Mombasa

[Slowalk]

I am also confused about this talk about 3+2 meaning 5 months. I have stayed six months or that 180 days now past several years. Then I have left to my own country.

Are you applying yourself on eFNS or are you going to Immigration and having an immigration officer fill out the forms for a "fee"?

[HappyFarang]

Where can I take a girl to have tea in Mtwapa before I invite them to my apartment?

Any decent places?

[HappyFarang]

I should be having my first sexual encounter with an African girl today. I hope it goes smoothly.

Mtwapa is a little intimidating. No white faces. I wanted to buy some food but didn't know where to go.

Also wanted to buy a pair of trousers but same thing.

I am a 20 m walk NE from Posta.

Is 300 kes a good price to go from Mtwapa to Big Tree?

How about 300 kes back from Big Tree at night?

I am trying Tinder now, looks more promising than Tagged. I am just honest and cut the BS, but I don't mention money, I just say that I am not interested in long term. Should money be discussed in advance?

[Leblon]

I read a lot of wrong information here.

And yet again from one of the members with a high standing.

The Kenyan Visa can be extended up to 180 days and not 5 months.

A visa run to the neighbouring countries does not help, except for Ethiopia.

You have to leave the EA community, I. E. Zambia, Ethiopia or Somalia are your closest bets.

And these guys are not stupid. If you do this more than once or twice, the chances that they will start to ask questions is high.

Since they don't like it when you intend to circumvent their immigration rules.

And given that now everything is digitalised, it has become much harder to find a solution with a corrupt official.

I am also confused about this talk about 3+2 meaning 5 months. I have stayed six months or that 180 days now past several years. Then I have left to my own country.

[Slowalk]

5 yr Multiple Entry Visa:

It cost $161. It's not that simple, though.

For Business Visits:

Invitation Letters from company / Invitation letter for business visits / Copies of registration of the company.

For Tourists:

Travel itinerary (Details about places to visit if going as tourist). / Hotel bookings.

How on earth, someone can make hotel bookings for 5 years in advance? Am I missing something here?

https://evisa.go.ke/services/5yrMultipleEntryVisa

I know someone with a 5 year multi entry visa. He didn't make hotel bookings, he rents a compound and uses the agreement. Also, he must follow the same 3 month then apply for free extension as a tourist has to. The difference is he simply returns to KE with his visa. He's somewhat computer illiterate and always travels to UG every 3 months then spends 1 month in UG. He never applies for the extension. It's on a different site (eFNS) than the KE visa (eCitizen).

[Slowalk]

I read a lot of wrong information here.

And yet again from one of the members with a high standing.

The Kenyan Visa can be extended up to 180 days and not 5 months.

A visa run to the neighbouring countries does not help, except for Ethiopia.

You have to leave the EA community, I. E. Zambia, Ethiopia or Somalia are your closest bets.

And these guys are not stupid. If you do this more than once or twice, the chances that they will start to ask questions is high.

Since they don't like it when you intend to circumvent their immigration rules.

And given that now everything is digitalised, it has become much harder to find a solution with a corrupt official.

The only time you need to leave EA is if you have an EA visa and then you can simple go to TZ who is not part of the EA visa community. I posted this already in General Information.

When you request a 3 month extension online, they approve it for 2 month automatically. You print out the approved extension then take it to one of the 7 ish immigration offices around Kenya. Not to the border. You can ask the immigration to stamp you for 3 months but you need a valid reason.

In some immigration offices you can be arrested for offering a bribe.

Kenya Immigration at Land Borders are corrupt. They look for bribes so i come back from TZ with time left to return on my multi entry visa. If you get yourself in a situation where you have no place to return to, Kenyan Immigration may try to shake you down. I’ve never had that problem at all from UG or TZ.

[Neddy69]

Yes, I agree.

Last year I extended my visa online and got 2 months, from the date of application. I needed 3 months, so I went to immigration. There was a woman outside who was doing difficult to let me inside the compound. Seems I needed some other form too, or such nonsense. But after some talk she let me in. Immigration is at the 3rd floor. You can easily miss / overlook it. I talked to the immigration guy there and he changed some stuff on the computer and put a stamp in my passport which gave me a 3 month extension. Gave him kk for his trouble.

