Pattaya Reports

[Explorer8939]

Yes, this is probably an issue where Your Mileage May Vary applies more than most.

I don't know what it is about Pattaya and me that my getting a Yes or at least no prolonged resistance about BBFS+CIP with the girls I have met and wanted to fuck is so elusive. I don't and never really did have this much of a problem with girls I wanted to fuck in Bangkok. Or back in the day in Manila and Angeles City, of course. Or any number of other destinations in USA, Mexico, Vietnam, etc. Only Pattaya.

Clearly I am not and have never been as handsome and charming as the punters who claim it is the norm for them in Pattaya or we are choosing very different girls to engage for the experience or some combination of both.

I will say this, I am sure I could have and can get BBFS+CIP with any number of Pattaya ladies who approach me quite often as I cruise through the scene. Easily. Problem is, I am talking about ladies of an age and level of looks that I don't want to fuck and wouldn't even if they paid me. Not that they aren't nice ladies. They are just not ladies I would seriously engage as prospective P4 P providers.

So anyone looking for plenty of BBFS+CIP in Pattaya, rest assured I am not suggesting it is difficult to score that in Pattaya in the least. I can only relate my experience with the 100 or so girls I have bothered to engage for that level of service in Pattaya.

And to clarify my "100 girls" number results, in part I am talking about the approximate number of girls I have met there, wanted to fuck and took them on a "no upfront discussion about BBFS+CIP, just go with the flow" approach. That would be about 30% of those approximate 100 girls and none of them resulted in a BBFS+CIP experience at crunch time in bed, not even with a bit of cajoling, pressing, offering more money. I stop after one pass at 1-2 of those. I am not going to be whining, pleading or pestering some P4 P girl for it until she finally grudgingly gives in or gives up and pops her legs open. LOL.

Then, after my abysmal record of results with the "no discussion of BBFS+CIP upfront, just go with the flow" approach, I moved on to the "Negotiate BBFS+CIP upfront" approach with the remaining 70% or so of that approximate 100 girls.

And that meant it was much cheaper and less time consuming for me to get that No response upfront before I committed to any money than to get that No at the moment of penetration. It also meant I only took the 1 Pattaya girl in the past 12 years who said Yes upfront to me for it. The one I mentioned in my previous post. For the ones who said No upfront, I smiled, thanked them for their time and moved on.

So my total number of Pattaya girls who wound up in my bed was not 100 but closer to 40-50. I have no idea how many of those No Upfront girls might have changed their mind in the room or simply gone along with BBFS+CIP if I hadn't mentioned it upfront at all. But my previous experience with the "go with the flow" approach informed me it would not be a pretty number. And for those of us who will not be fucking anyone while wearing a condom and where a BBBJ+CIM is likely as much of a No or is done so badly it is also not worth it, well, that's a lot of buzz-killing time and money spent in a hotel room for nothing.

Now, I do vaguely recall that I might have gotten BBFS+CIP with a Pattaya girl I was very attracted to during one of my many trips to Thailand about 30 years ago. But since I spent half a week, 3-4 days, in Bangkok and the other half, 3-4 days, in Pattaya, I can't exactly be certain I met and fucked that particular girl in Pattaya and not Bangkok that long ago. Maybe I got BBFS+CIP with 2 girls of my choice in Pattaya over the years and not just one.

And I should also mention that I have not mongered or engaged in any P4 P discussion upfront or in bed with a girl in Pattaya for about 3 years. My most recent attempt was sometime during the Covid closures. I also never used ThaiFriendly in Pattaya.

I'm not excited about such discussions at the critical moment. If she says "condom", I point at my condom drawer. End of discussion.

[XXL]

Bronx Pizza is very average for those who know their pizza. The draw is it's convenient location in the heart of Buakhao. I prefer the kebab stand that is nearby where you get a much heftier kebob for the same price a slice of pizza costs.

Bronx Pizza used to be good. Not any more IMO. There was a place on Soi 6 selling ok pizzas. Like so many places selling ok stuff it's now closed (or has been most of the time). I now go to Pizzaria Toscana on Beach road or to Bella Italia on 2nd road.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Many thanks for these insights. Sadly, I am well over 40 (early 60's) and definitely well over "fit". LOL.

But I can chat and be charming and nice, which has helped me in the past.

I'll have to do more research before I make any dicisions.

I'd say got for it in Pattaya. Or even Bangkok.

You sound very similar to me, and I have had no issues recently in Pattaya at all.

With most of my success being had in the supposed wasteland of Soi 6 for BBFS.

All done so with OK looking or better ladies, and at fair prices of 1500 baht plus room fees.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

That is an interesting take on the issue. I have seen several, maybe many reports on here from guys who swear it is not an issue and they often get BBFS with no negotiation or a simple no in the room and off to the races. I have little experience in Thailand in recent years but I do keep up and know a few guys who live there or visit often and their experience seems more in line with yours. Rare and often refused even for offers of more money. I am a little younger than you but also hate condoms and have a hell of a time getting off using one. Often times just seeing the girls get one out and open the package makes my hard on immediately start to disappear! If not I will give it a go but usually just give up and send them off without blowing my load.

