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[Amazake]

(Below is a review written prior to leaving Taiwan).

Okay, boys, 24 hours prior to takeoff and I am on my way to Keelung for one last gasp of the traditional Taiwan shacks.

Aside for my favorite girls in Wanhua, those Asian "Waiguorens"(foreigners) over there are not my cup of tea. Far too glitzy and filled with pride and vanity. The whole seen there lacks the traditional Taiwanese flavor that was once so enjoyable. But, now you mostly see transients who are not building a clientele by providing good services and friendships. They are here for a few weeks and vanish and are replaced. But, the good part is that they are young and beautiful. But, that does not translate into good service.

I mean, I can see their point. They want to deal mostly in their looks, and shortchange the men on the real action. As little wear and tear on their bodies as possible. But, when this customer pays, he wants to afford himself to some of their "wear and tear. ".

They pride themselves in giving you as little as possible. Many have youth and beauty and literally dress to kill. Some had evening gowns and heels on last night. Asking well above the standard 1500. Can't trust them beyond their outer costumes, to be able to perform. They literally think that looking good is enough.

Not all, but many share such an attitude. And, there were so many good looking girls to choose from and very few customers. Many of them go home without even one gig. Yet, they remain rigid on minimally performing. Whilst other blue collar older gals are serving up fresh hot burgers, faster than McDonald's during a widespread famine, and you must wait your turn for her to fit you in. And she goes home with a bundle of cash from her day's earnings while these hoards of young beauties return home unsullied. Well, at least they can be guilt free when their boyfriend's ask them what they were doing in Taiwan.

But, here I am waiting for the train to Keelung which promises to be a grand finale, this monger's "coup de grace. ".

I am very nostalgic, loving the ancient past of simpler times. Shacks by the railroad tracks are so enticing to me. I am excited beyond words to take the choo-choo train to find me a final new farewell girlfriend.

Okay, men, my train is nearly here. Will let you know how things go. If for some reason it's a bust in Keelung. Which is highly unlikely, on my train's return trip, there is a Wanhua stop after the Taipei Main Station where I can pull a rabbit out of the hat if necessary. But, don't hold your collective breaths. Keelung is ripe for the pickin'.

(Approximately 2 hours later).

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Did a pretty heavy surveillance. "Spideysense" was on high-alert. I mean "sniper-ish. " I came definitely not for young and beautiful today, although I could find it. I came for a real desperate woman who not only wants my money so bad, but literally will absolutely surrender her soul to me in the bedroom by the tracks in a red-light lit cabin, which are surprisingly very clean.

And, lo' and behold, my desperation met her desperation!

I found a late 30's flat stomach, soft grab-able hips & ass, very petite, very native Taiwanese Suzie-Q, with little be's, and who did plenty of betel nut and tobacco rituals in her day. A real old-school native Taiwanese classic hard-loving sweetheart girl. (Probably most certainly most of you gentlemen would never even give her a second glance).

But, men, not I; no not I. I can spot a really good second-hand vehicle a mile away. And, no, not a cream- puff. A few dings and dangs, but her original paint, never been in a major accident, and never missed an oil change. Mechanically sound!

And, I find out from the get go, "SHE LOVES SEX!

The more the merrier!

She put no limitations on me whatsoever. Encouraged me to maul her and have my fill and take seconds and thirds. Gave like Santa Claus on Christmas Day. Like eating at the buffet, no limit, and she just kept on serving me up richer and more delightful dishes.

Then, she had a good orgasm and that wiped the slate clean, and she came back for more with a vengeance. No quit in her. The buzzer rang. And, I was only getting warmed up moving into second gear. Never even got to mish in the first 20 minutes.

This is a bit disjointed. Sorry for jumping around. Let me fill in the gaps. I am a bit overwhelmed and now in a coffee shop having a snack a few feet away from the red light action.

When I arrived at Keelung, prior to securing my sexy sweetie, I walked the "prowl alley" three times. There were far better than her. Trust me, far better!

But, to me, they looked a bit unprepared, over-thinking, and lacking initiative and firepower. And, boys, I am not playing "Moneybags Daddy Dearest" to some spoiled brat daughter. I don't feel like, on my final day in paradise, to be bamboozled by some girl who thinks she is God's gift to earth, giving me orders on the extended rules and violations for picking her tree and playing in her forest.

So, there was a mamasan in front of a shack who had superb "spideysense" also. Seeing me walking past her a few times, she correctly deduced that I am a classic cheapskate, lest with all the pretty girls available, I should have done my deed and been heading home by now.

