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  1. #14384
    Quote Originally Posted by Rodneey  [View Original Post]
    Despite no action and almost getting scammed out of 200 RMB the last time (see post #14351), I thought I would try P4 P on TG again. After a hell of a lot of browsing and dead ends, I found a profile that seemed a little bit too good to be true, but I thought I'd try it anyway. The pics were pretty hot, and she was advertising at just 600 RMB for 1 pop. So I thought, for that price, what the hell, why not go and check it out.

    Found the place fairly easily with her instructions. Small studio on 4th floor in a big building on a main road, so fortunately no walking through some crappy compound with old people staring at me. As I walked in she was a bit shocked to see a foreigner. I had already checked to she if she accepted laowai and she said yes, which was when I realized that I had probably been chatting to an agent beforehand and not the gal herself (typical Telegram move). Plus, although she was quite pretty and young (early 20's), it wasn't the same gal in the TG profile (another typical TG move). Anyway she agreed to go once, and I gave her the cash first. I didn't take a full shower, she just quickly washed my cock with some shampoo, dried me, then onto the bed. I got on face down but she said no, lie on your back, so there was no warm up play, massage etc. I was of course still soft at this point but nevertheless she starts a BBBJ and I slowly start to wake up down there. Once hard, she grabs the condom straight away and puts it on, but it's a small Chinese one and it's too tight and painful. I told her I had a bigger one in my bag, so we used that one instead. So she got on top and proceeded to ride me as fast as she could so she could get it over with. I kept asking her to slow down but she wouldn't. It was the first time she's ever been with a laowai, saying she wasn't used to the large size, so I guess she wasn't totally relaxed. She wasn't slowing down, so I was done after a few short minutes, took another shower and got changed.

    So all in all, service was far too short and not very satisfying despite the BBBJ and FS. But I guess for just 600 RMB, you get what you pay for. Won't repeat, but will probably jump on TG again and try my luck with another soon.
    Thanks for sharing the experience. I read your previous post as well. From my experience, anything involves prepay is a scam, period! I too have painful experience, although not too much money lost.

    I haven't tried TG myself. I have poked around. Girls look too good to be true so I will take it they are all fake pictures. TG is not available without vpn, 99.99% of the WGs don't even know what vpn is so chances are you are talking to an agent. At least you got a real girl, although experience didn't sound too good.

    Curious if anyone actually had a good experience from TG.

  2. #14383
    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona123  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys, old member here.

    Read through several pages of recent posts, seems like reviews and field reports are a thing of the past. Are there any independents that you guys are seeing and willing to share? I know there's the Shanghai Nightlife website, but I'm interested in real indy's rather than go through an agency. Please share or PM me if you have any regulars to share.
    Maybe the regular posters got tired of giving out addresses and resources that they had spent a lot of time, risk, and effort to find, to anonymous dudes on the internet who contribute nothing and make no effort, just a thought.

  3. #14382

    Navigating the TG minefield. Episode 2

    Despite no action and almost getting scammed out of 200 RMB the last time (see post #14351), I thought I would try P4 P on TG again. After a hell of a lot of browsing and dead ends, I found a profile that seemed a little bit too good to be true, but I thought I'd try it anyway. The pics were pretty hot, and she was advertising at just 600 RMB for 1 pop. So I thought, for that price, what the hell, why not go and check it out.

    Found the place fairly easily with her instructions. Small studio on 4th floor in a big building on a main road, so fortunately no walking through some crappy compound with old people staring at me. As I walked in she was a bit shocked to see a foreigner. I had already checked to she if she accepted laowai and she said yes, which was when I realized that I had probably been chatting to an agent beforehand and not the gal herself (typical Telegram move). Plus, although she was quite pretty and young (early 20's), it wasn't the same gal in the TG profile (another typical TG move). Anyway she agreed to go once, and I gave her the cash first. I didn't take a full shower, she just quickly washed my cock with some shampoo, dried me, then onto the bed. I got on face down but she said no, lie on your back, so there was no warm up play, massage etc. I was of course still soft at this point but nevertheless she starts a BBBJ and I slowly start to wake up down there. Once hard, she grabs the condom straight away and puts it on, but it's a small Chinese one and it's too tight and painful. I told her I had a bigger one in my bag, so we used that one instead. So she got on top and proceeded to ride me as fast as she could so she could get it over with. I kept asking her to slow down but she wouldn't. It was the first time she's ever been with a laowai, saying she wasn't used to the large size, so I guess she wasn't totally relaxed. She wasn't slowing down, so I was done after a few short minutes, took another shower and got changed.

