American Politics

[Xpartan]

I just don't get why this is so hard for MAGA to understand and comprehend.

Because they don't want to understand. That would hurt for they put all their eggs into Trump's basket. There're nothing left.

Now why Trump is so enthusiastic about sucking a third-rate dictator's cock, I might have an idea.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business

Putin is cashing in on his enormous investment in Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pbYSp0ROmo

"Russiagate", my ass!

[CheckMate1]

No I don't. I'm seeing a lot of Republicans backing Ukraine's heroic war effort against the Russian aggression. Probably not as much because of heroism, but because they rightly see that this is a fight the whole civilized world against modern-day barbarians.

No Elvis. The problem is you. You, trumpers, right-wingers, unscrupulous demagogues who're willing to embrace war criminals and mass murderers in a fight against your own democracy.

As for that Boris Johnson hot bullshit, I've already answered in the Ukraine thread.

I just don't get why this is so hard for MAGA to understand and comprehend.

Russia, for whatever reasons it may have, attacked a sovereign country UNPROVOKED. And that is WRONG.

Why even spin the situation or give "reasonings" for Russia?

Today, I heard Tommy Tuberville on a radio show saying that Russia attacked Ukraine because US put weapons in countries near Russia.

1st. Last I check, US does not put weapons in any countries without their permission (more like invitations because they fear Russia would do the same to them as Ukraine). That's what sovereignty of a country is. They do whatever the hell they want within their borders without breaking any laws to protect their land. Example: North and South Korea have troops within shouting distance, and yet no body invaded the other guy for 50+ years.

2nd. Why is a US Senator blaming his country for Russia attacking Ukraine, UNPROVOKED? And since he part of the government, is he blaming himself?

[Xpartan]

(...kkkk!)

Biden's Affordable Care Act (ACA) Accomplishments:
A record number 20 Million join ACA. 8 Million Americas have signed up for ACA during the Biden's term, the largest expansion of healthcare ever.
Biden's Continued Investment in ACA, has made healthcare really affordable and lowered costs
Under Biden, 80% (or 4/5) Americans can get healthcare insurance for as little as $10/month

While I agree with your praises of Biden's economic achievements, healthcare is not one of them.

Yes, I can see claims of $10 coverage for 80% Americans, but I'll believe it when I see it in practice. No one who makes any kind of money beyond mere peanuts would be eligible for this kind of premiums. The policy I pay for my family members costs $ hundreds a month and has a high deductible, copayments and co-insurance. In addition, the credits for buying a policy come out of your tax deductions anyway. I'm not saying ACA isn't helpful at all, but the system is still broken and will remain broken until we join the rest of the civilized world and provide public healthcare for everyone.

[EihTooms]

Here is your answer.

Trumps threat to NATO allies draws little condemnation from GOP, reflecting his grip on the party

It's easy. He remarked once that his disciples wouldn't care if he shot someone on Times Square (and he was right). So why would they flinch now? Their lord and savior simply can't do wrong.

Politicians are another matter. To them it's about survival, nothing more.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-nat...e0424f73d478cc

Trump, ChristoFascist Mike and their fellow classic Repubs have not only finally proven to the people of America that they are 100% in favor of Open Borders for America as witnessed by their killing the strictest, most "conservative", bi-partisan Immigration Reform bill ever handed to them, but they are also proving to the world they are 100% in favor of ENCOURAGING lawless aggressors to cross borders everywhere on the planet to "do whatever the hell they want"!

And don't think for one minute Trump's public message to Vladimir Putin regarding invading any NATO member country he damn well pleases with his full and dutiful consent does not include the NATO country member known at least up to now as The United States of America.

Trump's hatred for America, democracy, national sovereignty and border security at home and abroad knows no bounds and has been revealed for all the world to see.

Dems continue to way over perform their poll numbers vs Repubs and win elections, now even when classic phony Repub outrage issues such as Immigration and Border Control are the top concerns of the electorate. And understandably so.

[Spidy]

Spidy, do you live in the USA? Or are you like Tooms lecturing us about how things are in the USA from thousands of miles away?

Elvis 2008,

In a Trumpian world, laced with right-wing toxicity, doxxing, threats of terror, harm and violence, forgive me if I answer with caution and tell you to...assume and image whatever pleases that right-winger "Trumpian" heart of yours.

