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[Andalus Expat]

The Destacamos.com escort advertising site has been unavailable since yesterday morning. If you're in Spain, your browser may display a site security certificate warning but if you try the domain via a VPN from a US IP address, you'll see a suspension notice issued by the Spanish Consumer Ministry.

That's going to be causing serious problems for the girls, because Destacamos took over as their favoured site when Pasion closed. Loquosex & Scompi are still running normally but I just got a browser site certificate warning on Mileroticos, so looks like that one's been embargoed as well. As yet not displaying the Consumer Ministry warning on VPN but that may come. So it looks like the Spanish Government have escalated their War On Prostitution & are blocking sites that were attempting with their content to stay within the letter of the law. Whether this action would survive an appeal to the law courts is an interesting proposition. But you'd need very deep pockets to initiate lawfare with government lawyers & that could take months if not years.

So what happens now? The women may try to migrate their advertising to the still functioning sites. But they're neither particularly bright not internet literate. The last migration from Pasion to Destacamos took over a month for them to get their acts together & a lot dropped out along the way. And there's no guarantee those sites will survive. The Min of Cul may just be working through from the most to the least popular. I see that some of the Barcelona sites like www.sexomercadobcn.com are still untroubled but how long that will last?

I do have a great sympathy for the girls. Already I've received several Whatsapps from girls had my number, obviously plying for hire. The ones it's going to hit particularly hard are the migratory ones move from town to town. They may have rocked up in some city hoping to work & found they've no way of getting work & no money for accommodation or onward travel. They'll be hungry & on the streets. Very sad.

[Andalus Expat]

With the fragile government they have (their partners are pro-separtist parties who support prostitution) it's going to very difficult to try again.

I wouldn't be too sure of that. Precarious governments are always dangerous because their sole interest is staying in power. Policies take second place. It's just the sort of issue they might give ground to some small, unrepresentative, group in the Cortes to gain support on some other matter more important to them. Way politics works.

[BaltiX]

Some people in local BCN forum fear the government will block everything including their forum, but I have doubts. I read those websites went down because of technical reasons. Like I said before the PSOE adapted woke ideology from overseas (mainly from USA) and try to impose it on Spain. It's not the same party that decriminalized prostitution back in mid 1990's. Why they became woke I don't know. Perhaps they want to re-imagine the party to fit the 21st century. Or want to appease the feminist lobbyists. There are people who can answer better. They tried to ban prostitution earlier, but it never happened. With the fragile government they have (their partners are pro-separtist parties who support prostitution) it's going to very difficult to try again.

[Jon32]

Well now I am using Opera with their built in VPN to access nuevoloquo and destacamos. Which is unfucking believable, is this fucking North Korea?

How fucking stupid of this government. Instead of tax it, make it legal, give the girls healthcare and retirement. They push it underground where it's GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.

Attached is an image of the recommended VPNs to use to access the sites. Was incredibly easy to use Opera and their free VPN so hopefully it doesn't turn away too many girls.

What are everyone's thoughts on them passing legislation to make it 100% illegal?

[BaltiX]

You're quite correct. My bad. Looking it up, the eurogirlsescort.com domain is registered to an address in Praha, Czech Republic. Similar to Pasion.com, which was registered to a Paris, France address.

The problem with advertising is not necessarily the domicile of the site but monetising the service that pays for it. As Internationalsexguide found out when the card companies (Visa / Mastercard / Amex) withdrew its money transmission facilities. It's likely what did for Pasion. Pasion largely relied on its advertisers paying cash for their adverts via ATM machines & no doubt the Spanish banks withdrew the facility. But like ISG, the amounts of money involved would be trivial. But neither the banks nor the card companies are likely to defund the entirety of the world's sex industry to appease a few Spanish politicians. The turnovers are in hundreds of billions. The profits for the companies in billions. So the answer to Spanish puta advertising is don't advertise from Spain but from somewhere else. Of course there's always the problem of regional domain blocking by the ISPs. But that's what VPNs were invented for.

I bet the people who owns those websites are strongly "connected".

[Andalus Expat]

Funny thing is that prostitution is completely illegal in Lithuania.