So, she yells out at me, with her last available girl, because the prettier sweeties in the lot were taken and I could hear them getting railed in other rooms. And, she yells out "1 k. "I almost spontaneously erected upon hearing that. (oftentimes the deal excites me more than the girl. I just loves me a good deal) I checked with her to see if I wasn't suffering from a hearing impairment.

If there was an auctioneer there, he would have barked emphatically, "sold, to the desperate monger from the west!

She came right at me, so thrilled to be picked, so utterly tickled pink that she had a customer— and there was no way she was going to screw this up. Dry humping each other with our clothes on well before entering our tent, and I stripped her naked- old fashioned style. With her kissing me, laughing, hugging, celebrating. I popped the bra strap from behind and treated myself to a couple of handfuls of all-natural organic pliable "keepemcomin'"sweet milk titties.

Told her I wanted all covered. Decent Blow Job she gave me. She is tight enough for a non-Virgin. Eased slow onto my greased pole in cow girl. And, my friends, there we stayed for the next 20 minutes, performing every variation of cowgirl, fast slow, mushing, tilting, spinning, riding high in the saddle, riding chest to chest, letting my hands just explore and grasp and get really tactile and palpable, intimately familiar with every nuance of her flesh, and with her complete permission to go hog wild.

Well, the buzzer rang and it was literally a joke— laughable — barely an appetizer, a mockery, as we were just moving towards the higher echelons of passion.

She looked at me and never asked. She just told me "We need more time! I just nodded affirmatively.

The second half — she first wanted her second installment of cash— and it was a bit of a mood-killer, digging for cash. But, maybe with a 30 second break in the transaction.

So, moved onto mish. Again, so many variations of mish, straight-away, different slants and angles, variable RPM's, lifting her lovely ass, et cetera! Just as exciting. Buzzer blasts? What? She wants me to take a third session (but, she looked like she was out of gas) and at the same time invites me to come again tomorrow.

I declined to both. She yanked off the condom and started jerking me while hugging and kissing me. And, I start humping her body, and she is just loving the new-found friendship, giggling and painting our future liaisonship.

The sessions were replete with absolute mutual respect and admiration between a man and a woman.

She helped clean me, while I am still dry humping her and cleaning my Johnson was almost turning into a second hand job. She actually had to leave to wash and dress herself, otherwise, as long as she was in the room, I couldn't stop vandalizing her body. (I'm a real pain in the ass, but a harmless, stupid, sometimes likable one).

I will tell you, men, quite sincerely, she was an extraordinarily excellent partner. There was absolute reciprocation in the sex. But, more circular, like our bodies and actions were deeply intertwined and there was a closed electrical circuit creating charging between us. We charged off of each other. Mutual trust and confidence in each other. She really allowed me to lock into her. The motion between us was almost effortless, like a well-tuned, well-broken-in engine. My mind and effort just melted. I didn't have to fidget her.

We didn't overpower one another. There was no competition. We functioned almost as one unit. She was a bit older, worn-in like a good baseball catcher's mit. The two bodies just molded into each other as one. Very sexual sensual and at the same time extremely harmonious. Effortless pole-vaulting. Easily could have enjoyed her for 2 to 3 hours. We both didn't get enough.

I'm good, boys, unless I stop in Wanhua on the way home. But, better judgment tells me to practice some restraint. And, I don't want to spoil the Keelung girl vibe. She gave it to me like I am her one and only. And, I am not a gambling man. What are the odds of duplicating her performance and enthusiasm in Wanhua. "Not bloody likely!

I think that LaoTzu says in the Tao de Ching, "to know when you have had enough. ".

On my way back to the Keelung train, the night shift came out. OH MY GOD, young lookers, indeed! Many displaying that really cool jet black hair in a "Dutchboy," cut. And, I saw one, a statuesque beauty that literally looked like Cleopatra!

And, I locked eyes with a tigress MILF that we shared passionate erotic lovemaking on many occasions, prior— wow, steamy memories! And, I would have loved to go with her again, as well as with Cleopatra, but time is just running out. Oh, that MILF tigress is sensational!

"Stick a fork in me, boys. I am done!

So, dear friends, in the words of my favorite Dictator (Dictator Perpetuo), Julius Caesar:

"Veni, vidi, vici. " (I came, I saw, I conquered).

I am already missing Taiwan and I have not even stepped foot into my aircraft.

My fine mongering gentleman, I know that I liven this stuff up quite a bit. It's not exaggerated, but just detailed. Quite honestly, I extend the writing beyond the mere facts for my own entertainment, and hopefully for yours, also. It truly completes my experience. But, I do know that it annoys some of you. And, for that, I do apologize. Some like the Wikipedia version of a good report. But, for myself, the event is such an incredible event. Probably because I can't roll over and get it at home whenever I like. So, each event is like game 7 of the NBA Finals. But you'll get a break from my verbosity in my absence.

