up has picked up here.

Howie.

[BobNSuzy]

I'm not sure how your point relates. There are also more Germans of any wealth level than Romanians, yet the Romanians still are still numerically dominant in the FKKs.

That is like comparing US poverty to Haitian poverty. If the US had FKK clubs with work visas maybe it would be filled with Haitians. That would make sense. I believe you were saying FKK clubs in the US would attract black sex workers because they are the ones who are poor in the US. My point is there is a larger pool of poor white people to pull from than poor black people. There are in fact illegal sex workers in the US. Some of it is gang related. That probably skews the numbers. If it wasn't illegal it would not be gang related. Many people argue that crime solely comes from poverty which is also political Koolaid.

[The Cane]

I'm not sure how your point relates. There are also more Germans of any wealth level than Romanians, yet the Romanians still are still numerically dominant in the FKKs.

You asserted that if the price for sex at an imaginary American FKK were the same as at a German FKK, then there wouldn't be any white girls working at said FKK since that pricing would only incent girls of color to work there because they would only be attractive to poorer, lower class girls, the majority of which you claim to be other than white. But as BobNSuzy noted, there are far, far more white people in the population who also make up a much larger part of the lower classes in terms of their sheer numbers. A larger percentage of non-white groups are poor, but in terms of sheer numbers there are more poor whites because there are far more white people in the population. So, with that being the case, then why wouldn't German-style pricing be just as attractive to all of those poor white girls too? What is it you're really trying to say? Whatever it is, it's probably best to just leave this topic alone.

[Jmioffe]

Sheer numbers would tell you that there are in total more poor whites than blacks. I am not sure if whites are still the majority but blacks are still a minority. The poorest locations in the US are predominantly white. You can fact check me on that but I am still making a relevant point. In total there are more poor whites than blacks.

I'm not sure how your point relates. There are also more Germans of any wealth level than Romanians, yet the Romanians still are still numerically dominant in the FKKs.

[BobNSuzy]

Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. Yes, there are white SWs. But if there was a US FKK charging similarly low rates as they do in Germany, I contend it would be mostly girls from the poorer end of the socio-economic spectrum, which are usually non-whites in the US. Just like how in Germany, there are definitely German SWs.

But German SWs, they're not considered low class in the same way Romanians are there. There definitely are German girls in an FKK, but they're exceptions. Most German SWs are commanding more money on the escort market.

I think the dynamic would be similar in the US, but less on nationality lines and more on racial lines. As it stands, in the US P4 P market, white girls command a higher price than black girls. Just look at tryst. Link or craiglist -- the lower you go in price, the darker the provider generally. This is not to make a judgment on the inherent worth of people -- just an observation that the financial efficiency of an FKK is based on class, and class works more along racial lines in the US, and on national lines in Europe.

I think you have drank someone's political KoolAid. There are plenty of poor white oeople in the US. Sheer numbers would tell you that there are in total more poor whites than blacks. I am not sure if whites are still the majority but blacks are still a minority. The poorest locations in the US are predominantly white. You can fact check me on that but I am still making a relevant point. In total there are more poor whites than blacks. If you listen to someone like Thomas Sowell, he will tell you black people learned to be poor from poor white people. My point will be totally missed by most because most people are bad with numbers (statistics) and most people are not interested in facts only agendas.

[The Cane]

Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. Yes, there are white SWs. But if there was a US FKK charging similarly low rates as they do in Germany, I contend it would be mostly girls from the poorer end of the socio-economic spectrum, which are usually non-whites in the US. Just like how in Germany, there are definitely German SWs. I think the dynamic would be similar in the US, but less on nationality lines and more on racial lines. As it stands, in the US P4 P market, white girls command a higher price than black girls. Just look at tryst. Link or craiglist -- the lower you go in price, the darker the provider generally. This is not to make a judgment on the inherent worth of people -- just an observation that the financial efficiency of an FKK is based on class, and class works more along racial lines in the US, and on national lines in Europe.

