FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Bonsai]

Staff told girls they were making falling business, when asking too expensive, but they don t care. I think new generation is so frustrated to do this bad job, so they don t want to only be fucked but want to also fuck clients, like Lora. FR tried on her birthday with her regulars, reason why I find higher quality for less expensive with more woman types who ask me when I will return, my big tip being to drive so much to return. Funny is most expensive in FKK land is not for best quality, when I only pay for quality making me dream, when I don t need to pay just to feel lighter. I m happy because I still find high level for 150/60 for real GFE and also for behavior and reactions, asking if I go with others, always funny. Germany is still best value for me in FKK land, but not Sharks casting, but many other clubs.

So this is what you call „real woman GFE" ? When they ask you „when you will come back?" or telling other sweet words?

[Escape Artist]

Unfortunately when I log onto this site especially recently many (for me) irrelevant conversations and backstabbing be it friendly or otherwise seem to dominate the site.

Is it possible for anyone to report back on actual recent line ups, amount of visitors etc. Etc.

I will be back in Germany in a couple of weeks and haven't yet decided whether to visit Palace or Sharks knowing as we all do that maybe a few of the ladies will have returned from their festive holiday.

Nothing to report that would be helpful in 2 weeks. It's Christmas so any report of line ups today will have little resemblance to mid January line ups. Most girls who work everyday per their Christmas contract will take off after new year and be gone for much of January as they do every year.

No one will be able to tell you what it will look like in 2 weeks as girls trickle back in at their unpredictable pace as they do every year.

Girls who left in early December like Brenda or Cataleya plan to be back but on what exact date, no one knows except perhaps some super regulars as girls usually only buy 1 way tickets so they themselves don't even know when they come back.

As for attendance, same as every Christmas. Sausage fest now that will improve in January. Weekday line ups are not good right now. Club gets packed.

On weekend nights. The vibe and attendance is especially desolate during the weekdays. These are things you probably already know.

Current line up is especially heavy in nondescript silicon breasted providers who just look like they would give terrible window girl style service. Expect 200/ HR quote but don't expect that to guarantee good service. Expect 100/30 to be mediocre quickie service.

It's Sharks around the holidays. If you are an experienced monger with high expectations, it will be mediocre to terrible unless you have your regulars.

[Shark16]

Is it possible for anyone to report back on actual recent line ups, amount of visitors etc. Etc.

I will be back in Germany in a couple of weeks and haven't yet decided whether to visit Palace or Sharks knowing as we all do that maybe a few of the ladies will have returned from their festive holiday.

Orthodox New Year is Sunday 14th January 2024. Many girls take a week off during that time or early January. But some choose to take time off this week. I highly doubt anyone is able to predict exactly who is around in two weeks (unless they are a Sharks insider).

First half of January is traditionally a weak period for the FKK clubs: Girls on holiday, and gents hurting because of spending too much money on other stuff during the holidays. I would expect few girls, but also few gents. Please report back after your visit if this made sense.

No recent experience myself, so the following is secondhand info:

Sharks right now is dead prior to 3 pm (10+ girls?), but picks up later with around 80% of normal capacity (reports say 60- 80 girls prior to holiday season, so maybe 50- 70 right now?). Last year 50 girls were confirmed in attendance in early January (just to give you an idea).

Palace has been stable with around 30- 40 girls in attendance prior to holiday season. I assume somewhat weaker in early January (dead in daytime and 20+ in the evenings?), but picks up to 40- 50 for the exhibitions in late January? That's just me trying to give a qualified guess.

[Sirioja]

Like I said to other poster. Don't worry about Asian racism in FKKs. Clearly you will see more of it from angry dorks on forums.

Weather in Germany was terrible in December. Rained quite a lot, basically everyday for 2 weeks. Noticed zero masks at grocery stores, restaurants, banks, Christmas markets, FKKs. People preoccupied with the subject who predicted FKK closures through 2021 seem to take more notice.

In the end, it's just more egos in FKK land. Why these people have so much anger when they should be relaxed from regularly blowing their wad on a hooker is beyond me, suspect some idiopathic etiology of disease.

I think Asian types and other tourists are welcome at Sharks, when girls make losing business to the club. Many girls who have no business with regulars who know about them, like Asians and tourists.

[Long420]

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[Sirioja]

I second this. Even at the new rates, top girls are not making 2000-3000 per day. Yes they may make 2000 to 3000 on a great day but the reality is that they are taking more 30 minute rooms at the 100 e rate and less one hour rooms altogether. Who knows what the actual average daily take-home is for the girls these days but it's not enough to cause a flood of fresh girls, nor a massive exodus beyond the initial post-lockdown exodus. That probably means that incomes are likely much the same as before.