But hey Elvis 2008, what I can tell you and I'll let you in on a little secret (and impart a little Jedi wisdom, from what someone once told me) ...it is THIS:

• "If you're patient enough, quiet enough, and really, really, really LISTEN carefully enough!...people will often tell you who they are, without you asking!"

Wait...just be patient, my "Trumpian" conservative padawan! (...kkkk!)

[Spidy]

What does Trump have to do with any of this? Oh right. You cannot post anything without blaming him for all the world's ills. Classic TDS.

(...kkkk!) Yeah...Dude, me using, "Trumpian" as an adjective to describe your gulag economics, should have told you all you need to know. But since you're the one bringing up Trump, for the world's ills, you maybe on to something? Stick with it, I'd love to hear more!

Truth be told, though, there are an awful lot right-wing Trump copycats, crawled out from under their rocks, as of late. Or is this just the latest crop of right-wing fascist dictators, in this era of history, to come out and inflict their brand of benevolence on the world?

Elvis 2008, when your "wanna be dictator", Trump, interjects himself, into the economic discussion, and tries to take credit for President Joe Biden's GREAT ECONOMY, perhaps you it's you suffering from TDS?

But not to worry, Elvis 2008, as President Joe Biden, has reduced the cost of SENIOR health care prescription drugs for YOU and millions of other senior Americans. In addition to a GREAT ECONOMY, Biden has improved access and reduced costs to ACA for millions of Americas, like yourself who maybe suffering from TDS? So fear not!

Biden's Affordable Care Act (ACA) Accomplishments:
• A record number 20 Million join ACA. 8 Million Americas have signed up for ACA during the Biden's term, the largest expansion of healthcare ever.
• Biden's Continued Investment in ACA, has made healthcare really affordable and lowered costs
• Under Biden, 80% (or 4/5) Americans can get healthcare insurance for as little as $10/month

Have you ever been to a country where there is zero demand for the currency? It is not pretty.

Even if I have, they still took US dollars. So what's your point? Are you suggesting that the USA, under "Trumpian" economics is going have zero demand for its currency? If so, you maybe right!

BTW, have you ever been to a country that had zero demand for it's currency, where the country has been bombed to bits, become a virtual war zone and has very little in the way of an actual economy? It is not pretty!

John Oliver had a hilarious video on Chuck E Cheese here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v6y2pY1pZ0. he was going to do it on home owners associations and then changed his mind saying, "If you are under 35, you will never, ever, ever be able to afford house. " which is totally true.

So yeah, if you are in the stock market or own a house, then fuck yeah, Biden has been great. The rich have gotten richer. If not, you are getting your ass kicked. Housing prices are up 45% since Biden took office.

The economy is okay. It is not great. If it were great, and I went to a popular strip club on a Saturday night, it would be loaded with men spending money versus being totally empty. Women are the ultimate luxury good.

For every GDP and unemployment number you pull out of your ass, I can show you consumer credit card debt, interest payments on federal debt, and the exploding amount of federal debt. You seem to be missing the part where having a great life while maxing out your credit cards is not going to end well.

In 1999/2000, the men were six deep in line trying to get dances from the hottest dancers in strip clubs and the talk was complete elimination of the debt. To compare those days to these is a fucking joke. If you are Tooms, it was all Clinton and the Republicans in Congress had nothing to do with those boom times.

But as usual, I see both points of view while you are the one with your head firmly up your ass.

You seem to not know anyone under the age of 35 Spidy. I guess you like your MILFs. Well, here is another video where there is discussion of the benefits of young people continue to live with their parents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31B6wzlzcOc.

Ah yes, that is such a sign of a strong economy.

Okay, Elvis 2008...those stories, I must say, were a lovely regalement of assortment of tales from your "Trumpian" economic crypt. Yes very entertaining, while yet, not one thing mentioned w/r to anything Repubs have done to help, said Americans.

Careful now, in addition to TDS, YOU may also suffer from CRS! (...kkkk! aka. "Chip Roy Syndrome")

Elvis 2008, just reminder, to tell those under 35 year of age that you frequently run into (as I often do), that as soon as, the Repubs get-out-the-way and stop impeding their economic success, with things like book-bans, abortion bans, student forgiveness loans and tax breaks for rich wealthy billionaires/corporate donors and bi-partisan bills that address and prevent corporate rental/housing greed from unfairly buying up huge chunks of family housing and then raising rent (and home ownership) to absurd levels of inequality for Americans seeking home ownership...the better off they'll be.

