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12-18-23 22:07 #13811
Posts: 2579How low can Dirtbag Joe go?
"After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.
We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn't vote for it.
Sorry, I know you're disappointed."
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bi...18/id/1146378/
Will he ever lose the support of you and ET?
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12-18-23 19:47 #13810
Posts: 2579There you go again
"all of that was as bad or worse under Trump than under Biden.
Uh. You do know crimes occurred all around the world even before the creation of 24/7/365 Cable News Channels, 24/7/365 Internet Access and everyone keeping a locked and loaded smartphone camera at the ready in their hand, right?
W numbers, sweeeeet.
Thanks Dirtbag Joe.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...bushs-numbers/
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12-18-23 03:40 #13809
Posts: 2579King of whataboutism strikes again
"All of that was as bad or worse under Trump than under Biden.
Uh. You do know crimes occurred all around the world even before the creation of 24/7/365 Cable News Channels, 24/7/365 Internet Access and everyone keeping a locked and loaded smartphone camera at the ready in their hand, right?
Yes blame those damn iPhones and CNN LMAO.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/in...9-85f552cfb0cf
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12-17-23 12:14 #13808
Posts: 5503Of course it was 100% better than Repub Do Nothingness.
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
Thank God we didn't do the latter. Thank Obama-Biden and the Dems that we didn't have to.
I appears that you were not exactly awake, alert and paying attention to all or perhaps even any of the events going on in the country, in Congress especially, while Obama-Biden were taking office and Repub Policy and Stewardship economy was crashing down around our ears for the umpteenth time and brave free-market Capitalists were diving under their beds and shitting their pants for as many times.
Well, I was awake, alert and paying attention to who did and did not do what at that time. Obama-Biden and the Dems saved the USA and much of the world economy. Similar to what Biden-Harris did. You want to fault them for not nailing in advance down to the dime while everyone was staring into another unknowable, bottomless abyss of unprecedented catastrophic Repub economic policy and stewardship disaster, hey, knock yourself out. That is what theoretical, inattentive to the real world, economic acadamia is all about.
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12-17-23 06:37 #13807
Posts: 1807I take it back
After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.
We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn’t vote for it.
Sorry, I know you're disappointed.
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12-17-23 05:50 #13806
Posts: 1807For the Marquis. Donald Trump is a Great Defender of LGBT people
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12-17-23 05:00 #13805
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Calling what happened subsequently "one of the Greatest Economic Recoveries and Jobs Creation Presidential Terms of all time" is a huge exaggeration. The recovery was anemic. Obama and the Democrats did have the good sense to extend all the Bush tax cuts for two years, which was what a good Keynesian would tell you to do at the tail end of a recession. And to make the rate cuts permanent for all except high income earners. Too bad they didn't follow up with spending cuts once we were out of the woods and the economy was doing OK.
It ain't your daddy's Democratic Party any more though Tooms. The American Rescue Plan was overkill that busted the budget and kicked off inflation. Barrack Obama, Larry Summers and Jason Furman never would have proposed something like that, at that moment in time. Summers and Furman have said so.
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12-17-23 02:43 #13804
Posts: 5503Sure. No matter who is president as long as it is a Dem armed with Dem legislation.
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
If incoming Dem Biden has launched into the same lies, mocking mitigation measures and horrific mismanagement of the vaccine distribution and administration that Trump exhibited re the virus and Trump's Pandemic for every month of 2020, even more millions of jobs would have been lost. The post-election relief rally in the stock market after it was known that Biden won was one of if not the greatest stock market relief rally in history. Because the forward-looking stock market investors knew a Dem Biden was not going to pull a Repub Hoover, Reagan, Bush2 or Trump and make all the worst decisions to exacerbate their Repub economic disaster. In all probability every job recovery and unemployment rate decline after January 20 was based on that same premise.
Thanks, Joe.
BTW, the same dramatic change of course reflection point recovery in the stock market, jobs creation and the end of GW Bush's Great Recession began within two weeks of Obama signing and passing the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009. With virtually no Repub support. All Dems. Legislation, not simply sitting there waiting for a recovery that might not begin for another 4-5 years and not a matter of them simply saying, "But we're Democrats"! Legislation. Work. Doing Something. Not Doing Nothing or Doing Something Stupid.
