Seeking Arrangements

[Gfefan]

I think our community here is in the dark to a certain extent.

I recently had a 55 year old guy take my SB on a platonic dinner date and paid her 1 K. Apparently, he also filled up her gas tank and gave her a handbag.

I know this because she told me before going on the date and filling me in details after.

I was expecting her to go "So, I think our deal of 300 for non-platonic ppm needs revisited" and I was fully prepared to walk off. Then, she went, "But that guy was disrespectful in how he spoke to me at dinner table. He was also showing me off to the waitress as if I am his trophy. I am glad I have someone like you who treats me with respect even when we have sex. I am not going to see that guy anymore".

I breathed a sigh. This girl has a good head on her shoulders. Keeping her.

Try as I might, I have yet to find this unicorn that is the man willing to pay a girl for a platonic sugar relationship.

I'm not saying they don't exist. They must or these profiles wouldn't exist. Somebody must know somebody who knew somebody who knows somebody who knew somebody who once talked to somebody who had a sugar daddy that did that. But I can't imagine what dude gets into that and how shitty his life must be to even consider it.

[Elvis 2008]

I've stumbled upon the fact that Jakarta seems to be loaded with low priced hotties in clubs like Classic. Like Bangkok used to be. Very active thread here. I hope to sample soon and will report back to my Seeking buds. Let me know if anyone gets there first!

I was not in the game when I was in Jakarta, but when I was in Paraguay, there were so many abundant hot women that promoters would pay them to promote cereals ETC in the grocery store. Can you imagine that in the USA? A hot 16 year old standing in the cereal aisle being paid to just stand there and wear a t-shirt promoting a cereal?

In the USA if you want help at a department store, a lot of times you have to jump on the counter and wave a red flag and yell. Okay, I am exaggerating slightly. Granted it was a while ago, but when I was in Indonesia, there were scores of hot women. If you were in the cologne department at a store, you could not look at anything without being swarmed with offers by beautiful women to help.

Thing is Jakarta's the definition of third world shithole: crowded, hot, humid, and polluted. It was weird traveling from Singapore to Malaysia to Indonesia in that the amount of resources went up but the amount of wealth went down. I mentioned that to an English guy who lived in Asia for decades, and he said, "Yes, but the other thing is the wealth goes down where there are fewer Chinese", and this was right before China blew up.

If I wanted to do mass fucking, I would suck it up and stay in Jakarta. But if I went the sugar baby route, I would find women in Jakarta and fly them to Bali. Still, people think that beautiful spiritual holy island is a wonderful place free of corruption, but as the author of Eat / PrayLove found, scamming in Indonesia and Bali is rampant.

My favorite kind of women are those that can move their hips fast. When I think of those kinds of women, the two places you could always find them were Latin American and Polynesia / Hawaii. Thing is when I was in Bali, they had a group that did a song and dance Hello, and the women moved like the Hawaiians.

Where I have found the best women is often off the beaten trail: Sao Paulo over Rio, Bogota over Medellin, and if I were hunting sugar babies in Asia, my first stop would not be somewhere in Thailand or the Philippines but Indonesia and Jakarta in particular. And part of that is less competition. Who the hell wants to go and stay in Jakarta?

When I was in Colombia, another country where scamming is rampant, and was looking for women, I ran into a few women who went out of there way to show they were not scammers. I would think and bet that there are some women in Indonesia who would be like that too.

[FilthyBeaver]

Interestingly, my last seeking account was the only account that I never made any meaningful connection or meet-up. As a reminder I delete mine once my subscription expires and start anew when the itch needs to be scratched. There was an amazingly gorgeous girl who was the primary reason for my creating that particular account but she wouldn't give me the time of day. No response, no FU, nothing. A couple weeks in she changed her profile to say something to the effect that she's only looking for a platonic relationship and anybody worth her time would understand. Just before I closed the account that absurd statement was gone.

I'm guessing they get educated really quick and if they want the money they figure out how to rationalize it. If they don't, they delete their profiles and it's off to dating broke college guys.

Try as I might, I have yet to find this unicorn that is the man willing to pay a girl for a platonic sugar relationship.

I'm not saying they don't exist. They must or these profiles wouldn't exist. Somebody must know somebody who knew somebody who knows somebody who knew somebody who once talked to somebody who had a sugar daddy that did that. But I can't imagine what dude gets into that and how shitty his life must be to even consider it.