You're quite correct. My bad. Looking it up, the eurogirlsescort.com domain is registered to an address in Praha, Czech Republic. Similar to Pasion.com, which was registered to a Paris, France address.

The problem with advertising is not necessarily the domicile of the site but monetising the service that pays for it. As Internationalsexguide found out when the card companies (Visa / Mastercard / Amex) withdrew its money transmission facilities. It's likely what did for Pasion. Pasion largely relied on its advertisers paying cash for their adverts via ATM machines & no doubt the Spanish banks withdrew the facility. But like ISG, the amounts of money involved would be trivial. But neither the banks nor the card companies are likely to defund the entirety of the world's sex industry to appease a few Spanish politicians. The turnovers are in hundreds of billions. The profits for the companies in billions. So the answer to Spanish puta advertising is don't advertise from Spain but from somewhere else. Of course there's always the problem of regional domain blocking by the ISPs. But that's what VPNs were invented for.

[BaltiX]

After making the previous post it occurred that probably the best advertising platforms for girls in Spain would be sites that aren't registered in Spain & labouring under Spanish restrictions. Eurogirls I've already mentioned. I think that's registered in Lithuania & carries full body naked photos & lists services. That does attract some of the high end girls so be prepared for eye watering prices. Although more devious amongst us will the same girls advertising on Destacamos, sometimes with different names & phone numbers, at lower prices. So we know which number to contact, don't we? Another & much neglected site is the Spanish section of the UK's Adultwork. Currently infested with Brit women of often advanced years asking ridiculous rates. A mug trap for the uninformed. Adultwork does have some stiff validation requirements for advertisers & customer feedback which would be a challenge to girls who are accustomed to the Spanish practises of lying & false photos but is why it's become the UK's go to prossie resource.

And lastly, there is this site's Classified Adverts. Which could have enormous potential. I did, some years ago, put an advert for a girl in that section & she received a veritable deluge of enquiries & clients off the back of it. I had another couple of girls I wanted to place ads for. They can't do it for themselves because they can't handle doing the registration in English. Both attempts were blocked by the site itself. Why? Two guesses. Either the repeated use of the same IP address or a cookie was tripping a spam filter. Or using separate e-mail account registrations but carried on the same domain was doing the same. Since I would have had to manage the adverts on their behalf I was using e-mail accounts generated out of a web domain I own, where I have easy access to them as administrator, rather than having to repeatedly log in & out of multiple gmail accounts & all the problems that can cause. Maybe this board's Administration could supply some input. It does seem a shame that what could be a valuable resource of information, ISG's Classified Ads / Spain, gets so little use. Especially as the advantages of paid membership for advertisers would generate site income. If it was successful, it would be possible to leverage up to full paid for banner ads linking to an external site. As we are having to cope with, there is currently a considerable advertising deficit for punters visiting Spain. The girls would certainly benefit from it.

Funny thing is that prostitution is completely illegal in Lithuania. Escort-Advisor is more popular in Italy than Spain. As for the advertising ban I think what working girls and the groups that represent them should do next is try to lobby to get the advertising ban repealed or take it to their Supreme Court. The PSOE is still in power for now, but they don't control the senate and they are the mercy of the pro-separatist groups, who support prostitution.

[Andalus Expat]

After making the previous post it occurred that probably the best advertising platforms for girls in Spain would be sites that aren't registered in Spain & labouring under Spanish restrictions. Eurogirls I've already mentioned. I think that's registered in Lithuania & carries full body naked photos & lists services. That does attract some of the high end girls so be prepared for eye watering prices. Although more devious amongst us will the same girls advertising on Destacamos, sometimes with different names & phone numbers, at lower prices. So we know which number to contact, don't we? Another & much neglected site is the Spanish section of the UK's Adultwork. Currently infested with Brit women of often advanced years asking ridiculous rates. A mug trap for the uninformed. Adultwork does have some stiff validation requirements for advertisers & customer feedback which would be a challenge to girls who are accustomed to the Spanish practises of lying & false photos but is why it's become the UK's go to prossie resource.