But, in all sincerity, gentlemen, I don't take mongering as lightly as my words might mislead you to believe. I take it pretty seriously. It has its dangers, as we all know. So, be careful. Fortunately, Taiwan is extremely safe with law enforcement allowing us to safely enjoy this activity. But, there is the aspect that LE cannot monitor, like the use of latex and other cleanliness precautions. And, although it's not a major factor with its illegality aspect, still, I wouldn't make a deal right in front of LE.

And, another aspect, keep yourself well-nourished and well-hydrated. Stay away from swarms of bugs and bees and mosquitoes in these hot damp climates. I got stung and bitten by a lot of bugs while wearing shorts and no socks in a park. Instantly, the bites swelled up from infection. I needed some super strong antibiotics. It was pretty ugly for like 7 days.

Eat well, and even take advantage of the herbal medicine hospitals and clinics. Highly effective and keeps you strong. Very cheap with insurance and not so expensive even without insurance.

Many Blessings to all. See you when I return.

I might have a few other stories in my folder that I can post while I am away. I look forward to stopping in and seeing what you guys are up to. Thank you.

[Tna01]

I'm going to be in Keelung for a day.

Any recent reports? Thanks.

[Amazake]

Had some time and I really love The Taiwan Railway Service. So, I packed my bags and headed for the Taoyuan Beauty Alley vicinity.

Of course, upon arriving, I paid a visit to the amazing temple in the very heart of that area. The temple is just gorgeous and it is kept impeccably clean. It glistens with powerful devotional golden artifacts on a red background, and it is drenched and over-pouring with the fragrance of the spirit, as well as the scents from burning candles and incense. (not to mention, they have a lavatory!

Unfortunately, it was raining, and when going to the Beauty Alley area, if you want to really breathe in and absorb the whole scene, you have to cover a lot of ground, and it takes time. Walking is not the best option if you want to survey, make notes of sites of interest, and then find your way back to them again.

So, I mechanized. I got myself a YouBike. If you ever wondered what Taipei did with all those first generation orange bikes, after incorporating the use of the heavy duty new white fleet; well they just sent them down to Taoyuan. The old orange bikes are lighter, faster, and far more nimble. The second generation white fleet are heavier, sturdier, and drive like a truck. But, if you go to an open market on one, and like to hang watermelons, bananas and other groceries on the handlebars, the white truck-like heavier bike is far more stable and safe. I dare say that I have hung 30 to 40 pounds of fresh market sustenance off of those heavy tubular steel handlebars, and still held my own on the road amidst cars, trucks, scooters and motorcycles. And, I sometimes challenge them, AND WIN!

(Please be respectful and refrain from judging my obtuse personality flaws. I haven't had an easy life).

Where was I?

Okay, let me just say that I am not an expert on the Taoyuan scene. But, I do love the variety and bargainability that it offers. Most importantly, I have reviewed old monger posts and maps left by our forefathers in this thread, but they go way back. (pause for a moment of thanksgiving, praise and prayer for the Forefathers. They were a more wild, feisty breed. They mongered Taiwan when it was raging with the pleasures of the traditional oriental society before this westernized puritanical cleanup. Alas, such is the way the world is going) Many areas are ghost town streets now. But, although some of those posts and maps are multiple decades old, they still bear great relevance.

Without them, I would be relegated to Wanhua. A dreary thought, indeed!

However, in my humble opinion, although many shops are closed, some shops had some very nice inventory.

I went into an area beyond the massage stores that are shacks, close to the park. I am sorry for being so vague, but it was raining and a little difficult to navigate and maneuver. I was riding my bike in and out of alleys and one-way streets. It was a chaotic ride through the old grounds, trying to create and remember landmarks, with the ultimate goal of finding a pleasant place / lady, willing to provide me with the most comfort possible for the lowest outlay of cash. And, if you play your cards right there, it lends itself to meet those needs.

The shacks were found, and housed not the best looking girls. I was offered 1200. I almost jumped on it, but I didn't want a hectic romp. And, it was still a bit raunchy. But, that is really no excuse. I've seen worse. She would have been fine if I was in a rush and in need of something more basic, no-frills, primal. Today, I needed some extended pleasure, drawn out, loving, healing, nurturing, along with the sexuality. None of them were worth writing home about.

