American Politics

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOUojVd6xQ

[EihTooms]

For those who are not satisfied with their Repub, Third Party and Bothsider / Neithsider voting patterns merely producing mounting giant, unsustainable Repub economic and stewardship deficits every time, perhaps you can take solace in the knowledge that your beloved congressional Repubs also just voted unanimously to surge ahead in their Repub mission to outlaw Sex For Pleasure and only permit sex for the purpose of procreation:

New House Speaker Once Blamed Abortions for Social Security, Medicare Cuts.
Mike Johnson tried to justify Republican cuts to the social safety net in the most inane way.

https://newrepublic.com/post/176437/...-medicare-cuts

Johnson has also co-sponsored at least three bills hoping to ban abortion at a nationwide level, including (see the list)

So, then you think, "Whew! At least those Bible-thumping Repubs crawling into my private life at every turn are not targeting the anal and oral sex pleasures I enjoy with my wife or girlfriend and, hey, those activities don't make babies we don't want to have and be saddled with supporting for the next 18 years"!

Think again:

https://abc7ny.com/how-new-house-spe...-gay/13972396/

"There is clearly no 'right to sodomy' in the Constitution," Johnson wrote in a 2003 column in a Louisiana newspaper. "And the right of 'privacy of the home' has never placed all activity with the home outside the bounds of the criminal law."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sodomy

sodomy
noun
sod​omy ˈs-də-mē
1
: anal or oral copulation with another person.

No word yet on the Repub Party's legislative mission regarding masturbation. But stay tuned. I'm sure they are not happy about that activity not creating babies and expanding a low wage labor pool to make their wealthy political donors even wealthier.

[EihTooms]

It turns out if it were not for typically horrific Repub economic stewardship ushering in "normal seeming" Repub GWBush's Great Recession, "obvious lunatic" Repub Trump's Trump's Pandemic and both of their beloved favorite Repub tax cuts for billionaires, we would not today have an economy with deficts far outpacing a growing economy and, yep, relatively lower spending.

Gee, who would have guessed that would happen? I mean, aside from the CBO and everyone who has voted Dem straight down their ballot in every election since at least 2000.

$10 Trillion In Added US Debt Since 2001 Shows 'Bush and Trump Tax Cuts Broke Our Modern Tax Structure'.
"In their blind loyalty to their mega-donors, Republicans' fixation on giant tax cuts for billionaires has created a revenue problem that is driving up our national debt," said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse in response to new Treasury Department figures.
Oct. 21, 2023

https://www.commondreams.org/news/tr...owing-deficits

"We have a revenue problem, due to tax cuts," said Kogan, pointing to the major tax laws enacted under the administrations of George W. Bush and Donald Trump. "The Bush and Trump tax cuts broke our modern tax structure. Revenue is significantly lower and no longer grows much with the economy."

(See chart)

"The point I want to make again and again and again is that, relative to the last time CBO was projecting stable debt/GDP, spending is down, not up," Kogan said in a tweet Friday night. "It's lower revenue that's 100% responsible for the change in debt projections. If you take away nothing else, leave with this point."

[Tiny 12]

Dear Marquis and Tooms,

The two of you appeared to be at each others throats again. I'm happy to have brought you back together and back into agreement, through your shared disgust for bothsiders, neithersiders, and of course Republicans who don't like Trump. Republicans like Kick Ass American Hero Mitt Romney.

Please carry on.

Best wishes,

Tiny

P.S. Marquis you are woefully ignorant of how plural marriage works among offshoots of the Mormon Church. The idea that Romney would invite fellow Mormon Jeff Flake and heathen Justin Amash to join him in a commune where the only woman is Liz Cheney is ridiculous. The whole point of the religion is to provide multiple fecund, young attractive women for the older male patriarchs of the church. Some kind of polyamorous marriage among those four wont cut it. Even with lots of lubricant for Liz.

[MarquisdeSade1]

My God. MittWitt was an adult, older man. Supposedly educated. How the fuck could he have so totally missed the blatantly obvious signs and irrefutable evidence for where his Repub Party was headed going back to at least Reagan's first term as so-called president, that his nurturing, grooming and indulging his Party's America-hating lunacy was as much if not more of a contributing factor in America and the world suffering the devastation of Republican Trumpism as anything any virulent sworn enemy or coalition of sworn enemies of America could manage to contribute?

