Jakarta

[United1]

Does anyone know a good call-in service in Jakarta? Meaning they can send a beautiufl girl to my place for massage? I know, I am better of going to one of the many great spas in the area.

[HunchBack74]

I lived and worked in Jakarta 20 odd years ago. Back then the go to places were CJ's and be. A. T. S to pick up freelancers at around IDR350 K per pop ST, IDR500 k LT and the occasional 9/10's asking for around IDR700 K. Blok M was also very much alive, and there were places like Tiga Puluh (had a few good nights) and also Blowfish, Dragonfly etc.

So this trip was very much a walk down memory lane. Staying in the Harmoni area. Some decent hotels (Yello, Harris, Grand Mercure (around there. Walking distance to Malio and close to Classic, Travel etc.

BATS / CJ's. No longer like the glory days. I went fully expecting to meet the daughters of the previous generation who worked there 20 years ago. Instead I found probably women of that vintage still there. However to be fair I had a fantastic night out in CJ's. Decent band. Alcohol was expensive (IDR200 k for a bottle of corona - 1st bottle included in the entrance fee). I perched myself in the counter along the walkway to the washrooms, and got to checkout the girls enroute. A smile and a nod went a long way and I ended up talking to a fair few of the women who were there and had a bit of a laugh with them. Funniest thing as I was not on a mission to pick up and was just there to watch the world go by, the ladies were relaxed and friendly and pointed out punters that they did not like and had a bad reputation. Some of the ladies were regular office admin workers who came there after work for extra cash. All in all very interesting women in there mid to late 30's / early 40's, and back in blighty I would have had no qualms taking them back. But here in Jakarta expectations are a bit higher. There were some younger females in the there 20's. Again, very friendly, but less inclined to stop and chat. Would say they were solid 6/7's. Prices. Don't have a clue, as I wasn't asking but when you go down to the lobby there were a few ladies scattered around on the arm chairs (easy to chat and discuss prices) and one pretty attractive younger female quote IDR1. 2 m. Similar scenario in BATS in the Mulia Lobby. I would say that is fairly reasonable benchmark. What I do like about CJ's however is, it is more of an experience meeting, having a chat and taking someone back. The level of English was higher and you can more of a GFE, if you are willing to compromise a bit on the age and looks. Probably a few gems to be found if you invest the time and resources going there regularly.

Classic. Don't need to say much about classic. Enough in the forum. Be polite to the security guards and they are very friendly. Visited around 6 pm. Just go in, up the escalator to the second floor. Ignore the mamasans politely and head to the bar and get a beer. I think it was about IDR110 k. They give you one of these wrist bands with a number. I say myself on a table and eventually a mamasan came over, who was not pushy. Look out for her or ask for her. Her name is Aggie. Asked me what I wanted and she brought out a very attractive young lady, who turned out to be 19 and a solid 7. Mamasan advised me beforehand that 'had no baby' (true). Asked me if I was a duo. Greed got the better of me and I said OK. Proceed to bring alone another attractive female (solid 6) who was 20. Paid the IDR550 k for the both of them and went down to the rooms with my beer in hand.

The threesome was not one in the true sense of the word. The girls did not interact with each other. More a case of taking turns with each. It was good for the experience but if there is a next time I think I would stick to one and focus fully on her.

A bit of performance anxiety did creep up, with one watching while a had my way with the 19 year old. But each to his own. Others may like having an audience. Anyway the whole thing was an experience, but all in all its just a pump and dump (re) production line, and probably not for all. Personally I much prefer picking up in a place like Thermae in Bangkok, or Ipanema in Singapore (in the old days). Or Thai Friendly and spending a bit of time getting to know them before doing the deed.

MIght check out Malio. I think the quality would better (but more expensive) but essentially it is still a pump and dump and I think I prefer trying to meet some semi-professionals. I have been told to check out Basque and I might pop into Dragonfly to see what is about.