Of course, as par for the course, I did run into a shack, requesting pricing from the mamasan, who blocked the entrance as if she had identified me as Billy The Kid on an Old West Frontier poster, "Wanted Dead or Alive. " She closed the door in my face to protect the sanctity and dignity of her "House of Ill Repute" from the likes of those such as me, the villainous "waiguoren. " (foreign people) I merely smiled and gave her my best Felix The Cat, "Righty-O! (Hopefully, some of you cats are old enough to remember that endearing cartoon character that I once idolized).

Went back to Bo'ai Street and saw a late 30's, early 40's, but entirely attractive, Vietnamese true spinner. Thin, not very short and super petite.

I talked to her at the door. I do remember her from the distant past. Very little Chinese and English. Talks to me in Vietnamese. I know not one word of Vietnamese. But, between hand gestures, a little English and a little Chinese, we made a deal. She promised me an hour massage for 1 k, and an HJ for plus 500. I made it clear that I wanted my full hour, along with mutual touching. She agreed. She was very pleasant, accommodating, cute, and friendly. This extensive talking at the gate, ironing out price and service, I have found to be very conducive to creating an environment of good communication and less possibility for disappointment. I have found the pre-session communication to act almost like foreplay, getting to know her, feeling her out. Does she smile, concede, warm up during the negotiations? Does she give in a little? How much does she want my business, my presence? It acts as a great lubricant. By the time you start the session, you already have related with each other and somehow know each other's character and personality. And, if she hardens or tightens too much during the negotiation, she might be the same in the room, so you might want to move on to a more amiable sort. But, this Viet passed the test. We were already warm at the gate, with some light touching and genuine smiles. I was all-in and happy with this choice, after a good hour biking and scouting in light rain.

In the room, stripped myself down naked, and flopped my large carcass on the oversized massage table. She laughed and muttered something at my ability to get so comfortable so fast. But, I did feel good about her. Actually, she forgot, but I did session with her years prior. I remember her being a good kid, strong for her weight class, but, nonetheless, unable to withstand very long if I decided to change plans mid massage and opt for full service.

But, getting back to our massage, this wonderful girl came out of the gate so eager, happy and willing, desirous to please me. A+++ attitude. She put everything into that massage. She played beautiful covers of great hits from the 60's, 70's and 80's on her music device. She sang to me, danced around me and kidded me, and gave me kisses and giggled. She felt very safe with me and opened up. She sat and straddled my back like she was riding a horse. She laid on top of me. She did almost everything she could do to make me feel happy, relaxed, comfortable and welcome. The massage was soothing, loving.

She loves harmony. Everything in the room was peaceful, sweet, happy, warm. I really loved the music. At one point. We both irresistibly burst into song together, "Sound of Silence. " It wasn't the original Simon and Garfunkel version, and I bungled the lyrics a bit, but me singing with her, delighted her to no end. We were synching. I kept on grabbing her, a little aggressively, and she tried to teach me the art of subtle touch and urged me to relinquish my caveman behavior. I went along with it. I fell asleep, almost. The massage was long. Ended up being a few minutes shy of an hour.

She had massage skills. She did one of those scary maneuvers on my neck, twice, where you sharply wrench-twist it to the right, and then left, and it cracks so loudly, you actually wonder if she broke your neck permanently. My goddamned neck sounded like a snapped pencil.

But, that bilateral maneuver. Unbelievably, released tons of pressure. And, I looked at her like "WTF! She giggled and gave me a love peck as I stared her down in disbelief, with the echo of the snap still reverberating in my scared head. She also walked on my back.

(She ordered me to turn over).

Came time for the release and she got a little rushed. She was unnerved a bit by the multiple split screen surveillance videos that she monitored for both of our protection. I guess she saw something out of sorts. It must have righted because her carefree and loving temperament returned to our session after a moment of concern by her.

But, it was here where I taught her the art of subtle touch and embrace. She took instructions, curtailed her habit of jackhammering, allowed me to slow grind her crotch with her panties on as she sat on me, cow girl. She said no full service due to her period. But, I believe that wasn't true. She was a bit small. As I said, she is a petite lady. And, our previous encounter was a bit askew with her complaining of pain. She is not heavy duty. But, knowing and understanding her capacity, we both worked within those limits. The enhanced HJ which turned into a dry hump, with a handjob, was a spectacular combination. For this night, with this girl, it fulfilled me more so than intercourse. Not sure why. Maybe, just because it was the culmination of a really good therapeutic massage, accented by a loving touch, her tiny feet and slight frame walking on my back, the music, the singing, the compatibility, the dry-hump, reminding me of years ago, her appreciation of my massaging her in spurts throughout the session. It all intertwined and intermingled as being reminiscent of many years ago, time being spent, carefree, with a lovely young girlfriend.