New book Romney: A Reckoning explores fraught relationship with his own party.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ne...-his-own-party

"kind of".

"sort of".

LOL. Yeah, good ol' kick ass "normal" Republican MittWitt Romney is brilliant. If "brilliant" is a substitute word for spectacularly oblivious, cowardly, wrong-headed, dangerously stupid and demonstrably anti-American and unpatriotic in Repub-Speak, that is.

Mitt aka the politician that neither party wants anything to do with.

I suggest he start a commune in rural northern Mexico like his ancestors.

He can invite all the turds Jeff Flake Justin Amash and Liz Cheney et al.

[Tiny 12]

Oops! I must have really struck a nerve, for you to start call me names!

Epithets at your fellow ISG Brethren? REALLY? Are your arguments to the debates/discussions really that weak, they cannot stand on the their own strength and merits, you feel the need to call others names?

BTW, when did you become so petty, by descending into spurious and scurrilous, "name calling"?

A bit outta character methinks. Is this you exploring new uncharted ISG waters of pettiness, in light of the recent Republican clown show in DC, has emboldened you to cast such dispersions, on your ISG brethren?

Or perhaps it's ALL your recent "monkey-talk", that has you engaging in "low-hanging fruit" behavior, such as name calling (directed at your ISG brethren), as a way for you to test the waters of jocularity?

You know for some reason I keep telling myself, Tiny 12, is better than that..surely? Or perhaps it's just another series, of dashed hopes of ever finding a "good Republican"?

"I Know you are, but what am I?" Is that where we're at now?:

Kudos, as I did get a momentary chuckle, from your childish, juvenile, sophomoric and lame-ass attempt, at making fun w/r to my ISG moniker.

But you know what? ISGers and BMs, who are the first, to make fun out of other ISGer's monikers, always amaze me, at the shear "clown" like behavior of it all. Which is as it happens is, very ON BRAND for most REPUBLICANS! So maybe the "clown shoe" fits after all?

But What's REALLY FUNNY, is them (you) not realizing their very own ISG moniker, can often become an even bigger cause for ridicule. Literally the joke is on them! (...kkkk!).

The fact is, that when you have an ISG moniker like "Tiny" or "Tiny 12", the comedy, ridicule and the jokes just write themselves. Considering the fact, that you're posting on a mongering forum and knowingly singing up with the moniker "Tiny", is just rife for all kinds of satire, comedy, mockery and double entendres, galore...up the wazoo!

So Tiny 12, if you REALLY and TRULY wish to go down that rabbit hole, I couldn't have asked for a better punchline than your "Tiny 12" ISG moniker, to work with....kkkk!


PS: I'll circle-back to address the real issue, in your post, later!

Man you guys can be a sensitive and humorless bunch at time. I am not making fun of your moniker. A Spider Monkey is far more advanced than a Spider. I gave you a promotion of about 350 million years on the evolutionary ladder. You are welcome by the way to call me something like Massive Throbbing Tiny Penis Head. I'd wear that as a badge of honor. And a touch of sadness as it calls to mind former board member Dickhead, may he RIP.

I have simply been titling my posts with something to do with monkeys to see if you'd follow through with your vow not to participate in monkey discussions. Well now that you've broken your vow at least twice, there's no point in continuing the experiment. So I'll stop.

And youve called me a lot worse, like a clown in your last post. Spider Monkey is not perjorative, or at least I didnt mean it to be.

[Spidy]

For Spider Monkey

Oops! I must have really struck a nerve, for you to start call me names!

Epithets at your fellow ISG Brethren? REALLY? Are your arguments to the debates/discussions really that weak, they cannot stand on the their own strength and merits, you feel the need to call others names?

BTW, when did you become so petty, by descending into spurious and scurrilous, "name calling"?

A bit outta character methinks. Is this you exploring new uncharted ISG waters of pettiness, in light of the recent Republican clown show in DC, has emboldened you to cast such dispersions, on your ISG brethren?

Or perhaps it's ALL your recent "monkey-talk", that has you engaging in "low-hanging fruit" behavior, such as name calling (directed at your ISG brethren), as a way for you to test the waters of jocularity?

You know for some reason I keep telling myself, Tiny 12, is better than that..surely? Or perhaps it's just another series, of dashed hopes of ever finding a "good Republican"?