Other interesting things I noted. Along Jl Hayam Wuruk near grand mercure and along the stretch there are pimps on scooters parked along with 3 or so ladies around 2 am in the morning, I did not partake as its not my scene, but just get your bluebird driver to do a bit of kerb crawling and you can check out the score.

Dating apps are a bit hit and miss. But the women here like their young 'Bule' (I am neither) so others may have differing levels of success. The matches I got were 6/7 in there 30's which I did not pursue.

Final thoughts Jakarta as a punting destination. In its favour, it's cheap. Its plentiful, for pump and dump. I think there is enough variety to satisfy every palate and price point. Other than that great local cuisine, but not much else to do than shopping malls. Perhaps a stopover on the way to Bali may be better. A local I know however advised that I forget Bali and go to Labuan Bojo which is the next tourist hotspot.

If you have a few weeks / months to spare, and you can get to the local scene with regular people (used to be in it) it's more rewarding. However for purely punting purposes, Bangkok / Thailand still wins hands down and I doubt I will bother again, unless it is to meet old local friends and invest some time in dating etc.

[Expat American]

I wouldn't describe Jakarta girls as slim. They're curvy. If you want slim go to Ho Chi Minh. No fat girls whatsoever.

I found all types there. Interestingly even some very slim girls had decent sized natural tits. But also found some skinny flat chested ones. And many with womanly curves. Didn't see porky ones like in the Phils. Also every girl there was below 25. And no fake boobs and few tats. I was highly impressed.

[Sharka]

I wouldn't describe Jakarta girls as slim. They're curvy. If you want slim go to Ho Chi Minh. No fat girls whatsoever.

I would say many of the Indo girls body I've been with differ with age. The teens tend to be slim. 20's had a bit more curves and some bit more fat. 30's more so. But for some reason, some of the 40's I've seen seem to get thinner again (at least the ones from the FL clubs).

On average, the Indo girls tend to be slightly more plumb than the average Thai of the same age.

Many of the Cambodian girls I've had on average are also more plumb than the Indo.

But you are correct, the Viets are generally slim at all ages but also have smaller boobs (same with the Chinese girls).

[Banana Boi]

I remember when this could have been said of many establishments in Thailand, not any more. I better get to Indonesia again before this changes.

I wouldn't describe Jakarta girls as slim. They're curvy. If you want slim go to Ho Chi Minh. No fat girls whatsoever.

[Turgid]

....... only slim girls were available......

I remember when this could have been said of many establishments in Thailand, not any more. I better get to Indonesia again before this changes.

[TravelingMan3]

Well it looks like I'm going to be headed this way I live in Pattaya but I'm in the states right now and decided to take a trip before returning just a couple of days. I've read the forum and know the spots one thing I don't know is what time does classic club open or is it 24 hrs I get in early in the morning and wouldn't mind heading straight over after I check into my room.

[Expat American]

Yup, awesome solution untill you get some skin infection years later and nothing you take clears it up. Here's a tip. Get yourself a little red bottle of betadine soap "Sabun Betadine" at any chain apotek, Watsons, Kimia Pharma etc. It's a povidone iodine antiseptic wash. Then after sex wash your major asset with it. It's a foaming wash. The girl will be impressed and may even ask if she can have some.

OS can vouch from exprience of barebacking hundreds of chickens that you will be protected against bacterial transmission of those characters. If you choose to creampie however, the risk is elevated as you have a better transmission conduit. Ya got to love those girls though. Half of them will be offended if you don't creampie them. If you have high moral standards like OS, you may politely enquire as to whether the lady uses contraception with the simple phrase Sudah KB. (Pronounced KahBeh). You will be surprised how many dont.

Antibiotic resistance is shaping up as one of the major global health issues . Drug companies wont invest in new antibiotics because hospitals put them in the drawer as the last line of defence to clear up the stuff that is resistant to everything else. Doxycycline is one of those.

