Manila

[Goferring]

As long as we have ISG and Goferring, romance will never be dead.

What can I say? I'm a classy guy.

Hard to believe that western women won't fuck me and I have to resort to impoverished and illiterate village girls, isn't it? 😁.

Cheers. G.

[KumuMan]

A couple of points:

Montana Manager's point is correct in that hookers "should" be mechanical and purely commercial but, in the Philippines, this isn't always the case. I've lost track of the number of professional girls I've had a great time with and been happy to keep for weeks at a time.

With respect, I can guarantee that the SB is telling the same stories to other guys and has several sponsors on the line at the same time.

It's your money and you are free to spend it any way you see fit. However, you seem concerned about loosing her if you do not maintain progress payments while you are back home. This has literally never happened to me. Girls have always been happy to see me when I've popped up in town, dick in one hand and cash in the other, despite having not chatted / paid them in my absence.

You didn't mention her allowance expectations but if you are still concerned, then calculate the total that you will pay over the X months you are away. How popular do you think you will be if you arrive and offer her a fraction of this amount for a night / week's fun?

Enjoy. G.

HOOK BAIT SINK HER Only a fool believes, the wise man has the power but do agree that damn pussy does too.

[NRandom940]

IMHO Lips is the best if you're also looking for the most attractive girls. They also have the most to choose from, which also helps with selection. However most any bar in the Burgos area can meet your needs on any given night.

Thanks. I'll go to Lips. I'll let you know how it goes.

[WestCoast1]

AGirls have always been happy to see me when I've popped up in town, dick in one hand and cash in the other, despite having not chatted / paid them in my absence.

As long as we have ISG and Goferring, romance will never be dead.

[TjBrazil]

Thank you Westcoat1, Goffering, MrHC, them.

I find SA is bit tricky and its really difficult to find a SB whom you would love to spend time and have intimacy. Most of the girls are into Mechanical arrangements / PPM which I don't like at all.

Luckily, I found a lovely college girl who is 10/10 on looks and figure and want to be my GF forever but at the same time she needs money too. So keep insisting on sending some money till the time I visit her next time. Sometime for food, sometime for mother's health.

I know I will be sending money for nothing in return but hope all experienced SDs can understand how it is difficult and tiresome to find quality girl for the next time. I am active on SA for sometime only, all guidance and suggestions are appreciated from all senior members.

Never give money to a ho unless you are getting something sex related in exchange. Only idiots send money to " keep her exclusive ". Yea right. She will be a nun while you're gone.

[Goferring]

Thank you Westcoat1, Goffering, MrHC, them.

I find SA is bit tricky and its really difficult to find a SB whom you would love to spend time and have intimacy. Most of the girls are into Mechanical arrangements / PPM which I don't like at all.

Luckily, I found a lovely college girl who is 10/10 on looks and figure and want to be my GF forever but at the same time she needs money too. So keep insisting on sending some money till the time I visit her next time. Sometime for food, sometime for mother's health.

I know I will be sending money for nothing in return but hope all experienced SDs can understand how it is difficult and tiresome to find quality girl for the next time. I am active on SA for sometime only, all guidance and suggestions are appreciated from all senior members.

A couple of points:

Montana Manager's point is correct in that hookers "should" be mechanical and purely commercial but, in the Philippines, this isn't always the case. I've lost track of the number of professional girls I've had a great time with and been happy to keep for weeks at a time.

With respect, I can guarantee that the SB is telling the same stories to other guys and has several sponsors on the line at the same time.

It's your money and you are free to spend it any way you see fit. However, you seem concerned about loosing her if you do not maintain progress payments while you are back home. This has literally never happened to me. Girls have always been happy to see me when I've popped up in town, dick in one hand and cash in the other, despite having not chatted / paid them in my absence.

You didn't mention her allowance expectations but if you are still concerned, then calculate the total that you will pay over the X months you are away. How popular do you think you will be if you arrive and offer her a fraction of this amount for a night / week's fun?

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

The whole reason why I hang out in the barangays is I have girls on retainer for the price of what philipplipinas calls "chicheria" or their utang at the local sarisari store, I clear that utang (loan) and they give me sex this utang can be almost nothing. You not having tried to find girls in the province of which wouldn't put themselves on SA to begin with you have no idea the world of GFE that the philippines has to offer and just figure that massively over paying and paying on a monthly basis for these low quality ridden hard women is the way to go. For any newbies this method is not the way to go for the "philippines".

