American Politics

[EihTooms]

Not just once, not just twice, but THREE TIMES, the Repub Party's far and away most beloved iconic leader, major frontrunner for the 2024 presidential nomination and representative of their core values and agenda, referenced Barack Obama as the candidate he defeated in a previous election and will face again in 2024.

He also declared that if we are not careful we will surely enter World War II any minute now:

Donald Trump warns of threat of World War II, mixes up names of Joe Biden and Barack Obama in Washington speech.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-...tion/102866974

Imagine how many early morning and primetime hours for weeks Fux News Channel would devote to playing an endless loop of Joe Biden saying just those two sentences below in rapid succession as Trump did in order to analyze how the poor POTUS is losing it. LOL:

"I know this; I don't even know that.": Trump pressed on classified documents.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wa...s-193025093997

Trump says he's pleased by Putin's praise: 'I like that he said that'.
Russian President Vladimir Putin recently said he was "happy" to hear Trump's promise to "resolve all burning issues within several days" including the war in Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ess-rcna105298

Trump readily claimed in the interview that if re-elected president, he would resolve the war within 24 hours, though he provided few details about how he would end a conflict that has dragged on for more than 18 months. The former president has asserted several times that he could quickly end the war.

Oh, so Grab Her By The Covefe Trump will resolve and end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours, will he? Funny, by my calculation and owing to the fact that there was an extra day in February in Leap Year 2020, the United States of America was actively engaged in a ground war for every hour of every 24 hour day of Commander in Cheat Donald J. Trump's disastrous so-called presidency, all 1461 of those days, and he never resolved shit.

Then again, it is not out of the question to suspect Trump thought of himself more as president of Russia then as now rather than president of the USA and had more interest in its affairs rather than in resolving the horrific problems he was creating for America.

Cue the typically pro-Repub MSM Bothsiderism shrugging all this off as something old folks like Trump and Biden do all the time despite the fact that Joe Biden has never sounded that confused and blithering in the 50+ years he has been a public figure.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"So why are people moving from blue states to red states?

https://ktla.com/news/california/5-c...ed-in-the-u-s/

https://www.businessinsider.com/cali...-bureau-2021-9".

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/14/t...s-in-rome.html

[SubCmdr]

Section 3.

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

[EihTooms]

"Because they can't cut it at the jobs and for the cost of housing in a state like California or New York. ".

A single 58 yo white male in SOCAL? Hmmmmm.

No gracias Senor.

No, I didn't go anywhere to find a job or secure cheaper housing.

Thanks in large part to my family having the smarts to get the hell out of a Ruby Red state when I was 10 years old and move to California, I was blessed with the opportunity to live, work, earn and invest there to the happy outcome that I have not needed to be gainfully employed or spend one hour in a job or doing most anything else that does not please me since I was 58.

I could have comfortably remained where I was in the 2nd most popular / populace metropolitan area in the USA in the most popular / populace state in the USA.

I certainly could have taken my pick of any Red state to retire. If I was excited about sitting on the porch with Jethro and Aunt Bea counting tumble weeds blowing by, maybe spend Saturday nights watching them unload the trucks at Wal-Mart or kept busy fending off some of the deadliest and most dangerous weather conditions in the country. That is, if Jethro, Aunt Bea and I managed to defy being victims of their highest murder rates in the country.

Instead, I chose to enjoy the great fun, comfort, variety and pleasure of residing in the most popularly visited city on the Planet. And justifiably so.

Thanks again, USA, California, Franklin, JFK / LBJ, Jimmy, Bill, Barack and Joe.

[EihTooms]

So am I supposed to list the population of red states Texas and Florida and question why they only get the same number of Senate seats as small blue states? OK, well, by damn, I'll do it!

Texas 30,029,572
Florida 22,244,823


Vermont 647,064
Delaware 1,018,396
Rhode Island 1,093,734
Maine 1,385,340
New Hampshire 1,395,231
Hawaii 1,440,196

Democrats are just as bad as Republicans when it comes to trying to game the system. You seem to have difficulty recognizing that, just as you have difficulty recognizing that there are red states with large populations and blue states with small populations.

In a 3-Card Monte scam, all three cards you see on the table are part of the scam. Only a rube thinks he has a legitmate 1 in 3 chance of pointing to the money card. Oh, better than that as long as the scammer is making it so easy to keep his eye on it, right? LOL.

You would lose a lot of $20 bills at the table.

California's 54 EC votes are every bit as much a part of the scam "illusion" that there is some numerical fairness about the EC system that was specifically designed to help the candidate with fewer votes than his opponent win anyway as all those Red states' 3, 4, 5, 6 or more EC votes.

