Stupid shit in Medellin

[LoveItHere]

I remember you admitted that an increase of gringo in Centro will harm the price structure and the relationship between the girls and western clients a few years ago. Also you knew that the gringos who are likely to come to Centro are those with problematic characters. Still you couldn't stop bragging your "knowledge" and street smartness, and told everybody to come to Centro.

I actually sent a private message to him and two others 7+ months ago that basically said to "shut the F up!" he is unable to do so. He again had to place a price in his response. He convinced maybe 50 - 100 guys to come. Being one of the first and easiest countries to enter after COVID brought in thousands. But the real problem was Youtube, Twitter, and other videos that convinced tens of thousands to come visit.

The game has changed in LaLa Land. That is why the girls are fewer and much harder to find now. No, I will not tell you and slit my own throat.

The future as I see it.

The gringos keep offering more and more money. I have had 3 girls ask for 100,000 for no condom sex. I declined. Already saw attitude with that offer. There is local and gringo pricing. In the next 2-3 years the gringo price will be twice as high as the local price. So many girls will make the switch to gringos only. The locals will get tired of such high prices and stop coming. Locals make up around 95% of the Centro girl's customers. So a few less customers will cause a few less girls. Less girls will mean a few less customers so then a few less girls. Then the price will be so high that the majority of the Centro girls will make the jump to Poblado. The remaining girls will be only on bar street behind the church with only the too young and the too old available. From there Poblado may have so many girls of the night that the mayor may shut it down. Then all the girls will only be found in strip clubs, casas, and online.

[JjBee62]

Well you go ahead and stand up for them all you want, it's futile. I'm done trying talk any sense into you. And it wasn't cigarettes that were stolen, maybe if your reading comprehension skills were better you would have read that it was a laptop and a camera, not a pack of cigarettes.

Personally, my reading comprehension is pretty good, but my memory isn't what it used to be.

Wasn't she the girl you left alone in your apartment while you walked down to find her a taxi?

If so, her being a Venezuelan has nothing to do with it. If you leave any hooker alone in your apartment with anything of value around, chances are, something is going to be stolen. Even leaving 1 alone in a room where there's something valuable, even for a minute, is giving her a green light to grab whatever she can.

My own, limited, experiences with Venezuelan women have been fantastic.

[Blue Touch]

Yes I did, and than the Pandemic hit, and Colombia was one of the very few countries wide open after only eight months while SEA basically only opened up this year, so a lot of mongers who would frequent SEA started showing up here and when finding out how inexpensive it is, more and more have shown up and polluted mongering for the foreigners.

From my perspective, and for guys who have been mongering in Centro here for at least five years, they know how different things are here now.

As an example, I have a friend who has been staying in Centro for the past two months. He seems to be only going with Venezuelans, and he complains that they always want more money, have body odor issues, and other bullshit, albeit the Colombians due way less.

Prior to the Pandemic, the Venezuelan SW's where not in the majority of workers around Centro, but now they are, and at that time they would constantly undercut the Colombians. Well now they weigh out number the Colombians working Centro, and with the onslaught of new mongers who can't believe they could be getting pussy for less than $ 10 USD, along with all their reports, and bingo, here we are today, which you really can't blame on me. LOL.

Another example of how shitty it can be nowadays. On Friday night I took a stroll with some buddies around Veracruz at 8 PM.

One Vennie was with two other friends and was very aggressive and wanted me to take her. I politely told her I had no leche and no desire but she said it's not important that you can't leche and to take her because she needed money. All kind of bullshit and apparently she's probably duped some other gringos who I can only imagine had bad sessions, but wouldn't be trying this stuff with a local.

I don't remember the Colombian SW's prior to the Pandemic being as hard core as some of the Venezuelan SW's are today.

But I don't blame them, and respect them as they are just trying to make a living.

I told my friend he would have better luck with the Colombians.

So for many of the board members who recently started mongering here, they don't know how different it was prior to the Pandemic. And for many they think this place is the best thing since sliced bread.

Unfortunately though there is not much that can done about this except to convene a grand jury of Medellin mongers, and if I am found culpable in the demise of mongering here I guess send me off to prison somewhere. LOL.

I remember you admitted that an increase of gringo in Centro will harm the price structure and the relationship between the girls and western clients a few years ago. Also you knew that the gringos who are likely to come to Centro are those with problematic characters. Still you couldn't stop bragging your "knowledge" and street smartness, and told everybody to come to Centro.

[Gabacho]

Bcos of crass statements like the one you made. Venzlan woman are lazy fkn bltches, as if you had great insight in to the matter, and not some general slur based on your own anecdotal sample of a handful of them. One could meet a group of women from ant country in the world and conclude the same thing, so what you said was just meaningless nonsense based on some bias you have from being a victim urself. Crime happens everywhere. No need to tarnish a whole nation because some skank stole your cigarettes.

