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02-16-24 10:11 #14138
Posts: 5454That was a Repub and Third Party decision
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
The New Republic: It Was Lieberman All Along.
Oct. 28, 2009
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...ryId=114233563
The eternal lesson being, if you want a better Economy, better National Security, better Border Control, Lower Inflation, more and better jobs created, higher wages, more affordable and better Healthcare, lower debt and deficits, greater Stock Market gains and any other significant improvements in the lives of Americans, you do not, repeat, do not vote for Repubs, Third Party candidates or refuse to vote at all. No, you vote Democrat all the way down the ballot every time, no exceptions. And do your best to convince everyone you know to do the same.
America must have a Dem in the White House, at least 235 Dems in the House and at least 5 more Dems than required to constitute a Super Majority in the Senate if the country is going to deliver great things for our taxpayer dollar. It is as simple as that. Even 1 decisive non Dem in the House or Senate and most definitely any Repub in the White House is enough to put the entire country and much of the rest of the world in serious danger.
I wish it weren't so. But the data and evidence supporting that conclusion is overwhelming and inarguable now.
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02-16-24 08:36 #14137
Posts: 1960To see a classic Putin apologist -- look no further.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/23...plea-for-peace
Did you mean another speech? Or did you just pull this shit out of your ass? Link please.
Even if this speech had happened, whatever Zelensky might've said on Feb 23, couldn't have meant anything. The Russian troops had already been positioned for the invasion. The USA Intelligence knew that the invasion was imminent months before it happened. This claim of yours is insane.
Lie #2: Ukraine's hostility against the Crimea and Donbass separatists provoked Putin. shut off water to Crimea, launched bombers into the Dombass, coddled neonazis, and none other than Kamala Harris spoke of Ukraine joining NATO.
Lie 3: Then we hear of all these weird biolabs in Ukraine getting funded by the Pentagon and Victoria Nuland worrying they might fall into Russian hands, https://greenwald.substack.com/p/vic...has-biological.
How the false Russian biolab story came to circulate among the USA Far right.
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/25/10879...russia-ukraine
Theory About USA -Funded Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine Is Unfounded.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/u...formation.html
Finally:
Senator Rubio Questions Undersecretary Nuland Over Biolabs in Ukraine
During her testimony in front of the Senate Foreign Relations committee about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland answers a question from Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) about whether or not Ukraine has chemical or biological weapons. She replies, "Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned...Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of." She then refutes allegations from Russia that Ukrainians are plotting to use biological weapons, and says that if such an attack happens in Ukraine, "there is no doubt in my mind" it would be caused by Russian forces.
[QUOTE]Lie #4 = Lies 1-3 combined: So putting nuclear and potentially bioweapons on another nation's doorstep is not provocation unless it is the USA and Cuba. Then it is provocation, but when it is Ukraine and Russia, it is not. Got it. [ / QUOTE]Do you get it? You sure? Well, I'm glad.
Truth #1: Yeah, I cannot believe why MAGA idiots could be so dumb as to be confused by that.
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02-16-24 07:14 #14136
Posts: 1119The Arc of Health Care...
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Too steal and plagiarize an MLK/Obama quote:- "The arc of truly affordable heath care for ALL Americans maybe (Repub obstructed unnecessarily) long, but I'm hopeful it bends towards "universal health care" or "Medicare for all."
- Just like much of the rest of the civilized world, as you've nicely stated.
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02-16-24 02:34 #14135
Posts: 5454Fux Trump TV and GOP's impeccable Biden accuser is arrested for lying to the FBI
It appears the central witness in Trump Attorney General Sean Hannity and ChristoFascist Mike's Impeachment case against President Hunter Biden has been busted for lying mercilessly about all the bits that so endeared him to Winger Repubs.
What will replace Impeaching President Hunter Biden as the Repub Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Pink Tinkle House as their top if not only priority?
Controlling the border? Nope. They are not interested.
Reducing crime? Nope. Biden has already done that.