[AmericanPi]

I've been doing seeking for about 4 years in a tier one coastal city so there's no shortage of hotties but I am seeing absurd profiles that say platonic and other nonsense of the like. I guess if you're 80 and can't get it up it may work for you but those girls ate just plain delusional.

Try as I might, I have yet to find this unicorn that is the man willing to pay a girl for a platonic sugar relationship.

I'm not saying they don't exist. They must or these profiles wouldn't exist. Somebody must know somebody who knew somebody who knows somebody who knew somebody who once talked to somebody who had a sugar daddy that did that. But I can't imagine what dude gets into that and how shitty his life must be to even consider it.

[VanessasClient]

I'm on a long trip in the Midwest (in a city like St. Louis, Denver, etc.). I decided to check out SA after many years of not being super active on it. Wow, the scene has changed a lot. Way, way fewer SBs, and way, way worse quality. There are more SBs in their 30's and 40's than in their 20's, and the fact that almost everyone lies about their age makes this even more astonishing. And the new wishlist thing is a turnoff.

About nine years ago, I was super active on SA, and in about a dozen USA cities, ranging from large cities like San Francisco, Seattle, etc. , to smaller cities like Portland, Providence, Rochester, etc. , and it was great.

So, has SA gone downhill in the USA, or does it just take more skill to navigate it?

My personal experience attempting to use it in the USA resulted in total basura, beyond any measure. I had success using it in the Dominic Republic. I haven't landed in Brazil yet, but my communications with SA women from there are going smoothly thus far, unlike the US. So for my opinion, SA in the US is a complete waste of time and money. Maybe others feel differently. Possible exception for Puerto Rico, or other territorial locations. But for the 50 named states, no way. Just a bunch of morons with a grandiose sense of entitlement, who want to sell their onlyfans pages. Even if you do find a good looking girl who is willing to get her knees dirty, chances are she will demand a long term contract. Maybe it will work for you if you don't have a problem making a commitment. But on that note, if you are willing to make a long term commitment, might as well get married

[Steve 9696]

Inflation affects everything including pussy. I remember grandma saying she could get a whole bag of candy for 3 cents. Every place I've ever mongered has gone downhill over the years. Thailand used to be a mecca for what I'm looking for (what Thai guys want, tiny spinners with white skin). They are a dying breed as are the venues they're found at. Gentrification has all but decimated the soapy scene in Bangkok where a girl far away from family could feel safe in the house and everything online is so photoshopped that the only thing you can believe is the price.

I've been doing seeking for about 4 years in a tier one coastal city so there's no shortage of hotties but I am seeing absurd profiles that say platonic and other nonsense of the like. I guess if you're 80 and can't get it up it may work for you but those girls ate just plain delusional.

I've stumbled upon the fact that Jakarta seems to be loaded with low priced hotties in clubs like Classic. Like Bangkok used to be. Very active thread here. I hope to sample soon and will report back to my Seeking buds. Let me know if anyone gets there first!

[AmericanPi]

lUnder 21 can't drink at the restaurant and yes they get carded so I wrote that off.

Had a date with an 18 year old a while back in the 909 (people in so-cal will know it). Interesting twist: I was surprised how much less expensive the bill was. Minor side benefit.

[FilthyBeaver]

Inflation affects everything including pussy. I remember grandma saying she could get a whole bag of candy for 3 cents. Every place I've ever mongered has gone downhill over the years. Thailand used to be a mecca for what I'm looking for (what Thai guys want, tiny spinners with white skin). They are a dying breed as are the venues they're found at. Gentrification has all but decimated the soapy scene in Bangkok where a girl far away from family could feel safe in the house and everything online is so photoshopped that the only thing you can believe is the price.

I've been doing seeking for about 4 years in a tier one coastal city so there's no shortage of hotties but I am seeing absurd profiles that say platonic and other nonsense of the like. I guess if you're 80 and can't get it up it may work for you but those girls ate just plain delusional.

I'm on a long trip in the Midwest (in a city like St. Louis, Denver, etc.). I decided to check out SA after many years of not being super active on it. Wow, the scene has changed a lot. Way, way fewer SBs, and way, way worse quality. There are more SBs in their 30's and 40's than in their 20's, and the fact that almost everyone lies about their age makes this even more astonishing. And the new wishlist thing is a turnoff.

