Pattaya Reports

[LittleBigMan]

Certainly no expert at all!

There was an article the other day on As--and, in regards to this topic explanation from tax attorneys. I tried to go back and locate the story and paste it here but sadly I can't find it at the moment even then I'm not sure how to paste etc get it on this board.

People should be concerned because I fall into this category but living here for so many years I hear things thrown out by their leaders and you wonder and just wonder. So I'm just going to take a wait-and-see attitude until!

What I do remember reading is you get a pass this year because the Thai who opened this can of worms did not have a clue as to what he or she did. When it was brought up was mainly to target " Thais " earning money abroad and bringing it back to Thailand, enforcing was rightly so but it opened a whole can for expats and foreigners living here. Without a real clarification like everything the rumors running crazy. I hear ex-pats talk and what I hear is totally hearsay and even false because so and so told meM.

The key is how are they going to enforce it and will they see what they have open will they. What I got from the story was every country is different for the USA There is a treaty or agreement you can't take the Social Security pension. You can't double-tax an individual. Myself, although living here I file a tax return every year in the States for my S. S. And company allowance. From my understanding, Britain has no such agreement for example.

From my IRA, 401 K, etc. I have delayed taking it but will need to soon what I take out is added to my ordinary income and taxes are paid based on my bracket. So it assumes falls also into the Double taxing rule. The money I have shipped or brought over from the States through the years sits in my Thai bank and the interest given to the bank takes the taxes out from there so I've covered.

In the fine print, there are provisions on how long you stay and how you ship or spend here a year that require you to file a return. Most of the extra money I might ship comes from earnings already taxed come from earning before 2024. If one does file would need to provide proof of such. So look at what I have written lots and confusing so how is a Thai going to sort all this out if one does decide to file? Then I read from the article the website is only in Thai! Do people see where this is going?

There are tons of ifs at the end the Lawyers say if you need to file nothing to worry the tax law is so lacking that they provide tons of exemptions for tons of reasons the average person isn't going to pay a baht. But like myself, the last thing I need to add to my list is filing a tax return. So for myself, I'm not going to do one but what I plan to do for this year is just forward my S. S. And pension using Wise twice a month. If they ever get that fall when I fail for my extension and they ask me why I will prove to them I'm living out totally on the two which under the agreement can't be taxed again by your government so no filing is necessary.

Meantime the extra I've been bringing when rates are to my advantage will stop. All the extra will be brought when I go home once or twice a year whatever the limit of 10,000-20,000 I will carry it here myself or have my trusted family members visit to bring it over and laundry it. If all goes wrong there is the wait-and-see as to what agents can do to obtain extensions without all the nonsense. Worse come to worse I will need to spend time away from my Thai family and travel to other countries nearby but I'm not filing for now will hold tight!

[EihTooms]

To any of the big accounting firms. They are adamant no change for anyone with a double taxation treaty. Do you really think your American bank is sending info to the Thai tax authorities? FFS. Biggest non event ever. It's not aimed at farangs. Why don't you read a little more or speak to one of the big accountancy firms.

Yes, that is what I have read as well.

Being from a country that has that Treaty in place, I was hoping to find a mention of the general change on the Thai Immigration website, such as, "In the case of extending an O-A Non Immigrant Visa for an expat not from a country with the No Double Taxation Treaty, these are the current conditions and required documents, blah, blah, blah. ".

But as of 2 days ago I did not see any reference to it.

[BionicMan]

To any of the big accounting firms. They are adamant no change for anyone with a double taxation treaty. Do you really think your American bank is sending info to the Thai tax authorities? FFS. Biggest non event ever. It's not aimed at farangs. Why don't you read a little more or speak to one of the big accountancy firms.

USA tax authorities and banks are known for those being the most demanding in terms of acquiring information (useful for them) but, at the same token the more restricted to pass on the same level of information (from their own data bank) to other countries. Wherever you open a bank account or take action in some financial operation in many countries, you are deemed to fill a form specifically referring to your position, if any, with US tax authorities. As they might have to communicate info to them.

It's all about bilateral agreements where the US have gained more data power.

Nevertheless more banks or financial institutions have to follow their country rules to acquire foreign tax position of citizens of other countries, regardless they are residents.

[Forty Drinks]

Ah, I see. Then it is interesting that there is no mention on the Thai Immigration website that officially warns or notifies us that we'd better start counting the days we live here for the purposes of tax liability for this year. At least, I did not see one yet.

Our Guinea Pig.

Have you been staying in Thailand over 180 days and been Filing tax forms?

This stuff may not be targeting us but we are the Collateral damage.

[Forty Drinks]

To any of the big accounting firms. They are adamant no change for anyone with a double taxation treaty. Do you really think your American bank is sending info to the Thai tax authorities? FFS. Biggest non event ever. It's not aimed at farangs. Why don't you read a little more or speak to one of the big accountancy firms.

If Ben Hart the you tuber doesn't know what's going on I doubt a Big Accounting firm does.

It really doesn't matter what Official Guidlines are, I guarantee immigration or whoever will do what they want.

Its not so much the Tax I'm worried about its the Paperper Work involved to file even if you owe Noting.

[Neidermeyer]

- Another bar that has full nudity is Top Gun in LK Metro. There was a girl on the small stage who was nude. But none of the raunchy stuff like the other bars.

So far, these are the bars I found that has full nudity:

1 & 2) Windmill 1 and Windmill 2 in Walking Street. Raunchy stuff on first and second floor.

3) Kink in LK Metro. Raunchy stuff only on the second floor.

4) Angels in LK Metro. Raunchy stuff only on the second floor.

Any others?