If Thailand was more like the PI in that regard I would visit more often as I go to Cambodia for extended periods every year. What a fuck up that place has become! BBFS still available but the girls are asking silly money these days.

My experience is also that it's not been an issue for me.

I hit Pattaya about two months ago for a quick 3 day weekend visit and had no trouble getting BBFS with creampie.

I had 6 sessions with ladies, 4 of them 20 yo or less, and 4 of them on Soi 6, with one from a Soi3 bar late night, the other thru TF, and I easily scored 5 BBFS with CIP.

It was only the TF punt where it was negotiated upfront, and 5 of the punts where the same price to the lady of 1500 baht, with the Soi 3 late night 33 yo being only 1000 baht.

Of course the Soi 6 ladies were all fucked on premises, so there were bar fines / room fees in that of a few hundred baht.

In my opinion two of the Soi 6 20 yo's were 7's, one more Soi 6 20 yo was a 6, as was also the TF 19 yo a 6 (tho I had her multipop for two hours for her 1500).

The last Soi 6 late 20's and Soi 3 early 30's were 5's.

Photos of the Soi 6 7's can be found easily in my earlier posts.

Why do I think I am getting it, really who knows.

I am overweight, bald, and old (65 plus), yet I am handsum and can talk the language a little.

The main reason I think is how I present, as I am looked on as safe I guess.

Also I am cut, as have had a vasectomy, and telling the ladies I cannot make babies removes more fear for them than they have of STI's.

So guys, go get cut. LOL.

[Raj Patela]

Good summary, I agree with this though 500 baht seems a very low offer, even for early morning hours.

Watching you tubers live stream early hours in Pattaya. 500 might be Overpaying.

[CaliGuy33]

Good summary, I agree with this though 500 baht seems a very low offer, even for early morning hours.

Well he prefaced it with "young farang. " Ladies will take less from guys that are young, good looking, certain races, etc. I'm sure if a guy fits what they're specifically attracted to and it's 3 am in some club they'll go free with said guy playing the long game.

[Raj Patela]

Bronx Pizza is very average for those who know their pizza. The draw is it's convenient location in the heart of Buakhao. I prefer the kebab stand that is nearby where you get a much heftier kebob for the same price a slice of pizza costs.

Average is Ok. What's not ok is the pizza on offer looks like it's been sitting for 6 hours.

Maybe I'll take another look as I'm due for a Spaghetti run soon. Good spaghetti in area. Confirmed by really old expats who go there.

[Raj Patela]

Pre Covid is essentially four years plus ago. That's a long time. Get with the times. The world changes and constantly so.

But you are Scaremongering people into thinking Hotel prices are High. They really aren't.

Even Kenny G couldn't sell out Pattaya this past weekend.

I'm pretty sure my Red Planet charged under $20 a night Sat. And Friday.

[Raj Patela]

I spent last night from high-end soapy to soapy, go-go to go-go but couldn't find a single bird ready for a BBBJ. What is with these girls now a days?

Experienced members, I only have a couple of night left here, please let me know, where I can get a 3 some with BBBJ with 7+ looking girls.

That Buzzin STD video he did with a real Thai Doctor of Pattaya must have gone Viral.

[EihTooms]

That is an interesting take on the issue. I have seen several, maybe many reports on here from guys who swear it is not an issue and they often get BBFS with no negotiation or a simple no in the room and off to the races. I have little experience in Thailand in recent years but I do keep up and know a few guys who live there or visit often and their experience seems more in line with yours. Rare and often refused even for offers of more money. I am a little younger than you but also hate condoms and have a hell of a time getting off using one. Often times just seeing the girls get one out and open the package makes my hard on immediately start to disappear! If not I will give it a go but usually just give up and send them off without blowing my load.

If Thailand was more like the PI in that regard I would visit more often as I go to Cambodia for extended periods every year. What a fuck up that place has become! BBFS still available but the girls are asking silly money these days.

Yes, this is probably an issue where Your Mileage May Vary applies more than most.

I don't know what it is about Pattaya and me that my getting a Yes or at least no prolonged resistance about BBFS+CIP with the girls I have met and wanted to fuck is so elusive. I don't and never really did have this much of a problem with girls I wanted to fuck in Bangkok. Or back in the day in Manila and Angeles City, of course. Or any number of other destinations in USA, Mexico, Vietnam, etc. Only Pattaya.

Clearly I am not and have never been as handsome and charming as the punters who claim it is the norm for them in Pattaya or we are choosing very different girls to engage for the experience or some combination of both.

I will say this, I am sure I could have and can get BBFS+CIP with any number of Pattaya ladies who approach me quite often as I cruise through the scene. Easily. Problem is, I am talking about ladies of an age and level of looks that I don't want to fuck and wouldn't even if they paid me. Not that they aren't nice ladies. They are just not ladies I would seriously engage as prospective P4 P providers.