Yes, despite the efforts of Repubs to derail, thwart and impede (and often try to take credit for), the good and sometimes better than good fortunes of Americans, it is still yet a strong, vibrant and resilient Biden economy.

But I shudder to imagine, given those very same tales of supposed "Biden economic woes" you present, would have be like under a Repub "Trumpian" 2020 administration. Naturally Americas would be in:

• [Quote courtesy of EihTooms] "One of those Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction and Mysterious, Mystical Great Repub 'Once in a Hundred Years' Repeatedly Wild Coincidence Repub Disasters along with the inevitable and unavoidable Recovery Inflation."

So to use your own words, w/r to if we were currently in a Repub lead economy, "It is not pretty!" nor "Would it be pretty!"

[Xpartan]

I thought by now at least one of the supposedly "pro democracy, pro America" posters here like Elvis, MDS1 and such would have expressed their outrage that one of the frontrunner candidates for POTUS from the two major political parties just recently proudly announced that, should he win the election, he fully intends to violate the USA Constitution, violate his Oath of Office, break the law and encourage his Puppet Master Putin to invade any NATO member country and "do whatever the hell" he wants.

Which, of course, is not only a violation of the USA Constitution, a violation of the Oath of Office and a crime, but it would also be one of the most disastrous economic and national security moves ever made by any leader of any country in history.

Leading to WWIII (uh, not WWII)? Very, very likely.

Now, I know it is entirely possible that those Wingers have not even heard this bit of news. After all, it happened way last Saturday and it is entirely probable the "news" sources they pay any attention to have been too busy examining just why Joe Biden said "Mexico" in his comments about an international border issue when he meant to say "Egypt"..

Here is your answer.

Trumps threat to NATO allies draws little condemnation from GOP, reflecting his grip on the party

It's easy. He remarked once that his disciples wouldn't care if he shot someone on Times Square (and he was right). So why would they flinch now? Their lord and savior simply can't do wrong.

Politicians are another matter. To them it's about survival, nothing more.

WASHINGTON (AP) Donald Trumps claim that he once told a NATO ally that he would encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they want to delinquent members of the group sent shockwaves through Europe over the weekend. But in Washington, most Republicans downplayed or defended remarks that seemed to invite Russian aggression.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-nat...e0424f73d478cc

[EihTooms]

I thought by now at least one of the supposedly "pro democracy, pro America" posters here like Elvis, MDS1 and such would have expressed their outrage that one of the frontrunner candidates for POTUS from the two major political parties just recently proudly announced that, should he win the election, he fully intends to violate the USA Constitution, violate his Oath of Office, break the law and encourage his Puppet Master Putin to invade any NATO member country and "do whatever the hell" he wants.

Which, of course, is not only a violation of the USA Constitution, a violation of the Oath of Office and a crime, but it would also be one of the most disastrous economic and national security moves ever made by any leader of any country in history.

Leading to WWIII (uh, not WWII)? Very, very likely.

Now, I know it is entirely possible that those Wingers have not even heard this bit of news. After all, it happened way last Saturday and it is entirely probable the "news" sources they pay any attention to have been too busy examining just why Joe Biden said "Mexico" in his comments about an international border issue when he meant to say "Egypt".

Still, I have managed to hear, see, read and know ALL about it even though I live far away from the USA, the place where Joe Biden lives and even the neighborhood where that particular America-hating candidate who made that campaign promise lives.

A miracle, you say? Not really. It turns out just about anyone in the world can know just about everything there is to know about issues that occur more than easy walking distance from where they reside. Really. I mean even from one USA city to another USA city. And within minutes too!

Well, actually, that has been possible pretty much ever since one dude spoke into a hand piece and said. "Mr. Watson, come here. I want to see you" and that Watson guy wasn't even in the same room!

Really. It was in all the papers.

[Xpartan]

Other part that was crazy with Putin interview is Putin confirmed something everyone who follows the Ukraine War knew: Ukraine and Russia had a peace deal and Boris Johnson destroyed it. My guess is he did so after being told to by Biden, but that is not fact.