Greenbud,

Thanks for this summary. With the recent closure of Dollhouse and Electric Blue (two one of my favorites) along with Beavers and Crazyhouse among others that never made it back after COVID, it seems there's now quite a dearth of full nude, high contact gogos in Pattaya these days. That said, I'm happy to learn about Angels in LK Metro. I haven't been there yet but hope to check it out on my upcoming visit.

Do you gents have intel on other gogos where full nude high mileage fun can be had? It seems perhaps gentlemen's clubs are becoming the place for this these days. Curious to know what others think on this subject.

Cheers,

Neidermeyer.

[Explorer8939]

KKK! Either the OP is out of his mind and has a lot of money to burn or he is in love with his Thai girl. Taking a Thai girl to Brazil is like flying a dump truck of sand to the beach and paying for the freight. But in all fairness, I have entertained the idea of taking my favorite Sao Paulo girl to Thailand. My fantasy daydream lasts for about a minute or so, however.

This will be the third year in a row that I have taken a Thai lady to Brazil.

I may take a Mexican lady to Thailand next year.

[Cusland]

I had a Nightmare. I'm at interview trying to explain how my USA Preferred stock dividends is qualified meaning in USA no tax. Somchai say this not USA and say I pay $2,000. If not pay cannot cum Thailand. Hahaha 🤣. Hahaha.

Could I think this scenario is possible. Hell Yes.

I faced major corruption in trying to get my EZ peady 30 day extension in this last trip.

Thought it was a one off then I saw post on ASEAN News the exact same thing that happened to me happened to the Poster.

To any of the big accounting firms. They are adamant no change for anyone with a double taxation treaty. Do you really think your American bank is sending info to the Thai tax authorities? FFS. Biggest non event ever. It's not aimed at farangs. Why don't you read a little more or speak to one of the big accountancy firms.

[EihTooms]

This year is the year to watch your days in Thailand to not fall under Residency status.

My fear is next year is when all the Chaos will start for those Deemed Tax Residents.

Ah, I see. Then it is interesting that there is no mention on the Thai Immigration website that officially warns or notifies us that we'd better start counting the days we live here for the purposes of tax liability for this year. At least, I did not see one yet.

[LAHenry]

Longtime: Yeha most would say 2 pops and a night. Always ASK. Before would be around 12 hours with you (nighttime) but these days some say 2 hours is LT. So ASK ASK ASK.

For your other issue. No need to involve the hotel. And if you did nothing (aka still dress) just kick her out and give her 100 THB for the motorbike. If you already did something. Aka complain afterwards. Pay the girl and cut your losses.

Thanks, for the tips. Some of the stunners on TF often ask ' How much are you paying me? I don't get that ask from non-stunners. The non-stunners are 7 to 9, out of 10, but they are not stunners, 9 and above. Off course they get upset if they don't like the price I quote. I had one girl ask 20 K. Off course I am not going to pay that, but I am sure there is a sucker who will.

Pricing question: I plan to try WS and LK agogos tomorrow. Next day, I will try the GCs. Is the pricing more standardized there? What should I expect?

[Forty Drinks]

I have a strong hunch this tax thing will be very short lived. I think it will be too complicated to administer in the long term.

May I suggest your next name change: SixMonths.

Say its Jan. 2025. Immigration computers Flags you for staying 200 days in 2024.

Immigration ask for Tax Return cleareance. You say no HAB. Going to do it later.

Will Somchai let you go.

Playing with FIRE meThink.

Could I be crying like a little chicken. Yes!

We shall see how it turns out.

[Forty Drinks]

As of yesterday on the Thai Immigration website there was no change in the instructions or the list of documents required in order to extend an O-A Non Immigrant (Long Stay) visa vs last year. No mention at all of tax information, tax documents, anything.

I will be extending mine in a few months. Unless I see a change on their website, I suppose the Immigration Officer will just be springing a big surprise about it on me and everyone else there for the same purpose.

Of course, I will check again a day or two before I go and print out the full instructions so we can all have a fine time comparing notes.

This year is the year to watch your days in Thailand to not fall under Residency status.

My fear is next year is when all the Chaos will start for those Deemed Tax Residents.

[Axel Heyst]

2 months in Brazil and taking a Thai girl. There's a first. Guess hobbying sucks in Brazil now.

KKK! Either the OP is out of his mind and has a lot of money to burn or he is in love with his Thai girl. Taking a Thai girl to Brazil is like flying a dump truck of sand to the beach and paying for the freight. But in all fairness, I have entertained the idea of taking my favorite Sao Paulo girl to Thailand. My fantasy daydream lasts for about a minute or so, however.

[MartinFlevo]

Hello, I'm in Pattaya now.

(1) long time: All my long time offers have been for two shots only. Is this the norm? How many hours is long time typically? If it's whole night, why do girls say more than 2 shots cost more? Note: I have only done short time.



(2) send a girl back: a freelancer came over from thai friendly, and she did not agree to perform certain acts we had discussed. She said she doesn't like to kiss. I wanted to send her home but wasn't sure how to do that (tell hotel? What to pay for taxi? What to pay her to leave without any drama? It was a mediocre experience as I went through with it. Specifically, what is the way to kick her out when she does not agree to perform the things we discussed?

Longtime: Yeha most would say 2 pops and a night. Always ASK. Before would be around 12 hours with you (nighttime) but these days some say 2 hours is LT. So ASK ASK ASK.

For your other issue. No need to involve the hotel. And if you did nothing (aka still dress) just kick her out and give her 100 THB for the motorbike. If you already did something. Aka complain afterwards. Pay the girl and cut your losses.

[Explorer8939]

Thanks for the reply.

The costs add up travelling with a girl with airfare, food and money to the girl. I will stick to ST LOL.

Actually, if you go with a lady Long Time, you have to pay for hotel, food and money. The marginal cost of the travel is airfare.

For short trips, it's not much money.