Also, the fact that she considered 1. 5 to be a lucrative deal for her. She felt well-compensated for her work. So, she worked happily. And, for the legit massage, joyfulness, and sensuality it gave me, I found it to be reasonable. More so, because of the free-spiritedness of the session, no tug-of-war, she was happy with all my advances, like a girlfriend.

It was really a very wonderful experience.

Today, as well as in the very recent past few outings, during longer sessions, my memory seems to uncontrollably burst to the fore. It is a sort of unraveling of a certain aspect of the mind harboring guilt, and the inability to create these same wonderful experiences with my own longstanding relationship. It is also a delving into the past, noting the reason for my waywardness, and how some of it was truly circumstantial, how and why it developed. An inquiry as to whether my womanizing could have been avoided arises. I did, after all, suppress its outbreak for many years. But, when it finally was given outlet, I made up for lost time. Also, seeing that polygamy was so deeply entrenched in my psyche, and the time bomb was destined to explode despite all mitigation.

But, the sadness that I once did have this at home to some extent arose. But the pressures of duty, children, work, money, left not much time for relaxed comfort and it became irreconcilably diluted, Also, a desire to revive my own home relationship, acknowledging that time exists but damage and mistrust has occurred. But there still being a desire to rectify and revive the sentiments once shared.

In this very encounter, I literally was able to become aware of my broken heart and that of my significant other. But, it in no way consumed me, the melancholy. Rather, it emerged as an observation of the discontent.

Sorry for the wet blanket, because this girl was truly wonderful. It sort of inspired me as to the possibility of curing the damage of the past in my own relationship. It was more of an insight. It was not a depression. It was a genuine look into the possibility that exists. Had it been a negative experience, it probably would not lead to insight and inspiration. In many respects, this girl demonstrated to me a harmonious sensual, joyful experience between the sexes. There then arose in me a possibility that I might take what was experienced and learned in this session, and try to replicate it and revive my inharmony in my home.

Hey, if this is my present way of life, I might as well learn something positive from it, because my numerous outings do add up. It is better to view it as paid for classrooms in the art of love and sexuality, as opposed to a mere semen dump.

"God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen," because Taiwan is decorating for Christmas. That part of the westernization is certainly appreciated.

[Amazake]

Sweet & Salty in Keelung.

Well, I am growing closer and closer to the completion of my Bucket List, after my latest rendezvous.

And, when contemplating my day of pleasure, beforehand, the thought of Wanhua, Kangding and Huaxi was like a rainstorm drenching my parade of fantasies. As they say, "familiarity breeds contempt. And, for the time being, I need a sabbatical from that area.

Of course it's close proximity and easy availability will certainly call me back in the future.

Okay, onto Keelung. Did the walk down the dreary aisles and alleys and saw many familiar faces, and some new ones. Not very young, but all very respectable in their own right. Did the stroll a few times, and let the vibes do all the work.

Was attracted to a lovely, 30's who I had a wonderful time with previously. Lilting in her nature. Very sweet, fair complexion, passive features. Very lovely, Taiwanese.

And, here the familiarity bred no contempt. It was an entre into the happy welcoming of a lover from the past, an encounter that ended with sweet memories. And, today was no exception. We picked up where we left off and she was irresistible. Sweetness accented every movement, even the final act of pounding away in good ole doggy. It was a luscious encounter and we seem to be very pleasant friends. The lovemaking was uniquely intimate and sensual. She just has a very beautiful way of entering into her own private sensual zone, reveling there, staying there, relishing every moment, so vulnerable and safe in allowing herself to be gotten to.

I really could have stayed with her for a couple of hours, but "The Bucket List," was beckoning me. So, I left.

And, a few doors down lives a MILF. Not just any MILF. A "tigress MILF. " I saw her on my first walk-through. I passed her by, but she gave me the look, recalling all the passion of many months ago when we lit the room on fire.

So, she welcomed me back. I turned down two younger girls in her hut, and she glowed with female pride. Stuck her chest out, wiggled and paraded her hips as the two youngsters watch mama show them the power of a milfy broad.

Incidentally, the work ethic of these girls far exceeds Wanhua. These girls want you happy, want you pleased, want your business, want you back, and they go the extra mile, even though it is only 20 minutes. I also was turned down by a few because I am a scary foreigner, but that is par for the course.

Sorry, I digress.

Where was I? Oh My God, the tigress MILF!

Before entering the room, the pawing started, uncontrollable laughter, and, I swear, I believe I salivated twice. She is a turn-on. She knows her milfy-tigressness, incites wild passions in me, and she knows damned well she can match everything I can dish out.