So Putin does the interview, confirms this already known fact, but now that this fact is much more widely known, and Bojo fucking loses it. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ine-peace-deal.

In his video, this asshole Bojo does not even deny it.

Xpartan, you try to make this a red-blue conservative-liberal issue but it is not. It is neocon, pro military industrial complex people versus everyone else. Nikki Haley would be the same type of war monger Biden is.

No I don't. I'm seeing a lot of Republicans backing Ukraine's heroic war effort against the Russian aggression. Probably not as much because of heroism, but because they rightly see that this is a fight the whole civilized world against modern-day barbarians.

No Elvis. The problem is you. You, trumpers, right-wingers, unscrupulous demagogues who're willing to embrace war criminals and mass murderers in a fight against your own democracy.

As for that Boris Johnson hot bullshit, I've already answered in the Ukraine thread.

[Elvis 2008]

So forgive me if I take issue with ANY Trumpian DUMBASS BULLSHIT economics, you maybe shoveling, today, or any other day!

What does Trump have to do with any of this? Oh right. You cannot post anything without blaming him for all the world's ills. Classic TDS.

(...kkkk!) Oh please, spare me your backwater economics!

Spidy, do you live in the USA? Or are you like Tooms lecturing us about how things are in the USA from thousands of miles away?

Have you ever been to a country where there is zero demand for the currency? It is not pretty.

Ahh, last I checked, ELVIS 2008, you still hadn't simply "stuck your head out the window", and taken a good hard look, at how strong and resilient, President Joe Biden's economy has been, like I metaphorically (and somewhat perhaps literally in your case) said you should.

But instead it would seem, you still have your head up your ass. No doubt still pining, hoping and praying for a RECESSION/DEPRESSION, just like your feckless "Loud and Save-ur-Dumbass".

John Oliver had a hilarious video on Chuck E Cheese here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v6y2pY1pZ0. he was going to do it on home owners associations and then changed his mind saying, "If you are under 35, you will never, ever, ever be able to afford house. " which is totally true.

So yeah, if you are in the stock market or own a house, then fuck yeah, Biden has been great. The rich have gotten richer. If not, you are getting your ass kicked. Housing prices are up 45% since Biden took office.

The economy is okay. It is not great. If it were great, and I went to a popular strip club on a Saturday night, it would be loaded with men spending money versus being totally empty. Women are the ultimate luxury good.

For every GDP and unemployment number you pull out of your ass, I can show you consumer credit card debt, interest payments on federal debt, and the exploding amount of federal debt. You seem to be missing the part where having a great life while maxing out your credit cards is not going to end well.

In 1999/2000, the men were six deep in line trying to get dances from the hottest dancers in strip clubs and the talk was complete elimination of the debt. To compare those days to these is a fucking joke. If you are Tooms, it was all Clinton and the Republicans in Congress had nothing to do with those boom times.

But as usual, I see both points of view while you are the one with your head firmly up your ass.

You seem to not know anyone under the age of 35 Spidy. I guess you like your MILFs. Well, here is another video where there is discussion of the benefits of young people continue to live with their parents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31B6wzlzcOc.

Ah yes, that is such a sign of a strong economy.

[Spidy]

... Then of course, there was the dollar, the basis for American power. Putin cannot believe that the dollar, the cornerstone of American power, is being tossed away. He said Russia has gone from doing 50% of its transactions in dollars to 13%. For those of us who understand economics, we want there always to be a high demand for the dollar. Putin is asking why are you messing with that demand. ...

(...kkkk!) Oh please, spare me your backwater economics!

Ahh, last I checked, ELVIS 2008, you still hadn't simply "stuck your head out the window", and taken a good hard look, at how strong and resilient, President Joe Biden's economy has been, like I metaphorically (and somewhat perhaps literally in your case) said you should.

But instead it would seem, you still have your head up your ass. No doubt still pining, hoping and praying for a RECESSION/DEPRESSION, just like your feckless "Loud and Save-ur-Dumbass".

So forgive me if I take issue with ANY Trumpian DUMBASS BULLSHIT economics, you maybe shoveling, today, or any other day!

"For those of us who understand economics"...indeed! (...kkkk!)

[EihTooms]

Good question. I guess, MSM are so used to his insanity over the years that they don't even notice. In other words, it's not the news anymore.