"I Know you are, but what am I?" Is that where we're at now?:

Kudos, as I did get a momentary chuckle, from your childish, juvenile, sophomoric and lame-ass attempt, at making fun w/r to my ISG moniker.

But you know what? ISGers and BMs, who are the first, to make fun out of other ISGer's monikers, always amaze me, at the shear "clown" like behavior of it all. Which is as it happens is, very ON BRAND for most REPUBLICANS! So maybe the "clown shoe" fits after all?

But What's REALLY FUNNY, is them (you) not realizing their very own ISG moniker, can often become an even bigger cause for ridicule. Literally the joke is on them! (...kkkk!).

The fact is, that when you have an ISG moniker like "Tiny" or "Tiny 12", the comedy, ridicule and the jokes just write themselves. Considering the fact, that you're posting on a mongering forum and knowingly singing up with the moniker "Tiny", is just rife for all kinds of satire, comedy, mockery and double entendres, galore...up the wazoo!

So Tiny 12, if you REALLY and TRULY wish to go down that rabbit hole, I couldn't have asked for a better punchline than your "Tiny 12" ISG moniker, to work with....kkkk!


PS: I'll circle-back to address the real issue, in your post, later!

[MarquisdeSade1]

https://www.aol.com/news/pope-accept...130448292.html

[EihTooms]

My God. MittWitt was an adult, older man. Supposedly educated. How the fuck could he have so totally missed the blatantly obvious signs and irrefutable evidence for where his Repub Party was headed going back to at least Reagan's first term as so-called president, that his nurturing, grooming and indulging his Party's America-hating lunacy was as much if not more of a contributing factor in America and the world suffering the devastation of Republican Trumpism as anything any virulent sworn enemy or coalition of sworn enemies of America could manage to contribute?

New book Romney: A Reckoning explores fraught relationship with his own party.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ne...-his-own-party

From his authorized biographer:

"And I think that he does have a lot of regret about not just how he indulged Trump and kind of the MAGA wing of the party, but, more broadly, how he indulged some of the more toxic elements of his party when he was trying to pursue the presidency.

A lot of the story of this book is those extremist forces in the party that, over the years, especially recently, kind of took over the party, and they realized that it wasn't possible to just sort of flirt with them and then keep them at arm's length."

"kind of".

"sort of".

LOL. Yeah, good ol' kick ass "normal" Republican MittWitt Romney is brilliant. If "brilliant" is a substitute word for spectacularly oblivious, cowardly, wrong-headed, dangerously stupid and demonstrably anti-American and unpatriotic in Repub-Speak, that is.

[EihTooms]

"Then you had a lot of ignorant boobs for professors. Which shouldn't surprise anyone. That bit about poor widdle Tricky Dicky being cheated out of the opportunity to start his Failed, Humiliating and Crooked Presidential Term in 1961 instead of 1969 has been roundly debunked for decades.

Meanwhile, you can relax about whether or not your beloved Repubs have been given enough chances to destroy the very concept of America and democracy.

They have.

At this point no sane, intelligent democratic ally of America would dare engage in a meaningful economic / peace treaty or agreement with America since your beloved Repubs have made it abundantly clear that due to the probable fatal circumstances of the pro Repub-rigged Electoral College system, extreme gerrymandering House districts, the existence of POTUS term limits and that each state gets 2 Senators regardless of its population, there is a very good chance that every 2-4 years America's economy, which ultimately means the Global Economy really, national security and foreign policy will be controlled by at least a 33%, 66% or 100% degree, all potentially disastrous, degrees anyway, by a cult of total America-hating, democracy-hating, economic growth and jobs creation-hating Repub numbskulls who would just as soon blab any and every top secret detail of national security intel and international security intel that any of our allies was foolish enough to share with us to any tinpot dictator or wannabe worldwide dictator or terrorist organization who walks into their office as they'd offer them an orangutan hand-picked banana.

No serious nation can afford to take that chance with America anymore. Trump, his fellow Repubs and anyone who has not voted Dem straight down every legit ballot in every election since, oh, 1996 but most certainly since 2000, has seen to it and made it so.

Thank you for your vote.

The most Biden and the Dems can do about it now is try to salvage whatever is left of America and democracy that Trump, his Repubs and non Dem-voters have not yet taken a huge, wet, diarrhea crap all over yet. Which isn't much. But at least it is something. ".