It was a wild romp past the buzzer. The girl has spirit, zest and passion. Not young, but a full-fledged woman, confident and in command. Knows when to accelerate and drive hard, and knows when to back off the throttle, coast and be rode.

It was a great time, and I am good for a while. Two romps, two lovelies and compensation was very fair and reasonable. Prices there are on a sliding scale of 1 k to 1. 5. Possibly ladies on the far end, much older are cheaper. I don't know. I never asked. I never felt attracted.

I left, went to a convenience store and robbed it! Hahaha, just joking, wanting to see if you left or were bored. But, that joke woke you up. I only bought a bottle of water and I paid for it with my own money, $29 NT.

Oddly and strangely enough, and weird things happen near Halloween, but on the train writing this, I must still have a vibrant sexual afterglow writing this and from being with two Taiwanese ladies. Because a young chubby but pretty Taiwanese girl "accidentally" bumped into me, physically, aggressively, with her sister (both not beauties, but young ladies) and they both were talking me up and actually said that this old geezer, me, (over 60) was handsome.

I actually panicked for a second, because a very long time ago in my 20's, somebody intentionally bumped into me to distract me and got me involved in conversation, and a hidden guy grabbed my attaché case filled with valuables. But, I checked for my phone and wallet and everything was there.

Go and figure! Weird, really, really, really weird. Fricken Halloween!

So, I talked a bit with the gals, but civilians are not a good game for me. The cost, the time, the boredom. It just ain't worth it. It is better to buy as I go, and sleep well at night with no hangovers and obligations, breakups and makeups. I am too old for that game, and have no patience for that.

Anyway, it was just a momentary contact high. Sometimes you somehow appear young because your "qi" is reaching a high pitch. But, it can't be maintained. But, it is so weird because many times the kids give up their seats on the MRT to me. Which means they see me as ancient. But, I will take this little flicker of praise and chalk it up to the good vibes that "sweet" & "salty" gave me.

[WindAngel]

How legit are the telegram services that claim to deliver girls to your hotel? Seems too good to be true. Also on the pricier side of things, so I just want to know if the quality is there before jumping in. Anyone have any recs if they are good?

The quality varies. I have used them. Ask them if you can reject the girl delivered. Usually you can as many are delivered in a van or taxi that there are more girls in the same car. You probably will need to tip the rejection. They probably will ask your room number to call you to verify, or some other methods. Don't freak out like before.

If I were living in your area, I would stick with JKF. You just need to figure out how to navigate it. Sooner or later, after the learning curve, you will find a reliable provider that you can count on.

[Number3344]

How legit are the telegram services that claim to deliver girls to your hotel? Seems too good to be true. Also on the pricier side of things, so I just want to know if the quality is there before jumping in. Anyone have any recs if they are good?

[AbcGators]

You're totally correct. At this point I'm just curious if others have encountered this before and if they know what sort of scam this is. Since this person won't even accept me sending them cash, is it something more nefarious? What's the deal?

If I were you I'd play it off like the number and photo aren't real. You just pulled it off the internet or something.

[WindAngel]

So I tried adding someone off JK Forum on Line. In Hsinchu I messaged her and she kept giving some weird feeling. She asked me to go to an hotel / apartment complex. I asked if she'd meet me in public but she kept being super strange and sort of lying about meeting in public. She sends me photos of the the hallway she lives in with directions to her door. Super weird vibes, but I was kind of going along with it until she told me to get a key out of her mailbox and go through this apartment complex....

What you are describing is normal procedure. You overthink it. Your reaction made her think you weren't real customer.

[Number3344]

But, the way I understand it, and please correct me if I misinterpreted, she / he "threatened" to post your photo, correct? And, posting your photo is not with your permission, nor your desire.

If in any way anyone uses force, or a threat, their intentions and personality are seriously tainted quite negatively and can't be trusted any further.

There are plenty more reputable "take it, or leave it" encounters with no negative aspects with respect to control tactics and threats.

You're totally correct. At this point I'm just curious if others have encountered this before and if they know what sort of scam this is. Since this person won't even accept me sending them cash, is it something more nefarious? What's the deal?

[Amazake]

The strange thing is they don't want me to pay. I offered money to see what their deal is, but they're insisting on meeting because "they don't take money without proving service. " I'm trying to gauge what the scam now since they don't seem to want money sent to them.

But, the way I understand it, and please correct me if I misinterpreted, she / he "threatened" to post your photo, correct? And, posting your photo is not with your permission, nor your desire.

If in any way anyone uses force, or a threat, their intentions and personality are seriously tainted quite negatively and can't be trusted any further.

