Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Sammon]

Going to HCMC middle of March. Was talking to a GF in Phnom Penh and also Bangkok to accompany me. No reply from Bangkok girl. Seems to have vanished in thin air. Phnom Penh girl willing. She says she will spend her own money to come as long as I reimburse her for travel and compensate her for her time. It is 6 hours by bus she says. Last time we were together it was not a loving relationship. Just business. Not sure how she will be hanging together 24-7 . She was not good in bed just focusing on getting her money.

Will decide soon whether to take a blind leap. She keeps messaging me every day.

[Roger1286]

This report is from back in November while in HCM midway through a three month cruise. It's difficult to manage the needs of the little head when you are living on a cruise ship. Opportunities for self relief are very limited and not very satisfying and opportunity for real relief is even slimmer. Yet one hot day in HCM when we had no excursions and the better half opted to rest, I was able to get away for a few hours. Travel time to and from the ship took up most of that and the hot humid weather was equally challenging for this old timer. Staying hydrated was difficult and the good gent who posted a warning in a review I read about bringing a couple of bottles of water was understating my needs as I consumed 6 bottles in a three hour period. Anyway I walked about an hour to get to the famous street. I was wondering about the side effects of the 20 MG blue pill I took, combined with my struggle with the heat: will I be able to even perform. Then I remembered I don't have to do anything but lay back and relax, at least that is what I gathered from my reading the posts. As I got on the street I spurned offer after offer from younger guys shilling for their place and I made the way to the 112 garage type entrance and an old man took my 400 and a very acceptable gal came out and escorted me upstairs to COT in the front stall. She took off my soaked tee shirt and wiped me down as she pulled my shorts to my knees, pushed me back and made me lay down face up. She had a very nice bod with access to everything eventually taking it all off positioning her pussy where it was a foot away from my face. Between my groping, her excellent technique, the 20 mgs. And the fact that I hadn't had any real fun since Labor Day I produced an extended full throttle Orgasm into her mouth. WOW! It seemed like my Dick remembered how it was 60 years ago when at 17, I dry humped Jeanie Winkler when we were making out on her front lawn late one summer night. I took a rick-Shaw back to the shuttle bus location and drank the bottle of water that she gave me, thanking the small head Gods who showed me the way on that hot hot day.

[Banana Boi]

Sorry for requesting information that was previously posted on this forum but I'm unable to locate the info I'm seeking through the search function.

Around 6 months ago a guy talked about the Korean section in HCM and how there were many bars and massage places there. It looked like a nice area just to walk around. I forgot the name of the area or streets he mentioned. Anyone with more info about what I'm talking about?

[Trace79]

How are the costs of rooms, food and girls there compared to those in Thailand?

I primarily live in HCMC for the past 18 months with almost all my visa runs to Bangkok and also a 3-month stay in Sukhumvit area.

- hotels are pretty close but HCMC wins here. $30/ night gets a much nicer place than what that buys in the tourist parts of BKK these days. Also, plenty of clean and nice places for less, across the city too.

- local food is by far cheaper and easier to find anywhere in HCMC compared to Sukhumvit area. Western / international restaurants are about the same with BKK taking the lead in the high-end places.

- pussy is by far the cheapest in Vietnam compared to practically anywhere in Asia. It's not really in your face (except Little Tokyo or Pasteur Street bars), but there's so much pussy for sale here it's insane. Vietnam has the most free market 'local' economy out of anywhere I've been in the world and there is fierce competition between the girls. There's streets where girls just ride up and down on their motorbikes slinging puss (about 500 k-800 k for these types). I have a couple good looking girls I've found that I keep in my rotation that give me full service (BBBJ too) for 1 M vnd. About 1/3 of Tinder are hookers. These girls usually ask for 1. 5-2 M vnd but I've never sampled one off a dating site out of fear they'll just take the money and run (these girls want money upfront, which is why I don't use them. I always pay after. Even in Thailand.).