No trouble when leaving the country.

Usually the standard extension of the 3 months tourist visa online given is 2 months. You MIGHT get 3 months if you take the trouble to go to immigration yourself. Might. Nobody I know bothers. It's 3+2.

Usually for the K-Permit IF you get it you pay 2 years in advance. You'll not get it for a year. Plus you pay a 100 k deposit in case there's to pay for your deportation flight. So it's 300.000 KES for 2 years. Now the dollar depreciated so it became cheaper in dollar terms. But not cheap.

As for Visa runs. No need. The tariff if you know the right people is 20.000 to 25.000 KES. 3 M+2 M is 5 months. That includes the exit stamp the new eVisa and the new entry stamp. No matter what BS other people write on this forum. That's the way it's is. Believe it or not.

The 5 year tourist visa for US citizens is hard to get and that doesn't allow you to stay 5 years. It's VALID for 5 years. It's also for a maximum stay of 3 months at a time. It's meant for business purposes.

TZ Visa. Tanzania gives VoA for 3 months. You can extend it at Immigration headquarters for a month each up to another 3 months total of 6 months. But. It's at discretion of Immigration. I was lucky I got it 3 times. Don't forget to wear long trousers and dress decently.

As I previously wrote. That's not hearsay. I DID everything myself. Don't worry about Immigration. They always find a loophole to milk the system. IT or not IT. As long as Kenya charges funny money for residents permit the legal illegal Visa game will continue. Karibu Kenya.

Mwalimu.

[AttilaTheHun]

Kenya does a 5 year multiple entry visa for Americans.

5 yr Multiple Entry Visa:

It cost $161. It's not that simple, though.

For Business Visits:

Invitation Letters from company / Invitation letter for business visits / Copies of registration of the company.

For Tourists:

Travel itinerary (Details about places to visit if going as tourist). / Hotel bookings.

How on earth, someone can make hotel bookings for 5 years in advance? Am I missing something here?

https://evisa.go.ke/services/5yrMultipleEntryVisa

[PookyMan]

I read a lot of wrong information here.

And yet again from one of the members with a high standing.

The Kenyan Visa can be extended up to 180 days and not 5 months.

A visa run to the neighbouring countries does not help, except for Ethiopia.

You have to leave the EA community, I. E. Zambia, Ethiopia or Somalia are your closest bets.

And these guys are not stupid. If you do this more than once or twice, the chances that they will start to ask questions is high.

Since they don't like it when you intend to circumvent their immigration rules.

And given that now everything is digitalised, it has become much harder to find a solution with a corrupt official.

Yes, I agree.

Last year I extended my visa online and got 2 months, from the date of application. I needed 3 months, so I went to immigration. There was a woman outside who was doing difficult to let me inside the compound. Seems I needed some other form too, or such nonsense. But after some talk she let me in. Immigration is at the 3rd floor. You can easily miss / overlook it. I talked to the immigration guy there and he changed some stuff on the computer and put a stamp in my passport which gave me a 3 month extension. Gave him kk for his trouble.

No trouble when leaving the country.

[Bajuni]

I read a lot of wrong information here.

And yet again from one of the members with a high standing.

The Kenyan Visa can be extended up to 180 days and not 5 months.

A visa run to the neighbouring countries does not help, except for Ethiopia.

You have to leave the EA community, I. E. Zambia, Ethiopia or Somalia are your closest bets.

And these guys are not stupid. If you do this more than once or twice, the chances that they will start to ask questions is high.

Since they don't like it when you intend to circumvent their immigration rules.

And given that now everything is digitalised, it has become much harder to find a solution with a corrupt official.

[Mombie75]

Kenya does a 5 year multiple entry visa for Americans.

[Slowalk]

I looked up the Retirement Visa. I just copied it from the government site. It's called the Class K: (Ordinary residents)
I just go to Uganda after 3 or 5 months as part of my Visa Run routine then.