About nine years ago, I was super active on SA, and in about a dozen USA cities, ranging from large cities like San Francisco, Seattle, etc. , to smaller cities like Portland, Providence, Rochester, etc. , and it was great.

So, has SA gone downhill in the USA, or does it just take more skill to navigate it?

[Steve 9696]

I'm on a long trip in the Midwest (in a city like St. Louis, Denver, etc.). I decided to check out SA after many years of not being super active on it. Wow, the scene has changed a lot. Way, way fewer SBs, and way, way worse quality. There are more SBs in their 30's and 40's than in their 20's, and the fact that almost everyone lies about their age makes this even more astonishing. And the new wishlist thing is a turnoff.

About nine years ago, I was super active on SA, and in about a dozen USA cities, ranging from large cities like San Francisco, Seattle, etc. , to smaller cities like Portland, Providence, Rochester, etc. , and it was great.

So, has SA gone downhill in the USA, or does it just take more skill to navigate it?

Nice to see quite a few threads rolling in here and welcome back MW. Midwestern is the OG Seeking dude and originator of this forum. I remember when it was pretty much just MW and me talking into the void a few years back. LOL.

Yes MW Seeking in the states really bites compared to rest of world. But it's the only game in town. You will really have to be on constantly and weed and feed like crazy. Unfortunately prices suck too. Even after and exhausting and exhaustive search If you pull a quality girl for 500 you are shooting par for the course. 400 is a tough sell and below that is likely not happening. If you aren't here long I suggest the Steve spam. "Going out to a nice dinner and drinks tonight. Join me?" This has worked several times with great results actually a few times in the Midwest!

In going bareback I've prob done it more than is wise but I always pull out. At my age my shot is about 1/2 inch LOL but I pull out anyhow except with girls I know well and trust are on BC. I have gone raw twice with pros which I don't recommend but I'm both cases when I was hard to finish they mounted up raw. Actually I've had that happen four times, but only two were pros. I do get tested from time to time. There is very little I can catch that isn't curable these days. But obv each has our own tolerance.

On age I think I am the oldest here, more than a decade older than most of you, but pass for much younger. I date exclusively 21-25 and it's no problem at all. My mistress I met when she was 23 and she turns 26 soon. I actually enjoy her world that is so different from mine. Of course she's unique and will even introduce me to her friends as her boyfriend. LOL. But def 21-25. Under 21 can't drink at the restaurant and yes they get carded so I wrote that off. And over 25 I had a bad series of fails where I couldn't close the sex deal night 1 with that age group. So I swore off over 25. I did make an exception one time and get got back to the room and she wouldn't let me past second base. WTF? So it's 21-25 for me. And if she is 23 with a nose ring we are def going to be a thing!

Heading on an epic trip soon and I prefer the club scene when traveling internationally. So I won't be needing Seeking much tho I do have two hotties lined up in an area that doesn't have a good club scene. I'll keep you posted!

[Midwestern]

I'm on a long trip in the Midwest (in a city like St. Louis, Denver, etc.). I decided to check out SA after many years of not being super active on it. Wow, the scene has changed a lot. Way, way fewer SBs, and way, way worse quality. There are more SBs in their 30's and 40's than in their 20's, and the fact that almost everyone lies about their age makes this even more astonishing. And the new wishlist thing is a turnoff.

About nine years ago, I was super active on SA, and in about a dozen USA cities, ranging from large cities like San Francisco, Seattle, etc. , to smaller cities like Portland, Providence, Rochester, etc. , and it was great.

So, has SA gone downhill in the USA, or does it just take more skill to navigate it?

[FilthyBeaver]

In the interest of full disclosure one did contact me and tell me she tested positive for one of the lesser stds (that can be abated by pill or shot). I tested negative but lesson learned. She told me she had an iud but that assumes I believed her. Bottom line is I was stupid on multiple fronts. Full stop.

I am less worried about pregnancy. But the cleanness.

I have a few variables I look for but nothing is fool proof. General hygiene, likelihood of she sleeping around random (which is high for a seeking girl anyway), if she asks for condom (I see that as a good sign), her test reports (hoping she doesn't fake it).