Another part of the scam that defies numerical fairness or in any way supports or honors a majority vote by the American electorate or the concept of democracy is the Winner-Take-All element of it. Let's call that another part of the 3-Card Monte scam you might not have noticed yet:

Let's say California or Texas or Florida has 20,000,000 registered voters (set aside for now how difficult the deceitful and dishonest Repub governors of Texas and Florida might make it for likely Dem voters to cast a ballot). And let's further say that for whatever reason 10,000,001 of California's (or Texas or Florida, if likely Dem voters can find a working polling place machine or a drop box anywhere in their area) voters go stark raving lunatic in 2024 and vote for Trump or DeSantis and the rest vote for Biden.

What happens to those 9,999,999 Biden votes? They evaporate into thin air, right? Just like the money card in that 3-Card Monte scam that you could swear you saw land right where you pointed.

They do not roll over into Biden's votes anywhere else, not Texas, not Florida, not even Wyoming where the sum of them might still mean he could get Millions more votes in the country than Trump / DeSantis.

Since Reagan's former VP was defeated in 1992, the American electorate has only once chosen a Repub over a Dem to occupy the White House. And if the pro-Repub rigged EC system scam had not put that Repub in the WH the first time despite a majority of the electorate not wanting him there, he would not have been in position to deceitfully and dishonestly lie himself into a "wartime president" advantage in order to squeak out a win the second time around either.

An EC system that was specifically designed to thwart the majority will of the American electorate is always rigged to favor the candidate the country does not want. And "today", since 1992, that has overwhelmingly been the Repub candidate.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Utah and the Mormons can recover their reputation that the dirtbag destroyed.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...rst-candidate/

[Tiny 12]

I didn't say Repubs came up with it. It is simply rigged to favor less popular / lower population states, which turns out to be where Repubs can cut it.

Yes, it is based on congressional delegation, not population. And the minimum number is 3. That is why my replaced calculation was about arriving at the minimum number, 3.

I am sure you are not just learning that 2 of those minimum 3 are for the 2 Senate Seats that is the exact same number of Senators the 40,000,000 people of California get to represent them as the 580,000 people of Wyoming, the 733,000 people of Alaska, the 779,000 people of North Dakota, the 900,000 people of South Dakota, the 1,700,000 people of West Virginia, the 1,900,000 people of Idaho, the 2,900,000 people of Kansas, the 2,900,000 people of Mississippi, etc.

So now you see why Trump tried desperately to further rig the EC system that is already rigged to favor Repubs by manipulating the census in 2020:

Trump officials interfered with the 2020 census beyond cutting it short, email shows

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/15/10733...rference-trump

So am I supposed to list the population of red states Texas and Florida and question why they only get the same number of Senate seats as small blue states? OK, well, by damn, I'll do it!

Texas 30,029,572
Florida 22,244,823


Vermont 647,064
Delaware 1,018,396
Rhode Island 1,093,734
Maine 1,385,340
New Hampshire 1,395,231
Hawaii 1,440,196

Democrats are just as bad as Republicans when it comes to trying to game the system. You seem to have difficulty recognizing that, just as you have difficulty recognizing that there are red states with large populations and blue states with small populations.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Yes, Mitt would get primaried by a vindictive Trump if he runs in 2024, and probably lose. In Utah, it won't make much difference, as the Republican, whoever he or she is, will triumph in November.

Trump did the same thing to Jeff Flake in Arizona. Flake, who would have won the general election, withdrew because he knew he couldn't get past the primary. If not for Trump and his influence over the primaries and general elections, Republicans would control the Senate and have a solid majority in the House. Georgia would be red instead of purple, and Arizona might just be red too. Donald Trump is the Democrat's Best Friend.

Respectfully Marquis, Trumpsters only represent about 35% of American voters. I don't think the Republican Party can win enough seats to control the House and Senate if it continues kicking people like Romney to the side. ".

He only ran for Orins seat because he just wanted to be able to vote to impeach Our lord and Savior.

If that's not vindictive? What did Trump do to him?

During the 1st sham impeachment trial wasnt he the only member of the senate to ever vote for impeachment for POTUS of his own party.

Thats what he joined the senate to do.

You're much more conservative than I, you should hate him more than I do, he is a RINO.

Former Gov of Mass, his Romneycare served as a model for Obamacare.

I am a Nationalist populist, I'm quite optimistic Trump will expand the partys appeal with non whites 2023-2029.

The quintessential big tent, stay tuned. ".