Reducing Inflation? Nope. Biden has already done that.
Recover the economy from the most recent Great Repub Crash and Jobs Destruction? Nope. Biden has already done that.
Fund international resistance against terrorism and authoritarian dictatorship aggression for pennies on the dollar? Nope. Not interested.
Anything?
Guess they'll have to continue to live up to their well earned and well deserved Do Nothing Repub reputation.
Special counsel charges FBI informant with lying to the bureau about Hunter and Joe Biden.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/15/spec...ndroidappshare
Washington An FBI confidential human source has been indicted on two counts of allegedly feeding the bureau false information about President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden during the 2020 presidential campaign.
Alexander Smirnov, 43, who disliked President Joe Biden, was arrested in Las Vegas after returning from a trip overseas, according to the Justice Department. The case grew out of the special counsel investigation being led by David Weiss, who is also leading the case against Hunter Biden. Weiss had been appointed by former President Donald Trump as the top federal prosecutor in Delaware.
The 37-page indictment alleges that Smirnov had been an informant for the FBI since 2010 and "provided false derogatory information to the FBI" about both Bidens after Joe Biden became a candidate for president in 2020.
Smirnov allegedly told the FBI falsely that officials with Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company that Hunter Biden worked for, had told him they hired Hunter Biden because he would "protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems. " Smirnov allegedly told the FBI again, falsely that Burisma officials had told him they paid Hunter Biden and Joe Biden $5 million and that it would take investigators 10 years to find the illicit payments to Joe Biden.
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02-15-24 09:26 #14134
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by CheckMate1 [View Original Post]
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/i...ew-with-putin/
The day before Putin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, as the biased press loves to call it, Zelensky stood up and announced he would seek to rearm Ukraine with nuclear weapons pointed at Russia. Putin mentioned in a speech to the people on February 23rd that night that Ukraine announced it would rearm with nuclear weapons as one of the reasons to justify entering the Donbas.
Ukraine shut off water to Crimea, launched bombers into the Dombass, coddled neonazis, and none other than Kamala Harris spoke of Ukraine joining NATO. Then we hear of all these weird biolabs in Ukraine getting funded by the Pentagon and Victoria Nuland worrying they might fall into Russian hands, https://greenwald.substack.com/p/vic...has-biological.
Originally Posted by CheckMate1 [View Original Post]
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02-15-24 07:43 #14133
Posts: 1960Originally Posted by CheckMate1 [View Original Post]
Now why Trump is so enthusiastic about sucking a third-rate dictator's cock, I might have an idea.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business
Putin is cashing in on his enormous investment in Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pbYSp0ROmo
"Russiagate", my ass!
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02-14-24 20:55 #14132
Posts: 123Why Spin?
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Russia, for whatever reasons it may have, attacked a sovereign country UNPROVOKED. And that is WRONG.
Why even spin the situation or give "reasonings" for Russia?
Today, I heard Tommy Tuberville on a radio show saying that Russia attacked Ukraine because US put weapons in countries near Russia.
1st. Last I check, US does not put weapons in any countries without their permission (more like invitations because they fear Russia would do the same to them as Ukraine). That's what sovereignty of a country is. They do whatever the hell they want within their borders without breaking any laws to protect their land. Example: North and South Korea have troops within shouting distance, and yet no body invaded the other guy for 50+ years.
2nd. Why is a US Senator blaming his country for Russia attacking Ukraine, UNPROVOKED? And since he part of the government, is he blaming himself?
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02-14-24 20:12 #14131
Posts: 1960Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Yes, I can see claims of $10 coverage for 80% Americans, but I'll believe it when I see it in practice. No one who makes any kind of money beyond mere peanuts would be eligible for this kind of premiums. The policy I pay for my family members costs $ hundreds a month and has a high deductible, copayments and co-insurance. In addition, the credits for buying a policy come out of your tax deductions anyway. I'm not saying ACA isn't helpful at all, but the system is still broken and will remain broken until we join the rest of the civilized world and provide public healthcare for everyone.