Lastly while OS is on a moral rant. For those of you who watch too much porn and think that these girls get off on you choking them and slapping them around. Save that for your ugly cellulite ridden wife at home. A lot of these girls are in these places because they have landed on the wrong side of some village rats fists. Its always interesting hearing their stories and they will tell you of any previous interactions with westerners. But running out of the room crying because some peanut brained bule is reliving his porn fantasies isnt cool. And remember, Indonesians are really nice and really polite right up to the point that they are not and that includes security in those places. Once its on theres an awful lot of hangers on milling around who will throw a quick hit in purely because they can.

Betadiene is good general antiseptic for surface application, but I'm not sure it will prevent Chlamydia etc because those buggers go up your urethra where you can't get the soap. Its not a bad protocol to use it, but its not the same as antibiotics so you can use both. Antibiotic resistance is real and if I lived in Jakarta or something I couldn't take it all the time. I usually only do 3 day mongering visits a few times a year so I think its okay. And for the last paragraph, I assume its not addressed to me because I never treat the girl badly and every time girls have been happy to repeat. But yes, treat them kindly, they have a hard life.

[Offshore Swell]

I did take PreP but I think its overkill as risk of F2 M Vaginal HIV transmission is negligible. But since I was able to score some cheap generic PreP I decided to take the extra insurance. More important is protection from bacterial infections (Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis). The best known protocol for that is a course of Doxycycline after your trip or one daily during (if your trip is less than a week). Alternatively take 1 g Azithromycin single dose at the end of the trip. None of this is 100% but I think reduces the risk to a manageable level that I am comfortable with.

Yup, awesome solution untill you get some skin infection years later and nothing you take clears it up. Here's a tip. Get yourself a little red bottle of betadine soap "Sabun Betadine" at any chain apotek, Watsons, Kimia Pharma etc. It's a povidone iodine antiseptic wash. Then after sex wash your major asset with it. It's a foaming wash. The girl will be impressed and may even ask if she can have some.

OS can vouch from exprience of barebacking hundreds of chickens that you will be protected against bacterial transmission of those characters. If you choose to creampie however, the risk is elevated as you have a better transmission conduit. Ya got to love those girls though. Half of them will be offended if you don't creampie them. If you have high moral standards like OS, you may politely enquire as to whether the lady uses contraception with the simple phrase Sudah KB. (Pronounced KahBeh). You will be surprised how many dont.

Antibiotic resistance is shaping up as one of the major global health issues . Drug companies wont invest in new antibiotics because hospitals put them in the drawer as the last line of defence to clear up the stuff that is resistant to everything else. Doxycycline is one of those.

Lastly while OS is on a moral rant. For those of you who watch too much porn and think that these girls get off on you choking them and slapping them around. Save that for your ugly cellulite ridden wife at home. A lot of these girls are in these places because they have landed on the wrong side of some village rat’s fists. It’s always interesting hearing their stories and they will tell you of any previous interactions with westerners. But running out of the room crying because some peanut brained bule is reliving his porn fantasies isn’t cool. And remember, Indonesians are really nice and really polite right up to the point that they are not and that includes security in those places. Once it’s on theres an awful lot of hangers on milling around who will throw a quick hit in purely because they can.

[Belvaros]

I did take PreP but I think its overkill as risk of F2 M Vaginal HIV transmission is negligible. But since I was able to score some cheap generic PreP I decided to take the extra insurance. More important is protection from bacterial infections (Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis). The best known protocol for that is a course of Doxycycline after your trip or one daily during (if your trip is less than a week). Alternatively take 1 g Azithromycin single dose at the end of the trip. None of this is 100% but I think reduces the risk to a manageable level that I am comfortable with.

Thanks. Will try that even though I don't BBFS I do DATY.

[Cucumber]

I did take PreP...

Did you experience any side effects whatsoever from PreP?