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/u...ck-voters.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/u...pgtype=Article

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Because they can't cut it at the jobs and for the cost of housing in a state like California or New York. ".

A single 58 yo white male in SOCAL? Hmmmmm.

No gracias Senor.

[EihTooms]

Well, you learn something new every day. A state's electoral votes actually equal the total number of senators and House members.

Each state receives a number of house districts proportional to its population. The average Congressional District has a population of 761,000. The three smallest are Wyoming, Vermont and the District of Columbia, with populations of 581381,647064 and 671803 respectively. Until 2021, Montana had the largest Congressional District, a single district of over 1 million.

So, any state with a low number of electoral votes is over-represented in the electoral college, because every low population state gets the benefit of receiving two electoral votes, equivalent to that state's number of Senators. Here's a complete list of states with three or four electoral votes:

Hawaii
Idaho
Maine
New Hampshire
Rhode Island
Alaska
Delaware
District of Columbia
Montana
North Dakota
South Dakota
Vermont
Wyoming

By my count that's seven blue states (including the District of Columbia) and seven red states. Contrary to your belief, small states aren't mostly red states.

As to California losing out, yeah, it does a little bit. So do red Florida and red Texas, the second and third most populous states.

Contrary to what you're saying, Republicans didn't come up with that system. James Madison and our other founders did. They were not Republicans. Furthermore, you are not going to overturn the electoral system unless you also overturn our Constitutional Republic, as any amendment to the Constitution requires ratification by 2/3 rds of the states. And the smaller states won't approve a change in the EC system.

And again, what does it matter? There have only been three elections since Rutherford B. Hayes was elected where the winner of the popular vote didn't win the election. And in two of those the losing candidate won the popular vote by a c**t hair. Hillary Clinton / Donald Trump was a fluke. Yeah, I wish Hillary had won. We might not have gotten the corporate tax cut or the COVID vaccine in record time. And we certainly wouldn't have benefitted from deregulation. But I bet Republicans would control the presidency, House and Senate today if she'd been the winner in 2016. And considering we elected a Republican Senate and House in 2016, things might have turned out just fine under Hillary. They certainly did under Bill and a Republican Congress.

The controversy about the 2000 and 2016 elections is a way for Democratic politicians to engender sanctimony and moral outrage in their supporters. The rules are the rules, and you play by them. If you lose, you accept it, unlike Donald Trump, Stacey Abrams, and many Democrats in 2000 and 2016.

I didn't say Repubs came up with it. It is simply rigged to favor less popular / lower population states, which turns out to be where Repubs can cut it.

Yes, it is based on congressional delegation, not population. And the minimum number is 3. That is why my replaced calculation was about arriving at the minimum number, 3.

I am sure you are not just learning that 2 of those minimum 3 are for the 2 Senate Seats that is the exact same number of Senators the 40,000,000 people of California get to represent them as the 580,000 people of Wyoming, the 733,000 people of Alaska, the 779,000 people of North Dakota, the 900,000 people of South Dakota, the 1,700,000 people of West Virginia, the 1,900,000 people of Idaho, the 2,900,000 people of Kansas, the 2,900,000 people of Mississippi, etc.

So now you see why Trump tried desperately to further rig the EC system that is already rigged to favor Repubs by manipulating the census in 2020:

Trump officials interfered with the 2020 census beyond cutting it short, email shows

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/15/10733...rference-trump

At the time, the administration was faced with the reality that if Trump lost the November election he could also lose a chance to change the census numbers used to redistribute political representation. The window of opportunity was closing for his administration to attempt to radically reshape the futures of the U.S. House of Representatives and the Electoral College.

[EihTooms]

So why are people moving from blue states to red states?

Because they can't cut it at the jobs and for the cost of housing in a state like California or New York.

[MarquisdeSade1]

So why are people moving from blue states to red states?

https://ktla.com/news/california/5-c...ed-in-the-u-s/

https://www.businessinsider.com/cali...-bureau-2021-9

[MarquisdeSade1]

So how is it rigged? For them today.

Gee, let us count the ways.

The American electorate chose Al Gore over Repub GW Disaster by half a Million votes. Yet, thanks to the deceptive and dishonest Repub majority on the Supreme Court deceptively and dishonestly granting themselves a single exception to their Party's otherwise screetching about States' Rights when they intervened and stopped the vote count in Florida at about the level of a queue at a Starbucks favoring their boy whereupon, thanks to a deceptive and dishonest EC system favoring the MINORITY recipient of presidential election votes (read: The Repub Party today) and in defiance of democracy, GW Disaster was appointed so-called potus.