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02-14-24 18:56 #14130
Posts: 5454Trump and his fellow classic Repubs love Open Borders everywhere in the world
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
And don't think for one minute Trump's public message to Vladimir Putin regarding invading any NATO member country he damn well pleases with his full and dutiful consent does not include the NATO country member known at least up to now as The United States of America.
Trump's hatred for America, democracy, national sovereignty and border security at home and abroad knows no bounds and has been revealed for all the world to see.
Dems continue to way over perform their poll numbers vs Repubs and win elections, now even when classic phony Repub outrage issues such as Immigration and Border Control are the top concerns of the electorate. And understandably so.
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02-14-24 08:05 #14129
Posts: 1119LISTEN carefully now, padawan Jedi...
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
In a Trumpian world, laced with right-wing toxicity, doxxing, threats of terror, harm and violence, forgive me if I answer with caution and tell you to...assume and image whatever pleases that right-winger "Trumpian" heart of yours.
But hey Elvis 2008, what I can tell you and I'll let you in on a little secret (and impart a little Jedi wisdom, from what someone once told me) ...it is THIS:- "If you're patient enough, quiet enough, and really, really, really LISTEN carefully enough!...people will often tell you who they are, without you asking!"
Wait...just be patient, my "Trumpian" conservative padawan! (...kkkk!)
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02-14-24 07:33 #14128
Posts: 1119Biden's GREAT ECONOMY...as "Trumpian" economics ties to take credit
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Truth be told, though, there are an awful lot right-wing Trump copycats, crawled out from under their rocks, as of late. Or is this just the latest crop of right-wing fascist dictators, in this era of history, to come out and inflict their brand of benevolence on the world?
Elvis 2008, when your "wanna be dictator", Trump, interjects himself, into the economic discussion, and tries to take credit for President Joe Biden's GREAT ECONOMY, perhaps you it's you suffering from TDS?
But not to worry, Elvis 2008, as President Joe Biden, has reduced the cost of SENIOR health care prescription drugs for YOU and millions of other senior Americans. In addition to a GREAT ECONOMY, Biden has improved access and reduced costs to ACA for millions of Americas, like yourself who maybe suffering from TDS? So fear not!
Biden's Affordable Care Act (ACA) Accomplishments:
• A record number 20 Million join ACA. 8 Million Americas have signed up for ACA during the Biden's term, the largest expansion of healthcare ever.
• Biden's Continued Investment in ACA, has made healthcare really affordable and lowered costs
• Under Biden, 80% (or 4/5) Americans can get healthcare insurance for as little as $10/month
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
BTW, have you ever been to a country that had zero demand for it's currency, where the country has been bombed to bits, become a virtual war zone and has very little in the way of an actual economy? It is not pretty!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
Careful now, in addition to TDS, YOU may also suffer from CRS! (...kkkk! aka. "Chip Roy Syndrome")
Elvis 2008, just reminder, to tell those under 35 year of age that you frequently run into (as I often do), that as soon as, the Repubs get-out-the-way and stop impeding their economic success, with things like book-bans, abortion bans, student forgiveness loans and tax breaks for rich wealthy billionaires/corporate donors and bi-partisan bills that address and prevent corporate rental/housing greed from unfairly buying up huge chunks of family housing and then raising rent (and home ownership) to absurd levels of inequality for Americans seeking home ownership...the better off they'll be.
Yes, despite the efforts of Repubs to derail, thwart and impede (and often try to take credit for), the good and sometimes better than good fortunes of Americans, it is still yet a strong, vibrant and resilient Biden economy.
But I shudder to imagine, given those very same tales of supposed "Biden economic woes" you present, would have be like under a Repub "Trumpian" 2020 administration. Naturally Americas would be in:- [Quote courtesy of EihTooms] "One of those Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction and Mysterious, Mystical Great Repub 'Once in a Hundred Years' Repeatedly Wild Coincidence Repub Disasters along with the inevitable and unavoidable Recovery Inflation."