From the moment Trump descended that escalator, fact checking and correcting his 30,000++ publicly stated lies has been like trying to catch confetti.

Same with the incidence of his slurred speech, garbled grammar, incoherent blather, invented words, etc.

I suppose it is always possible that when he lies about, say, having won Pennsylvania in the general elections, beaten Barack Obama, created "the best economy ever", "kept the country safe", "no wars on my watch" and so on that he is not lying so much as he really forgot what happened in just the past 4-5 years due to his severe cognitive impairment.

LOL. On a related note, it's hard to top Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley or is it Nancy Pelosi demanding cognitive tests for presidential candidates and in the very next breath misstating the date of The 9/11 Attack! Lolol.

Haley Misstates 9/11 Attack Date After Calling For Cognitive Tests.

https://crooksandliars.com/2024/02/h...ack-date-after

"The last thing we ever want to do is side with Russia," she said during a defense of NATO. "What we always need to remember is America needs to have friends."

"After September 10th, we needed a lot of friends," Haley added. "We can never get to the point where we don't need friends."

First question on the test for Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley or is it Nancy;.

Who is buried in Grant's Tomb?

Surely, Fux News and every Mainstream Media outlet will devote an hour of prime time to Nikki Nancy getting the date of The 9/11 Attack wrong. LOL.

[Elvis 2008]

Right-wing Republicans, just like their lord and savior, love sucking Putin's dick. Nothing else would explain why they hate Ukraine so much.

That's the main reason why the wingers-hijacked House won't give money to Ukraine.

The end.

Other part that was crazy with Putin interview is Putin confirmed something everyone who follows the Ukraine War knew: Ukraine and Russia had a peace deal and Boris Johnson destroyed it. My guess is he did so after being told to by Biden, but that is not fact.

So Putin does the interview, confirms this already known fact, but now that this fact is much more widely known, and Bojo fucking loses it. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ine-peace-deal.

In his video, this asshole Bojo does not even deny it.

Xpartan, you try to make this a red-blue conservative-liberal issue but it is not. It is neocon, pro military industrial complex people versus everyone else. Nikki Haley would be the same type of war monger Biden is.

If a few million Ukrainians and Russians have to die so the defense contractors can make their billions, you are like, so be it.

Thing is after Russiagate, who should Republicans trust? We know the intelligence agencies and you Democratic douches lied your asses off about Russiagate and now it is more of the same. If we do not save Ukraine, all of Europe is going to fall right?

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[Xpartan]

BTW, how many Mainstream Media outlets rushed to devote an hour to the fact that Trump referred to it being Saturday in that Festival of Lies when it was actually Friday?

LOL. Of course, it is possible that MSM merely assumed that was another of his lies for whatever inexplicable reason and, as is their latest aid to getting him back in the White House, choose to protect him by declining to cover his thousands upon thousands of lies in their outlets anymore.

Good question. I guess, MSM are so used to his insanity over the years that they don't even notice. In other words, it's not the news anymore.

[EihTooms]

Elvis doesn't disappoint
Here we are again. All over the place as always with your pointless ramblings, deflecting from a very simple fact.

Right-wing Republicans, just like their lord and savior, love sucking Putin's dick. Nothing else would explain why they hate Ukraine so much.

That's the main reason why the wingers-hijacked House won't give money to Ukraine.

The second reason is also quite simple: When their lord and savior tells them to jump, they jump as high as they can and never ask any questions.

The third reason: It's in their DNA to sabotage Dems, the less sense it makes -- the better.

The end.

I would only add that they do ask one question when their confused and blithering America-hating lord and savior tells them to jump; they ask "How high"? And they ask it on the way UP.

The latest blithering and lying from their lord and savior:

A list of lies Trump told tonight.
in addition to slurring his words, confusing what time and day it is, and pledging to repeal every gun safety law.

https://crooksandliars.com/2024/02/b...hits-trump-lie

See link for the list of lies, too many to copy and paste here.

BTW, how many Mainstream Media outlets rushed to devote an hour to the fact that Trump referred to it being Saturday in that Festival of Lies when it was actually Friday?

LOL. Of course, it is possible that MSM merely assumed that was another of his lies for whatever inexplicable reason and, as is their latest aid to getting him back in the White House, choose to protect him by declining to cover his thousands upon thousands of lies in their outlets anymore.