[Expat American]

Just wonder, Did you take PreP regularly before engaging in BBFS and presumably CIP. ?? In some countries in Europe PreP is now available for free of charge, even for regular intake for those who could show reasons why they need them.

I did take PreP but I think its overkill as risk of F2 M Vaginal HIV transmission is negligible. But since I was able to score some cheap generic PreP I decided to take the extra insurance. More important is protection from bacterial infections (Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis). The best known protocol for that is a course of Doxycycline after your trip or one daily during (if your trip is less than a week). Alternatively take 1 g Azithromycin single dose at the end of the trip. None of this is 100% but I think reduces the risk to a manageable level that I am comfortable with.

[Offshore Swell]

Nice TR "Expat American" . I know who you are, hahaha because I'm the ISG bro who told you about Holiday Inn Gajah Mada.

So the secret is out. Just embrace it Offshore Swell. You are complaining so much about the scene in Jakarta being "ruined", I think I know who you are as well hahaha.

Next time I go to Jakarta in 2024, I expect Holiday Inn's 400 rooms to all be filled with mongers, LOL.

Someone asked about PrEP. Yes, if you are doing any risky sexual behaviour, then for the girls sake and for yours and ours, take PrEP like I do. Also I used to take it for 2 or 3 days before my first session, but I read some new info and now on this and future trips, I'm taking it for a full 7 days before my first session.

Just catching up on this forum after coming back from a week in Jakarta. It was great to discover some new places, and finishing off my last night, with a 19 yo and 20 yo in Kotah Indah, getting back to my room at 4 am.

One tip for my next trip, I'm bringing my own green laser pointer!

Ha Ha! OK dudes, peace. OS will now move on to more deviant activities than complaining. Like finding an agent in the adjoining city of his new rural residence to recruit willing young maidens for jiggy jig and finding a sutiable hung local bule companion of which we may both hunt on Kaskus for ladies who want to be DP'd by big bule cocks. Backdoor is a bit of a taboo topic for a lot of Indonesians. OS asked 3 of his favourite Mami's if they had any girls who liked it in the pantat and got a firm no back from each.

[Zanny]

Nice TR "Expat American" . I know who you are, hahaha because I'm the ISG bro who told you about Holiday Inn Gajah Mada.

So the secret is out. Just embrace it Offshore Swell. You are complaining so much about the scene in Jakarta being "ruined", I think I know who you are as well hahaha.

Next time I go to Jakarta in 2024, I expect Holiday Inn's 400 rooms to all be filled with mongers, LOL.

Someone asked about PrEP. Yes, if you are doing any risky sexual behaviour, then for the girls sake and for yours and ours, take PrEP like I do. Also I used to take it for 2 or 3 days before my first session, but I read some new info and now on this and future trips, I'm taking it for a full 7 days before my first session.

Just catching up on this forum after coming back from a week in Jakarta. It was great to discover some new places, and finishing off my last night, with a 19 yo and 20 yo in Kotah Indah, getting back to my room at 4 am.

One tip for my next trip, I'm bringing my own green laser pointer!

[Expat American]

Just stumbled upon this underground forum by chance and will figure out membership soon. Great camaraderie here, wonderful and hopefully I'll add some in times to come. Hitting Jakarta in early Jan for a sex vacation. Live in Europe where this is either non existent or super expensive. Can some brother come to my rescue and share which spa brothels bars clubs to visit so time is not lost in planning and traffic, looking at full & sex only. No cover is not my game although rear end is. Time is my friend and I wish to plan some mega events, travelling with close buddies so looking at plenty of chicks under the shade. This is my first report so go easy on me. Like wine will get better with time. Yours truly Krack.

Dude. Literally two posts below yours are two detailed trip reports that in total mention almost 10 establishments. If you read a few pages you will get even more info. I get you are new here but we generally frown upon lazy posters who don't bother to even read a few pages before demanding others here to serve as their personal travel agent. Please if you are new to Asia, go to Thailand. Jakarta is not for you.