And lastly, there is this site's Classified Adverts. Which could have enormous potential. I did, some years ago, put an advert for a girl in that section & she received a veritable deluge of enquiries & clients off the back of it. I had another couple of girls I wanted to place ads for. They can't do it for themselves because they can't handle doing the registration in English. Both attempts were blocked by the site itself. Why? Two guesses. Either the repeated use of the same IP address or a cookie was tripping a spam filter. Or using separate e-mail account registrations but carried on the same domain was doing the same. Since I would have had to manage the adverts on their behalf I was using e-mail accounts generated out of a web domain I own, where I have easy access to them as administrator, rather than having to repeatedly log in & out of multiple gmail accounts & all the problems that can cause. Maybe this board's Administration could supply some input. It does seem a shame that what could be a valuable resource of information, ISG's Classified Ads / Spain, gets so little use. Especially as the advantages of paid membership for advertisers would generate site income. If it was successful, it would be possible to leverage up to full paid for banner ads linking to an external site. As we are having to cope with, there is currently a considerable advertising deficit for punters visiting Spain. The girls would certainly benefit from it.

[Andalus Expat]

Actually pretty torn up about Slumi being down. I would also like a list of providers too. This sucks, the websites with ads, prices, and filters were the most convenient. Is this temporary? Why the fuck is the left wing of Spain of all parties so adamant about shutting down prostitution? And the right wing is for it? Makes no god damn sense.

Slumi isn't down. It renamed itself Scompi.com with a new domain & the Slumi landing page had been redirecting there for a while. Looks like the Slumi domain came up for renewal & they didn't bother about paying the 80. That said, Scompi hasn't been particularly popular with the xicas & the number of girls advertising in my locality has dropped from a couple dozen to five. Loquosex.com would be a far better site for them. As it permits listing of services. But not many are using that, either. And not many are using Eurogirls, although more than Scompi. For the girls, it'll always be the ease of placing the adds which will be the criteria the popularity a site will depend on. Most of them aren't very bright & don't learn easily. The very simple Pasion tested a lot of their abilities. Destacamos seems to have the closest registration procedure to Pasion's, so that's what most seem to have have opted for. Despite it probably being the worst platform for what they want to market.

Of course the best site to find them is https://es-es.escort-advisor.com, the review site. And if some punter puts a review they can add their own message, photos & services offered. Unfortunately, the girls themselves tend to be shy of review sites because of the possibility of getting a poor review. They'd actually have to reliably do what they're promising. And as we all have learnt to our cost, a lot of them don't.

[BaltiX]

Actually pretty torn up about Slumi being down. I would also like a list of providers too. This sucks, the websites with ads, prices, and filters were the most convenient. Is this temporary? Why the fuck is the left wing of Spain of all parties so adamant about shutting down prostitution? And the right wing is for it? Makes no god damn sense.

The Spanish left basically adapted SJW / woke ideology from the Anglo countries, mainly those from US.

[DigLicker]

Nuevoloquo completely shut down for me now, here is the page I get when going there.

Do we have a list of sites that we can still access from inside Spain? I'm mostly really worried about sexomercadobcn and now destacamos is the only other major one I can still go to.

Actually pretty torn up about Slumi being down. I would also like a list of providers too. This sucks, the websites with ads, prices, and filters were the most convenient. Is this temporary? Why the fuck is the left wing of Spain of all parties so adamant about shutting down prostitution? And the right wing is for it? Makes no god damn sense.

[Jon32]

Nuevoloquo completely shut down for me now, here is the page I get when going there.

Do we have a list of sites that we can still access from inside Spain? I'm mostly really worried about sexomercadobcn and now destacamos is the only other major one I can still go to.

[BaltiX]

I found this link in the local BCN forum:https://www.noroestemadrid.com/2023/...rre-en-verdad/.

[BaltiX]

From what I read it seems to be a personal crusade from Ministry of Consumer Affairs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minist...sumer_Affairs_(Spain) to fine or shut down some of those websites. Why they waited until 1 year after they passed restrictions on advertising to enforce I don't know. It's probably just temporary, but you know never know with politics.

[Jon32]

Looks like the government has started to block websites? Some ISPs are blocking access (because of governmental notice). Following along in another forum, but for example nuevoloquo does not work for me anymore, slumi blocked and destacamos has a big notice on the top.

Yeah sure, we might figure out how to bypass this (with vpns) but no way the average girl is going to go through all this bullshit.

Fuck Spain for this BS