From the rabidly Trump hating editor of the rabidly Trump hating National Review rag.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/...utm_term=third

Oh, I am with you and Tiny in not wanting your lord and savior Most Perfect Republican Party Leader Ever, Donald J. Trump, gagged.

That has always been my position. His poll numbers AND his election prospects are always reduced the more he talks and the more Americans hear him talk.

That is a very good thing for America.

Sure, his trial-related blather, lies and rants can and probably will get some court personnel, potential jurors, witnesses and so on threatened, shot at, beaten, maimed and killed, which is his goal. But, hey, "casualties of war". They are unfortunate sacrificial lambs for the greater good of more potential voters being made aware of Trump's blatantly obvious lack of fitness for any job of importance.

In fact, I suspected and accused Twitter, Facebook and MSM outlets of providing Trump with an unfair, extremely pro Repub electoral advantage back when they banned his posts or refused to quote any and every astonishingly stupid thing that came out of his diseased brain.

That is how much I am against him being gagged.

LOL. Even he knows his chances of getting elected so he can return to shitting all over the Constitution, destroying the USA economy and national security, replacing democracy at home and abroad with authoritarian dictatorships and saving his financial ass are improved if he does NOT show up for televised debates or testify anywhere under oath where the product of his Perfect and True Republican diseased brain would be heard by more people.

[Tiny 12]

"Trump and his merry band of election-denying RINOS can't control the Presidency, House or Senate on their own. They're only 1/3rd of the voting population. You cast people like me into the wilderness and you're looking at one party rule at the federal level. By increasingly progressive Democrats. It won't be a pretty picture.

Mitt Romney kicks ass, except he's a neocon. So does Jeff Flake. Justin Amash kicks double ass. Donald Trump should be kicked the hell out of the Republican Party. I liked some of his policies a lot, and I've given him credit for them, here and elsewhere. But he tried to overturn over 200 years of American democracy. ".

They did it in 1960 and 2020 both Catholic Democrats.

You're in favor of that.

Mitt Romney licks HIV dripping ass.

So does Jeff Flake.

Justin Amash loves sticking his tongue in and out sooper sooper deep.

BTW where are they know, they are anti American like you and ET.

So the American people booted them out like they did ET, you're next bro.

You are anti democracy, if you are a Libertarian you are anti American people.

You prefer oligarchs select the president.

You only say he tried? Bullshit.

Thats projection, plain and simple and you know it.

You want to set up the same line of Democratic lies for Nov 2024.

Because you don't like Trumps anti slave labor policies.

So you don't want him to win a 3rd time.

And when he does.

You're going to try to overthrow democracy again.

Where was democracy in 1960?

Every liberal Professor I ever had conceded Kennedy cheated.

Every one knows they cheated Trump and the American people.

And I'm guessing they will try to repeat the same thing in 2024.

Thats why Dirty Joe doesn't want to leave.

He probably thinks he can lock himself in his basement and be "declared" winner again.

Easy peasy rinse and repeat 2020.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/h...on-was-rigged/".

https://amgreatness.com/2023/10/23/g...-to-democracy/

https://amgreatness.com/2023/10/24/s...can-democracy/

Please don't stop. That deserves reposting hundreds of times.

And by the way I don't think Trump should be gagged. And I wouldn't put him in jail for his crimes if I were his "judge, jury and executioner. " I'd just confine him to Mar a Lago with an ankle bracelet for a while. That would be a pleasant place to pass time.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Trump and his merry band of election-denying RINOS can't control the Presidency, House or Senate on their own. They're only 1/3rd of the voting population. You cast people like me into the wilderness and you're looking at one party rule at the federal level. By increasingly progressive Democrats. It won't be a pretty picture.

Mitt Romney kicks ass, except he's a neocon. So does Jeff Flake. Justin Amash kicks double ass. Donald Trump should be kicked the hell out of the Republican Party. I liked some of his policies a lot, and I've given him credit for them, here and elsewhere. But he tried to overturn over 200 years of American democracy. ".

They did it in 1960 and 2020 both Catholic Democrats.

You're in favor of that.

Mitt Romney licks HIV dripping ass.

So does Jeff Flake.

Justin Amash loves sticking his tongue in and out sooper sooper deep.