I agree with you that in order to entice the hottest American white girls to work in an FKK-type of establishment the price would have to be high. And with this being the high cost-of-living United States that's exactly what would happen too. It would be on par with Zurich and Tokyo pricing, if not even worse. Which means that although I would partake (would get a break since wouldn't have to pay for airfare, lodging, and all that), I would still travel to my beloved Brazil for the "brancas" and "morenas". And that raises another fact. You keep talking about black versus white, but the United States is one of the greatest rainbow-colored nations there ever was. From black to white and everything else in between. And that's exactly what you would find working in an American FKK too if it was legal. But to attract the finest, the cost would have to be sky high! But if you want it, then you can most certainly find it (all shades) in the good old USofA. It's just that regardless of the color, if she's "fine", then that pussy (let alone that butt hole LMAO) is going to cost you big time! Plus you'd have a lot of American girls insisting on covered everything too. Bunk that! Have passport. Will travel. Another thing I could see happening is that you would have the black FKK, the white FKK, the Hispanic FKK, the Asian FKK, the Iranian-American FKK, the "mixed" FKK (would be my favorite), etc. America. Don't you love it? LOL!

[Mongerer88]

That's an interesting supposition you make there. But, I don't see how the post you made logically leads to it. Let's look at some facts. There are plenty of attractive white girls all over the United States not only working in porn, but also in strip clubs (I have fucked several in those over the years) and as escorts (fucked some of them too). So, I don't think it's too far of a stretch of the imagination to think that if FKK-type clubs were widely legal in the States then we would find all kinds of girls coming out of the shadows and working in them, including white ones. In fact, if you go out to Nevada where prostitution is legal in certain counties, you will find plenty of white girls working (including illegally in those Nevada counties where it's against the law). So why you seem to think no attractive white girls would work in legal American FKKs, if there were such a thing, is beyond me (and the facts). Plenty of white tutes or "brancas" are working in Brazil too. In the States, I think the big issue for international mongers would be price and attitude. I mean American strippers want to charge a queen's ransom just to strip (let alone escort) and then get mad if the guy pops a boner while they're grinding all over his dick! I can only imagine the bad attitudes and accompanying exorbitant prices to fuck. I say "fuck that noise" and give me my Brazilian brancas and my Romies!

I agree. There is no shortage of women doing sex work in the USA They get high rates because the entire pay structure in the USA Is higher than outside of the USA There are some hassles and barriers to doing sex work in the USA, most notably advertising, screening and some form of joining / interviewing such as signing up for seeking or doing things at or outside of the strip joint other than stripping. There is some percentage of women who do not want to go through those hassles and would perhaps show up for work at an FKK, but I don't think that percentage is very high. And they wouldn't make very good sex workers, honestly. It is the lower prices abroad that is the primary attraction for USA Johns.

Now there is one thing that would be a game changer. If the USA Was like Germany, the workers at the FKKs would not be Americans just like the ladies at German FKKs are usually not German (the German ladies are doing independent escorting at a high price). If the USA Allowed German-style FKKs and operated them like the Germans do, the workers would be Venezuelan and Mexican and Colombian ladies coming over on worker visas and having sex for $100 to $200 a session and leaving after working for a few weeks with enough money to make their families the wealthiest in their villages. If you think the American political system will ever allow that, you believe that cute unicorns wander the earth, along with equally cute Dodo birds.

The USA Is a wealthy country, as are the Scandanavian countries in Europe. Wealthy countries have expensive commercial sex, whether the purchase of that sex is illegal or half-legal. But those countries have a commercial sex market. And those wealthy countries actively discourage poor immigrant women from entering those countries to sell sex. Germany takes an approach that would never be accepted in the USA.

[Jmioffe]

That's an interesting supposition you make there. But, I don't see how the post you made logically leads to it. Let's look at some facts. There are plenty of attractive white girls all over the United States not only working in porn, but also in strip clubs (I have fucked several in those over the years) and as escorts (fucked some of them too). So, I don't think it's too far of a stretch of the imagination to think that if FKK-type clubs were widely legal in the States then we would find all kinds of girls coming out of the shadows and working in them, including white ones. In fact, if you go out to Nevada where prostitution is legal in certain counties, you will find plenty of white girls working (including illegally in those Nevada counties where it's against the law).

Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. Yes, there are white SWs. But if there was a US FKK charging similarly low rates as they do in Germany, I contend it would be mostly girls from the poorer end of the socio-economic spectrum, which are usually non-whites in the US. Just like how in Germany, there are definitely German SWs.