So anyone looking for plenty of BBFS+CIP in Pattaya, rest assured I am not suggesting it is difficult to score that in Pattaya in the least. I can only relate my experience with the 100 or so girls I have bothered to engage for that level of service in Pattaya.

And to clarify my "100 girls" number results, in part I am talking about the approximate number of girls I have met there, wanted to fuck and took them on a "no upfront discussion about BBFS+CIP, just go with the flow" approach. That would be about 30% of those approximate 100 girls and none of them resulted in a BBFS+CIP experience at crunch time in bed, not even with a bit of cajoling, pressing, offering more money. I stop after one pass at 1-2 of those. I am not going to be whining, pleading or pestering some P4 P girl for it until she finally grudgingly gives in or gives up and pops her legs open. LOL.

Then, after my abysmal record of results with the "no discussion of BBFS+CIP upfront, just go with the flow" approach, I moved on to the "Negotiate BBFS+CIP upfront" approach with the remaining 70% or so of that approximate 100 girls.

And that meant it was much cheaper and less time consuming for me to get that No response upfront before I committed to any money than to get that No at the moment of penetration. It also meant I only took the 1 Pattaya girl in the past 12 years who said Yes upfront to me for it. The one I mentioned in my previous post. For the ones who said No upfront, I smiled, thanked them for their time and moved on.

So my total number of Pattaya girls who wound up in my bed was not 100 but closer to 40-50. I have no idea how many of those No Upfront girls might have changed their mind in the room or simply gone along with BBFS+CIP if I hadn't mentioned it upfront at all. But my previous experience with the "go with the flow" approach informed me it would not be a pretty number. And for those of us who will not be fucking anyone while wearing a condom and where a BBBJ+CIM is likely as much of a No or is done so badly it is also not worth it, well, that's a lot of buzz-killing time and money spent in a hotel room for nothing.

Now, I do vaguely recall that I might have gotten BBFS+CIP with a Pattaya girl I was very attracted to during one of my many trips to Thailand about 30 years ago. But since I spent half a week, 3-4 days, in Bangkok and the other half, 3-4 days, in Pattaya, I can't exactly be certain I met and fucked that particular girl in Pattaya and not Bangkok that long ago. Maybe I got BBFS+CIP with 2 girls of my choice in Pattaya over the years and not just one.

And I should also mention that I have not mongered or engaged in any P4 P discussion upfront or in bed with a girl in Pattaya for about 3 years. My most recent attempt was sometime during the Covid closures. I also never used ThaiFriendly in Pattaya.

[Explorer8939]

That is an interesting take on the issue. I have seen several, maybe many reports on here from guys who swear it is not an issue and they often get BBFS with no negotiation or a simple no in the room and off to the races. I have little experience in Thailand in recent years but I do keep up and know a few guys who live there or visit often and their experience seems more in line with yours. Rare and often refused even for offers of more money. I am a little younger than you but also hate condoms and have a hell of a time getting off using one. Often times just seeing the girls get one out and open the package makes my hard on immediately start to disappear! If not I will give it a go but usually just give up and send them off without blowing my load.

If Thailand was more like the PI in that regard I would visit more often as I go to Cambodia for extended periods every year. What a fuck up that place has become! BBFS still available but the girls are asking silly money these days.

I know most of the ladies I fuck, and for many of them, I want to use a condom, since I know where they have been.

Lots and lots of "civvie" ladies who never work bar sometimes take a shift on Beach Road, going to the room with herds of South Asians.

Or they go to Karaoke bars and go with young Thai men who have a second job earlier in the evening working Farang bars and going with Farang men to the room.

Be careful out there.

[Explorer8939]

Good summary, I agree with this though 500 baht seems a very low offer, even for early morning hours.

I'm talking about hansum young Farang. By the early morning, many bargirls are drunk and facing going home alone.

And many end up going for free, because what they really want is a young hansum Farang boyfriend.

[MrHappyKat]

Thank you all for your feedback. I think I'll put off Thailand for a year and reevaluate then.

[Paolo99]

After the ladies take care of their customer and then leave with cash in hand, they have a lot of options. Many go to Ibar or Insomnia, where drinks are cheap for them. Their hope is to hook a whale for big money. But, often, its early morning, they have had many drinks, and some young Farang offers 500 baht, and off they go.

This is if they don't have a Thai man waiting for them at home. If so, they just go home when they have money.

If they are new to Pattaya, they hit the karaoke bars at 1 am or so, buying drinks for young Thai men. It's expensive, moreso if they hook up with one long time. Some older long time bargirls never get over their addiction to karaoke boys and so have to work until they can't get customers any more, and when the money is gone, so is the honey.

Good summary, I agree with this though 500 baht seems a very low offer, even for early morning hours.

[Pubgg]

I spent last night from high-end soapy to soapy, go-go to go-go but couldn't find a single bird ready for a BBBJ. What is with these girls now a days?

Experienced members, I only have a couple of night left here, please let me know, where I can get a 3 some with BBBJ with 7+ looking girls.