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02-14-24 06:50 #14127
Posts: 1960Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Trumps threat to NATO allies draws little condemnation from GOP, reflecting his grip on the party
It's easy. He remarked once that his disciples wouldn't care if he shot someone on Times Square (and he was right). So why would they flinch now? Their lord and savior simply can't do wrong.
Politicians are another matter. To them it's about survival, nothing more.
WASHINGTON (AP) Donald Trumps claim that he once told a NATO ally that he would encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they want to delinquent members of the group sent shockwaves through Europe over the weekend. But in Washington, most Republicans downplayed or defended remarks that seemed to invite Russian aggression.
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02-13-24 16:34 #14126
Posts: 5454Crickets?
I thought by now at least one of the supposedly "pro democracy, pro America" posters here like Elvis, MDS1 and such would have expressed their outrage that one of the frontrunner candidates for POTUS from the two major political parties just recently proudly announced that, should he win the election, he fully intends to violate the USA Constitution, violate his Oath of Office, break the law and encourage his Puppet Master Putin to invade any NATO member country and "do whatever the hell" he wants.
Which, of course, is not only a violation of the USA Constitution, a violation of the Oath of Office and a crime, but it would also be one of the most disastrous economic and national security moves ever made by any leader of any country in history.
Leading to WWIII (uh, not WWII)? Very, very likely.
Now, I know it is entirely possible that those Wingers have not even heard this bit of news. After all, it happened way last Saturday and it is entirely probable the "news" sources they pay any attention to have been too busy examining just why Joe Biden said "Mexico" in his comments about an international border issue when he meant to say "Egypt".
Still, I have managed to hear, see, read and know ALL about it even though I live far away from the USA, the place where Joe Biden lives and even the neighborhood where that particular America-hating candidate who made that campaign promise lives.
A miracle, you say? Not really. It turns out just about anyone in the world can know just about everything there is to know about issues that occur more than easy walking distance from where they reside. Really. I mean even from one USA city to another USA city. And within minutes too!
Well, actually, that has been possible pretty much ever since one dude spoke into a hand piece and said. "Mr. Watson, come here. I want to see you" and that Watson guy wasn't even in the same room!
Really. It was in all the papers.
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02-13-24 07:15 #14125
Posts: 1960Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
No Elvis. The problem is you. You, trumpers, right-wingers, unscrupulous demagogues who're willing to embrace war criminals and mass murderers in a fight against your own democracy.
As for that Boris Johnson hot bullshit, I've already answered in the Ukraine thread.
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02-13-24 05:25 #14124
Posts: 3234Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
Have you ever been to a country where there is zero demand for the currency? It is not pretty.
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
So yeah, if you are in the stock market or own a house, then fuck yeah, Biden has been great. The rich have gotten richer. If not, you are getting your ass kicked. Housing prices are up 45% since Biden took office.
The economy is okay. It is not great. If it were great, and I went to a popular strip club on a Saturday night, it would be loaded with men spending money versus being totally empty. Women are the ultimate luxury good.
For every GDP and unemployment number you pull out of your ass, I can show you consumer credit card debt, interest payments on federal debt, and the exploding amount of federal debt. You seem to be missing the part where having a great life while maxing out your credit cards is not going to end well.
In 1999/2000, the men were six deep in line trying to get dances from the hottest dancers in strip clubs and the talk was complete elimination of the debt. To compare those days to these is a fucking joke. If you are Tooms, it was all Clinton and the Republicans in Congress had nothing to do with those boom times.
But as usual, I see both points of view while you are the one with your head firmly up your ass.
You seem to not know anyone under the age of 35 Spidy. I guess you like your MILFs. Well, here is another video where there is discussion of the benefits of young people continue to live with their parents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31B6wzlzcOc.
Ah yes, that is such a sign of a strong economy.