The American electorate chose Hillary Clinton over Repub Donald J. Disaster by 3 Million votes. Yet, thanks to an EC system that was invented to help the MINORITY vote recipients (read: The Repub Party today) win the election despite getting fewer votes. Donald J. Disaster was appointed so-called potus.

If a mere 43,000 votes had been shifted or deceptively and dishonestly "found" by the typically deceptive and dishonest Repub state reprentatives as their deceptive and dishonest Repub Party lord and savior leader and fellow Repubs had hoped, plotted, planned and extorted some of then to do, the American electorate STILL would have chosen Joe Biden by 7 Million votes yet Repub Donald J. Disaster would have been appointed so-called potus anyway.

There is no Dem Party advantage counterpart to this anti democratic deceptiion and dishonesty. Blue states are more popular to live and work in, therefore have the greatest populations. Consequently there is no way the Dem Party is going to squeak out an EC "victory" while also losing the vote by anywhere from half a million to 7 million.

Take your MEDS bro.

[Elvis 2008]

Politics Girl, just nails it! Precise, succinct, truthful and pulls no punches getting to the point. One of the best videos I've seen, on false equivalencies and bothsiderism in the fourth estate.

LOL.

Biden White House spokesperson Ian Sams sent out a letter to news organizations Tuesday, giving instructions on how they should cover (or non-cover, as it were) the Republican impeachment inquiry announced that day by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

In one instance Sams was able to quote himself in a tweet less than 24 hours after the Washington Post obligingly used, in a headline, language from his letter about GOP efforts to "muddy waters. " The trick was made famous by Dick Cheney, who once fed a WMD story to reporters he himself then cited in a Meet The Press interview. Once, getting rolled like that was considered embarrassing, but this crew just nuzzles and begs for more. Already all summer, they've been helping blanket a quote assiduously kept out of headlines: "Five million to pay one Biden, and five million to another Biden. ".

It can't have been fun for Biden officials to see this public, especially given how neatly it lines up with son Hunter's infamous "unlike Pop I won't make you give me half your salary" quote. Next to IRS whistleblower testimony about Hunter Biden's shell companies, Devon Archer's testimony about Joe Biden's presence during his son's business calls, Joe dining with Burisma exec Vadym Pozharsky at Cafe Milano, and other matters, this is a non-ignorable story now, and the pucker factor chez Biden must be real.

Sams then linked to a series of press stories containing passages underscoring the "unverified claims" theme. Among others, he cited Axios (the FBI form "simply documents an interview with a source, and does not in itself indicate any suspicions of wrongdoing" NBC ("The bribery allegation. Wasn't substantiated") and CNN ("The FBI and prosecutors who previously reviewed the information couldn't corroborate the claims".

What did those stories have in common? They all contained quotes from Ian Sams! White House official sends instructions to reporters, citing media reports sourced to the same White House official. If this merry-go-round doesn't convince you the lines between media and politicians have been irrevocably blurred, go back and look. You'll find this same cycle of press figures packing bodies of articles with official denials, then augmenting their own text with the official's terminology: "refuted," "debunked," "no evidence of wrongdoing," etc. You can't tell who wrote the original line of defense. Despite this, Sams without irony referred to White House assertions being confirmed by "independent press" five times.

End of quote. So Biden's White House instructs the press how to report, and this crazy witch thinks the media is not doing it's job because it is not even more pro-Biden.

What about the Hunter Biden laptop story? You know the one where it was written by Hunter, "unlike Pop I won't make you give me half your salary". What happened with that? I must have missed the wall to wall coverage right before the 2020 election.

Let me state the glaringly obvious. The Bidens were putting some of the USA foreign aid money into their own pocket. Joe used Hunter to give him half of the millions that went to the Bidens. When Victor Shokin threatened those bribes, Joe Biden had him fired. When Donald Trump wanted this looked into, the Democrats tried to impeach him.

We have gone from the bullshit claim that Joe Biden was not involved and not influenced to being paid off for the perception of influence or for false influence.

But the real question is this, why the fuck would the Vice President of the USA have a foreign prosecutor fired? If you think it was for any reason outside of Joe Biden protecting the family bribes, you are out of your fucking mind.

[Tiny 12]

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/religion-masking

That link just doesn't make sense.

Republicans should wear good quality masks when appropriate (like when you're sitting next to someone who's coughing), get vaccinated against infectious diseases, exercise, eat a healthy diet, and take advantage of preventative medicine. Everyone needs to be alive and healthy, to go to the polls and vote!