BTW where are they know, they are anti American like you and ET.

So the American people booted them out like they did ET, you're next bro.

You are anti democracy, if you are a Libertarian you are anti American people.

You prefer oligarchs select the president.

You only say he tried? Bullshit.

Thats projection, plain and simple and you know it.

You want to set up the same line of Democratic lies for Nov 2024.

Because you don't like Trumps anti slave labor policies.

So you don't want him to win a 3rd time.

And when he does.

You're going to try to overthrow democracy again.

Where was democracy in 1960?

Every liberal Professor I ever had conceded Kennedy cheated.

Every one knows they cheated Trump and the American people.

And I'm guessing they will try to repeat the same thing in 2024.

Thats why Dirty Joe doesn't want to leave.

He probably thinks he can lock himself in his basement and be "declared" winner again.

Easy peasy rinse and repeat 2020.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/h...on-was-rigged/".

https://amgreatness.com/2023/10/23/g...-to-democracy/

https://amgreatness.com/2023/10/24/s...can-democracy/

[Tiny 12]

Full disclosure: Actually they say the database is not comprehensive or exhaustive.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"False, at least for 2020. I don't know about 1960. Biden got 74 more electoral votes and 7 million more popular votes. Please use common sense. It would have required massive voting fraud on the part of Democrats in multiple states to have pulled that off. Many would have been caught, prosecuted and convicted if they participated in that. And what kind of idiot would risk going to jail to help elect Joe Biden? Take a look at the Heritage database of election faud.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

The last time I looked at it, yes, the majority of the egregious violations, where I could identify the party of the violator, were committed by Democrats. But they were doing it to help themselves or their buddies in local election. They weren't doing it for Joe Biden.

False.

Probably false. Links please?

False.

False. Nobody booted Tooms. Nobody's going to boot me. If I leave, it will be of my own accord, because America became a one party state at the federal level, dominated by Democrats. Trump and his enablers are doing their best to make this happen.

False. The majority of the founders of the USA were libertarian in outlook. Anti-libertarians are the way they are because they suck from the government tit and / or want government to tell people what they can and can't do in their private lives. Anti-libertarians support criminalization of prostitution.

False.

Incomprehensible.

False. And ridiculous. I'm better off under a Trump presidency than a Biden presidency, especially if Democrats control the House and Senate. I have no problem with decent minimum wages provided they're set by states and cities instead of the federal government. Trump has hired undocumented workers and paid them slave wages.

I'm going to try to overthrow democracy? By doing what? Voting for a libertarian? False and doubly ridiculous. Please direct your vitriol at politicians and others who actually have some kind of influence.

Possibly True. I don't know enough to really comment. I do know the election was close, and think Richard Daley, and possibly George Parr and others cheated on Kennedy's behalf.

False. ".

Anti-libertarians are the way they are because they suck from the government tit and / or want government to tell people what they can and can't do in their private lives.

The Libertarian model is to take as much from society and give as little back in return as possible, exploit everything and everyone 10000% to the max.

Including the govt, extract as many benefits from the commons and threaten holy hell, when April 15 rolls around each year, then just lie cheat and steal.

From the American people again and pay as little as possible if not $0.

How? Most every single Libertarian I've ever known owns their own small business and doesn't pay income tax or any business tax.

They receive more benefit from the govt than anyone and yet theyre constantly bitching and complaining about taxes for roads and schools.

While they wave their made by CCP slave labor American flag.

And drive around with their "don't tread on me " bumper stickers.

They are as anti American as they come.

Mitt Romney Jeff Flake Justin Amash Liz (Dick in drag) Cheney fluffers the whole lot of them.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Trump and his merry band of election-denying RINOS can't control the Presidency, House or Senate on their own. They're only 1/3rd of the voting population. You cast people like me into the wilderness and you're looking at one party rule at the federal level. By increasingly progressive Democrats. It won't be a pretty picture.

Mitt Romney kicks ass, except he's a neocon. So does Jeff Flake. Justin Amash kicks double ass. Donald Trump should be kicked the hell out of the Republican Party. I liked some of his policies a lot, and I've given him credit for them, here and elsewhere. But he tried to overturn over 200 years of American democracy. ".

But I'm guessing you're ok with it.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/...utm_term=third

Your faux outrage is silly.