There are plenty more reputable "take it, or leave it" encounters with no negative aspects with respect to control tactics and threats.

[Number3344]

Once a bad act shows their true colors, back off completely. Refuse any further communication. The connection will die as they find someone else more hopeful to scam. Never pay a scammer. Once they sense your vulnerability, by you paying, they will consider you a viable option in the future. A clean break is necessary. Never try to assuage them or to appeal to their sense of integrity. They have no scruples.

The strange thing is they don't want me to pay. I offered money to see what their deal is, but they're insisting on meeting because "they don't take money without proving service. " I'm trying to gauge what the scam now since they don't seem to want money sent to them.

[Amazake]

So I tried adding someone off JK Forum on Line. In Hsinchu I messaged her and she kept giving some weird feeling. She asked me to go to an hotel / apartment complex. I asked if she'd meet me in public but she kept being super strange and sort of lying about meeting in public. She sends me photos of the the hallway she lives in with directions to her door. Super weird vibes, but I was kind of going along with it until she told me to get a key out of her mailbox and go through this apartment complex. At this point I tell her no way, this feels to shady (she wouldn't send good verification photos.) I messed up big time buy using my Line with my face and name. She said she'd post my photo on FB. The really strange part is she is demanding that I come have a session with her. At this point, I offered her like 1000 NTD to not do it, but she keeps pushing for us to actually meet. It is all so fishy. Anyone know what the deal is here?

Once a bad act shows their true colors, back off completely. Refuse any further communication. The connection will die as they find someone else more hopeful to scam. Never pay a scammer. Once they sense your vulnerability, by you paying, they will consider you a viable option in the future. A clean break is necessary. Never try to assuage them or to appeal to their sense of integrity. They have no scruples.

[Number3344]

So I tried adding someone off JK Forum on Line. In Hsinchu I messaged her and she kept giving some weird feeling. She asked me to go to an hotel / apartment complex. I asked if she'd meet me in public but she kept being super strange and sort of lying about meeting in public. She sends me photos of the the hallway she lives in with directions to her door. Super weird vibes, but I was kind of going along with it until she told me to get a key out of her mailbox and go through this apartment complex. At this point I tell her no way, this feels to shady (she wouldn't send good verification photos.) I messed up big time buy using my Line with my face and name. She said she'd post my photo on FB. The really strange part is she is demanding that I come have a session with her. At this point, I offered her like 1000 NTD to not do it, but she keeps pushing for us to actually meet. It is all so fishy. Anyone know what the deal is here?

[Amazake]

Thanks for the tips. I ended up staying in Taoyuan near the train station. The short version: didn't find much, but average looks for a good price. Conversely in Taipei I got not young, but good looking for what was likely far too much money. I blame that partly on bad currency conversion in my head and partly going along with when I felt like I was being scammed. Long version follows.

I looked for Beauty Alley in Taoyuan near the temple but I ended up going the wrong way and finding a few massage places that were either closed or not appealing. It was after midnight so I think most places were already closed. Walked around a bit and on a more main street I found one place with an attractive looking lady in a nice dress lounging on a couch, she saw me stop and look in and got up and ran to the door. Asked her how much and she said 1300. I assumed this was just for the massage but it turned out to include the HJ. She was a little on the chubby side, but allowed full roaming, so I wonder if more might have been on offer. She was disappointed I didn't have Line on my phone, she wanted me to add her so I could teach her english, though her english wasn't too bad already.

The next day I went into Taipei and went to Longshan. Wandered around a little bit and a block away from the night market I saw a very attractive likely-40's spinner in a nice dress. Asked her how much and she said 1000. She didn't speak much english so I wasn't sure if this was just for a massage as it sounded too cheap. She took me into a building hallway with some restaurants, and went into a tiny little room with a small couch in it and a sliding door separating it from the hallway. Then the shakedown began. She stepped out and an old lady came by and offered me a hot towel. Then asked for a tip. My girl game back and said to give her 300 NTD. I did. Then she asks me for 2000 more for HJ. I agree. She starts giving me a little bit of a shoulder massage, then starts rubbing my crotch and asks what I want. I say FS and we agree on 5000 total and she moves the table to block the door. We play around a little bit for a minute or two, then when I try to make a move she stops me and says "not here" and points up. Then she asks me for 2000 more for the room. I give it to her, she takes the money, comes back after a minute and takes me upstairs to an apartment. She gives me a quick shower then we move to the bed. She takes her clothes off and doesn't look quite as good out of the dress as she did in it, but still not bad. She proceeds to fake giving me a BJ using her hand at which point I think I'm getting scammed. After a minute or two of this, she puts on a condom and we proceed to real FS. No scam after all, except on price. Afterwards she complements me on my size and asks if I want to go again. I said no, afraid she would ask for more money. Not that I had the energy after getting busy in an un-airconditioned apartment in 30 C+ weather. She told me she was from Taiwan and she spoke Mandarin with a Taiwanese accent so it may have been true. She gave me her WeChat and I paid her the agreed amount, and she asked me for another 1000 for a tip which I gave her since I was headed for the airport next and didn't need cash anymore. Total damage 9000. Probably won't contact her again as I'm sure I can do better for the money. On the way out she took me out an alley which was full of girls waiting by doorways, some of whom were much younger and arguably more attractive. Guess I know where to go next time.