Well you go ahead and stand up for them all you want, it's futile. I'm done trying talk any sense into you. And it wasn't cigarettes that were stolen, maybe if your reading comprehension skills were better you would have read that it was a laptop and a camera, not a pack of cigarettes.

[Gabacho]

Yes and where did you find or how did you first come into contact with this person?

A friend of a botero girl.

[JustTK]

JusTK, please do enlighten us as to why you are standing up for these dirty venecas??

Bcos of crass statements like the one you made. Venzlan woman are lazy fkn bltches, as if you had great insight in to the matter, and not some general slur based on your own anecdotal sample of a handful of them. One could meet a group of women from ant country in the world and conclude the same thing, so what you said was just meaningless nonsense based on some bias you have from being a victim urself. Crime happens everywhere. No need to tarnish a whole nation because some skank stole your cigarettes.

[Mr Enternational]

Let's see, how about the pregnant lesbian dyke chick that stole my laptop and camera out of my backpack on my first day of my Jan thru March trip, she was Venezuelan. You see I have first hand experiences to back up my claims. I'm not just talking out my ass like MB1 would do.

Yes and where did you find or how did you first come into contact with this person?

[MongerHunger]

I was amused when you still continue to try to correct LIH. LOL.

Look at it this way, the gringos changed the character of many places. I think it started with Parque Lleras. It's been changed so much that I think regular girl will avoid it so not be mistaken as a hooker. It's only a matter of time to see the changes in the strip clubs and on the street. I saw all these unfolding on ISG and in person. You can see the clue on the report today. Also checkout Nypher's post in Cartagena thread to see the changes.. LOL

The key is to get off the beaten path in Colombia where a lot of things are not changing. Most gringos do not go there. It can also be a true cultural experience.

[GeneHickman]

I do remember when you were posting daily about el Centro, and highly encouraging guys to come.

I was thinking, nooooo, stop! LOL.

Not your fault obviously, this invasion. Only partially, LOL.

I have learned to keep my mouth shut when I find a new great place.

I travel all thru Brazil and I selfishly like to keep it good.

Just reminiscing, I remember when Cartagena was a true gem of a place.

I also remember when Cali was the hot spot for chasing girls in Colombia and Medellin was never visited, being far too dangerous.

I discovered Medellin on a whim many moons ago, and being a gringo was a true novelty.

I still enjoy it, it's just way different now.

Enjoy!

When does the Grand Jury convene? LOL.

Agree with much you're saying. How do you meet girls in Brazil Facebook / other social media, termas, or some other way? Also how challenging has Portuguese been to navigate? BTW your mailbox is full.

[Nounce]

Yes I did, ...

I was amused when you still continue to try to correct LIH. LOL.

Look at it this way, the gringos changed the character of many places. I think it started with Parque Lleras. It's been changed so much that I think regular girl will avoid it so not be mistaken as a hooker. It's only a matter of time to see the changes in the strip clubs and on the street. I saw all these unfolding on ISG and in person. You can see the clue on the report today. Also checkout Nypher's post in Cartagena thread to see the changes.. LOL

[Balboa]

Yes I did, and than the Pandemic hit, and Colombia was one of the very few countries wide open after only eight months while SEA basically only opened up this year, so a lot of mongers who would frequent SEA started showing up here and when finding out how inexpensive it is, more and more have shown up and polluted mongering for the foreigners

Unfortunately though there is not much that can done about this except to convene a grand jury of Medellin mongers, and if I am found culpable in the demise of mongering here I guess send me off to prison somewhere. LOL.

I do remember when you were posting daily about el Centro, and highly encouraging guys to come.

I was thinking, nooooo, stop! LOL.

Not your fault obviously, this invasion. Only partially, LOL.

I have learned to keep my mouth shut when I find a new great place.

I travel all thru Brazil and I selfishly like to keep it good.

Just reminiscing, I remember when Cartagena was a true gem of a place.

I also remember when Cali was the hot spot for chasing girls in Colombia and Medellin was never visited, being far too dangerous.

I discovered Medellin on a whim many moons ago, and being a gringo was a true novelty.

I still enjoy it, it's just way different now.

Enjoy!

When does the Grand Jury convene? LOL.

[Surfer500]

Interesting. You are the one who promoted the veracruz / Botero area on this site everyday and told mongers to come.

Yes I did, and than the Pandemic hit, and Colombia was one of the very few countries wide open after only eight months while SEA basically only opened up this year, so a lot of mongers who would frequent SEA started showing up here and when finding out how inexpensive it is, more and more have shown up and polluted mongering for the foreigners.