For Americans, TZ issues only a 90 D multiple entry visa good for 1 year for $100.

Total cost of visa for 1 year is $152 - $202.

3 M - $51 KE.

2 M. Free KE.

3 M - $100 TZ OR 3 M $50 UG.

3 M - $51 KE.

2 M. Free KE OR 1 M free TZ.

There's travel and housing costs to consider.

[AttilaTheHun]

Be careful. There's fixers and "fixers". I know people paid for a good looking (fake) residence permit 3000 euros. These idiots are the laughing stock on coast. Talk to a knowledgeable old Retiree. Pay him a few beers. Groom your contacts. If he likes you he will spill the beans. Did I ever use a fixer. NO. What for? I do my own due diligence and my own research. And believe me. That takes years. I trust nobody unless proven otherwise. For me it's simple. I have contacts in immigration. No need for a fixer. The whole of Africa is full of (also white) scammers. There's a standard tariff of 20.000 to 25.000 KES. It's perfectly legal illegallity. A stamp alone is not enough. They stamp you out as having virtually left the country. That includes entry in the computer database. New eVisa and new entry stamp. And voil you have another 5 months.

Mwalimu.

I looked up the Retirement Visa. I just copied it from the government site. It's called the Class K: (Ordinary residents) retirement Visa.

"Documentary proof of annual assured income of at least USD 24,000 of own rightful and at free disposal from other sources other than employment, occupation, trade, business, or profession.

Income that is derived from sources outside Kenya remitted as pension or annuity.

Fee: Processing- Kshs. 10,000 non-refundable. Issuance- Kshs. 100,000 per year".

It cost $665 per year plus the $66 processing fee! That's over $730 per year. Maybe better just do the visa runs. "visa for 3 months for $51 then a free extension for 2 more" as per Slowalk.

I just go to Uganda after 3 or 5 months as part of my Visa Run routine then.

[AttilaTheHun]

Forget these Expat life style sites. They just want to make money by selling you information. I'm not an Expat. An Expat is someone who has a cushy job with an NGO Embassy or international Organization or mining company. They make 100.000 Dollar plus a year. They typically don't know fuck ALL about the country they live in. They re paying typically a couple of 1000 dollars in rent alone. They also have ZERO clue how to obtain a residence permit. Why? The organization fixes everything for them. They live in a parallel universe. If you want to know what's going on talk to real residents or retirees who are married and live since decades there. They're the best source of information.

Mwalimu.

What you just described is a OW (overseas worker) Expats are those who retired on Social security and pensions in a foreign country, the expatriated folks. For example, in the Philippines, it's common knowledge that the average expat lives on about $1400-$1500 per month. And that also happens to be the average social security payments for most Americans. Where I came from (USA), that's the meaning of an expat. The American dude Alex Zaves who runs the "Madagascar Expat Lifestyle" also his own very informative personal FB, retired in Madagascar and married to a local woman also they have kids together. I received some good sensible advice from them in the past, (rent prices and English proficiency related) and never been solicited or pressured to or targeted to sell me anything. He updates his FB with good info about current events. It seems to be good quality. He comes across as boots on the ground!

[Neddy69]

So basically, a fixer would take care of the stamp and the new visa for me without ever leaving. Thanks for the info.

Be careful. There's fixers and "fixers". I know people paid for a good looking (fake) residence permit 3000 euros. These idiots are the laughing stock on coast. Talk to a knowledgeable old Retiree. Pay him a few beers. Groom your contacts. If he likes you he will spill the beans. Did I ever use a fixer. NO. What for? I do my own due diligence and my own research. And believe me. That takes years. I trust nobody unless proven otherwise. For me it's simple. I have contacts in immigration. No need for a fixer. The whole of Africa is full of (also white) scammers. There's a standard tariff of 20.000 to 25.000 KES. It's perfectly legal illegallity. A stamp alone is not enough. They stamp you out as having virtually left the country. That includes entry in the computer database. New eVisa and new entry stamp. And voilà you have another 5 months.

Mwalimu.