I am assuming that the 9000 was spent in and around the Huaxi tea rooms? And not the Kangding / Xichang area?

Unfortunately, because of your first-time status, they were able to run their racket. In my first outings in the Huaxi tea rooms, I was targeted and relieved of my cash also.

But, for next time, in either the location, the prettiest young girl never exceeds 2000. And, Huaxi can be had oftentimes for 1 K, and the the happy average for almost everyone is 1500.

But, how were you to know? And, you did better in the Taoyuan area by the temple. There, also 2 K is tops. Taiwan street action is between 1000 to 2000, because of the brevity of the affair.

Cheers to you, you ventured into a new territory, felt your way around, and hopefully you'll be back, being a seasoned veteran, maneuvering around more easily, and get the fair going rate.

Many Blessings, and thank you for your contribution.

[Bob Jr Dobbs]

Your chances during the day in Longshan are possibly better than at night, between the Kangding area and the Huaxi Market. You will do just fine.

An alternative is The Beauty Alley area in Taoyuan. But, it has seen better days. But, maybe closer to the airport. It is close to the Taoyuan train station.

Thanks for the tips. I ended up staying in Taoyuan near the train station. The short version: didn't find much, but average looks for a good price. Conversely in Taipei I got not young, but good looking for what was likely far too much money. I blame that partly on bad currency conversion in my head and partly going along with when I felt like I was being scammed. Long version follows.

I looked for Beauty Alley in Taoyuan near the temple but I ended up going the wrong way and finding a few massage places that were either closed or not appealing. It was after midnight so I think most places were already closed. Walked around a bit and on a more main street I found one place with an attractive looking lady in a nice dress lounging on a couch, she saw me stop and look in and got up and ran to the door. Asked her how much and she said 1300. I assumed this was just for the massage but it turned out to include the HJ. She was a little on the chubby side, but allowed full roaming, so I wonder if more might have been on offer. She was disappointed I didn't have Line on my phone, she wanted me to add her so I could teach her english, though her english wasn't too bad already.

The next day I went into Taipei and went to Longshan. Wandered around a little bit and a block away from the night market I saw a very attractive likely-40's spinner in a nice dress. Asked her how much and she said 1000. She didn't speak much english so I wasn't sure if this was just for a massage as it sounded too cheap. She took me into a building hallway with some restaurants, and went into a tiny little room with a small couch in it and a sliding door separating it from the hallway. Then the shakedown began. She stepped out and an old lady came by and offered me a hot towel. Then asked for a tip. My girl game back and said to give her 300 NTD. I did. Then she asks me for 2000 more for HJ. I agree. She starts giving me a little bit of a shoulder massage, then starts rubbing my crotch and asks what I want. I say FS and we agree on 5000 total and she moves the table to block the door. We play around a little bit for a minute or two, then when I try to make a move she stops me and says "not here" and points up. Then she asks me for 2000 more for the room. I give it to her, she takes the money, comes back after a minute and takes me upstairs to an apartment. She gives me a quick shower then we move to the bed. She takes her clothes off and doesn't look quite as good out of the dress as she did in it, but still not bad. She proceeds to fake giving me a BJ using her hand at which point I think I'm getting scammed. After a minute or two of this, she puts on a condom and we proceed to real FS. No scam after all, except on price. Afterwards she complements me on my size and asks if I want to go again. I said no, afraid she would ask for more money. Not that I had the energy after getting busy in an un-airconditioned apartment in 30 C+ weather. She told me she was from Taiwan and she spoke Mandarin with a Taiwanese accent so it may have been true. She gave me her WeChat and I paid her the agreed amount, and she asked me for another 1000 for a tip which I gave her since I was headed for the airport next and didn't need cash anymore. Total damage 9000. Probably won't contact her again as I'm sure I can do better for the money. On the way out she took me out an alley which was full of girls waiting by doorways, some of whom were much younger and arguably more attractive. Guess I know where to go next time.