From my perspective, and for guys who have been mongering in Centro here for at least five years, they know how different things are here now.

As an example, I have a friend who has been staying in Centro for the past two months. He seems to be only going with Venezuelans, and he complains that they always want more money, have body odor issues, and other bullshit, albeit the Colombians due way less.

Prior to the Pandemic, the Venezuelan SW's where not in the majority of workers around Centro, but now they are, and at that time they would constantly undercut the Colombians. Well now they weigh out number the Colombians working Centro, and with the onslaught of new mongers who can't believe they could be getting pussy for less than $ 10 USD, along with all their reports, and bingo, here we are today, which you really can't blame on me. LOL.

Another example of how shitty it can be nowadays. On Friday night I took a stroll with some buddies around Veracruz at 8 PM.

One Vennie was with two other friends and was very aggressive and wanted me to take her. I politely told her I had no leche and no desire but she said it's not important that you can't leche and to take her because she needed money. All kind of bullshit and apparently she's probably duped some other gringos who I can only imagine had bad sessions, but wouldn't be trying this stuff with a local.

I don't remember the Colombian SW's prior to the Pandemic being as hard core as some of the Venezuelan SW's are today.

But I don't blame them, and respect them as they are just trying to make a living.

I told my friend he would have better luck with the Colombians.

So for many of the board members who recently started mongering here, they don't know how different it was prior to the Pandemic. And for many they think this place is the best thing since sliced bread.

Unfortunately though there is not much that can done about this except to convene a grand jury of Medellin mongers, and if I am found culpable in the demise of mongering here I guess send me off to prison somewhere. LOL.

[JjBee62]

Originally it was to contact them for repeat sessions if I wanted to fuck them agn. But now a days especially after they show their colors I'm just straight blocking them on all platforms.

Honestly lately especially since August, when I got back, I've been seeing more Paisas and Santandereanas as opposed to venecas and I am much more satisfied with their level of service and also they never ask for free money either.

So you've already found a solution to the problem? Why rant about it?

For the record, plenty of Paisas behave in exactly the same way. Over the years I've blocked dozens of them. Scams, attempted thefts, bullshit pity stories. I've heard them all. I'm sure long-term visitors to any other mongering destination deal with the same shit.

It's not about Venezuela. It's about poverty. Worldwide there are 4 main responses to poverty that I can think of:

1. Surrender to it. The lifeless folks begging for change and spending what they collect on their addiction of choice fall here.

2. Exploit it. Find other people in the same situation and use them to pull yourself out of poverty. Pimps, gang leaders, traffickers etc.

3. Attack it. Steal, scam, kill, whatever it takes to get what others have. Don't give a damn about who gets hurt. There's some overlap with group 2.

4. Overcome it. These are the people who work, scrimp and save, hoping they don't fall victim to groups 2 or 3, trying to make a better life. Most don't succeed.

[Gabacho]

Where are you finding the crooks and thieves? Most of the Venezuelans that I come into contact with are in the service industry (restaurants, salons, barber shops, etc) and I have never had them trying to rip me off. This is in Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Chile, and the Dominican Republic. I have dated several that have normal jobs and did not ask me for anything. If you are finding crooks and thieves among people that are doing street shit, then that is to be expected with any nationality.

Let's see, how about the pregnant lesbian dyke chick that stole my laptop and camera out of my backpack on my first day of my Jan thru March trip, she was Venezuelan. You see I have first hand experiences to back up my claims. I'm not just talking out my ass like MB1 would do.

Also I know a lot of them personally, I too have dated several of them evn gone with them to Guatapé, etc. And like I said not all are bad some are good honest people. My handyman dude was honest, there's a taxi driver from Maracaibo I met that was honest, many food vendors as well that are honest. But those are in the minority. The majority of the Venezuelan migrants tend to be "the people doing street shit."

[Blue Touch]

When I'm in Centro I stay clear of other gringos.

Unfortunately because of the onslaught of the new mongers here who used to frequent SEA, and from many others places since the Pandemic, these new mongers since Colombia opened up eight months after the Pandemic have changed many things for foreign mongers in Centro now.

Sometimes I see these mongers as though I was somewhere in SEA who typically have a beer in one hand, and a Cigarette in the other.

Some of them, but not all of them I find disgusting, not only by their personal habits and appearance, but with there dealings with the SW's, and the locals who frequent Centro daily, hence leaving what I call a tarnished image for all of the foreign mongers here of which many are good guys.

As a result of this, the mongering environment is very different than before the Pandemic.

And it's not just the older mongers but also the younger mongers who have contributed to tarnishing all the foreign mongers, as though we have a stigma.

Interesting. You are the one who promoted the veracruz / Botero area on this site everyday and told mongers to come.