Not a single girl at Sharks is continuously booked. The market is just not supporting that. I saw a rare room wait at Sharks a couple of weeks ago. Four couples were ahead of me but the wait was only about 10 minutes. This means everyone is taking "30 minute" rooms rather than long rooms. And by "30 minutes," I mean quick fuck 20 minute minute rooms.

In the end, what happens is that the top girls win. All girls make less rooms but the top girls end up making the same money for less rooms and time in rooms. I don't even see the top girls disappearing for hours so it seems that they are just taking in 100 e at a time, maybe 150 e with an extra. And even the busiest girls are not doing 15-20 rooms per day.

One of my regulars who is rarely talked about on this board but is popular on the German boards openly stated to me that 500 e on a slow day is okay, 1000 e is usually the goal, and 2000 e is a great day.

Staff told girls they were making falling business, when asking too expensive, but they don t care. I think new generation is so frustrated to do this bad job, so they don t want to only be fucked but want to also fuck clients, like Lora. FR tried on her birthday with her regulars, reason why I find higher quality for less expensive with more woman types who ask me when I will return, my big tip being to drive so much to return. Funny is most expensive in FKK land is not for best quality, when I only pay for quality making me dream, when I don t need to pay just to feel lighter. I m happy because I still find high level for 150/60 for real GFE and also for behavior and reactions, asking if I go with others, always funny. Germany is still best value for me in FKK land, but not Sharks casting, but many other clubs.

[Canary]

Unfortunately when I log onto this site especially recently many (for me) irrelevant conversations and backstabbing be it friendly or otherwise seem to dominate the site.

Is it possible for anyone to report back on actual recent line ups, amount of visitors etc. Etc.

I will be back in Germany in a couple of weeks and haven't yet decided whether to visit Palace or Sharks knowing as we all do that maybe a few of the ladies will have returned from their festive holiday.

[Sirioja]

Been a member there since the site opened. It's basically a Sharks thread much like this site as other clubs also get vastly ignored. Even there, most posters are not locals. German yes, but most are not local.

As for Germans paying tourist rates, they are mostly only guilty of paying 100 per 30 minutes. Rarely do the Germans contribute to the 200/ hour price gouge much less the 250/ HR or 150/30 rate. I assume that they know that for 200/ HR, they can make an appointment with their escort of choice without having to wait or pay an entrance fee.

I'll reiterate, paying 200/ HR at an FKK is dumb mongering, no matter how much someone justifies a girl is worth. It's still an FKK where prices are supposed to allow for quantity of rooms, not one great room. Quality is important but for an FKK sauna club, quantity is supposed to be prioritized. If quality is the priority, the monger should not be in an FKK destroying the concept with their out-of-place justification of ridiculous pricing.

People can talk about tourists but anyone paying 200 for an hour without extras is guilty of contributing to this bad situation themselves.

Germans are not drivers like me all over Germany. They and locals made increasing rates under lockdown when were no tourists and amazing to read on lustscout how they easily pay 4 CE for little girls I would not give 50 . I can understand a Chinese feeling wow and losing control, when just falling from Beijing, but I can t understand so many Germans overpaying for schoolgirls, or they may really have to cure big frustration from not being able to have girlfriends at school. Of course, girls know they can fuck Asians or some other tourists, but this don t make girls monthly income, when what accept to pay Germans and locals make the new rates norm which increased under lockdown and again on 2022 and 2023 , when as a foreigner visiting all over FKK land and escorts, I don t see any girl who is pretty and true fresh GFE enough to pay 200/60 for at Sharks, when some Germans pay 250/60 for Elektra or even more for Simona, for few baby kiss. For me, Germans and locals are more guilty than tourists for inflation from 50 to 150/30 to get few baby kiss and from 100 to 250 or even more for 1 hour with only low GFE. I like Sharks and I find staff improved, but girls are not good value for me in FKK land, as a foreigner who don t like to play tourist, in brothels.

[Sirioja]

Yes I agree, I have been visiting Fkks every year, two three times each quarter. At sharks the line up is same from last few years and 50% girls are same even before corona times whereas OASE have completely new line up. OASE is definitely better value for quality and new girls.

Crina, Melissa, work at Oase since before 2014 . Marina since before 2016 . Sharks is now what was Oase in 2016 , upselling land, when Oase improved since 2019 .

[Escape Artist]

Yes I agree, I have been visiting Fkks every year, two three times each quarter. At sharks the line up is same from last few years and 50% girls are same even before corona times whereas OASE have completely new line up. OASE is definitely better value for quality and new girls.

I do agree with favoring Oase at the moment over Sharks but am fairly certain that Sharks turnover is much greater than 50%. Probably closer to 80% compared to pre-Rona.

Oase is proportionately nearly as good in optics with half the line up size but less overpriced and better average service.

I've always hoped for the day where haggling situation at Oase was better than Sharks. Did not expect it to come in the form of deterioration of Sharks from a pandemic pricing aftermath.