Even after these, if she is not on BC of any form, I don't dip bare. Even if she is on BC, I pull out and spray on tummy, ass, face. Wherever she wants it.

My CIP is reserved for my top 3 only. And I have known them for 3 years now.

I don't have ED without (in fact, cialis did not give me any marked difference. Rather killed my orgasm) but with condom I hardly want 2nd round. Without, I usually take her for 3 or 4 rounds in a single night. And, they love it. I love it. Strangely with meds, I don't feel like doing the 2nd.

[FilthyBeaver]

I like the build up / date so I want to be able to have a drink with them and I take them to places guys their own age couldn't dream of. I stop the search at 33 but only ever saw one that was 32. She was so bat shit crazy it never went anywhere. My sweet spot seems to be 23-27 but my current is on the high range of that and I've no plans to replace her. She still does it for me.

Curious how you all decide your age targets relative to your own age.

I am 46. I go for 18-23. Almost never older.

Rationale: little in common but the age at which I can go that young is limited. It's possible to bang a 18 year old when you're 60 but it's harder. I figure I'll age up as I age up and enjoy this now. Plus I say I'm 39 and I doubt 18-23 year olds know what a 39 year old really looks like relative to 46 and I'm not bad looking.

What about y'all's?

[Gfefan]

I am 41. My sweet spot is 24 to 32. They usually have a relatively good head on shoulder and are less distracted on phone. A bit more realistic in life with shit thrown their way.

I have had 2 18's. Body was great but sex was blah. One 23, on-going. She is matured for her age (likely moving to CIP next week).

I have had one 38 in the US. Great sex. Including one in the car as we couldn't keep us off each other. Supposed to be just a meet and greet. We hit it off so well that it was like college days. No PPM. We met three times and then fizzled off.

Curious how you all decide your age targets relative to your own age.

I am 46. I go for 18-23. Almost never older.

Rationale: little in common but the age at which I can go that young is limited. It's possible to bang a 18 year old when you're 60 but it's harder. I figure I'll age up as I age up and enjoy this now. Plus I say I'm 39 and I doubt 18-23 year olds know what a 39 year old really looks like relative to 46 and I'm not bad looking.

What about y'all's?

[Gfefan]

I am less worried about pregnancy. But the cleanness.

I have a few variables I look for but nothing is fool proof. General hygiene, likelihood of she sleeping around random (which is high for a seeking girl anyway), if she asks for condom (I see that as a good sign), her test reports (hoping she doesn't fake it).

Even after these, if she is not on BC of any form, I don't dip bare. Even if she is on BC, I pull out and spray on tummy, ass, face. Wherever she wants it.

My CIP is reserved for my top 3 only. And I have known them for 3 years now.

I don't have ED without (in fact, cialis did not give me any marked difference. Rather killed my orgasm) but with condom I hardly want 2nd round. Without, I usually take her for 3 or 4 rounds in a single night. And, they love it. I love it. Strangely with meds, I don't feel like doing the 2nd.

Little head thinking for the big head. I've not had issues with condoms my entire life but as I'm aging I get ED problems every once in a while that pills don't fix. In my experience, if they really like you they'll go bare especially if it's not working with condom first. I have never asked for bareback up front. And FYI I get tested every time I do it and have thus far avoided anything negative.

I'm a prime target for an 18 year child support meal ticket so I'd like to think I'm extra careful but I can be as dumb as anyone else when my brain isn't in charge.

[DramaFree11]

Curious how you all decide your age targets relative to your own age.

I am 46. I go for 18-23. Almost never older.

Rationale: little in common but the age at which I can go that young is limited. It's possible to bang a 18 year old when you're 60 but it's harder. I figure I'll age up as I age up and enjoy this now. Plus I say I'm 39 and I doubt 18-23 year olds know what a 39 year old really looks like relative to 46 and I'm not bad looking.

What about y'all's?

Ages does not matter to me. I look at there picture first and then go from there. Then it involves personality, honesty, obviously looks, likes to have fun and then are they a freak in bed. They get bonus points if they are on-time or least make the effort to be on-time. I kicked a girl to curb today for being very late. I am banging about 8-11 girls regularly in MTY and CDMX, there age range is from 19-30. (life is good), I have nothing against the older girls, but there is not that many older girls available on SA in Mexico.