Actually going to the provence and building an actual network of girls is much more fruitful and why philippines mongers keep coming back over the years.

In the big scheme of things i guess this means my barangay girls are safe for another decade since these guys don't want any real quality. tbh all you can do is offer a better way and help but its up to them to put that effort in.

I too have built up the provincial stable. However its not really feasible for the 2-week warrior. Leave them to the SB's and gogo bars. Its more provincial GFE poon for you and me.

[Member #4794]

Most of the girls are into Mechanical arrangements / PPM which I don't like at all.

Not in the philippines, MOST if not all of the girls I have ever met in the Philippines offer closeness and intimacy, this IS the selling point for the philippines as a whole.

The whole reason why I hang out in the barangays is I have girls on retainer for the price of what pinays calls "chicheria" or their utang at the local sarisari store, I clear that utang (loan) and they give me sex this utang can be almost nothing. You not having tried to find girls in the province of which wouldn't put themselves on SA to begin with you have no idea the world of GFE that the philippines has to offer and just figure that massively over paying and paying on a monthly basis for these low quality ridden hard women is the way to go. For any newbies this method is not the way to go for the "philippines".

Sorry if I offend anyone and I shouldn't generalise but Sugar Daddies seem to be the biggest simps on the planet and happy to be lead by the nose where ever girls want to take them usually at $100's a time.

I agree they seem to be proud of themselves and thin SD is somehow a badge of honor not understanding that mongers have been doing this without that site for decades and for the most part much more profitable. But I mean what they are doing is not the way to go about doing this. Actually going to the provence and building an actual network of girls is much more fruitful and why philippines mongers keep coming back over the years. What these guys do is take some kinda of Western construct and use that and get ripped off VS adapting to where this kind of dating came from they are just lead astray imo.

In the big scheme of things i guess this means my barangay girls are safe for another decade since these guys don't want any real quality. tbh all you can do is offer a better way and help but its up to them to put that effort in.

[Member #4794]

Now she is asking money on the monthly basis...

If you are a fan of overpaying, paying for nothing / simping has to get your juices flowing.

[WestCoast1]

IMHO Lips is the best if you're also looking for the most attractive girls. They also have the most to choose from, which also helps with selection. However most any bar in the Burgos area can meet your needs on any given night.

Lips is also my fav. Next door is Maison bar, often with 60-100 girls. A short 1-2 minute walk up Burgos street is V-8 bar, smaller selection but attractive girls. Cost for any of these bars is about $200 all-in for the night (that pays the barfine, drinks in the bar, and the girl's tip in the morning). Please RTTF thru the Makati thread.

[HunterMonger]

Indeed, SA has become an escort site. Even some non pro girls are into PPM only and do not want any exclusive relation as this might bring down their monthly allowances from different Sds. Bygone are the days when mistresses were exclusive to one man, now almost every girl thinks its their right to see many men despite any man offering an exclusive relationship.

I think my sb is descent girl and she is just into me but I can see she is active on SA nearly everyday. That scares me. Even after spending good money I don't think that satisfies her monetary need.

SB is supposed to be something between a mistress and an escort. A mistress is supposed to be exclusive to you, available whenever you want and in return you support her almost completely. It is an open ended relationship with no fixed end date. A SB may not be exclusive (but can) and is usually a Short term contract. SB will spend more time with you and companionship is part of the expectations along with sex. We all know what escorts are.

However, after the advent of sites like SA, SB are much closer to escort than mistress. Hardly any are exclusive and many do PPM which is just another word for hooking. Years ago when I was sugaring there were genuine non pro girls who needed some financial help and acted as casual girlfriends on demand. That I think has gone the way of the 500 P LT.

[Houston Player]

I have one night layover, staying in a hotel in Makati. What is your opinion on the best place if I want to bring one (maybe two) girls back to my hotel for the whole night?

IMHO Lips is the best if you're also looking for the most attractive girls. They also have the most to choose from, which also helps with selection. However most any bar in the Burgos area can meet your needs on any given night.

[Expat American]

A question for the SB gents. I thought the idea behind SB is that SD's routinely provide the occasional between-meetups some flowers, money for nice clothes, or other nice items for the girl. Its almost like dating from afar, showing up in her town for occasional weekends, or alternately flying her into your town for trysts. I know two SB's in my country who describe it exactly as that. They have multiple 'clients' who pay them for their time a few days here and there, and the various clients provide other between-meet items such as money for rent, clothes, an evening out with her friends, paying utility bills, and so on. I get the feeling that those ladies would drop quickly any client who stopped giving money for her between-meetup needs.