[Escape Artist]

Just urban legends. With their new rates, most girls make less money at the end of month than they made when they were busy at 50 per 30 . But they make more cellulite on ass.

I second this. Even at the new rates, top girls are not making 2000-3000 per day. Yes they may make 2000 to 3000 on a great day but the reality is that they are taking more 30 minute rooms at the 100 e rate and less one hour rooms altogether. Who knows what the actual average daily take-home is for the girls these days but it's not enough to cause a flood of fresh girls, nor a massive exodus beyond the initial post-lockdown exodus. That probably means that incomes are likely much the same as before.

Not a single girl at Sharks is continuously booked. The market is just not supporting that. I saw a rare room wait at Sharks a couple of weeks ago. Four couples were ahead of me but the wait was only about 10 minutes. This means everyone is taking "30 minute" rooms rather than long rooms. And by "30 minutes," I mean quick fuck 20 minute minute rooms.

In the end, what happens is that the top girls win. All girls make less rooms but the top girls end up making the same money for less rooms and time in rooms. I don't even see the top girls disappearing for hours so it seems that they are just taking in 100 e at a time, maybe 150 e with an extra. And even the busiest girls are not doing 15-20 rooms per day.

One of my regulars who is rarely talked about on this board but is popular on the German boards openly stated to me that 500 e on a slow day is okay, 1000 e is usually the goal, and 2000 e is a great day.

[Tintin1]

I find it very difficult to swallow that. The very reason Americans travel all the way to Germany is for cheap sex. Back in the day it was 50/30 and 100/60. Perhaps a few may have tipped and that tip may have just been EUR20 or so. You cannot paint all Americans with the same brush.

The original assumption that Americans didn't arrive til later is incorrect. They were at the same Trade Fairs as the rest of the world. Especially by the start of the 90's Maybe not every trade but enough. But happy to be the scape goat for why the entire industry got expensive. I did once tip a girl.

[HammerTime96]

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[Escape Artist]

When mostly tourists here, but You should read german lustscout for Germans and locals, to understand better what became Sharks. Under lockdown, Germans started to pay 100/30 or 150/60 , when only Melissa ex Palace asked 150/60 before covid and still on same rate. Now they pay 250/60 for Elektra or Simona I would not pay for. Some Germans proposed thousands to my rare German I paid 150/60 or 200/80 and she asked to repeat. Some are turning crazy for little Romanians looking like schoolgirl, or when a fresh natural German.

Been a member there since the site opened. It's basically a Sharks thread much like this site as other clubs also get vastly ignored. Even there, most posters are not locals. German yes, but most are not local.

As for Germans paying tourist rates, they are mostly only guilty of paying 100 per 30 minutes. Rarely do the Germans contribute to the 200/ hour price gouge much less the 250/ HR or 150/30 rate. I assume that they know that for 200/ HR, they can make an appointment with their escort of choice without having to wait or pay an entrance fee.

I'll reiterate, paying 200/ HR at an FKK is dumb mongering, no matter how much someone justifies a girl is worth. It's still an FKK where prices are supposed to allow for quantity of rooms, not one great room. Quality is important but for an FKK sauna club, quantity is supposed to be prioritized. If quality is the priority, the monger should not be in an FKK destroying the concept with their out-of-place justification of ridiculous pricing.

People can talk about tourists but anyone paying 200 for an hour without extras is guilty of contributing to this bad situation themselves.

[The Cane]

For the past two decades, Germany has welcome Millions of International visitors from around the world for Trade shows.

International Motor Show.

Frankfurt Book Fair.

IFA.

Bauhaus.

The first visitors of FKK were the Germans, followed by the Italians, then French, then Dutch, then Japanese, then Koreans, then Chinese.

None of these trade shows or Europeans or Asians has affected the price of FKK. The price remained 50 for 30 minutes for two decades.

Then the US tourists arrived polluting the girls and telling them how much they could make if they worked in the US.

The US tourists started to tip the girls 50 euro and one by one the dominos began to tumble.

The Hessen region became polluted with these tourist that come for July 4th, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Don't give them any advice. There is nothing to share. They only destroy what we built for 20 years.

The hike in prices has zero to do with Americans overpaying, and it has everything to do with what Germans did to their own institutions. The imposition of the condom law for BJs created an opening for greedy, unscrupulous prostitutes to take advantage of the situation and tack on a 50 euro surcharge for everybody, regardless of nationality, who wanted to keep on getting BBBJs, which was virtually every monger. I'm sure that many with regulars who they gave steady business to were able to stay at the old rates, but for everybody else it was pretty much pay up or give it up. It has nothing to do with American tourism to Germany. The situation came about because of the Germans themselves with their interfering laws, plus inflationary pressures. People are always great for blaming others for all of their problems!