With that said, Thailand wins hands down for Blowjob bars / service. NPK Street may be cheaper (400 k) but finding a solid performer that will actually put your dick in her mouth (and not just half of the head while her hand jerks it as fast as possible) is hard to find. When / if you do find that one you like, get her Zalo info incase she changes spots or if you want delivery.

[Captain Solo]

In HCMC, organized rings pimp beautiful models, singers, movie stars for $1 / 2 K a pop and $5 / 10 K all night. There are guys loaded with money, local and foreign businessmen, who patronize that small segment. These high-class rings make the country look bad to foreigners and have been busted many times every year.

Most girls online or on the street would do a pop for 400,000 + 75,000 for ST room, total 475,000 Vnd. The most popular meal is a bowl of noodle soup 65,000 plus a coffee 25,000 total 90,000 Vnd or about $3. 50, not cheap. Average guys would need to skip 5. 28 meals for a pop with a ho, which is not bad.

2021 VN gov published GDP of $366.1 bil with 97.47 mil population, average per capita income of $3,756, or $1. 88 an hour, needs 10.7 hours of work for a pop with a ho.

But it's not credible for Vietnam per capita income to be near Thailand, which has far better infrastructure, a larger, more diverse industry base and very strong tourism industry. I suspect VN gov inflated per capital income figure by 30% just to fool investors. VN per capita income is more likely 30% less, $2,629 a year, hourly wage $1. 31 and needs 15.2 hours of work for a pop.

Girls have to work their phones, deal with many guys who just kick tires and not buy, 8 to 10 hours a day to book 1 or 2 sessions, some book none. So they have to work 4 to 5 hours to bag a guy.

[Captain Solo]

We were comparing prices hcmc vs bkk, which is appropriate here.

Contribute your own intels before making demands.

[Buksida]

Why Ho Chi Minh City info turned to Thailand info?

Yes. Lets get back to HCMC. If, I want Thailand there is an area for that!

[Sammon]

Why Ho Chi Minh City info turned to Thailand info?

[Vendelo]

In US a McDonalds meal will cost $12. You can find street girls in LA for $100, Asian massage or escorts $120, so 10 meals for a fuck. US sex market is illegal, not efficient and in your face, but even with relentless raids, stings, arrests by LEs, it's still the cheapest relative to basic costs of living.

In the SF and LA area:

FS in AMP is US $200 minimum including house fee.

Korean AAMP is US $250+ includes everything (house, girl, no tip expected on top of the $250+).

[KrumeLurer]

Don't get me going about Bangkok bar girls' rates, 4,000 plus 800 Bahts bar fine. That's 96 basic meals. Ridiculous. Thai bar pussies must be pure Lithium. Most go go and bar girls look and act so fake with their ridiculous fake assets anyway. How the hell can locals skip 96 meals to poke a bar girl?

While we enjoy companies of girls in other countries, we should try every way not to destroy the market for locals.

Or destroy it for ourselves. Are regular medium looking bargirls asking for 4 k now?

I was out on thaifriendly and a girl in bkk said 2200 for ST. I said I pay a maxiumum of 1500, she replied "here is your hotel?

So many suckers out there driving up prices.

[KrumeLurer]

Follows is a quick and crude analysis of the cost of sex compared to basic meals in countries using most likely costs:

Thailand's FIWFANS prices 1,000 Bahts per pop even seem high for locals, considering a good lunch in most places, including Terminal 21 food court, costs only 50 Bahts. That's 20 meals for a pop with a girl in bed.

In Tijuana Mexico, a basic meal costs 75 pesos. Lots of street girls will do half hour sessions for 500 pesos, HK bar girls, 2400 pesos, so 6 meals for street pussies and 45 meals for clubs'. Mexican club pussies are way inflated to ridiculous levels. You don't want to have to skip 45 meals in 30 days just to poke a club girl. Mexico would be the cheapest if you just stick with street pussies, some are very nice, sweet, good-looking.

In US a McDonalds meal will cost $12. You can find street girls in LA for $100, Asian massage or escorts $120, so 10 meals for a fuck. US sex market is illegal, not efficient and in your face, but even with relentless raids, stings, arrests by LEs, it's still the cheapest relative to basic costs of living.