Given this, I can understand HM's desire to send money while he is away; might not his SB in Phils legitimately expect it? If not, is she a SB, or simply an escort?

SB is supposed to be something between a mistress and an escort. A mistress is supposed to be exclusive to you, available whenever you want and in return you support her almost completely. It is an open ended relationship with no fixed end date. A SB may not be exclusive (but can) and is usually a Short term contract. SB will spend more time with you and companionship is part of the expectations along with sex. We all know what escorts are.

However, after the advent of sites like SA, SB are much closer to escort than mistress. Hardly any are exclusive and many do PPM which is just another word for hooking. Years ago when I was sugaring there were genuine non pro girls who needed some financial help and acted as casual girlfriends on demand. That I think has gone the way of the 500 P LT.

[WestCoast1]

Prices in Euros, roughly the same rate as USD:

I can add some input to this topic as I've been to a couple of FKKs in the past year and researched a few in Frankfurt.

Germany and more specifically Frankfurt are by far the best destination for FKKs still. FKK Sharks is regarded as the best. Prices have gone up with standard half hour service (no extras) being 70 or even more. Extras like BBBJ cost 50. I'm not familiar with any club in Europe offering BBFS. Club entrance fees have also gone up to around 95, think it is less at Sharks and the Frankfurt clubs.

The clubs I went to were Goldentime in Vienna and Sauna Club Prague. Goldentime in Vienna was great, although a little pricey with 30 minutes standard service starting at 100. I do love having drinks in a club surrounded by gorgeous naked women though, and would recommend that everyone here tries this experience at least once. It's a shame that quality of most clubs has gone downhill, as mentioned above there is a significant amount of Romanians in these clubs whose service is lacklustre. That's why selecting a good girl is key and not being pressured by the first girl who flirts with you. I remember walking into GT and straight away two Moldovan girls grabbing my arm and starting some heavy persuasion.

SNIP

My patience was rewarded at GT as I had an amazing time with a pale, auburn haired Hungarian who had an amazing natural body. She gave me an awesome GFE for 200.

Informative comparative post-covid post. I believe previous reports were of pre-covid. I contacted two non-euro mates who frequented the FKK's before covid. They also report to me that the girls started going condom before covid. The FKK's appear to be a god-send for Euros in the area who can get there on small coin, even at the higher recent prices reported by RPR. However, a scroll thru other Euro countries shows difficulties for mongers to find singular destinations like FKK clubs or asian gogo bars (or FL places), hunting down escort agencies, fake pictures, high prices (see my previous report quoting LKS2021, post #19932 in this thread).

For about $200 (100 entrance fee + 100 to the girl) you can enter an FKK and have 1 girl (and cross-euro beauties, even if its a short 30 minutes), then stay and have more girls in the same day for another $100. That same $300 for 2 FKK girls (1 hour total) can get you 1 girl in the US for an hour (covered only), but not necessarily a beauty (plan $500). For those outside the euro-zone, adding in flights / hotels makes asia look better (the Filipina goes to *your* place, its uncovered; AC = $75 for up to LT, or easily ST of several hours; Burgos = $200 for LT at your place; FL = $50-$100 for several hours or LT at your place). Asian girls also are *a bit more* akin to allowing pics: While there are more than 19,000 pics in the Phils PG, there are 139 PG pics for Germany, 138 for France, and 220 for the UK.

They are just different animals. Good work Rprogta.

[HunterMonger]

Thank you Westcoat1, Goffering, MrHC, them.

I find SA is bit tricky and its really difficult to find a SB whom you would love to spend time and have intimacy. Most of the girls are into Mechanical arrangements / PPM which I don't like at all.

Luckily, I found a lovely college girl who is 10/10 on looks and figure and want to be my GF forever but at the same time she needs money too. So keep insisting on sending some money till the time I visit her next time. Sometime for food, sometime for mother's health.

I know I will be sending money for nothing in return but hope all experienced SDs can understand how it is difficult and tiresome to find quality girl for the next time. I am active on SA for sometime only, all guidance and suggestions are appreciated from all senior members.

HM we have seen this issue before. There is not really a good way to send money internationally to someone without disclosing your personal info. Many governments don't allow it as they won't know who is sending money to terrorists. Remit services, and general transfer services (ie, Venmo or such) would require bank account info or full name info.

Another way to do it would be to remit the money in Phils to someone you trust, who would then GC or remit the money to your SB for you.