And what followed was, as under FDR, Clinton, Biden and even Carter and JFK / LBJ, one of the Greatest Economic Recoveries and Jobs Creation Presidential Terms of all time.
If those things happen "no matter who is president" shouldn't it have happened at least once under a Repub president in the past 100 years or so? I mean, even due to random chance? Instead of not even once?
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12-16-23 22:57 #13803
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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12-16-23 04:38 #13802
Posts: 5503You should demand a refund from that Chicago School of Economics
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
Second, the millions upon millions of jobs Trump wiped out when his efforts finally produced Trump's Pandemic were truly wiped out and lost. They were not put "on hiatus" with pay, go take a vacation for a few weeks.
The same as when The Great Repub Depression "struck", the Great Repub Reagan Whopping Ten Consecutive Months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates "struck", GW Bush's Great Repub Recession "struck", etc.
Seriously? Your School of Economics taught you that massive, historic job losses in the millions during Great (typically Repub) Economics Disasters are never really "lost" and that when recoveries and boom times are created (typically Dem. And note, they don't just "happen" nor are they "struck") thanks to real world efforts like legislation and new policies enacted, they were never really "gained"?
LOL. I'd ask for a refund of whatever you paid for those lessons if I were you. That is, unless they try to bamboozle you by floating different concepts than "pay" and "lessons" for that kind of event too.
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12-16-23 04:04 #13801
Posts: 5503Walgreens, Starbucks, etc Execs continue to get busted on their BS
Amazing, isn't it? But but but we saw crimes being committed for the first time ever since January 20,2021. On YouTube!
Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz says more stores to close for security reasons.
July 19, 2022
https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...urity-reasons/
In a video posted on Twitter, Schultz said Starbucks is closing stores that are not unprofitable due to an uptick in safety-related problems including crime, homelessness and drug use in bathrooms. The company earlier announced plans to close 16 locations because of security issues.
This is just the beginning, and there are going to be many more, Schultz said. It has shocked me that one of the primary concerns that our retail partners have is their own personal safety.
Starbucks has previously said it will close locations in Portland, Oregon; Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Seattle and Washington, D.C.
Oh, wait:
Starbucks accused by NLRB of union busting for closing 23 stores.
Dec. 14, 2023
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...sing-23-stores
The National Labor Relations Board is looking to force Starbucks to reopen 23 stores the coffee giant closed last year, accusing the company of shuttering the union and non-union shops as part of a union-busting effort.
Lolol.
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12-15-23 19:50 #13800
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism
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12-15-23 19:47 #13799
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
The total number of non-farm jobs in February, 2020 when COVID struck was 152,371,000, and there are 157,087,000 now. That's during a period when the working aged population increased from 205,608,000 to 209,039,000.
The EihTooms School believes that GDP growth and employment growth are only correlated to the party of the president, and all data must be interpreted to the benefit of Democratic presidents. Trump deserves all the blame for job losses during a worldwide pandemic, and Ronald Reagan deserves all the blame for a recession that started during the Carter Administration. Barrack Obama and Joe Biden deserve sole credit for all gains in GDP and jobs coming out of recessions. Any any GDP growth or increase in jobs during the Reagan and Trump administration (pre-COVID) were just because of conditions created by President Carter and President Obama respectfully.
I'm more a Chicago School adherent myself.
DINO's, LOL.
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12-15-23 16:16 #13798
Posts: 1132What to make of MILFs for Liberty's Bridget Zielger?
Originally Posted by Tiny 12 [View Original Post]
Meaning, she may have "turned the corner" and is now, ONLY banging "LGBTQ pussy"? And doesn't want Christian Ziegler, "limp dick" anymore? Ergo, him desperately needing to "get jiggy" elsewhere. I gotta say, it just raises a whole lot of unanswered questions.
Hey, on the flip side, 'tis good to see a Republican, embrace wanting to bang "LGBTQ pussy", even if it is a hypocrite like, Bridget Zielger...again, no judgement here!
I'm just worried, that with you exhibiting such "liberal values", you may have to turn-in your Repub conservative membership card...kkkK!
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12-15-23 15:44 #13797
Posts: 1132Despite the Repub Obstructionist...
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
However, it bears repeating, that with all of the DINOs/MAGA Repub "thwarting" measures you've superbly outline above, it just amazing how Biden, has managed an economy this good, this impressive, and this resilient, despite the obstructionists and naysayers.