    So all in all, service was far too short and not very satisfying despite the BBBJ and FS. But I guess for just 600 RMB, you get what you pay for. Won't repeat, but will probably jump on TG again and try my luck with another soon.

  4. #14381

    Independents

    Hey guys, old member here.

    Read through several pages of recent posts, seems like reviews and field reports are a thing of the past. Are there any independents that you guys are seeing and willing to share? I know there's the Shanghai Nightlife website, but I'm interested in real indy's rather than go through an agency. Please share or PM me if you have any regulars to share.

  5. #14380

    One more nice massage

    After my nice experience at Judy's thought I added another nice massage.

    Kungbao Massage near Bellagios in Hongqiao area.

    Went for full body oil when a guy showed up. Asked for a lady, preferably #26. I was lucky, just like 4 weeks ago, my favourite masseuse.

    Absolutely great and professional massage, plus her great way of making you so horny before flipping over. Like last time - 300 RMB additional for topless HJ.
    After relieving Big John another 15min of massage. Wonderful.

    She has beautiful tits BTW.

  6. #14379

    JUDY's

    Thanks for the explanation.

    VN. Vietnames - is what I found yesterday evening at JUDY's.

    Tried it out at the new location. Pretty well visited, not too crowded, good DJ, good Beer.

    Lot's of chinese guys, just a few westerners. Lot's of girls, most probably most of the VN. .

    Every 5 minutes one of them approaches you, you have a few friendly words with her, waiter will ask you if you would like to spend her a dring. Accepts a friendly „No, not at this time" immediately.

    Just stay friendly and if the girl is not what you are looking for, just tell her that you will have another beer alone and she will leave.

    Met a heartedly smiling VN girl named „Lyn". Chatted with her for a few minutes, spend her a beer, asked for the cheque. She „offered" 3 K for the whole night, I told her 2 K and it was agreed. Called a cab with Didi, back to the hotel.

    Hot tub, red wine, wonderful massage, DATY, BBJ, then she asked for the condom. Great sex, althouhg with her and my size (191 vs 150 cm) and being well equipped, it must have been pretty „deep" for her.)) But I always try to be a gentleman.

    GFE all night, at 3 am she woke me up by rubbing Big John, we went for round 3, laughing about waking up the rest of the hotel-floor.

    In the morning called her a taxi, exchanged number and WeChat-name.

    All in all - 2 K for a wonderful night.

  7. #14378
    Quote Originally Posted by XAlexX  [View Original Post]
    Please enlighten me regarding the abbreviations "VN. Girls" and "advertised on TG". Thanks.

    Hope my report on MP in Hongqiao area will be released soon.

    More to come after my 2 days stay in Shanghai. .
    Look forward to your full report. Make sure you mention total price and service time in the places you visited.

    VN is Vietnamese, and TG is the Telegram app, which, despite needing a VPN, the Chinese have been using it for mongering (or 'driving' as they call it, lol) for at least a couple of years now. It's useful for finding naughty MPs and freelancers, but you have to put the work in (everything is in Chinese) and know how to detect the fake stuff, scams, etc. It's probably a bit too much to navigate for someone who's only here for a couple of nights.

    You're right that Shanghai has changed a lot in the last few years, but there's still plenty of fun to be had, things just work more discretely these days.

  8. #14377

    Vietnamese

    Quote Originally Posted by XAlexX  [View Original Post]
    Please enlighten me regarding the abbreviations "VN. Girls" and "advertised on TG". Thanks.

    Hope my report on MP in Hongqiao area will be released soon.

    More to come after my 2 days stay in Shanghai. .
    VN girls would be Vietnamese, not sure what TG is.

  9. #14376

    Abbreviations.

    Please enlighten me regarding the abbreviations "VN. Girls" and "advertised on TG". Thanks.