But German SWs, they're not considered low class in the same way Romanians are there. There definitely are German girls in an FKK, but they're exceptions. Most German SWs are commanding more money on the escort market.

I think the dynamic would be similar in the US, but less on nationality lines and more on racial lines. As it stands, in the US P4 P market, white girls command a higher price than black girls. Just look at tryst. Link or craiglist -- the lower you go in price, the darker the provider generally. This is not to make a judgment on the inherent worth of people -- just an observation that the financial efficiency of an FKK is based on class, and class works more along racial lines in the US, and on national lines in Europe.

[The Cane]

https://twitter.com/eating_lux/statu...15932032254170

Saw this tweet recently, reminded me of a thought I've long had about FKKs, as an American. One reason why FKKs are so amazing to Americans (or was so amazing) is because they're populated by these young pretty white girls who we're used to paying much more for.
But Europeans don't value the white skin of these girls so much because they see class before race, and a lot of the FKK girls are low class. If America somehow got around its puritanical mindset and opened an FKK, it still wouldn't be stocked with young pretty white girls but likely with lower class girls, as they are in European FKKs, but in America they would not be white.

That's an interesting supposition you make there. But, I don't see how the post you made logically leads to it. Let's look at some facts. There are plenty of attractive white girls all over the United States not only working in porn, but also in strip clubs (I have fucked several in those over the years) and as escorts (fucked some of them too). So, I don't think it's too far of a stretch of the imagination to think that if FKK-type clubs were widely legal in the States then we would find all kinds of girls coming out of the shadows and working in them, including white ones. In fact, if you go out to Nevada where prostitution is legal in certain counties, you will find plenty of white girls working (including illegally in those Nevada counties where it's against the law). So why you seem to think no attractive white girls would work in legal American FKKs, if there were such a thing, is beyond me (and the facts). Plenty of white tutes or "brancas" are working in Brazil too. In the States, I think the big issue for international mongers would be price and attitude. I mean American strippers want to charge a queen's ransom just to strip (let alone escort) and then get mad if the guy pops a boner while they're grinding all over his dick! I can only imagine the bad attitudes and accompanying exorbitant prices to fuck. I say "fuck that noise" and give me my Brazilian brancas and my Romies!

[Jmioffe]

https://twitter.com/eating_lux/statu...15932032254170

Saw this tweet recently, reminded me of a thought I've long had about FKKs, as an American. One reason why FKKs are so amazing to Americans (or was so amazing) is because they're populated by these young pretty white girls who we're used to paying much more for.

But Europeans don't value the white skin of these girls so much because they see class before race, and a lot of the FKK girls are low class. If America somehow got around its puritanical mindset and opened an FKK, it still wouldn't be stocked with young pretty white girls but likely with lower class girls, as they are in European FKKs, but in America they would not be white.

[Palomino1350]

I'm going to be finding myself in Munich on the first weekend of Oktoberfest for a business trip. I prefer the FKK type environment rather than other forms of mongering and know that generally Munich is not the best place for this with sunshine being the only option. The question is does anyone have any idea how things in sunshine (and other FKKs in the area) change during Oktoberfest wknd? Do things pick up, more girls come in? Does the place get very crowded and become a sausage fest? Anyone have experience with the mongering scene in Munich during Oktoberfest?

[Sirioja]

Why give business to Russia when you support Ukraine?

Of course, I support Ukraine versus Putin, but my Russian little mum model type and her child live in Germany. She has sweetness of little mum to her child and such will to please me from how I treat her, asking: why is it so important to make me cum? When some are excited to fuck girls like piece of meat in public, I enjoy much more to make cum woman types meaning with image of normal woman. We were only room in garden on this Saturday, for my Russian dream, when rare German was not ready at Sharks on June. I also don t know any other girl who could resist to such sporty fucking with my real size on our 2 last rooms, what I call a woman, even pulling me deep inside her, when I would have killed all Romanian little pussies at Sharks, even those around 1,80 tall. 150/60 for really high GFE level with a Russian woman, quite good value in FKK land, half Globe rate for higher real GFE level got from who I am, not with Globe rules.