Well have a look at gaito and compare those prices compared to a days salary and a lunch in HCMC. I have seen descent girls ask 600 etc in cities around Thailand. Many thais make 400-500 from a days work.

When it comes to dancing bars in HCMC, I guess that you can not barfine girls from them? But they are good for looking?

I have seen this on facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100082641376664

https://www.facebook.com/TopTop.Tang3.So8.OChoDua

[Captain Solo]

Don't get me going about Bangkok bar girls' rates, 4,000 plus 800 Bahts bar fine. That's 96 basic meals. Ridiculous. Thai bar pussies must be pure Lithium. Most go go and bar girls look and act so fake with their ridiculous fake assets anyway. How the hell can locals skip 96 meals to poke a bar girl?

While we enjoy companies of girls in other countries, we should try every way not to destroy the market for locals.

[Captain Solo]

Follows is a quick and crude analysis of the cost of sex compared to basic meals in countries using most likely costs:

Thailand's FIWFANS prices 1,000 Bahts per pop even seem high for locals, considering a good lunch in most places, including Terminal 21 food court, costs only 50 Bahts. That's 20 meals for a pop with a girl in bed.

In Tijuana Mexico, a basic meal costs 75 pesos. Lots of street girls will do half hour sessions for 500 pesos, HK bar girls, 2400 pesos, so 6 meals for street pussies and 45 meals for clubs'. Mexican club pussies are way inflated to ridiculous levels. You don't want to have to skip 45 meals in 30 days just to poke a club girl. Mexico would be the cheapest if you just stick with street pussies, some are very nice, sweet, good-looking.

In US a McDonalds meal will cost $12. You can find street girls in LA for $100, Asian massage or escorts $120, so 10 meals for a fuck. US sex market is illegal, not efficient and in your face, but even with relentless raids, stings, arrests by LEs, it's still the cheapest relative to basic costs of living.

Prices on FIWFANS is not "very cheap", its what thais themselves pay. If you think that the prices you pay in a gogo bar is what thaimen pay then you are misinformed. What you pay for ST in a gogo is what you can pay here in western european countries. You should also keep in mind that in the price you see on fiwfans, the "barfine" is included in the price. The women pay 300-400 to the agency.

For 30+ ladies that is average looking thais pay around 700 baht for a visit in the appartment / hotell room and cum one time.

[Captain Solo]

Nice, clean hotels in Bui Vien Back Packers district and District 8 Hoe Central are about $10-15. GAITO. ORG girls are from $8 to 40. Thai girls go from $30 in FIWFANS to $200 at gogos and bars.

Food availability is poorer and more expensive compared to Thailand, noodle soups are $2 to 3. Pho Bien $10 AYCE grilled steak and seafood is very good. Quan 45 had delish food with beer girls company (bia om) about $10 a head.

In Bangkok lots of noodle and grilled meats shops, many in Terminal 1 Food court, sell huge varities of food, drinks, fruits, most charge 25 K Bahts or $0. 75 a noodle bowl. A dozen Mookatas AYCE wagu beef for $12. Best Beef on Sukh Soi 55, $10 AYCE beef and seafood. Mungkorn AYCE seafood on Sukh 45 $10 with live prawns.

How are the costs of rooms, food and girls there compared to those in Thailand?

[KrumeLurer]

So would you say generally fiwifans is worth the effort? Thought a bit like TF, dodgy at best. Prices on FIWIFANS seem very cheap? Semi pros?

Any thoughts appreciated.

NI.

Prices on FIWFANS is not "very cheap", its what thais themselves pay. If you think that the prices you pay in a gogo bar is what thaimen pay then you are misinformed. What you pay for ST in a gogo is what you can pay here in western european countries. You should also keep in mind that in the price you see on fiwfans, the "barfine" is included in the price. The women pay 300-400 to the agency.

For 30+ ladies that is average looking thais pay around 700 baht for a visit in the appartment / hotell room and cum one time.