    Hope my report on MP in Hongqiao area will be released soon.

    More to come after my 2 days stay in Shanghai. .

  10. #14375

    Massage parlor Hongqiao

    Back to Shanghai again after 5 years.

    Found a completely different city. Not what it used to be.

    MP in Hongqiao area, not far away from Bellagio restaurant. 2 MP in the same building, tried one.

    Looked absolutely serious, nothing promising beyond a regular massage. Expensive compared to pre-covid, but still a very good massage.

    And. Traraaa! - like in the old times, not long until she started working on Big John. Usual negotiating, settled for a fair price and received a great HJ with her being topless.

    Came back the next day, same great relief.

    But still, Shanghai is not what it was famous for anymore.

  11. #14374

    A pleasant reunion

    The last time I saw my VN favourite was before the outbreak of Covid. We did keep in touch over the last (3 !) years and when I travelled again to China she was really excited. She did find out that J and M were not the same as before and the number of girls from VN was small compared to pre-corona. So little incentive for her to go again. But now it was different. She arrived a day before me and stayed with some friends (probably the be&be she had stayed at before. When I arrived I contacted her and she came right away, she checked in my hotel with 2 suitcases. Her plan was to stay with me for 5 days, as I travelled on, she would try Judys again.

    When we met again it was the usual fireworks, and it took her 1 hour to take me over the rainbow. The following days, I would work in day time, she would stay at my hotel room, do some shopping and work-out. We would have dinner in the evening and some culture over the weekend. Making love every night, yes. She was really insatiable, after I came, she always wanted more and more. Some good variations, I love to do the DATY on her, she likes to swallow my load. We took a trip to Greek islands a few times and, since we have known each other for so long, it was all barebacking.

    The deal was: I paid her return ticket and visa, and the usual amount for an all-nighter that we agreed on before (plus inflation). Frankly, she did not bring any extra payments up during her stay. We like each others company and she has some kind of vacation away from home. After I left, she tried Judys but it was not the same anymore, she did not like the customers and she is certainly not the youngest in the crowd. Maybe a repeat the coming year, expensive but worth the effort.

  12. #14373

    Jenny from Judys

    Visited Shanghai a few weeks ago. Judys, in the new location is ok, but misses the old vibe. Lots of Chinese guys sitting / smoking / drinking at tables. Mostly VN girls who will join them and will get a few 100 RMB just for sitting and being nice. Asking about it: most girls don't speak Chinese and the guys don't speak English. I met a nice VN girl, in her 30's, which is fine for me, with some decent English. 2000 RMB for 2 hours. We met the next day in my hotel, I try to avoid the walk of shame at mid night. She was a not a repeat girl: looks were ok, lot of tattoos, hard Botox lips and the push-up bra really did a nice job. In bed she was too fast, trying to get me off a. S. a. P. And too agressive for nice & tender love making. So Jenny from Judys might have a click with other guys, not with me.

  13. #14372

    Annie Massage

    Quote Originally Posted by WetRabbit  [View Original Post]
    Hello, does anyone had some experience with this massage center?
    I tried her out recently, and while the price is high can say that she gave me my first real full prostate orgasm, and it was really amazing. She has an apartment and studio, but prefers the apartment. She's also friends with Susan Massage that has similar service and pricing. Despite the cost, recommended.

  14. #14371
    Quote Originally Posted by Rodneey  [View Original Post]
    No, not heard of it. Out of curiosity I just checked her web site, and those prices are pretty high. Smart move for her to target foreigners doing quick searches on Google, and to set up a nice professional web site all in English. I don't think locals would accept those prices.
    Thank you for your reply. In fact the price looks high, especially from where I currently live in China.

    Anyway, does someone have some news / suggestions about the red street in Hongqiao Rd? Are there some safe and right nice place to enjoy P4P?

  15. #14370
    Quote Originally Posted by WetRabbit  [View Original Post]
    Hello, does anyone had some experience with this massage center?
    No, not heard of it. Out of curiosity I just checked her web site, and those prices are pretty high. Smart move for her to target foreigners doing quick searches on Google, and to set up a nice professional web site all in English. I don't think locals would accept those prices.

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